Re: [SLUG] Backups keeping symbolic links.

2006-11-13 Thread Eddie F

I meant that we'd like to keep symlinks and restore them as they
where, rather than replacing the symlink with the original file or
loosing them all together.


On 11/13/06, Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 03:06:28PM +1100, Eddie F wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been ask the question by a friend about what alternatives to cpio
 there might be, for backing up to a tape drive and keeping symbolic
 links preserved. Had a bit of a dig around on Google, but haven't had
 much luck... Any suggestions?

Pretty much everything keeps symlinks, cpio, tar, dump.

Or did you mean you want to save the thing symlinked-to?



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[SLUG] Backups keeping symbolic links.

2006-11-12 Thread Eddie F

Hi all,

I've been ask the question by a friend about what alternatives to cpio
there might be, for backing up to a tape drive and keeping symbolic
links preserved. Had a bit of a dig around on Google, but haven't had
much luck... Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Edd.
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Re: [SLUG] Report writer for MySQL + C-ISAM?

2004-09-20 Thread Eddie F
  We we're replacing our 16-bit window report writer with Crystal, but

 It may help to give some description of what Crystal does. I for one
 don't know but I'm guessing from this that it's some kind of thing that
 draws graphs and so forth from the output of database queries?

Yes... It's a report writer! ;-)

BTW: Graphs are one of the many fancy things we don't need.
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[SLUG] Report writer for MySQL + C-ISAM?

2004-09-19 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

We we're replacing our 16-bit window report writer with Crystal, but
that's starting to look way too expensive. Any one know what FOSS
applications, we could run on our Linux boxes instead? Doesn't need to
be any where near as fancy as Crystal, basic report writing is fine.

Currently we're runing C-ISAM databases, but will be changing that to MySQL.

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[SLUG] GMail invites.

2004-09-09 Thread Eddie F
The first 20 replys to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can have one.
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[SLUG] FOSS email server for Outlook clients?

2004-08-04 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

We're looking at ditching Exchange, but unfortunately we need to keep
Outlook. Shared resources like calendars and contacts is still
needed...  Any ideas?

Edd.
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[SLUG] Blue PCI Slot?

2004-07-05 Thread Eddie F
Howdy,

Looking at motherboards, and came across this;
http://au.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4ge-v/overview.htm#

Anyone know what the deal is with the blue PCI slot?

Edd.
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[SLUG] ACT/CRM Alernative?

2004-04-18 Thread Eddie F
At work, the sales guys are pushing to replace ACT! with MS CRM. It relies 
very much on an MS infrastructure requiring MS-SQL2000, Exchange2000/2003 
and it's own Win2000/2003 server running IIS, all in the same AD.
We where planning an SQL server for our AD anyway, but we would still have 
to purchase another pretty highly spec'd server. Plus I just don't like how 
heavily it relies on this MS infrastructure, especially since I was hoping 
to one day suggest a Linux replacement for Exchange.
Has anyone had any experience with open source alternatives to ACT! and MS 
CRM?

Eddie F.

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[SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.

2004-04-03 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

After first boot settings entered for eth0 where lost. Sorted all this out 
and all works fine after running ifup eth0, but this interface isn't started 
at boot.
So... How does Debian 3.0 r2 normally start network interfaces at bootup?

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Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.

2004-04-03 Thread Eddie F
From: David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 After first boot settings entered for eth0 where lost. Sorted
 all this out and all works fine after running ifup eth0, but
 this interface isn't started at boot. So... How does Debian
 3.0 r2 normally start network interfaces at bootup?
In /etc/network/interfaces.
Ummm... yeh... I've edited this apropriately, so when I bring up the 
interface manually it works ok... But how does Debian start the interfaces 
at boot, so I don't have to running ifup eth0, everytime I boot?

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Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.

2004-04-03 Thread Eddie F
   After first boot settings entered for eth0 where lost. Sorted
   all this out and all works fine after running ifup eth0, but
   this interface isn't started at boot. So... How does Debian
   3.0 r2 normally start network interfaces at bootup?
 
 In /etc/network/interfaces.

