Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m
Rick Last time I checked (and I'm going from memory), there were high power access points that put out 20-25dBa, instead of the 8-12dBa that is standard (that's 500mW, instead of around 18mW). There are also commercial directional antennas, such as Yagi and backfire antennas, with gains of up to 16dBi. But, as Jason said, there is a need for them to be line-of-sight. If that's not possible, you may need an antenna with circular polarisation - these are more expensive. But most are not suited for dual frequency signals (and in any event you probably won't get a 5MHz signal to propagate 500m). Of course, you should plan on two matched antennas. Regards Edwin Humphries On 23/05/14 02:57, Rick Welykochy wrote: Hi Sluggers, I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from an Internet connection to his house in the bush. Ethernet seems limited to 100m. Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m. Any suggestions for bridging this gap? thanks, rickw -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Download speed
Can anyone suggest a way of testing the download speed of my NBN fibre connection every hour and logging it? I have an ostensibly 100Mbps connection, but the speed seems to vary enormously, so an automated process would be good. -- Thanks Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Reuse or Recycle Your Old Computer
Surely it rather depends on what the intended use of the old computer is? I've heard of using old computers as routers, NAS boxes and so on, and whilst I applaud the idea of extending useful life, using a 75-100W PC to do the job of a 10-15W router is hardly energy efficient - or cost effective. Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 On 03/02/14 15:40, Jason Ball wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, James Linder wrote: On 3 Feb 2014, at 10:48 am, Jason Ball wrote: Your old computer uses much more energy than a new one. Powering the beast creates much more CO2 than the new ones and save the environment (sic) causes much more harm than binning it (hopefully decently) Prove it. Please include the carbon cost of the new machine, shipping etc, while you are at it. Cheers. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM, James Linder wrote: Computers and mobile devices become obsolete much quicker than other consumer products, such as refrigerators and cars. Electronic equipment can contain toxic and valuable materials which should not be simply put into landfill. Before you buy a new computer, tablet or phone, look at the options of what to do with the old one. Tom Worthington is author of the free ebook "ICT Sustainability: Assessment and Strategies for a Low Carbon Future": http://www.tomw.net.au/ict_sustainability/introduction.shtml Tom just for fun (well not really, but for a consider this) Your old computer uses much more energy than a new one. Powering the beast creates much more CO2 than the new ones and save the environment (sic) causes much more harm than binning it (hopefully decently) Jason and Margharita I'm not standing on my soapbox, just encouraging our younger members to think through the implications of their actions, rather than being swayed by the warm and fuzzy hype. I think that slug collects the best and finest and that issues like this are oh so important, specially before one gets old and cynical. The kudos flow from doing something, rather than being seen to do something. So while this drifts OT it is really really important and the opinions of Jason, Margharita et al are really really important too. James It was more the falacious argument 'your old computer uses much more energy than a new one' where I said 'prove it'. I shouldn't have responded so briefly. A UN analysis (reference pending) has put the carbon cost of a 'desktop pc' at ~250KG. This is difficult to truly quantify as the cost of components and shipping etc will vary. A modest desktop PC can chew through 55KG of carbon a year, 35KG for smaller systems. On a worst case, buy a new PC every year for three (3) years and burn > 800KG of carbon, or keep your pc for three (3) years and burn ~285KG, keep it for an additional three years and your carbon burn is an additional 105KG assuming moderate use (35KG) for all calculations. There are many reasons to upgrade, the 'your old computer uses much more energy than a new one' is not one of them. If you are buying a new PC then picking an energy efficient system and leaving all the power saving features enabled is a good idea. Just don't kid yourself that buying a new PC is good for the environment. As you said, my 'opinion', with a little fact added in ;) I'm afraid I can't find the UN study for the above, apologies as I've run out of time. Unfortunately without the supporting facts it makes this a fallacious argument as well :/ Cheers Jason. <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Exchange Alternative
Guys, thanks for all the feedback. I now have 8 options. Just checking if anyone has any recommendations (either positive or negative); being based in a country town (Kiama) I'm not a full-time server or Linux tech. 1. zimbra 2. sogo 3. zarafa 4. axigen 5. zentyal 6. open-xchange 7. kolab 8. scalix Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux Exchange Alternative
G'day all. Some time ago I had a look at a Linux alternative to M$ Exchange - I seem to recall that it had been started by HP, then handed over to someone else. It was commercial software (paid) but a realistic alternative to Exchange. I have a client with 6 PCs using Outlook, who now needs an Exchange SErver, and is willing to look at a Linux alternative, but I now can't find the software i remember. There seem to be several others, so I wonder: what does everybody think is the best option (especially in terms of ease of installation and configuration). The main goal is Outlook-based shared calendaring. -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Installing Richcomm PowerManager on Ubuntu-type system
G'day, Has anyone had success installing Richcomm PowerManager USB UPS monitoring software? (It's the software that came with my UPS). The install script assumes a RedHat-type file structure and displays errors on not finding /etc/rc.d/rc.local in my Linux-Mint system; after exiting the subsequent configuration script, it then shows "Init Usb Failed!". This despite the fact that lsusb shows the UPS up as "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0925:1234 Lakeview Research", and disconnecting/reconnecting the UPS USB cable shows up in dmesg as: [ 7764.788092] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, device number 3 [ 7779.004071] usb 2-3: new low-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd [ 7779.233251] generic-usb 0003:0925:1234.0004: hiddev0,hidraw2: USB HID v1.00 Device [\xffd0\xff89\xff89 UPS USB MON V1.4] on usb-:00:02.0-3/input0 [ 7780.006016] usb 2-3: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbhid while 'richcomm_usb' sets config #1 which all looks OK to my (admittedly untrained) eye. I'm running LMDE 13 x64 KDE. I have tried installing NUT, but it's somewhat beyond me, I'm afraid. Help would be appreciated. Thanks, Edwin Humphries -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DIY Linux Supercomputer
