Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Voytek Eymont wrote:
and, yes, as the logs rolled, they reverted, and, after I stopped ,

So there's a log rotator in there?  What does its configuration tell you?
Perhaps the log rotator is creating the new log file with the wrong
ownership?
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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 01:26:00PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:03:00PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
 
  For that to work the log would have to be group-writeable.
  Is it?

 doesn't seem to be:

  Also check for selinux violations (/var/log/audit/audit.log) if
  everything else looks ok.
 
 the /var/log/audit/ dir is empty...?

You may need to install 'audit'

WHich distro and version were you on again?


  Did you get amavis and clamav from the standard Fedora/Redhat
  repos?  If so you should raise a bug with them or mention on their mailing
  lists.
 
 it seems yes, but I'll need to check the logs though

Better check before we go any further.


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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Mon, October 22, 2007 9:02 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 01:26:00PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:

 Also check for selinux violations (/var/log/audit/audit.log) if
 everything else looks ok.
 the /var/log/audit/ dir is empty...?

 You may need to install 'audit'

OK, it was installed but not running;
presumedly it should run all the time ?

anyhow, stopping/starting clamd logs no entry in the audit.log


 WHich distro and version were you on again?

Centos 4

Linux bilby.sbt.net.au 2.6.9-55.0.9.EL #1 Thu Sep 27 18:10:45 EDT 2007
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


 Did you get amavis and clamav from the standard Fedora/Redhat
 repos?  If so you should raise a bug with them or mention on their
 mailing lists.
 it seems yes, but I'll need to check the logs though

 Better check before we go any further.

it was from Centos and/or the like of Centos

/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:13 Installed: clamav-db.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:14 Installed: clamav.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:56 Installed: clamd.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf

/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 23:09:16 Installed: amavisd-new.i386 2.4.4-1.el4.rf

# ls yum.repos.d
CentOS-Base.repo  CentOS-Media.repo  mirrors-rpmforge  rpmforge.repo


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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Mon, October 22, 2007 9:09 pm, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Voytek Eymont wrote:

 and, yes, as the logs rolled, they reverted, and, after I stopped ,

 So there's a log rotator in there?  What does its configuration tell you?
  Perhaps the log rotator is creating the new log file with the wrong
 ownership? --


Jamie,
the new log is created with same ownership as it is on RH73, 'clamav'

but, on RH73, it works fine with 'clamav' ownership, on Centos it doesn't




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[SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread wbennett
I have a thumbdrive/memory stick that has to be used in computers running
Windows and Ubuntu.

Windows recognises immediately when it's in the USB port.

Ubuntu doesn't even acknowledge its existence.

I'm told it's the formatting.

Is there a common format that can be used, even if it's less than optimal
for either system?

Bill Bennett.
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Re: [SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
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 Is there a common format that can be used, even if it's less than optimal
 for either system?

FAT32 is the most widely compatible disk format to use on pretty much any
device.

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[SLUG] ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au

2007-10-22 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

Any one know what has happened to ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au (::192.231.212.5) 
, I used to use it as a 6to4 gateway.  But it doesn't seem to be working any 
more.

Alex


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Re: [SLUG] ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au

2007-10-22 Thread Christopher Vance
On 10/23/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any one know what has happened to ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au 
 (::192.231.212.5)
 , I used to use it as a 6to4 gateway.  But it doesn't seem to be working any
 more.

I have an explicit tunnel (2001::/16), rather than 6to4 (2002::/16),
with broker.aarnet.net.au, and it passes my traffic just fine, as it
has for years.

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Re: [SLUG] ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au

2007-10-22 Thread Glen Turner
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 10:26 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
 Hi
 
 Any one know what has happened to ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au 
 (::192.231.212.5) 
 , I used to use it as a 6to4 gateway.  But it doesn't seem to be working any 
 more.

I'll find out.

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Re: [SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread Amos Shapira
On 23/10/2007, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Is there a common format that can be used, even if it's less than
 optimal
  for either system?

 FAT32 is the most widely compatible disk format to use on pretty much any
 device.


What about having a partition table on the disk? Would it help to have or
not have one?

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Re: [SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Amos Shapira

   Is there a common format that can be used, even if it's less than
   optimal for either system?
 
  FAT32 is the most widely compatible disk format to use on pretty much
  any device.
 
 What about having a partition table on the disk? Would it help to have or
 not have one?

I've seen enough devices confused by non-partitioned disks that I tend to do
it even though it's not entirely necessary. Again, compatibility is the key.

