Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread jam
On Saturday 08 July 2006 14:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > If you want something simple, firehol is pretty good. Debian (and
> > therefore probably Ubuntu) has a bunch of example config files that
> > are really easy to use. The advantage to say shorewall (although
> > things may have changed) is that with fussy protocols like SMB, you
> > just enable it and it works, where as I found with shorewall that you
> > needed to worry about traffic directions and such. It also lets you
> > do NATting and stuff extremely simply.
> >
> > And that's my 5 cents.
>
> Yes, same with Firestarter. I used Shorewall for quite some time on a
> Linux router. It is good, but something like Firestarter is (I think)
> the way to go for a simple Ubuntu setup. Doesn't do as much as
> Shorewall, but it is dead simple to set up and run a simple desktop
> protection firewall.
>
> My 5 cents.

Thanks Alan
guidedog
guarddog
worked. It seems that there is no option to:
* trust the local network (everything allowed)
* allow ESTABLISHED/RELATED packets back
* allow arbitary complex stuff (still investigating) eg for my openvpn
iptables -A INPUT -i tun+ -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i tun+ -j ACCEPT
But its mostly working
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Re: [SLUG] Re: ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread jam
On Saturday 08 July 2006 14:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I cant find anything that does the equivalent of
> > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> > on my newly installed ubuntu box. Before I invent a way, does anybody
> > know if I'm missing something.
>
> sed -i s/ip_forward=no/ip_forward=yes/ /etc/network/options

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/network/options
cat: /etc/network/options: No such file or directory

so ...

/etc/sysctl.conf
# Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
net/ipv4/ip_forward=1

I have now solved all my network problems. Thanks
James
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[SLUG] Re: Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:51:00PM +1000, Ben Alex wrote:
> Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >I've got a Vodafone 3G (Merlin) card through work and it works nicely -- a
> >bit fiddly to setup, perhaps, but doable.  A client I've been at has the
> >"other model" of Vodafone 3G card and it works in Ubuntu Dapper, but not
> >earlier versions -- so you'll need a pretty new kernel if you get lumped
> >with that card.
> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Because I actually live in 
> Newcastle - but travel to the capitals enough of the time to warrant 
> mobile coverage - probably the Vodafone service makes most sense as I 
> can fallback to GPRS when at home. I also didn't realise the iBurst 
> coverage was sketchy - does anyone else have experiences with that, 
> particularly in the CBD areas of Sydney and Brisbane?

My experience is a year old, but it was patchy even in the city (Sydney).  I
got fantastic reception at the Sol1 office in Hornsby, but elsewhere it was
really hit-n-miss.  I'd assume they've done a lot more build-out since then,
though.

> As for Vodafone, 
> is there any chance of posting some notes on installing it

>From memory, it was plug in the card, watch dmesg to ensure it actually
registered, and then put the following wvdial snippet in the config file and
run "wvdial vodafone" to start it up.

[Dialer vodafone]
Modem = /dev/ttyS1
Baud = 460800
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2
Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","vfinternet.au"
Area Code =
Stupid Mode = 1
Phone = *99***1#
Username = dummy
Password = dummy
Ask Password = 0
Dial Command = ATD
Idle Seconds = 3000
DialMessage1 =
DialMessage2 =
ISDN = 0
Auto DNS = 1
Check DNS = 0

> and was the card detailed at
> http://store.vodafone.com.au/mobile_detail.cfm?mobID=18 the one that
> worked with Dapper?