Nice! On 01/02/13 15:09, David Lyon wrote: If you ever need your own supercomputer at home, now there's a chance to build your own: - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Raspberry-Pi-Supercomputer-Legos-Linux,17596.html NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers><http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)
Jake, THanks for the correction - it's good to learn. Enabling ErP features has killed WOL on any system I've seen, but that's clearly not every system available. NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers><http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 22/10/2012 5:11 PM, Jake Anderson wrote: Small correction, it doesn't *always* disable the "wake on" stuff. I have one with those bits that will wake on lan and wake on timer, pulls 1.2W from the wall when its "off" but i dont know how accurate my measuring widget is. On 22/10/12 14:50, Edwin Humphries wrote: Oops, sorry; I'll correct that! NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers><http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 22/10/2012 2:29 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Thanks! Did you mean to send this just to me? I think others on the list would be interested... Marghanita Edwin Humphries wrote: That is true of almost all computers; desktops tend to draw around 15W when "off". That's because various components on the motherboard are kept alive (frequently, for example, the LAN port - some even have the LAN LED on when "off") and the start-up circuits have to be energise to allow the momentary-action push-button to turn the PC on. That's what the EU directive ErP/EuP is about: reducing what is the hardware (not software) standby power consumption. In ErP/EuP 1, it was specified as 1W, in ErP/EuP 2, 0.5W. But in order to achieve this, both the motherboard (and any expansion cards, presumably) and the power supply must be ErP/EuP compliant, and ErP/EuP features must be enabled in BIOS. This will disable features such as WOL or wake on alarm. NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney
Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)
Oops, sorry; I'll correct that! NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers><http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 22/10/2012 2:29 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Thanks! Did you mean to send this just to me? I think others on the list would be interested... Marghanita Edwin Humphries wrote: That is true of almost all computers; desktops tend to draw around 15W when "off". That's because various components on the motherboard are kept alive (frequently, for example, the LAN port - some even have the LAN LED on when "off") and the start-up circuits have to be energise to allow the momentary-action push-button to turn the PC on. That's what the EU directive ErP/EuP is about: reducing what is the hardware (not software) standby power consumption. In ErP/EuP 1, it was specified as 1W, in ErP/EuP 2, 0.5W. But in order to achieve this, both the motherboard (and any expansion cards, presumably) and the power supply must be ErP/EuP compliant, and ErP/EuP features must be enabled in BIOS. This will disable features such as WOL or wake on alarm. NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./"     Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./"     Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./"     Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./"     Ray Bradbury On 22/10/2012 9:36 AM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Jake Anderson wrote: I don't know who is saying desktop pc's are pulling 12W but I haven't seen a system that will pull that from the wall outside a laptop. On 18/10/12 20:51, Jeremy Visser wrote: On 18/10/12 10:58, David Lyon wrote: In the last few days, I've been reading studies showing that average power consumption of a PC is about 12W. Which is not incredibly high. Makes me wonder how much I’m killing the planet with the 700W power supply in my PC. Ane
[SLUG] Inverting network interfaces
G'day, I have a rather weird problem. We've installed a router device at one of our customers; it is a Via motherboard and has therefore a Via Rhine network interface on the motherboard (eth0) and a Realtek 8139 network interface on a PCI card. For some reason, the drivers for the two network interfaces seem to spontaneously invert, with the Realtek driver applying itself to the Via port (and usually working OK!) and the Rhine driver to the Realtek port (and sometimes not working - but sometimes working as well). This does not follow any outside action, although the customer has learned that rebooting the system (cleanly) solves any non-working interface issue. Can anyone shed any light on this? NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries> Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Find us on Facebook Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> Like us on LinkedIn LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] List servers
G'day all I'm email list administrator for several community groups (for my sins) and until about six months ago, they were all hosted on google groups. Then google decided that to reduce spam, a list administrator would no longer be able to simply add names to the list, even when those people had formally agreed to be added; instead it would send out invitations (as it turned out, sometimes) to which the new member must respond in order to be added. So now some of the groups have disappeared as they couldn't be maintained; some others are hosted by freelists.org because, as environmental groups, they meet the "technical" requirements of freelists.org. But all the other free list management servers I have found provide only a crippled service, with, presumably, the aim to encourage groups to take on the paid service. Does anyone know of a decent free list server that * Allows admins to fully administer the group * Provides a free service to community organisations NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Q&D HTML server address
G'day all, I'm not a programmer (I'm barely a Linux user) but I have a web server that I need to make a quick and dirty change to. It's a web-server to manage Internet Access for selected itinerant users, and this part of it works fine. However, I'd like to provide a link from the web interface to webmin running on the same server. Of course, webmin uses HTTPS, not HTTP, and port 1000, and I could just hard code the IP address into the HTML, but the IP address of the network interface being used for this purpose (eth0) is going to change from location to location, and I'd rather not have to make ad hoc changes to the code on installation.. Is there a simple was that I can do this? (Apache runs custom code written in PHP, but not by me) Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: : [SLUG] Re: Raspberry Pi
