Re: [SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
> > > > Last night I was trying to upgrade some Ubuntu machines using the Ubuntu > > CDs (rather than downloading all the packages), in order to save > > bandwidth. I couldn't get the upgrade to download packages off the CD; > > in the end I did clean installs - no big deal since /home was separate. > > > > I'm just wondering how you're supposed to do it, and more importantly, > > how a newbie would be supposed to do it. > > 8< ... snip ... 8< > > > The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should > > I have used the Alternate CDs instead? > > Yes, stick an alternate CD in the drive and a dialogue will pop up asking > if you'd like to use it as a source (and then upgrade). Salient point that I managed to skip: The alternate CD has packages on it, while the Live CD is just a great big compressed image of a filesystem... so it won't help with upgrades at all (yet [1]). - Jeff [1] Years ago there was some inspired brainstorming about ways to do this very cleverly, but I don't imagine it's on the agenda at the moment. Net connected upgrades are just so bloody convenient and simple (and ALL of the developers have fantastic net connections, of course). -- linux.conf.au 2010: Wellington, NZ http://www.penguinsvisiting.org.nz/ "It is not enough for me to wear dark sunglasses and a wig. The wheelchair gives me away. People want to be photographed with me, but it can be a nuisance when I am in a hurry." - Stephen Hawking on celebrity -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
> Last night I was trying to upgrade some Ubuntu machines using the Ubuntu > CDs (rather than downloading all the packages), in order to save > bandwidth. I couldn't get the upgrade to download packages off the CD; > in the end I did clean installs - no big deal since /home was separate. > > I'm just wondering how you're supposed to do it, and more importantly, > how a newbie would be supposed to do it. 8< ... snip ... 8< > The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should > I have used the Alternate CDs instead? Yes, stick an alternate CD in the drive and a dialogue will pop up asking if you'd like to use it as a source (and then upgrade). (It's not always massively useful for folks with lots of bandwidth, since you're likely to have extra stuff not represented on the install CD... But in the case of a basic Ubuntu machine installed in the field, it's pretty good. Also consider the use of a DVD image if you want the whole archive available.) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2010: Wellington, NZ http://www.penguinsvisiting.org.nz/ "Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should I > have used the Alternate CDs instead? Haven't tried it but http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ should work with a dist-upgrade -- Harrison Conlin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
Thanks for that, I'll give it a go on the next upgrade I do. But going back to the second part of my question, how would a non-technical user do it? For example, here's a hypothetical use case for a 3rd world country I've worked in: "Juan-Carlos has been using Ubuntu for 12 months, and now wants to upgrade because he's heard that Network Manager will solve some networking issues he's having. He is currently sharing an expensive satellite link with several neighbours, and downloading 1G of files to upgrade is out of the question. He travels by bus into the district capital, and downloads and burns the next Ubuntu iso at an internet cafe. Upon getting home, he tries to upgrade using the CD but none of the menu items cause the files on the CD to be used. In disgust, he let's his neighbour reinstall a pirate copy of Window$ XP SP2 and solves his network problems". (It's Guatemala, and "privatise everything" has done wonders for the cost of utilities). Sonia Hamilton. Blindraven wrote: 2 Ways you can do that : Mount the ISO as a drive with a command like: sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0 or gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" Regards, Harrison. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Sonia Hamilton wrote: Last night I was trying to upgrade some Ubuntu machines using the Ubuntu CDs (rather than downloading all the packages), in order to save bandwidth. I couldn't get the upgrade to download packages off the CD; in the end I did clean installs - no big deal since /home was separate. I'm just wondering how you're supposed to do it, and more importantly, how a newbie would be supposed to do it. I tried doing it the GUI way - adding the CD via "Software Sources", then upgrading via "Update Manager" I tried doing it via the shell - various combinations of `apt cd-rom add`, `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade`, `apt-get dist-upgrade`, editing /etc/apt/sources.list. The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should I have used the Alternate CDs instead? -- Sonia Hamilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
2 Ways you can do that : Mount the ISO as a drive with a command like: sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0 or gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" Regards, Harrison. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > > Last night I was trying to upgrade some Ubuntu machines using the Ubuntu CDs > (rather than downloading all the packages), in order to save bandwidth. I > couldn't get the upgrade to download packages off the CD; in the end I did > clean installs - no big deal since /home was separate. > > I'm just wondering how you're supposed to do it, and more importantly, how a > newbie would be supposed to do it. > > I tried doing it the GUI way - adding the CD via "Software Sources", then > upgrading via "Update Manager" > > I tried doing it via the shell - various combinations of `apt cd-rom add`, > `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade`, `apt-get dist-upgrade`, editing > /etc/apt/sources.list. > > The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should I > have used the Alternate CDs instead? > > -- > Sonia Hamilton. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] upgrading Ubuntu with CDs to save bandwidth?
Last night I was trying to upgrade some Ubuntu machines using the Ubuntu CDs (rather than downloading all the packages), in order to save bandwidth. I couldn't get the upgrade to download packages off the CD; in the end I did clean installs - no big deal since /home was separate. I'm just wondering how you're supposed to do it, and more importantly, how a newbie would be supposed to do it. I tried doing it the GUI way - adding the CD via "Software Sources", then upgrading via "Update Manager" I tried doing it via the shell - various combinations of `apt cd-rom add`, `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade`, `apt-get dist-upgrade`, editing /etc/apt/sources.list. The only thing I can think of is that I was using the Live CDs - should I have used the Alternate CDs instead? -- Sonia Hamilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [SLUG] The LaTeX Problem revisited.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:58 +1100 (EST)
wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote:
> \bibdata{ReferenceList}
> No file ETL503AssignmentOne.bbl.