That page doesn't give exact model numbers, so it's hard to tell.  It
certainly looks more like the one I didn't get (Huawei brand, I think?); the
Merlin I got has the SIM slot toward the back of the card.  Both of them
work fine with Dapper, though -- they appear to the kernel as being little
more than an ACM modem.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Ben Alex

Matthew Palmer wrote:

I've got a Vodafone 3G (Merlin) card through work and it works nicely -- a
bit fiddly to setup, perhaps, but doable.  A client I've been at has the
"other model" of Vodafone 3G card and it works in Ubuntu Dapper, but not
earlier versions -- so you'll need a pretty new kernel if you get lumped
with that card.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Because I actually live in 
Newcastle - but travel to the capitals enough of the time to warrant 
mobile coverage - probably the Vodafone service makes most sense as I 
can fallback to GPRS when at home. I also didn't realise the iBurst 
coverage was sketchy - does anyone else have experiences with that, 
particularly in the CBD areas of Sydney and Brisbane? As for Vodafone, 
is there any chance of posting some notes on installing it, and was the 
card detailed at http://store.vodafone.com.au/mobile_detail.cfm?mobID=18 
the one that worked with Dapper?


Cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread mark



I hope those drivers have gotten a *lot* better since I used them about a
year ago -- they were horrendous back then.  If you're considering getting
iBurst, get a trial period first.  Between the shithouse drivers and woeful
coverage (I rarely got a useable signal) it wasn't worth it for me to get
it.  YMMV, of course.

- Matt

  

Yes they have been rewritten from scratch.
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[SLUG] Re: Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:23:45PM +1000, mark wrote:
> Ben Alex wrote:
> >Hi everybody
> >
> >Does anyone know of a wireless (preferably 3G) Internet service which 
> >is compatible with Linux-based notebooks (Ubuntu)? Most of the service 
> >providers like iBurst etc seem to specify the use of Windows.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Ben
> 
> The linux drivers for iburst can be found at this link
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibdriver/

I hope those drivers have gotten a *lot* better since I used them about a
year ago -- they were horrendous back then.  If you're considering getting
iBurst, get a trial period first.  Between the shithouse drivers and woeful
coverage (I rarely got a useable signal) it wasn't worth it for me to get
it.  YMMV, of course.

- Matt

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[SLUG] Re: Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:14:15AM +1000, Ben Alex wrote:
> Does anyone know of a wireless (preferably 3G) Internet service which is 
> compatible with Linux-based notebooks (Ubuntu)? Most of the service 
> providers like iBurst etc seem to specify the use of Windows.

I've got a Vodafone 3G (Merlin) card through work and it works nicely -- a
bit fiddly to setup, perhaps, but doable.  A client I've been at has the
"other model" of Vodafone 3G card and it works in Ubuntu Dapper, but not
earlier versions -- so you'll need a pretty new kernel if you get lumped
with that card.

- Matt

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Re: [SLUG] Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread mark

Ben Alex wrote:

Hi everybody

Does anyone know of a wireless (preferably 3G) Internet service which 
is compatible with Linux-based notebooks (Ubuntu)? Most of the service 
providers like iBurst etc seem to specify the use of Windows.


Cheers
Ben


The linux drivers for iburst can be found at this link

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibdriver/

Follow the instructions the install doc for the pcmcia card.  If you are 
using the desktop modem you can use the drivers and configure it for the 
usb port.  If you just intend on using the Ethernet port just simply 
plug it in and use a dialing program like RP-PPPoE


http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_rp-pppoe.php

Cheers

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:20:20 +1000
Metrics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:33:44AM +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote:
> > * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:19:21PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables
> > > settings do work but that's awefully primitive. This article did
> > > not help http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no
> > > lokkit or guarddog can be found by apt-get)
> > 
> > I use shorewall [1], basically a perl wrapper on iptables. Easy to
> > config with a collection of files in /etc/shorewall, and very
> > flexible - from a single laptop to a large network.
> > 
> > [1] http://www.shorewall.net
> > 
> 
> If you want something simple, firehol is pretty good. Debian (and
> therefore probably Ubuntu) has a bunch of example config files that
> are really easy to use. The advantage to say shorewall (although
> things may have changed) is that with fussy protocols like SMB, you
> just enable it and it works, where as I found with shorewall that you
> needed to worry about traffic directions and such. It also lets you
> do NATting and stuff extremely simply.
> 
> And that's my 5 cents.