Martin, I'd agree with you in general; however, I'm an Atrix owner, and I really don't see how it can claim to be in any way functionally equivalent to a NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 5/03/2012 5:22 PM, Martin Visser wrote: Doesn't a SoC board, with a few USB ports, ethernet, video and audio out, just become a PC with the addition of a USB hub providing fanout to a keyboard, mouse and a bit more storage? Just like the mobile device manufacturers (to wit Motorola with Atrix and Asus with Transformer ) want us to think, the distinct category of "PC" is fast disappearing. Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com On 2 March 2012 07:57, Edwin Humphrieswrote: Sorry to be so ignorant, but I haven't heard of the Raspberry Pi before. The posts seems to indicate it as a mini PC; however, it seems to be just a SoC board? NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.**com.au<http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au> -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 2/03/2012 3:40 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote: On Thursday 01 March 2012 16:20:15 Geoffrey Cowling wrote: Will Microsoft be able to lock this down? In some ways this is a good question. As far I understand it M$ attempts to lock down the Arm platform in Europe will fail due to EU law. Not allowed to do what they want to do. Might be that under U.S. law they can do something ? Not sure about the latter. Whatever else happens they will certainly use their marketing power to drive out GNU/Linux from the ARM CPU in the way that they did from the Asus EeePC. Only Linux fans will know that Linux exists. In the U.K. the Pi is aimed at the educational market. Which is owned by Microsoft under direction from Whitehall. Say n'more ?...Winduhs advert... http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=jT3_UCm1A5I<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3_UCm1A5I> Best winduhs advert out there ;) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Raspberry Pi
Sorry to be so ignorant, but I haven't heard of the Raspberry Pi before. The posts seems to indicate it as a mini PC; however, it seems to be just a SoC board? NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 2/03/2012 3:40 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote: On Thursday 01 March 2012 16:20:15 Geoffrey Cowling wrote: Will Microsoft be able to lock this down? In some ways this is a good question. As far I understand it M$ attempts to lock down the Arm platform in Europe will fail due to EU law. Not allowed to do what they want to do. Might be that under U.S. law they can do something ? Not sure about the latter. Whatever else happens they will certainly use their marketing power to drive out GNU/Linux from the ARM CPU in the way that they did from the Asus EeePC. Only Linux fans will know that Linux exists. In the U.K. the Pi is aimed at the educational market. Which is owned by Microsoft under direction from Whitehall. Say n'more ?... Winduhs advert... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3_UCm1A5I Best winduhs advert out there ;) <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu touchpad issues
OK, this is weird. I did as you suggested (thanks, Peter), and the mouse-related output in the log looked reasonably similar to the touchpad output- and whilst I was comparing the two, the touchpad started to work! So I unplugged the mouse and rebooted, and after logging in, the touchpad didn't work - for about three minutes, and then it was OK again. So there's some weird delay going on. Edwin On 26/02/12 12:37, Peter Barker wrote: Hi Edwin, The starting point for diagnosing the problem is to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. This shows what happened the last time you started X. There should be lines about all devices, for example: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall" The external mouse will be in the log also, so you can see what sort of information is logged. Hopefully there will be some helpful error messages. With my install of Kubuntu 11.10 on a thinkpad everything just worked without installing any extra packages, or modifying grub parameters. Regards, Peter On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:53 AM Edwin Humphries wrote: G'day all, I'm wondering whether anyone has had success at resolving Ubuntu touchpad issues? My daughter and I both have dual-boot (Win7 64/Ubuntu 11.10 64) laptops; mine is an Acer Travelmate 5740 and hers a Fujitsu Lifebook S6410. the Acer has a Synaptic PS/2 touchpad, and the Fujitsu a "Microsoft" PS/2 touchpad. I can go into some detail on my case - her laptop's not here, but I'm hoping the fix will sort hers out as well. A USB wireless mouse plugged in to the Acer works fine; however nothing on the touchpad works. The "Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server" is installed and after installing tpconfig the Touchpad tab is present under Mouse and Touchpad settings. I installed "gpointing-device-settings", which also recognises the device and provides for its configuration. But neither actually do anything. I've added 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i8042.nopnp"' to the grub conf, and the touchpad works at the login screen, so I'm assuming it's something associated with X, but I'm very inexpert in even understanding X, let alone debugging it, so: does anyone have ideas? <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu touchpad issues
G'day all, I'm wondering whether anyone has had success at resolving Ubuntu touchpad issues? My daughter and I both have dual-boot (Win7 64/Ubuntu 11.10 64) laptops; mine is an Acer Travelmate 5740 and hers a Fujitsu Lifebook S6410. the Acer has a Synaptic PS/2 touchpad, and the Fujitsu a "Microsoft" PS/2 touchpad. I can go into some detail on my case - her laptop's not here, but I'm hoping the fix will sort hers out as well. A USB wireless mouse plugged in to the Acer works fine; however nothing on the touchpad works. The "Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server" is installed and after installing tpconfig the Touchpad tab is present under Mouse and Touchpad settings. I installed "gpointing-device-settings", which also recognises the device and provides for its configuration. But neither actually do anything. I've added 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i8042.nopnp"' to the grub conf, and the touchpad works at the login screen, so I'm assuming it's something associated with X, but I'm very inexpert in even understanding X, let alone debugging it, so: does anyone have ideas? <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Help with a weird problem, please
Hi, I know a few of you will think I'm off-topic, but I have a customer's Vista box here that won't boot. (ducking now ...) So I tried loading a Ubuntu live CD, then a Knoppix LiveCD. then plugging in a USB DVD drive and trying Ubuntu again as well as Puppy - and all had variants of the same error message, which can be summarised as being unable to mount the CD image and therefore unable to proceed. Most of the information on the web indicated that this often relates to a corrupt ISO image or one that's burned at too high a speed for the drive to read properly, but having tried three different distros (all of which I've used multiple times in other PCs) and two different drives, that seems pretty unlikely. On the assumption that RAM problems may also prevent the mounting of a drive on a live CD, I also checked the RAM, with no errors resulting. Can anyone suggest what's going on? NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks ?