 Ummm... yeh... I've edited this apropriately, so when I bring up the
 interface manually it works ok... But how does Debian start the
 interfaces at boot, so I don't have to running ifup eth0, everytime I
 boot?
Define appropriately...
Definition = Copied from a latop on the same network, except with different 
IP :-)

# /etc/network/interfaces -- blah blah
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The First NIC - Created by me manually, coz the install has NFI
iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.2
 netmask 255.255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 broadcast 192.168.0.255
 gateway 192.168.0.1

Make sure that network in /etc/rc2.d/ is actually starting.
Did this (I think) by creating the sym' link;
S40networking - ../init.d/networking
Hope this is right... got this frm finding same in rcS.d
Anyway seems to be starting, as I get the mesage at boot;
Configuring network interfaces: ifup : interface lo already configured
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Re: [SLUG] Debian not starting eth0 at boot.

2004-04-03 Thread Eddie F
From: David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eddie,
Looks right. Have you ever tried etherconf:
 apt-cache show etherconf
apt-cache show etherconf gives;
W: Unable to locate package etherconfig
apt-get install etherconf gives;
something about not being able to fins packe last time I ran it, but now it 
seems to work... No... I don't think it was because the interface was down, 
coz I checked it...
Anyway it's installed now... Ran it... configured... rebooted... All is well 
:-)

Thanks heaps David!

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Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-14 Thread Eddie F
From: Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Evolution has no creator and no intelligence.
 Linux has a creator and intelligence.
Not necessarily.
It is commonly assumed that theories of evolution negates a controlling 
intelligence, and therefore an intelligent creator. Life had to begin 
somewhere. Who's to say that it's creator, didn't intentionally given it the 
tenancy to replicate imperfectly, just enough. Not too much. Not too little. 
It's a more chaotic solution than never ending control, but a great way to 
give it a better chance of survival against unforeseen environmental 
conditions?

Some microbiologists argue that conditions on Earth encourage the start of 
the very beginnings of life and that it is just plain inevitable. This has 
been simulated in labs and is so easy, in conditions that are so common all 
over the planet, it's most probable that life is continually being created 
all over the world. Even if this where true, who's to say all this wasn't 
the “intention” at the very beginnings of the universe. This may not 
necessarily mean that evolution isn't controlled a lot more than we think, 
just because we don't see any means of control
 * I digress *  This is probably for another thread, on another 
list.

Anyway, with all that said... As the evolution of Linux has been controlled 
(“fix/improve as you go”), it probably doesn't quite compare with 
life-on-earth's more chaotic(???) evolution.

Edd.

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Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread Eddie F
Try here:
http://www.whereis.com.au
From: Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:57:41AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event?
 Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is!

 Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and
 then click the Map of Event Location link.

 A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street
 from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed!

 It starts at 1000ft but you can zoom in with the magnifying glass + gif
 to 500ft then 250ft to 100ft to 50ft; it's amazing just how detailed
 and useful the information is; the folks at whereis.com.au could really
 learn from these guys.

You're kidding, are you?

  * no road names

  * if you are not from sydney you wouldnt no that line across
that blue stuff is some famous piece of metal.
  * from 2500ft onwards all you see is some blue and yellow
areas with a grey line across and a 1 pointing to
the road or some building?
The only reason *I* know from THAT map where the venue
is because I stayed there a number of times.
not amazing after all.

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RE: [SLUG] accessing MS desktops from Linux

2004-02-22 Thread Eddie F
I can tell you that the Citrix clients for Linux work very well, Including 
the optional mapping of client drives and printers.



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From: Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] accessing MS desktops from Linux
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:31:02 +1100 (EST)
One of my clients is planning to upgrade their network, and I'm pricing MS
(Terminal services + a whole n/w of new desktops + licenses - ouch). What
I want to do is put Linux on all the old desktops, and have graphical
access to 1 windows machine - what can I run on Linux that will do this?
I know I can use VNC, but it's a bit clunky, especially since the 1
Windows app that the users need to access is their main app (which they
use all day).
Anyone had experience with the Citrix ICA Client running on Linux? It
looks promising.
Any other hints as to what I could use?

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[SLUG] SLUG isn't listed?!?!?!

2004-02-19 Thread Eddie F
http://www.linux.org/groups/australia.html

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Re: [SLUG] Press request: Legitimate uses of P2P

2004-02-17 Thread Eddie F
Hmmm sounds like a sting operation.
Yes it does, doesn't it?