Yes, same with Firestarter. I used Shorewall for quite some time on a
Linux router. It is good, but something like Firestarter is (I think)
the way to go for a simple Ubuntu setup. Doesn't do as much as
Shorewall, but it is dead simple to set up and run a simple desktop
protection firewall.

My 5 cents.

Alan

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread O Plameras

Metrics wrote:

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:33:44AM +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote:
  

* On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:19:21PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings do 
work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or guarddog 
can be found by apt-get)
  

I use shorewall [1], basically a perl wrapper on iptables. Easy to
config with a collection of files in /etc/shorewall, and very flexible -
from a single laptop to a large network.

[1] http://www.shorewall.net




If you want something simple, firehol is pretty good. Debian (and
therefore probably Ubuntu) has a bunch of example config files that are
really easy to use. The advantage to say shorewall (although things may
have changed) is that with fussy protocols like SMB, you just enable it
and it works, where as I found with shorewall that you needed to worry
about traffic directions and such. It also lets you do NATting and stuff
extremely simply.
  


In the current release, to block or permit SMB traffic, all you do in 
"rules" is you

do "SMB/REJECT" or "SMB/ACCEPT". The macros are in /usr/share/shorewall.
You can make up macros for any service.

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[SLUG] Re: ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 09:57:18PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I cant find anything that does the equivalent of
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> on my newly installed ubuntu box. Before I invent a way, does anybody know if 
> I'm missing something.

sed -i s/ip_forward=no/ip_forward=yes/ /etc/network/options

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[SLUG] Re: ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 08:42:45AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
> David Kempe wrote:
> >If you want a good firewall, use shorewall. and have it do it for you
> 
> How will shorewall solved this particular problem when he is missing 
> this functionality ?
> "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
> 
> One of the things "shorewall" does is to enable "ip forwarding" ?

"Yes".

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread Metrics
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:33:44AM +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote:
> * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:19:21PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings 
> > do 
> > work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
> > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or guarddog 
> > can be found by apt-get)
> 
> I use shorewall [1], basically a perl wrapper on iptables. Easy to
> config with a collection of files in /etc/shorewall, and very flexible -
> from a single laptop to a large network.
> 
> [1] http://www.shorewall.net
> 

If you want something simple, firehol is pretty good. Debian (and
therefore probably Ubuntu) has a bunch of example config files that are
really easy to use. The advantage to say shorewall (although things may
have changed) is that with fussy protocols like SMB, you just enable it
and it works, where as I found with shorewall that you needed to worry
about traffic directions and such. It also lets you do NATting and stuff
extremely simply.

And that's my 5 cents.

Byron
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Re: [SLUG] Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:14:15AM +1000, Ben Alex wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> Does anyone know of a wireless (preferably 3G) Internet service which is 
> compatible with Linux-based notebooks (Ubuntu)? Most of the service 
> providers like iBurst etc seem to specify the use of Windows.

I use a Telstra Minimax - decidely not 3G - it's CDMA, and also not
exactly cheap for the bandwidth. But it has the advantage of working in
country areas and Perth, which I travel to for work occasionally.

I wrote up my experiences here http://www.snowfrog.net/?q=node/322;
Quozl in NT/WA also has it: http://quozl.linux.org.au/mm-5100/

I think you'll find some of the providers specify Windows, even though
basically all you need is a DHCP client...

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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:19:21PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings do 
> work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or guarddog 
> can be found by apt-get)

I use shorewall [1], basically a perl wrapper on iptables. Easy to
config with a collection of files in /etc/shorewall, and very flexible -
from a single laptop to a large network.

[1] http://www.shorewall.net

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread O Plameras

Jeff Waugh wrote:



  

David Kempe wrote:


If you want a good firewall, use shorewall. and have it do it for you
  

How will shorewall solved this particular problem when he is missing this
functionality ?  "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"

One of the things "shorewall" does is to enable "ip forwarding" ?



Yes, it's essentially a firewall construction kit, and makes deployment and
configuration of firewalls and modular rules quite simple.
  


And "shorewall" is such a user-friendly kit that anyone using it is not 
required to know
how to "iptables". It is even made simpler with the current release 
because a user simply

use "SMTP/REJECT" to block SMTP packets or "SMTP/ACCEPT" to permit SMTP
packets. Of course what one needs is know to RTFM and understand what's 
meant in it.


There are samples of how to construct these MACROS in "shorewall" 
documentations.



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[SLUG] Linux compatible Sydney 3G for notebooks

2006-07-07 Thread Ben Alex

Hi everybody

Does anyone know of a wireless (preferably 3G) Internet service which is 
compatible with Linux-based notebooks (Ubuntu)? Most of the service 
providers like iBurst etc seem to specify the use of Windows.


Cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread jam
On Saturday 08 July 2006 05:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi
> > my ongoing frustrations:
> >
> > 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings
> > do work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
> > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or
> > guarddog can be found by apt-get)
>
> If you enable universe you can get these:
>
>     erikd > apt-cache search guarddog
>     guarddog - firewall configuration utility for KDE
>     guidedog - NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE
>     erikd > apt-cache search lokkit  
>     gnome-lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (GNOME
> interface) lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console
> interface)

Thanks for all the help!
The missing link: I DID enable universe, I needed to 
apt-get update
I did not understand that I needed to do that on a new install:

jam> apt-cache search lokkit
jam>

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread Jeff Waugh


> David Kempe wrote:
> >If you want a good firewall, use shorewall. and have it do it for you
> 
> How will shorewall solved this particular problem when he is missing this
> functionality ?  "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
> 
> One of the things "shorewall" does is to enable "ip forwarding" ?

Yes, it's essentially a firewall construction kit, and makes deployment and
configuration of firewalls and modular rules quite simple.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread O Plameras

David Kempe wrote:

If you want a good firewall, use shorewall. and have it do it for you



How will shorewall solved this particular problem when he is missing 
this functionality ?

"echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"

One of the things "shorewall" does is to enable "ip forwarding" ?



dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
I cant find anything that does the equivalent of
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
on my newly installed ubuntu box. Before I invent a way, does anybody 
know if I'm missing something.

Thanks
James


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Re: [SLUG] Dynamic routing - RIP or BGP or what?

2006-07-07 Thread O Plameras

Howard Lowndes wrote:

Tks for that.

I have got 192.168.1.2 advertising 192.168.2.0/24 directed to 
192.168.1.1 as per RFC1723, and I have got 192.168.1.1 listening on 
udp/520.  My problem now is: how do I get 192.168.1.1 to do things 
with the packets that it is receiving, because the route table is not 
adjusting.  I guess the question is: how do I set up ripd on 
192.168.1.1 to operate in "receive" mode?




Did you advertise network 192.168.2.0/24 at 192.168.1.1 ?

Remember the basic rule - routing happens at the the Gateway ? Every Gateway
needs to know What you want routed. And dynamic routing is a Pull not a 
Push.


Now, you can mix static and dynamic. To figure out where your problem is you
insert your static route with dynamic and then, remove static one-by-one 
to zero-in to a

problem.


O Plameras wrote:

Howard Lowndes wrote:
I want to do some dynamic routing in a network and I don't know 
whether I should be using RIP or BGP.



}  quagga
   }   1.2.3.4 ||192.168.1.1192.168.1.0/24
I'net }|eth1eth0|-|>>>
   }   ||default gw   |
} |
  |192.168.1.2
||
|   eth1 |
|  quagga|
|   eth0 |
||
  |192.168.2.1
  |
  V
  V
   192.168.2.0/24

When I bring the 192.168.2.0/24 network up I want to be able to 
broadcast that 192.168.1.0/24 network so that the 192.169.1.0/24 
network  and anything coming in via 1.2.3.4 knows that it is 
accessible via the 192.168.1.2 interface, but when I don't have the 
192.168.2.0/24 network up I don't want to broadcast it, or let the 
192.168.1.0/24 or the public world know anything about it.