I thought SLUG was a technical group aimed at exchanging thoughts on, and getting help with problems in, Linux, not a political group aimed at the protection of freedom and liberty and the American way? Regards, Edwin Humphries On 3/02/2012 2:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: The most important app to me is that Libre app. Called Freedom or something... not sure what others call it sometimes. If you so insist on a self-centered reason: there's that big brouhaha what, just December or something (can someone remember the name please)? about that key-logging binary blob in the heart of _every_ iOS _and_ android device?!! Seriously, have we already forgotten?! At least with Android/mostly-libre you can go and install your own OS, eg Cyanogen-mod etc. By all means feel free to include that binary blob... What absolutely befuddles my mind, and so saddens my heart, is that we, those who are supposedly somewhat "informed" in respect of the computing world, don't remember such abominations to all decency, to rights, to common sense, to respect and honour and integrity, barely a month after it bloody happened!@! FFS! Seems we really, actually, don't care. If it shiny, glossy, easy, nice, we in soma happy place, yeah government look after me very well, nice shiny gold cage I in with yummy swipe interface Please note my very royal use of the word "we". As RMS said so many years ago, am I prepared to sacrifice some (these days such a very firetruckin little!) convenience, shiny-new-ness, etc, to gain freedom? Am I prepared to do a little extra work, suffer a little extra frustration, to get the kind of freedom my kids would be proud of when the day comes they understand such things, and ask me about why our world is the way it is? D: Here's a present son... S: How does it work dad? D: Just download the source son, and check it out. Might take you a few days... S: What can I do with it dad? D: Whatever you are able to son, just don't stop the next guy from doing what he wants too! To echo so many before us - the only real protection of our freedom, is the love/care/seeking of freedom by the people. That's us. That's you. That's me. Live your rights. Live freedom. Live it or lose it... ...or perhaps a greater "range of apps available for the OS" is what it really comes down to, correct? Zen On 2012-02-03, Rod Butcher wrote: Thanks for all the feedback - Galaxy Nexus sounds like a contender. I think it comes down to the range of apps available for the OS, correct ? So are there important apps for IPHone and Windows Phone that Android lacks or doesn't have apps that can provide equivalent functionality ? Clunkiness doesn't bother me so long as the function is possible. Also, are there any commonly-used file formats that Android apps struggle with ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks ?
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has revealed that he prefers Google Android phones - at least for certain functions such as voice command. 'My primary phone is the iPhone,' said Wozniak. 'I love the beauty of it. But I wish it did all the things my Android does, I really do.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2087731/Apple-founder-Steve-Wozniak-says-Android-phones-offer-iPhone.html#ixzz1lGGiQF2v I think this says it all, right?:-) NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury On 2/02/2012 11:08 PM, Phil Manuel wrote: I used to use pocketcast but sharing a link was forced via pocketcast I currently use Google Reader, for the subscription to pocketcasts, and playback via Google Listen. It's shame it has to be two apps. On 2/02/12 10:08 PM, simran wrote: some adhoc feedback... i have found that podcasts dont work as well on android (especially "enhanced podcasts" - which i think are an apple propritary thing anyway, surprise surprise!!! :) i personally prefer android anyday, get the phone, root it (or not), and you have way way way more control than you can hope to on an ios. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Rod Butcherwrote: I need to have a smartphone as part of my job needs me to be be able to use and be familiar with all the new social media& communications tools. Initial research indicates that Android-based phones have the highest market share and are best value for money. And of course I like Linux. Are there any things they can't do or can't connect to/interface with, which other proprietary systems can ? Any serious comparison documents I can study ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/**mailinglists.html<http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html> <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks ?
On 6/02/2012 10:44 PM, Rod Butcher wrote: On 02/06/12 17:41, Nick Andrew wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:34:22AM +0800, James Linder wrote: SNIP While this thread drifts OT the basic issue is tremendously important for us as a group. So ... back to the important questions of whether Android or IOS runs more apps? Nick. I originally asked whether there was any important functionality that Android-based phones lacked compared to the competition, and whether they struggled with any file formats. I then added that this appeared to me to be an issue of available apps and requested confirmation or otherwise of this assumption - the inference I intended was that I assumed that any such issues would not be a function of the operating systems themselves but rather a function of what apps had been written and what they could do. Rather than actually address the questions posters responded with clumsy sarcasm, recast the questions in terms of their pet hobbyhorses and wandered off into moral philosophy. Closest we got was some facts about techniques for extending battery life, which is important and relevant, but I still don't know how Android compares in this area to the competition. Rod For a very subjective response to this, I would quote Steve Wozniak (remember him - Steve Jobs' partner?): 'My primary phone is the iPhone, I love the beauty of it. But I wish it did all the things my Android does, I really do.' My Android phone has a lot of techy aps on it, to allow me to ssh into the server or RDP into a Windoze box, run DNS & reverse lookups, traceroutes & pings, telnet, wireless network analyses, etc - all of which are invaluable for troubleshooting customer's network problems. And all of these aps are free (even if they are not OSS). I haven't checked the availability of these on the iPhone, as none of my techy friends have iPhones; however, I have heard that the Apple Ap Store has far fewer free aps than the Android market. For what it's worth. Regards, Edwin Humphries <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Slug posts marked as spam
G'day Can anyone explain why my slug posts are marked as spam? I'm beginning to take it personally. Regards, Edwin Humphries <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Suggestions please
G'day all, I have an old laptop I'm planning to use at installation sites for a knockabout test laptop. It's a Toshiba Satellite L10: Pentium M 1.6GHz, 768MB RAM, 40GB HDD, Intel Pro 2200BG WLAN. I've tried several distributions on it so far, and getting a bit frustrated: * Ubuntu, Fedora & CentOS install and run wireless (critical need) OK, but /*very*/ slowly * Lubuntu, Puppy, WattOS & Knoppix run pretty quickly, but wireless is more than a little flaky - and slow to set up if it connects at all. I'm no longer a newbie, but neither do I want to have to play with command line configuration of wireless for every access point I set up! Am I really asking too much for a light distribution that will run quickly /*and*/ have simple support for wireless? If not, can anyone suggest a suitable distro? -- NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Lightweight distribution