All P2P is illegal;...
Well... Probably close to all... but not all.
I have seen (and even skimmed one) articles on the use of P2P to share 
documents and media files. This is within the organization that owns said 
documents, media files, and the itellectual properly within. It's a niche 
market! Think I saw these articles in;
IDM - Image Data Manager - http://idm.net.au


underground hackers want publicity (that's why they
go underground in the first place); trick them into showing off their
uses of P2P then arrest them.
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Re: [SLUG] Stupid Console Screensaver.

2004-01-12 Thread Eddie F
That is the right syntax, you might want to check the console-tools 
settings if
you are using Debian, I've noticed that they have sometimes screwed with my
console settings.

	Pete.
RedHat 9 !

Around about 1718h 12/01/2004, Eddie F emitted the following wisdom:
 Doesn't seem to be working for me, on several boxes!
 # setterm -blank 0
 Do I have the syntax right?... Am I missing a paramater?... It's so
 un-obvious, it must be obvious!
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[SLUG] Stupid Console Screensaver.

2004-01-11 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

I have tried to disable the console screensaver (on RedHat 9) with;
setterm -blank 0
but have had no luck.
Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: [SLUG] Stupid Console Screensaver.

2004-01-11 Thread Eddie F

Which user and which terminal are you attempting to disable it from?
root, all of the console virtual terminals.

Generally, doing so as root on one of the virtual consoles will work.
Doesn't seem to be working for me, on several boxes!
# setterm -blank 0
Do I have the syntax right?... Am I missing a paramater?... It's so 
un-obvious, it must be obvious!





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Re: [SLUG] Programming Book, for Open Source.

2003-12-22 Thread Eddie F
From: Gottfried Szing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like to get back into programming, to read (and possibly modify) open 
source code for Linux.
Any book suggestions?
hm, many open queastions.
Yes... Email first, think later!

what language?

From what I can gather, most projects are either C or Python (correct me if 
I'm wrong), so these 2.

what kind of programming?
kernel or application development?
Apps.

what experience do you have?
Programing at Uni. Mostly in OO using C++, Java, VB, Delphi and Eiffel. A 
little bit of procedural stuff in C and Basic, and a little Unix scripting.

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Re: [SLUG] Programming Book, for Open Source.

2003-12-22 Thread Eddie F

From: Gottfried Szing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my suggestion to start programming and to contribute: use your apps as 
usuall and if you have an idea to improve an app (eg missing feature or 
problem which can be tracked down), feel free to change/enhance the code 
and send a patch. this will help u to get a feeling how the community 
works.
That's my plan, but I'm not getting very far with it. Thanks for the long 
friendly debate people, but I'm still none the wiser.

Which lang' is used most in open source Linux application projects, is it C 
or C++?

And can anyone suggest a book? I'm hoping there might be one that is aimed 
at working with OS projects, rather than just a book on how to cut code.

Thanks.
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[SLUG] Programming Book, for Open Source.

2003-12-21 Thread Eddie F
I'd like to get back into programming, to read (and possibly modify) open 
source code for Linux.
Any book suggestions?

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RE: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system

2003-12-16 Thread Eddie F
If the hardware isn't too different there may not be a problem, and it maybe 
just find all the hardware... I've found it's usually only a problem when 
moving between single and multi proccessor systems... ghost the disk first 
though, just in case.
I've heard another way around it is to do an 'apgrade', if you have a W2K 
upgrade CD (eventhough it's already running W2K), and pull the disk out 
before it reboots. Then put it in the new system and watch it find all the 
hadware on it's 'first-boot' Never tried this myself though.



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From: Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:59
I need to transfer a W2K HD to a new PC, totally different hardware,

is there a way to do it short of re-installing W2K,
or:
don't waste time, just reinstall afresh
all user data is on a different partition, so, fresh install is not
really an issue, apart from time it takes


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Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives

2003-12-10 Thread Eddie F
B2/C... Coz it makes it possible for good quality, free (as in beer) 
software to be available I guess that's B3... or is it C2?... Anyway, 
all of what makes it possible for good quality, free (a$ in beer) software!

C... When wearing my 'ideal world' hat.

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:57:02 +1100
quote who=Jeff Waugh

   a) An alternative to Windows

   b) Access to source code
b2) Ability to freely read, modify and distribute source (+ binaries)

   c) The ideal of continuing software freedom

(Just adding that one in.)

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Re: [SLUG] 30 days for SCO to put up or shut up

2003-12-07 Thread Eddie F
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20031123mode=classic

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From: Del [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: slug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] 30 days for SCO to put up or shut up
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:08:23 +1100
Rick Welykochy wrote:

The more I read from Lessig and Moglen, the easier I sleep
at night over the SCO madness.
On the other hand, the more I read from Darl the easier I
sleep.  It means that no matter how stupid I think some of
the people I have to deal with are, there is always one
more stupid.  :)
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iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-26 Thread Eddie F
I'd like to *sell* apache to the boss.
Something like this on IIS and Apache would be great.
Anyone got any such links handy?
Original Message Follows

Someone was asking about this the other day:

http://www.itweek.co.uk/News/1144312

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Re: iis vs apache - Re: [SLUG] win2003 vs samba

2003-11-26 Thread Eddie F
  I'd like to *sell* apache to the boss.
  Something like this on IIS and Apache would be great.
  Anyone got any such links handy?

 Wheeler's page on open source software.
 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html  (updated, must read it again)
Cheers!

 Basically you go with the webserver with the largest market penetration,
 guess which one that is.
Hmmm... so we should all use Windows? Dodgey logic here. ;-)
True. If I say hey boss, lets just go with the masses, it's not going to 
work.
I'm definitely going to let him know that Apache is the most used... blah 
blah blah... the internet was built on Apache... but I more than that...
I want to show him that it's more stable, faster, less vulnerable and has 
lower TCO.
Just as the above web page shows!

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Re: [SLUG] Application Server?

2003-11-21 Thread Eddie F
Thanks Matt.

They are our own applications which are constantly being updated already, 
and since we'll be looking at having to spend so much on licensing, it will 
be worth at least considering the migration if possible. Currently they are 
built using BuildPro, accessing/manipulating data on RedHat 8.0 DB servers 
(Informix/C-ISAM).

Also Crystal Reports Writer is being used, but I'm sure this there are open 
source equivalents for this.

MetaFrame was chosen many years ago as a means to deliver an online GUI 
application, that could run on any win32 client PC and then applications 
where built. Incidentally we have no control over client PCs as these are 
not ours. We have to provide accessability to win32 clients.

Cheers.
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From : Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject : Re: [SLUG] Application Server?
Date : Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:18:39 +1100
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:45:34AM +1100, Eddie F wrote:
Anyone know of any open source application server projects?
The amount of money that we are going to have to shell out for M$/Citrix 
licensing is rediculous.
I don't know if your idea of Application Server is the same as these folks,
but the GNUe project (http://www.gnue.org) are producing an application
server as part of their aim to produce an Enterprise-grade internet
applications platform.
From your comparison to Microsoft and Citrix, though, it looks like you're
after more of a centralised server to run regular applications on.  Well,
any Linux box is capable of doing that, but the problem is that TS or
WinFrame will run Windows apps, while a Linux box is going to have a lot
more trouble (some Windows apps run on Linux courtesy of Wine, but it's very
much on a case-by-case basis).  If you're after something along those lines,
then you're likely to be out of luck.  Encourage your client to switch to
thin clients based on Unix - much, much cheaper.  Hell, they can spend the
licencing fees on software development, which will give them a constantly
improving system, for what they used to spend just staying in one spot!
If they're not tied to any one particular program, chances are there's an
OSS equivalent which will do at least 80% of what they need, and the other
20% can be paid to be developed and given back to the community.  Very good
publicity...
- Matt

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[SLUG] Application Server?

2003-11-20 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

Anyone know of any open source application server projects?
The amount of money that we are going to have to shell out for M$/Citrix 
licensing is rediculous.

Thanks!
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Re: [SLUG] SLUG refocus

2003-09-21 Thread Eddie F
If it ever gets to court, just present the movie to the judge as evidence, 
then sneak out as he falls asleep ;-),

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and SLUG will get sued by a huge film studio for using the acronym
LOTR which everybody knows stands for Lord of the Rings :-)
that will revitalise SLUG :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 9 install

2003-09-07 Thread Eddie F
linux mem=512M noprobe
At the boot prompt hit F4 for kernel arguments.


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From: Chris Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Redhat 9 install
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:05:24 +1000
I'm no expert, but I thought there was an arguement you could pass to the
boot loader to specify the ammount of memory the setup program should
use
I cant remember how to do it, but basically instead if just hitting enter
when the cd-rom boots, i think you type something like linux mem=64 or
something like that...check the help screen when the cd-rom boots.
This MIGHT fix the problem.

I have experienced similar problems to what your describing, but not because
of alot of memory, it was because of faulty memory, so you might want to
make sure your memory isn't ill.
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From: Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Redhat 9 install
 After a cumulative 15 man-hours wasted time, we've finally found out 
there
are known
 problems with installation on systems with useful amounts of RAM. We had 
a
 successful install on a 64Mb router/firewall, but when we try to install
on a 512Mb
 system, the install kept coming up with CD read errors - on three 
separate
sets of
 CDs and three separate systems. I understand that anaconda has memory
management
 issues.

 So the question is: has anyone come up with a work-around for this?

 Edwin Humphries,
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[SLUG] SLUG Emails Double-up.

2003-08-27 Thread Eddie F
Is it just me?



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Re: [SLUG] Ping me please!

2003-08-26 Thread Eddie F
Oops... Sorry Adam... Sending things to the wrong places!

David,
If you are atill able to browse the Web, go to:
http://www.network-tools.com/
and ping yourself from there!
Edd.



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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Ping me please!
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:30:21 +0800
seems to be working

#ping 202.12.88.42
PING 202.12.88.42 (202.12.88.42) 56(84) bytes of data.
--- 202.12.88.42 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping 202.12.88.106
PING 202.12.88.106 (202.12.88.106) 56(84) bytes of data.
--- 202.12.88.106 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 999ms


On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:26, David Fisher wrote:
 Would some kind person please try pinging the addresses 202.12.88.42 or
 202.12.88.106 and let me know the results, please?

 I need to test the ICMP block on my router from external ping traffic.

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[SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-21 Thread Eddie F
Hi all,

I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
purposes. Looks like I’m doing well, so I’ll probably be looking at which 
one to get over the next few weeks.
I’ve installed on a few laptops before (old and new) so I’m familiar with 
the kind of issues that I could face and how to get around some of them, but 
I’m wondering if any of the manufactures tend to be more or less Linux 
friendly than the others.
I’m sure most of their support teams will fob me off, the instant I mention 
Linux (or any other OS), but there may be some that are willing to give me 
the information I need in my efforts to resolve something.
God forbid there may even be one that provides Linux drivers… Then again 
maybe not!

Cheers.
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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] SLUG Meeting: this Friday (February 28th)

2003-02-26 Thread Eddie F
Hello Mary,

Do I need to be a member to attend this Friday?

 --- Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi
everyone,
 
 As always, SLUG's monthly meeting is happening on
 the last Friday of the
 month. SLUG meetings are open to the public and free
 of charge.
 
When:
   Friday, February 28th, 6:30pm - 9:30pm
 
Where:
   UTS Broadway
 
   Room: 6.322 (directions at end of mail)
 
  * The Usual Suspects - Starts 6:30pm
   + QA - What has Linux done for/to me
 lately? + SLUG News 
 Discussion
 
  * 7:10pm: Adrian van den Dries: Introduction
 to Zope.
 
From http://www.zope.org/:
 
 Zope is a leading open source application
 server, specializing
 in content management, portals, and custom
 applications. Zope
 enables teams to collaborate in the creation
 and management of
 dynamic web-based business applications such
 as intranets and
 portals.
 
Adrian will be talking about Zope for
 non-programmers.

  * 8:00pm: Break
  * 8:20pm:
 
Split into two grousp for:
 
 - Peter Miller: AEGIS
 
  or
 
 - SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of
 Linux and Free
   Software
 
  * Dinner - Starts around 9:15pm
 
Spice Boys (Indian) for Dinner. It's $20 for
 mains, around 30 people.
 
 -Mary
 
 Directions to meeting
 
 From the corner of Harris St and Broadway, walk
 down Harris St on
 the same side as the Agincourt Hotel until you
 come to a reddish
 coloured building with a UTS logo, which may
 also be known as the
 Peter Johnson Building.
 
 Continue past a long flight of stairs, past the
 Union Shop until you
 see a small flight of stairs going up to glass
 doors. These stairs
 are before a driveway and the new ABC building.
 
 Go up the stairs, thru the glass doors and into
 the foyer. This
 should be level 3. Walk towards the lifts,
 keeping them on your
 right, until you reach a corridor behind them.
 Turn to your left.
 This should place you at the entrance to room
 6.322, a large tiered
 lecture theatre for the monthly meeting. 
 

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