Dynamic routing is the most appropriate and efficient solution. You 
simply advertise your network address to receive traffic.
If you don't wish to receive traffic you remove the advertisement. 
Because of this it is easier and  cleaner to configure and maintain your
routes. Dynamic routing is PULL routing whilst static routing is PUSH 
routing and therefore in dynamic routing the receiver has better 
control for

in-coming traffic.

I have installed quagga where shown but I don't know whether I 
should be using RIP or BGP and I don't know wheta the config files 
should look like.


You can do RIP, OSPF, or BGP, although BGP is especially intended for 
multi-homing (more that one uplink/downlink).  When you do BGP
you can invent your AS Number but don't advertise your Network 
outside your local network. These protocols are all intended to simplify
configuration and maintenance of your routes. For small networks like 
less than 5 networks, RIP works well. For complex networks use OSPF
or BGP. Definitely BGP if you have multi-home nodes. For example, 
your Albury node sends/receives traffic to/from Canberra, to/from Wagga,
to/from Gundagai, to/from Mebourne, etc, this is BGP routing. In 
other words if you use STAR-nodes network definitely BGP.


Hope this helps.

O Plameras






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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:19:21 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi
> my ongoing frustrations:
> 
> 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables
> settings do work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not
> help http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit
> or guarddog can be found by apt-get)

Firestarter is a nice simple firewall.

> 
> 2) How to manipulate and configure services. I CAN and have been 
> sym-linking /etc/init.d/service to rc2.d/SNNservice. That too is
> awefully primitive. system -> administration -> services lists 8
> services from anacron to ssh. What about the zillion others?
> 
> Help shows not available pictures:
> each service []
> with a   []
> checkbox []
> 
> Thanks
> James
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread David Kempe

If you want a good firewall, use shorewall. and have it do it for you

dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
I cant find anything that does the equivalent of
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
on my newly installed ubuntu box. Before I invent a way, does anybody know if 
I'm missing something.

Thanks
James

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[SLUG] ubuntu routing

2006-07-07 Thread jam
Hi
I cant find anything that does the equivalent of
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
on my newly installed ubuntu box. Before I invent a way, does anybody know if 
I'm missing something.
Thanks
James
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[SLUG] Re: Microsoft kinda do ODF

2006-07-07 Thread Phil Scarratt

Phil Scarratt wrote:
Thought this was interesting and worth posting just in case someone out 
there hadn't read it.


Fil




Oh dear

http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/2911


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[SLUG] Microsoft kinda do ODF

2006-07-07 Thread Phil Scarratt
Thought this was interesting and worth posting just in case someone out 
there hadn't read it.


Fil

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[SLUG] Nokia 770 Internet Tablet on Ebay from Perth

2006-07-07 Thread adamyap
Guys,

Just thought I'd post up that I'm Ebaying a new Nokia 770 Internet
tablet. The buy-it-now price is exactly how much it costs to buy in the
US so it's a pretty good deal. You can check it out here:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110005964260&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

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Re: [SLUG] Dynamic routing - RIP or BGP or what?

2006-07-07 Thread O Plameras

Howard Lowndes wrote:
I want to do some dynamic routing in a network and I don't know 
whether I should be using RIP or BGP.



}  quagga
   }   1.2.3.4 ||192.168.1.1192.168.1.0/24
I'net }|eth1eth0|-|>>>
   }   ||default gw   |
} |
  |192.168.1.2
||
|   eth1 |
|  quagga|
|   eth0 |
||
  |192.168.2.1
  |
  V
  V
   192.168.2.0/24

When I bring the 192.168.2.0/24 network up I want to be able to 
broadcast that 192.168.1.0/24 network so that the 192.169.1.0/24 
network  and anything coming in via 1.2.3.4 knows that it is 
accessible via the 192.168.1.2 interface, but when I don't have the 
192.168.2.0/24 network up I don't want to broadcast it, or let the 
192.168.1.0/24 or the public world know anything about it.


Dynamic routing is the most appropriate and efficient solution. You 
simply advertise your network address to receive traffic.
If you don't wish to receive traffic you remove the advertisement. 
Because of this it is easier and  cleaner to configure and maintain your
routes. Dynamic routing is PULL routing whilst static routing is PUSH 
routing and therefore in dynamic routing the receiver has better control for

in-coming traffic.

I have installed quagga where shown but I don't know whether I should 
be using RIP or BGP and I don't know wheta the config files should 
look like.


You can do RIP, OSPF, or BGP, although BGP is especially intended for 
multi-homing (more that one uplink/downlink).  When you do BGP
you can invent your AS Number but don't advertise your Network outside 
your local network. These protocols are all intended to simplify
configuration and maintenance of your routes. For small networks like 
less than 5 networks, RIP works well. For complex networks use OSPF
or BGP. Definitely BGP if you have multi-home nodes. For example, your 
Albury node sends/receives traffic to/from Canberra, to/from Wagga,
to/from Gundagai, to/from Mebourne, etc, this is BGP routing. In other 
words if you use STAR-nodes network definitely BGP.


Hope this helps.

O Plameras


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Re: [SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi
> my ongoing frustrations:
> 
> 1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings do 
> work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or guarddog 
> can be found by apt-get)

If you enable universe you can get these:

erikd > apt-cache search guarddog
guarddog - firewall configuration utility for KDE
guidedog - NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE
erikd > apt-cache search lokkit  
gnome-lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (GNOME 
interface)
lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface)


> 2) How to manipulate and configure services. I CAN and have been 
> sym-linking /etc/init.d/service to rc2.d/SNNservice. That too is awefully 
> primitive.

Yes. For a commandline way of doing this on Debian/Ubuntu try
update-rc.d. I'm pretty sure there are gui tools for this as well.

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[SLUG] Firewall

2006-07-07 Thread jam
Hi
my ongoing frustrations:

1) How to setup a firewall in ubuntu? It seems suitable iptables settings do 
work but that's awefully primitive. This article did not help
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 (no lokkit or guarddog 
can be found by apt-get)

2) How to manipulate and configure services. I CAN and have been 
sym-linking /etc/init.d/service to rc2.d/SNNservice. That too is awefully 
primitive. system -> administration -> services lists 8 services from anacron 
to ssh. What about the zillion others?

Help shows not available pictures:
each service []
with a   []
checkbox []

Thanks
James
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[SLUG] Re: Dynamic routing - RIP or BGP or what?

2006-07-07 Thread Ben Buxton
Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> I want to do some dynamic routing in a network and I don't know whether 
> I should be using RIP or BGP.

[...]

BGP is for external routing - not suitable.

RIP is old, and it's convergence time is pityful. 

If Quagga allows it, OSPF would be a better option.

Or for the non-network way, you could always put scripts between  the
two routing boxes that simply setup static routes when the right
interface comes up.

BB

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[SLUG] Re: Looking for some Raw DV footage to practice on

2006-07-07 Thread Ben B
elliott-brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> 
> I'm going to have a more in-depth look at 
> Cinelerra too; my limited experience with it has 
> brought me to the conclusion that I really need to 
> RTM more so than with Kino :)

The difference between Kino and Cinelerra is like the difference between
Nano and Vim - ie the latter's a lot more powerful but a bitch to learn
:)

BB

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Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking

2006-07-07 Thread Jeff Waugh


> * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:57:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> > The default software isn't clever enough to do this for you. However,
> > with a little help from Network Manager (install network-manager-gnome),
> > you will have a *very* pleasurable network switching experience; both
> > wifi and wired.
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> 
> I installed network manager, but I couldn't seem to find a way of
> configuring or running it. I had a look around with dpkg -L
> network-manager, couldn't see anything obvious. Is it just Friday
> afternoon & my brain has gone to sleep?

No, it's just a bit obtuse at the moment because it's not nicely integrated
for you. Run nm-applet (which is in network-manager-gnome). You should also
check that it is in your startup list (System > Preferences > Sessions).

- Jeff

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