G'day all, I'm looking for the right distro to install. I have a couple of laptops that I don't care if they break, so I can take out to work-sites where we're doing installations in sometimes less than hospitable circumstances. 1. Because they're old laptops, I need a fairly lightweight distribution - perhaps based on xfce or Enlightenment or similar. 2. There for things like network configuration & troubleshooting, so support for media playback is of no consequence. 3. Because so many networks are wireless or hybrid with wireless, simple wireless support is essential. It seems to me from the distros I've tried, you can have condition 1 met, or condition 3. But not both - most of the lightweight distros seem to assume that one is rpepared to spend half-an-hour on each wireless network setting it up - and whilst I'm not a newbie, I don't really get off on always doing things the hard way. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- NetSense Computers logoRegards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 NetSense Computers (Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd) 79 Barney St (P. O. Box 423), Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2781 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- "/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray Bradbury <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Samba slow at opening root folder of share
We have several samba shares on our CentOS server. One, which has around 44Gb of data, is very fast to open; another, which has around 8Gb (albeit a slightly more complicated directory structure) is very slow to open. Sadly, it's the latter which is accessed more often. If a Windows app is pointing directly to a file on the slow share, it opens quite quickly; however, if you have to open the root directory, it takes around 10 seconds to read it. The puzzling thing is that both are sub-directories of the same Linux directory, both owned by root with 0777 permissions, and both have identical smb.conf entries (aside from share names and paths, obviously). Can someone give a hint as to what's happening and how to fix it? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd ACN: 094 533 641 ABN: 88 094 533 641 P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender. -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Code Management Database
We have several Linux software products, and have recently had enquiries about customised versions for specific customers. We're happy to do it, but I'm looking for a way to manage the codebase so that when we do an upgrade, we can upgrade the customised versions without overwriting the customised code. The code is delicious mix of C, PERL, PHP and bash scripts (don't ask). My understanding is that CVS is not the tool for this job, but does anybody know of a tool that is good for this? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Samba problem
If I've read your posting correctly, you have a Mepis server, and one each of XP, Kanotix and Mepis workstations. I'm guessing that you have issues with access from the Linux workstations. I'd be suggesting not using Samba for access from the Linux workstations - use NFS instead, as it bypasses the problem of "pretend-permissions" that samba uses to translate the Unix permissions into smb, and also the overhead of samba and lisa. That's how we set up our Linux workstations. Samba is only used by our Windows boxes, and Lisa only by the Linux boxes to access shares on the Windows boxes. Bill wrote: I've got a home LAN through a modem/router and ethernet switch with 4 PCs. I have recently set up one PC as a file/print server utilising Mepis SOHO Server beta ( debian based). I have set up the Server with a system hard drive, and 2 data hard drives ( /data and /media). I have set these 2 drives as Shares and made all directories/files "owned" by my user. I can access the Shares from all of the other 3 PCs, but can only see the files in the shares from one of these PCs. The 3 Workstation PC's have the same user name and password, the Server Shares being owned by the same user, but with a different password, so that I need to log-in from the workstation PCs. Non-server PCs are running XP, Kanotix and Simply Mepis ( both Debian). All PCs are using the same workgroup name and are in the same IP range etc. The problem occurs even with firewalls turned off. I'm obviously overlooking something simple, but can't figure out what it is. Suggestions please. Bill -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Switching a website to ssl
We have a web application served by apache (2.0.52-9) that we want to switch from normal http to https. I suspect this is relatively simple, but - how do I do it? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache (?) errors
We're just doing a test upgrade of a demo system (before we upgrade the production systems) from our development server of an application based largely on apache, php and postgresql. On the test system, I'm seeing a php script output an error message to the console as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# php /usr/bin/phpcharge.php4 1 1122989968 1122990529 2.886968 10.254.254.6 00:90: Content-type: text/html ¼': Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=144, thread-safety=167 module API=1114968780 PHP compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20010901 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2 Content-type: text/html Both systems are updated RH7,2 systems, with the only differences being slightly different hardware. I've checked the apache, php and postgresql rpms, and all are identical. Checking the httpd error log, I see similar error messages on startup: [Tue Aug 2 12:04:04 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down PHP Warning: U1À‰å]Éö�¼': Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=144, thread-safety=231 module API=1119638220 PHP compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20010901 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_AU" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_AU" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Can anyone tell me what's happening? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache (?) errors
We're just doing a test upgrade of a demo system (before we upgrade the production systems) from our development server of an application based largely on apache, php and postgresql. On the test system, I'm seeing a php script output an error message to the console as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# php /usr/bin/phpcharge.php4 1 1122989968 1122990529 2.886968 10.254.254.6 00:90: Content-type: text/html ¼': Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=144, thread-safety=167 module API=1114968780 PHP compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20010901 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2 Content-type: text/html Both systems are updated RH7,2 systems, with the only differences being slightly different hardware. I've checked the apache, php and postgresql rpms, and all are identical. Checking the httpd error log, I see similar error messages on startup: [Tue Aug 2 12:04:04 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down PHP Warning: U1À‰å]Éö�¼': Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=144, thread-safety=231 module API=1119638220 PHP compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20010901 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_AU" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Can anyone tell me what's happening? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration
Roger, Thanks for that; all issues now resolved Roger Barnes wrote: Well, that worked (thanks for that), but on restarting httpd, I got an error message: Starting httpd: [Wed Jul 27 10:13:37 2005] [warn] NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:0 has no VirtualHosts. You don't need that line anymore in this case. Best practices might dictate another approach (anyone?), but removing the NameVirtualHost line should be ok. - Rog -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration
Roger, Well, that worked (thanks for that), but on restarting httpd, I got an error message: Starting httpd: [Wed Jul 27 10:13:37 2005] [warn] NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:0 has no VirtualHosts. Roger Barnes wrote: Hi Edwin, Try instead, not sure if it will help, but worth a try. - R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Humphries Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2005 9:39 AM To: Peter Rundle Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration Guys, Thanks for your input. I've tried all that, and it still stubbornly loads what in the document root directory, rather than the test file in the /website directory. Does it make any difference in all this that the actual server is on an internal IP behind a port-forwarding firewall? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration
Guys, Thanks for your input. I've tried all that, and it still stubbornly loads what in the document root directory, rather than the test file in the /website directory. Does it make any difference in all this that the actual server is on an internal IP behind a port-forwarding firewall? Peter Rundle wrote: Edwin, When you are using NameVirtualHost (I.E HTTP/1.1) you need to give the site a name. something like; NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerName www.ironstome.com.au DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/ ErrorLog logs/ironstone-error_log CustomLog logs/ironstone-access_log common ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerName ww2.ironstome.com.au DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website2/ ErrorLog logs/ironstone2-error_log CustomLog logs/ironstone2-access_log common HTH P. -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration
We're just converting over from our web server being a single site server (root in /var/www/html/) to also hosting an Intranet/Extranet site. So we want to move the site over to /var/www/html/website, but although we've added a new virtual server in httpd.conf, it still goes back to the /var/www/html/ location. Can anyone offer some ideas? It's Redhat ES3. The httpd.conf file (stripped) is attached -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** ServerTokens OS ServerRoot "/etc/httpd" PidFile run/httpd.pid Timeout 300 KeepAlive Off MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 KeepAliveTimeout 15 StartServers 8 MinSpareServers5 MaxSpareServers 20 MaxClients 150 MaxRequestsPerChild 1000 StartServers 2 MaxClients 150 MinSpareThreads 25 MaxSpareThreads 75 ThreadsPerChild 25 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 Listen 0.0.0.0:80 LoadModule access_module modules/mod_access.so LoadModule auth_module modules/mod_auth.so LoadModule auth_anon_module modules/mod_auth_anon.so LoadModule auth_dbm_module modules/mod_auth_dbm.so LoadModule auth_digest_module modules/mod_auth_digest.so LoadModule include_module modules/mod_include.so LoadModule log_config_module modules/mod_log_config.so LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so LoadModule mime_magic_module modules/mod_mime_magic.so LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so LoadModule expires_module modules/mod_expires.so LoadModule deflate_module modules/mod_deflate.so LoadModule headers_module modules/mod_headers.so LoadModule usertrack_module modules/mod_usertrack.so LoadModule unique_id_module modules/mod_unique_id.so LoadModule setenvif_module modules/mod_setenvif.so LoadModule mime_module modules/mod_mime.so LoadModule dav_module modules/mod_dav.so LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so LoadModule autoindex_module modules/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule asis_module modules/mod_asis.so LoadModule info_module modules/mod_info.so LoadModule dav_fs_module modules/mod_dav_fs.so LoadModule vhost_alias_module modules/mod_vhost_alias.so LoadModule negotiation_module modules/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule dir_module modules/mod_dir.so LoadModule imap_module modules/mod_imap.so LoadModule actions_module modules/mod_actions.so LoadModule speling_module modules/mod_speling.so LoadModule userdir_module modules/mod_userdir.so LoadModule alias_module modules/mod_alias.so LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so LoadModule proxy_ftp_module modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so LoadModule proxy_connect_module modules/mod_proxy_connect.so LoadModule cache_module modules/mod_cache.so LoadModule suexec_module modules/mod_suexec.so LoadModule disk_cache_module modules/mod_disk_cache.so LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so LoadModule mem_cache_module modules/mod_mem_cache.so LoadModule cgi_module modules/mod_cgi.so User apache Group apache ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] UseCanonicalName Off DocumentRoot "/var/www/html" Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all UserDir disable DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var AccessFileName .htaccess Order allow,deny Deny from all TypesConfig /etc/mime.types DefaultType text/plain # MIMEMagicFile /usr/share/magic.mime MIMEMagicFile conf/magic HostnameLookups Off ErrorLog logs/error_log LogLevel warn LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent CustomLog logs/access_log combined ServerSignature On Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/" Options Indexes MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Alias /manual "/var/www/manual" Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all # Location of the WebDAV lock database. DAVLockDB /var/lib/dav/lockdb ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/var/www/cgi-bin/" AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Allow from all IndexOptions FancyIndexing VersionSort NameWidth=* AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif
Re: [SLUG] Samba 3 login from XP
Jill, Thanks for that: the security = server and password server = abc solution worked. Rowling, Jill wrote: Couple of things. 1. As you are not the domain controller, do you want to try security = server And password server = abc (where abc is the name of your local password server)? 2. If that doesn't help, what happens if you comment out the socket options line? I think NTLM takes a while to do it's thing, and specifying the delays may cause more problems. Regards, Jill. -Original Message----- From: Edwin Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:51 AM To: Slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Samba 3 login from XP I have a dual boot laptop (XP and FC4). I need to be able to access the data partition (FAT32) from another XP machine regardless of which OS the laptop is running. The partition mounts under FC fine, but I can't get the samba login to work properly. The laptop is visible on the Windows network, but trying to login pulls up an authentication window; entering the username and password just reopens the window. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Samba 3 login from XP
I have a dual boot laptop (XP and FC4). I need to be able to access the data partition (FAT32) from another XP machine regardless of which OS the laptop is running. The partition mounts under FC fine, but I can't get the samba login to work properly. The laptop is visible on the Windows network, but trying to login pulls up an authentication window; entering the username and password just reopens the window. An ethereal dump of the login sessions is as follows: 27.342581 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Negotiate Protocol Response 27.343272 172.31.255.20 -> 172.31.255.98 SMB Session Setup AndX Request, NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE 27.344720 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Session Setup AndX Response, NTLMSSP_CHALLENGE, Error: STATUS_MORE_PROCESSING_REQUIRED 27.345076 172.31.255.20 -> 172.31.255.98 SMB Session Setup AndX Request, NTLMSSP_AUTH 27.346574 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Session Setup AndX Response 27.346883 172.31.255.20 -> 172.31.255.98 SMB Tree Connect AndX Request, Path: \\SHALLOW-THOUGHT\IPC$ 27.347951 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Tree Connect AndX Response 27.350168 172.31.255.20 -> 172.31.255.98 SMB Session Setup AndX Request, NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE 27.351063 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Session Setup AndX Response, NTLMSSP_CHALLENGE, Error: STATUS_MORE_PROCESSING_REQUIRED 27.351529 172.31.255.20 -> 172.31.255.98 SMB Session Setup AndX Request, NTLMSSP_AUTH 27.355627 172.31.255.98 -> 172.31.255.20 SMB Session Setup AndX Response, Error: STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE the smb.conf files is as follows: [global] log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log ldap ssl = No restrict anonymous = no idmap gid = 16777216-33554431 socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=8192 SO_RCVBUF=8192 guest ok = no domain master = no map to guest = Bad User username map = /etc/samba/smbusers dns proxy = no cups options = raw max protocol = NT server string = Edwin's Laptop idmap uid = 16777216-33554431 workgroup = Ironstone server signing = Auto printcap name = /etc/printcap preferred master = no max log size = 50 [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = yes writeable = yes createmask = 0777 Can anyone help? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Dual Boot (Windows/FC)
I remember reading an excellent document some months ago on how to install FC2 onto a Windows box without trashing the boot sector so that Windows wouldn't boot. It talked about interrogating the boot sector to get some configuration infomration, then feeding that into anaconda during the FC2 install. It was quite long, but with its help, I was successful. But I've lost the document. Does anyone know it, and have a URL? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Compatibility Issues with Windows64
Just got some more details. There are apparently 2 concerns: One is that the Windows64 file system is yet another variant of NTFS (well, why not?) and may not be compatible with Linux. I think the concern here is in file transfer between systems, and I think they are talking about the samba-based windows network (a second option), so I was able to advise that the file system is transparent in file transfers from the windows workstation to the Linux server. The second is that the files are not compatible between OpenOffice and MS-Office. Which has precisely zip to do with 64 bit! I was able to clarify that as well. Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** Daron Barndon wrote: Edwin, I work with fedgov clients here in canberra and I have heard nothing about this. Do you have more information? Sounds a bit dodgy... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Humphries Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2005 2:41 PM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Compatibility Issues with Windows64 We're quoting on a Linux thin-client network in a government-funded establishment. One of the comments (third-party so I haven't been able to check background) is that Federal Government bodies are concerned that there are Linux compatibility issues with upcoming 64-bit Windows. I don't see how this is relevant, and I suspect it's a crock (another threatened Windows quasi-guru), but before I go in to bat, has anyone heard of this? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html # This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this e-mail and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this e-mail and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. # -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Cash Drawer options
We're quoting on a Linux think-client network, and one of the clients needs to be able to operate a cash-drawer and print receipts. Does anyone know of an easy answer? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Compatibility Issues with Windows64
We're quoting on a Linux thin-client network in a government-funded establishment. One of the comments (third-party so I haven't been able to check background) is that Federal Government bodies are concerned that there are Linux compatibility issues with upcoming 64-bit Windows. I don't see how this is relevant, and I suspect it's a crock (another threatened Windows quasi-guru), but before I go in to bat, has anyone heard of this? -- Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
A small customer for whom we're installing a Linux server wants to use Outlook for Group Calendaring (only) - for this some other person has advised an Exchange server. One alternative we have looked at is Scalix, but I think it's overkill for Group Calendaring only - and it's quite expensive for 5 - 10 users. They are a cleaning company that needs to coordinate staff to different types of jobs: episodic, major contract, project, and apply tasks at intervals of one or several days, weeks, and months. Personally, I would prefer to have them do calendaring another way, and I'm looking at Mozilla Calendar/Sunbird on Firefox - or even Thunderbird. But are there any other solutions that anyone knows of that will do this job well? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] PHP load error
We were having some errors in execution of a cron-initiated php script. We ran it from the console, and got some errors. We then tried running php without passing it any options or script names, and got the same error (below): --- Content-type: text/html ¼': Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=144, thread-safety=167 module API=1114968780 PHP compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20010901 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 --- We tried re-installing php, but no change. Can anyone shed any light on this? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Software Installation
Can't help you on the xine front, but I'm not anticipating you're going to have much joy with the printer: Lexmark inkjets tend to have fairly poor Linux support, and my experience with MFCs is that you're licky to be able to get printer drivers, but scanner drivers are very unlikely. On 2 Apr 2005 at 22:05, test wrote: > Hi All, > Linux is totally new for me and I am having trouble installing Xine. > I am using Fedora Linux Core 3 and have set up email and web browser so > far so good. > I have been trying to use the Terminal to change directories to the Xine > software location and, I'm afraid, can't get anything other than a "file > does not exist" message. > Printer setup will be next I have a Lexmark X1150. > Any help appreciated. > Regards > Scott > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SMS Gateway
Shaun, Checked them out - they make it very easy to deal with them, and the gy I spoke to understood why I wouldn't want a .NET solution! I'm impressed! Thanks. On 1 Apr 2005 at 16:44, Shaun Butler wrote: > Edwin > > [a] Provider - A provider that I have seen used is MessageNet > (http://www.messagenet.com.au/). Look specifically at their MessageNet > product offering. > [b] Linux-Based Solution - Messagenet provides a number of ways for a > Linux host to connect to their service e.g. perl script, c program. With > the specific implementation I have seen, output from a > program/process/whatever you want gets piped to the Messagenet-supplied > perl script, which in turn initiates a TCP/IP connection to the > Messagenet SMS gateway and transmits the content of the message. The SMS > gateway in turn generates the SMS > > SAJB > > > Edwin Humphries wrote: > > We're looking for a way to provide users on an apache/php-based Intranet > > service with the ability to send an SMS message from a web browser. > > > > Does anyone know of a Linux solution? We're running RH7.2. > > > > I presume there would need to be some kind of compatible account with a > > telco? > > > > Regards, > > Edwin Humphries > > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > > P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 > > Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 > > Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 > > Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au > > > > *** > > This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and > > may contain confidential or privileged information. If you > > are not a named addressee please delete the message and > > notify the sender. > > *** > > Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SMS Gateway
We're looking for a way to provide users on an apache/php-based Intranet service with the ability to send an SMS message from a web browser. Does anyone know of a Linux solution? We're running RH7.2. I presume there would need to be some kind of compatible account with a telco? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache redirects
G'day all, I'm trying to redirect a domain (e-quality.com.au) to a sub-directory of another domain (ironstone.com.au/equality/). This is to prevent pages that have nothing to do with our eQuality product from appearing under the e-quality domain. I've added the line "Redirect 301 http://www.e-quality.com.au http://www.ironstone.com.au/equality/"; to the httpd.conf file, but it redirects to the root of the ironstone domain - not quite what I'm after. Any suggestions? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IPCOP Firewall
Ben, My apologies: I did see the front page, and the auth window came up when I tried to do something. I have just (again) reset the password through the setup utility, this time I set it to something that wasn't also the root password. It works. Maybe that's a "feature" if IPCOP. On 28 Mar 2005 at 22:01, Ben Stanley wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using IPCop for years. I must admit I've never had the > problem that you describe, but I'll try to help you work through it. > > I just checked my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files, and root is the > only account with a username. However, I also have an admin account and > password. This is administered through the setup program, and the > details are stored in /var/ipcop/auth/users . These users are apache > users rather than unix users. > > When you connect to ipcop, using http://ipcop:81/ , it should just show > you the front page. There should be no need to authenticate, unless you > try to 'connect' or use some other function through the menus. In that > case, you should login with the username 'admin' or 'dial', with the > appropriate password. I don't believe the root password will help you > here. > > Try again and please tell us exactly when it asks for authentication. > Your message seems to indicate 'immediately, without showing the home > page'. > > What version of IPCop did you install? > > You might also consider bugging the IPCop mailing lists... > > Ben. > > > On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 09:03, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > G'day all, > > > > We're just setting up an IPCOP box to handle all our firewalling and > > routing, but I have a problem. I've RTFM'd and no help there. > > > > After installation, I checked out the web interface with no problems. > > Then interruptions for over a week before I came back to it; now I > > can't access it. Pulled up the interface on a browser (Firefox) and > > when I try to do anything up comes a auth window, asking for the name and > > password for "Restricted". Entering "root" and the root password doesn't > > work, > > although the shadow password file shows root is the only user. I tried > > creating > > user "admin" and set it's password - still no good. Tried setting the > > "admin" > > password using the setup utility - no good. Tred entering "Restricted" as > > the > > username - no good. > > > > Can anyone help? > > > > Regards, > > Edwin Humphries > > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > > P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 > > Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 > > Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 > > Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au > > > > *** > > This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and > > may contain confidential or privileged information. If you > > are not a named addressee please delete the message and > > notify the sender. > > *** Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] IPCOP Firewall
G'day all, We're just setting up an IPCOP box to handle all our firewalling and routing, but I have a problem. I've RTFM'd and no help there. After installation, I checked out the web interface with no problems. Then interruptions for over a week before I came back to it; now I can't access it. Pulled up the interface on a browser (Firefox) and when I try to do anything up comes a auth window, asking for the name and password for "Restricted". Entering "root" and the root password doesn't work, although the shadow password file shows root is the only user. I tried creating user "admin" and set it's password - still no good. Tried setting the "admin" password using the setup utility - no good. Tred entering "Restricted" as the username - no good. Can anyone help? Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http//www.ironstone.com.au *** This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete the message and notify the sender. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP recomendation
I have to agree with that. Very good indeed - and they resell the RequestDSL Business-grade DSL product as well. On 23 Mar 2005 at 15:08, Michael Fox wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:38:07 +1100, Julio Cesar Ody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > the company where I work now, for reasons beyond mention, is willing > > to change it's network provider. Since we work mostly with video > > conference software, we do need a reliable low-latency and high > > bandwidth connection. > > Which ISPs based in Sydney would you guys recommend for that? We're > > interested in a "technical friendly" provider whose techies know what > > they're doing, preferrably constituted by geeks. > > Cheers. Thanks in advance. > > The best technical support I've ever obtained from an ISP to date > would have to be WestNet. Those guys/gals go out of the way to make > the customer feel warm and fuzzy. When I had problems recently due to > exchange congestion, they followed it up regularly by voice calls to > confirm I was ok after major upgrade. > > I can't express how impressed I have been with them. Totally enjoyable > to deal with. Not sure if they will suit you, but they have the best > customer service ever. - period - > > Thanks > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders
David, If you're using Outlook or OE, then try another client. In setting up our Dovecot IMAP system, we early on dispensed with MS clients (we run XP and 2K) - I suspect their implementation of IMAP is purely suited for MS servers. I have used Pegasus and Eudora with varying success, and Thunderbird with somewhat less success - but it still works. The problems are: Pegasus (my current client): 1. Doesn't support new mail folder filtering on the IMAP new mail folder; however they can be set up as a general rule set applied to the folder whenever the folder is opened. 2. Doesn't automatically update the new mail folder with new mail if in preview mode. Works OK outside preview mode. 3. Doesn't support (at least with Dovecot) creation of folders in which you can place folders. Folders are created with -rw--- permissions, instead of drwx--. Eudora: 1. Not especially stable 2. Doesn't support asking where to save sent mail (this is a unique Pegasus feature, i think - and saves much time) Thunderbird: 1. Very poor folder support 2. No way to update folder list if you use another method of creating them. Pity there's no REALLY good IMAP mail client. Hope this helps. On 23 Mar 2005 at 10:42, David Fisher wrote: > > > > I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on > > Debian sarge. You may have a problem here, because the last time I > looked > > (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders. > > > > Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could > > prove me wrong. > > > > Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests > dovecot series. > > http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders > > J. > > