RE: [SLUG] Mass converting Gigabites of wma to mp3

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Heycock

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 Don't use 'man find' - 'info find' is better.

info is evil.

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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


why not go the debian/ubuntu method. Start with a base debian build, create a
custom deb package (sort of a meta package) that pulls in all the relevant
other debs and does a config.  You could setup you own repo and your done.
Well another deb for each site to do the actual customer customisations.


Hi Alex,

yeah exactly...

I have actually checked out all the distros that I could and stumbled  
upon DSL or damn-small-linux. I'm customising that.


That is a knoppix/debian derivative, that boots very easily and has a  
lot of hardware support.


I think for the server version we are doing, it doesn't need a  
repository.. but can use the dsl/knoppix/debian packages, you get to  
pull down stuff off the debian repositories.


I'm thinking if somebody wants something outside the box, get a debian  
package. Having used debian for sometime, i can't see any way to beat  
their package repository. But linking to it seems to be pretty sensible.


Take care

David







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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs
a Linux distro.


Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a
start... :-(

That is a little dissappointing...

beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small
IT companies for a Server product that can do the
following:

 - boot up and install quickly (5 mins)

 - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS

 - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a
   VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix
   things on any of the machines (extra cost)

 - have some sort of backup facilities or
   service.

 - compete with the redmond server product

So it is a little different than a distro per se.

When I speak to small computer firms, most say that
small businesses would pay them $500 per year for
such a facility.


I am sure many of us on the list (me included) can vouch
for many successful deployments of, say, Debian-based
systems without the need for a local distro.


Yes. Debian rules..

but it isn't so easy to setup unless you go for knoppix
or ubuntu.

I would say that I would be challenged if asked to setup
debian from scratch on a new machine with samba and
networking all running if i had a $500 budget.

but I do know having something based on a live-cd that
is all pre-prepared is viable.

Regards

David

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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any other extras
I may or may not need depending on the function of the server.


Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that...


I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra install the
other things?


Exactly..

Have all the other things ready, even on a live-cd to give to a customer.

All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a vpn  
link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the support-staff  
to admin...


in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or whatever  
to support all the windows machines on the lan also.


That will create support opportunities and the chance to build up  
ongoing monthly incomes, depending on how many businesses the  
support-company can sign up.


I know a lot of IT-support companies would like to use linux a lot  
more but the problem is that the current distros aren't really  
configured in such a way that enables them to make money from them  
directly.


That is the big reason why i think there is space for a distro/derivative.

I honestly just don't know enough people (spend my time either  
hacking, or at sales meetings).So I wanted to bounce these ideas.



David







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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread david . lyon

Quoting Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thanks everyone...

Nice to get some responses... I'll just answer offlist..

Take care

David

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[SLUG] Fwd: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 25 January

2008-01-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Just another reminder to everyone. Only two days to go!


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Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008
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== January SLUG Monthly Meeting ==

You can read this announcement on the Web at http://www.slug.org.au/node/89


When:
   18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 25 January, 2008

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Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the 
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= Talk =

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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs
  a Linux distro.
 
 Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a
 start... :-(
 
 That is a little dissappointing...
 

No, but Canonical/Ubuntu has significant proportion of
Australian employees, theres a large number of Australians
involved with the Debain project, a large number of well 
known and respected Linux kernel hackers etc etc.

Australia is doing quite well really.

Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Fwd: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 25 January

2008-01-23 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

 Just another reminder to everyone. Only two days to go!

Since microsoft is attending that meeting, I've decided to go to
Melbourne and intend FOMS [0] instead :-).

Erik

[0] http://www.annodex.org/events/foms2008/
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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 23, 2008 3:03 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, but Canonical/Ubuntu has significant proportion of
 Australian employees, theres a large number of Australians
 involved with the Debain project, a large number of well
 known and respected Linux kernel hackers etc etc.

 Australia is doing quite well really.

Yes!  I was fortunate enough to hear Jeff Waugh speak at Ubuntu Live
2007, where I also spoke on the topic of Clonezilla, and he gave a
most entertaining talk while utilizing a Wii remote :-)  Very cool
indeed...
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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread Blindraven
Puppy Linux is Australian.

On Jan 23, 2008 2:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  You haven't explained why Australia in particular needs
  a Linux distro.

 Well, we haven't got a single one that I know of for a
 start... :-(

 That is a little dissappointing...

 beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small
 IT companies for a Server product that can do the
 following:

  - boot up and install quickly (5 mins)

  - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS

  - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a
VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix
things on any of the machines (extra cost)

  - have some sort of backup facilities or
service.

  - compete with the redmond server product

 So it is a little different than a distro per se.

 When I speak to small computer firms, most say that
 small businesses would pay them $500 per year for
 such a facility.

  I am sure many of us on the list (me included) can vouch
  for many successful deployments of, say, Debian-based
  systems without the need for a local distro.

 Yes. Debian rules..

 but it isn't so easy to setup unless you go for knoppix
 or ubuntu.

 I would say that I would be challenged if asked to setup
 debian from scratch on a new machine with samba and
 networking all running if i had a $500 budget.

 but I do know having something based on a live-cd that
 is all pre-prepared is viable.

 Regards

 David

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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 21:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 beyond that.. there appears to be a niche within small
 IT companies for a Server product that can do the
 following:
 
   - boot up and install quickly (5 mins)
 
   - provide file sharing, and maybe CMS
 
   - call *designated-support-firm* and setup a
 VPN link so *support-firm* can RDP or VNC and fix
 things on any of the machines (extra cost)
 
   - have some sort of backup facilities or
 service.
 
   - compete with the redmond server product

I can see the necessity for the above - I frequently get requests to
setup small networks and turn them down because of time/$ ratio -
contracting 9-5 in a Megacorp is easier :-)

The only *Australian* part of above is call *designated-support-firm*,
etc - for this I would go with Alex Samad's suggestion of a meta deb, +
allow *designated-support-firm* to customize a conf file with details
and ssh keys to produce a live CD.


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RE: [SLUG] Mass converting Gigabites of wma to mp3

2008-01-23 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 09:52 +1100, Richard Heycock wrote:
  Don't use 'man find' - 'info find' is better.
 
 info is evil.

Notice I said 'better' not 'best' :-) 

I too find info a PITA (and even more of a PITA to teach to noobs) and
will have a play with the suggested pinfo.

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Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro

2008-01-23 Thread jam

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 05:20 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any
 other extras
  I may or may not need depending on the function of the
 server.
 
 Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that...
 
  I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra
 install the
  other things?
 
 Exactly..
 
 Have all the other things ready, even on a live-cd to give
 to a customer.
 
 All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a
 vpn  
 link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the
 support-staff  
 to admin...
 
 in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or
 whatever  
 to support all the windows machines on the lan also.
[snip]
When I'm old I shall wear purple [famous poem]
And declare ideas such as these cute naive and silly

The resources to support a distro, that you are selling support for
hence lible for as part of your deal are enormous eg redhat, ubuntu,
suse.

You could easily achieve your goals:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch

The founders of SuSE have, can't find a ref offhand - but I installed
and looked at, a server business version:

It installs all office-server stuff
It installed in minutes
There were no questions beyond 'This will erase all partitions on your
disk Yes/No' So you could not even specify partition sizes, all was
automatic.

James

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[SLUG] Re: Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux

2008-01-23 Thread jam
http://www.collax.com/index.php?id=1L=1

A reference for my post
James

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