Need to run bibtex?
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Re: [SLUG] The LaTeX Problem revisited.
Hi - have you run bibtex on the file? The Makefile I use (well -
pinched and modified one by a friend - thanks Leigh!) looks like this
and renders refs with apacite style with no dramas:
# Makefile to produce a .pdf, html and rtf versions of a LaTeX2e paper
from .tex files
PAPER = hons_2009
%.pdf: %.tex
pdflatex $<
bibtex $*
pdflatex $<
pdflatex $<
pdflatex $<
# Best converter from html to rtf is just load the thing in TextEdit.
%.html: %.tex
latex2html -noinfo -mkdir -dir html -nonavigation -noaddress
-split 0 -noshort_index $<
%.odt: %.tex
mk4ht oolatex $<
all: $(PAPER).pdf
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote:
> I have, on the desktop the following:---
>
> apacite.sty
>
> a dummy file, ETL503AssignmentOne.tex
> containing one reference, \cite{Zimmer2001}
>
> a file, ReferenceList.bib, containing one reference, a whole book,
> Zimmer2001
>
> Running LaTeX several times produces the attachment, Output
>
> As far as I can see, LaTeX has picked up on apacite.sty
>
> And that's it.
>
> Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Bennett.
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[SLUG] The LaTeX Problem revisited.
I have, on the desktop the following:---
apacite.sty
a dummy file, ETL503AssignmentOne.tex
containing one reference, \cite{Zimmer2001}
a file, ReferenceList.bib, containing one reference, a whole book,
Zimmer2001
Running LaTeX several times produces the attachment, Output
As far as I can see, LaTeX has picked up on apacite.sty
And that's it.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Bill Bennett.This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
entering extended mode
(./ETL503AssignmentOne.tex
LaTeX2e <2003/12/01>
Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh
yphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size12.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/tools/array.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfss/palatino.sty) (./apacite.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/setspace/setspace.sty
Package: `setspace' 6.7 <2000/12/01>
)
\bibdata{ReferenceList}
No file ETL503AssignmentOne.bbl.
(./ETL503AssignmentOne.aux)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ppl.fd)
LaTeX Warning: Citation `Zimmer2001' undefined on input line 19.
[1] [2] [3] (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/psnfss/omsppl.fd) [4]
(./ETL503AssignmentOne.aux)
LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references.
)
Output written on ETL503AssignmentOne.dvi (4 pages, 5524 bytes).
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[SLUG] xp/linux dual boot with xp bootmanager?
I have an XP with single IDE HD, can I add a second HD and use XP's boot.ini to allow either one to boot ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Draft paper submission deadline extended (will not be extended further): SETP-09
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Re: [SLUG] A LaTeX question
Hi Bill
On my machine they are under here: /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/bibtex/
Under here is:
bib/apacite
beebe/apa.bst
beebe/apalike2.bst
At CTAN http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/biblio/bibtex/contrib/apacite/
there is the apacite.pdf that explains how to use it and what the output should
be like.
Hope the above helps a bit.
Quoting wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au:
>
> I'm helping a student set a paper in LaTeX and I'm having trouble with
> BibTeX.
>
> The trouble is that she has to use the American Psychology Association
> style. As one who uses only the Harvard system, I am trying to keep it
> simple, if only to broaden my own education.
>
> Normally, I would simple include
>
> \bibliographystyle{apa}
>
> in the preamble, then
>
> \bibliography{ReferenceList}
>
> towards the end of the essay (TLC suggestion)
>
> and the reference would be
>
> ReferenceList.bib
>
> following the form in TLC.
>
> But something's not working.
>
> It occurs to me that apa.bst might not be part of the standard LaTeX
> package (I can't find it, if it is).
>
> Can anyone help? I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Bennett.
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] A LaTeX question
At Sun, 8 Mar 2009 02:52:40 +1100 (EST),
wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote:
>
>
> I'm helping a student set a paper in LaTeX and I'm having trouble with
> BibTeX.
>
> The trouble is that she has to use the American Psychology Association
> style. As one who uses only the Harvard system, I am trying to keep it
> simple, if only to broaden my own education.
>
> Normally, I would simple include
>
> \bibliographystyle{apa}
I think it's mslapa.bst not apa.bst
See:
/usr/share/
> I'm helping a student set a paper in LaTeX and I'm having trouble with
> BibTeX.
>
> The trouble is that she has to use the American Psychology Association
> style. As one who uses only the Harvard system, I am trying to keep it
> simple, if only to broaden my own education.
>
> Normally, I would simple include
>
> \bibliographystyle{apa}
I think it's mslapa.bst not apa.bst
See:
/usr/share/
> I'm helping a student set a paper in LaTeX and I'm having trouble with
> BibTeX.
>
> The trouble is that she has to use the American Psychology Association
> style. As one who uses only the Harvard system, I am trying to keep it
> simple, if only to broaden my own education.
>
> Normally, I would simple include
>
> \bibliographystyle{apa}
I think it's mslapa.bst not apa.bst
See:
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/bibtex/bst/mslapa/mslapa.bst
in the texlive-latex-extra package.
Peter C
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