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Re: [SLUG] ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au

2007-10-22 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 10:38:28AM +1000, Christopher Vance wrote:
 On 10/23/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Any one know what has happened to ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au 
  (::192.231.212.5)
  , I used to use it as a 6to4 gateway.  But it doesn't seem to be working any
  more.
 
 I have an explicit tunnel (2001::/16), rather than 6to4 (2002::/16),
 with broker.aarnet.net.au, and it passes my traffic just fine, as it
 has for years.
cool, tried it, looks like I have been there before, I have a userid, but 
forgotten my password :(

I will want to set this on an openwrt box, do you see any problems ?

 
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Re: [SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:08:34AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Amos Shapira
 
Is there a common format that can be used, even if it's less than
optimal for either system?
  
   FAT32 is the most widely compatible disk format to use on pretty much
   any device.
  
  What about having a partition table on the disk? Would it help to have or
  not have one?
 
 I've seen enough devices confused by non-partitioned disks that I tend to do
 it even though it's not entirely necessary. Again, compatibility is the key.

Agreed.   In fact a data point: I was having problems (wouldn't automatically
mount) with my usb key just yesterday and I noticed I'd mkfs'd the whole device.


Partitioning and re-mkfs'ing fixed it.

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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:54:29PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
  Did you get amavis and clamav from the standard Fedora/Redhat
  repos?  If so you should raise a bug with them or mention on their
  mailing lists.
  it seems yes, but I'll need to check the logs though
 
  Better check before we go any further.
 
 it was from Centos and/or the like of Centos
 
 /var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:13 Installed: clamav-db.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
 /var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:14 Installed: clamav.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
 /var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:56 Installed: clamd.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
 
 /var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 23:09:16 Installed: amavisd-new.i386 2.4.4-1.el4.rf
 
 # ls yum.repos.d
 CentOS-Base.repo  CentOS-Media.repo  mirrors-rpmforge  rpmforge.repo
 
 

The rf suffix means rpmforge.
I haven't had much luck with rpmforge myself.  I'd avoid them.

Try http://centos.karan.org/ - it's fedora4 extras rebuilt for centos.
Both clamav and amavis are there.


Better yet, install latest centos or fedora  ... or ubuntu even.


Now, I'm _sure_ you could fix the problem with some local
hacks.  But keep doing this and you'll end up with a 
frankenstein like your current rh7.3.

Matt


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Re: [SLUG] Formatting problem.

2007-10-22 Thread John Clarke
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:04:08 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:

 What about having a partition table on the disk? Would it help to have or
 not have one?

Mostly it doesn't seem to make a difference, but I do have one device
(a GPS) that doesn't handle memory cards with a partition table.  Ubuntu
doesn't properly handle the card if it doesn't have one, but it's only a
minor problem.  It mounts both the entire device and partition 1 (e.g.
/dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1), but otherwise has no problems using the card.


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[SLUG] vncviewer version 4.x on debian/ubuntu

2007-10-22 Thread Grant Parnell
What's the story with running VNC version 4 on Ubuntu etc? For quite some
time version 4's been available and gets installed in Fedora 7 for example
yet the other camp's stuck on 3.3. Normally I wouldn't be too fussed but
version 4's just so much faster on the wire. Gotta get around to trying
the NoMachine (nxclient) - is there a version of it for Windows/Mac though
(like just in case I have to use it).

Or tell me which repository I'd have to enable to get VNC 4.x (not
tightvnc, but realvnc... ie realvnc.org). I couldn't be bothered compiling
from source on every workstation I care to use.

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Re: [SLUG] FC 5 sound problem

2007-10-22 Thread Grant Parnell

On Fri, October 19, 2007 8:55 am, Luke Vanderfluit wrote:
 Hi.

 I know theres some sound experts on this list.
 Im running kernel 2.6.18-1.2239.fc5
 Realplayer 10.0.8

 I have this problem where I try running realplayer after Ive used the
 sound device through another application (usually through opera).
 I get a
 /~~~
 'Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.'
 \__


 I cant get the machine to release the sound card.
 This is a recurring problem. At times I can kill artsd. Other times
 there is no artsd running.

 The only way Ive gotten my sound back is rebooting.
 But that is so reminiscent of windows I dont want to go there any more.

 Any suggestions?

Well SOMETHING is obviously hanging onto the sound device. If you're prone
to having applications directly access the sound device you're likely to
run into this problem. There's a bunch of sound system LAYERS available
for GNOME/KDE depending on what stage of evolution your system's at. Try
esound-daemon (esd) on FC5. Then you change the apps to use this sound
system layer which is sort of like a software mixer thus allowing multiple
applications (and the desktop's bells and whistles) to access the sound
device concurrently. The situation has drastically improved in Fedora Core
6 and Fedora 7. You should also try turning off your GNOME/KDE's desktop
sound effects to help eliminate that problem.

I'm not an expert on desktop audio but there's a lot of stuff there to
play with.. OSS, ESD, Arts, Jack, ALSA (and stuff like ALSA's ESD
emulation), Network Sound System (or was it Network Sound Daemon?)

Also at a lower level... go to the command prompt and check out the fuser
and lsof commands. something like fuser /dev/mixer, lsof |grep dev
|less

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Re: [SLUG] vncviewer version 4.x on debian/ubuntu

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Grant Parnell

 What's the story with running VNC version 4 on Ubuntu etc?

Version 4 appears to be included by default in 7.10.

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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 23, 2007 10:59 am, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:54:29PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:


thanks, Matthew

 Try http://centos.karan.org/ - it's fedora4 extras rebuilt for centos.
 Both clamav and amavis are there.

ok, thanks for the tip

looks like they changed some of the naming, no more clamd,
guess I'll need to read up on this:

# grep nstalled: clam /var/log/yum*
/var/log/yum.log:Oct 23 12:31:43 Installed: clamav-data.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.kb
/var/log/yum.log:Oct 23 12:31:43 Installed: clamav-lib.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.kb
/var/log/yum.log:Oct 23 12:31:44 Installed: clamav.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.kb
/var/log/yum.log:Oct 23 12:35:15 Installed: clamav-server.i386
0.88.7-1.el4.kb
/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:13 Installed: clamav-db.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:14 Installed: clamav.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf
/var/log/yum.log.1:Dec 27 21:58:56 Installed: clamd.i386 0.88.7-1.el4.rf

# grep nstalled: amavi /var/log/yum*
/var/log/yum.log:Oct 23 12:35:16 Installed: amavisd-new.noarch 2.4.2-2.el4.kb

seeing as I had amavisd-new 2.5.2, am I likely to break anything if I
download amavisd-2.5.2.rpm and rpm install it ?



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[SLUG] rpmfusion

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan

On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:48:59PM +1000, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 There is no one right answer for this.  If it was me, other things
 being equal I'd install the latest fedora or ubuntu, because Redhat/Centos
 just doesn't have clamav and amavis as core packages (apparently)

Something worth mentioning is rpmfusion.  It's not here yet, but:
(from http://rpmfusion.org/Announce)

The Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna teams, already joined by
some Fedora contributors, are proud to announce the RPM
Fusion project.

RPM Fusion aims to bring together many packagers from
various 3rd party repos and build a single add-on
repository for Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

.

Repositories and infrastructure will follow Fedora
where possible. This means using Fedora's packaging
guidelines (except for legal), Fedora's review process
for new submissions, Fedora's VCS structure etc.

It will contain add-on packages and not replacements
in relation to the base package set. Whereby the base
package set is defined as: RHEL/CentOS + EPEL or Fedora
(Fedora 7+).

That last para is particularly welcome.

Matt

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Re: [SLUG] ipv6.broadway.aarnet.net.au

2007-10-22 Thread Christopher Vance
On 10/23/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will want to set this on an openwrt box, do you see any problems ?

My gateway runs a different free OS, so I can't give explicit
step-by-steps, but I would expect Linux on your openwrt to be more
than adequate.

The ifconfig manual on my Linux box mentions tunnel, so you look mostly set.

AARNet use the Hexago broker, which talks TSP (tunnel setup protocol).
 You might find a tspc package appropriate for your hardware and
distro, or you could perhaps compile it yourself from source.

Alternatively, you can keep the tunnel up by whacking on the
appropriate web from from time to time.  For my own use, I analysed
their web form sufficiently to write a perl script I run out of cron,
avoiding the use of a binary that can get increasingly decrepit as I
do my six-monthly OS upgrade.

I could pass on a redacted copy of this if you'd like.  (It only does
the keep-alive, not the initial tunnel setup, which is just static
OS-dependent configuration.)

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Re: [SLUG] clam/amavis changing owner on /var/log OK ?

2007-10-22 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 23, 2007 12:48 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:50:03PM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:

 Er you don't have both installed do you?!  I'd remove every rpmforge
 package first.

yes, I have, you mean, doesn't the rpm take care of such niggly details??

g,dr
no, I've 'rpm -e' clam* and amavisd-new 1st, then installed new


but that stuff differs somewhat from what I knew before...

just thinking... in the past, I've wgetted that stuff from Dag Wieers sp?,
and, it always worked good, (expect for need to manually update the
applications), I might go back to Dag's RPMs (though Dag seems to be part
of rpmforge now),

thanks for all your help,


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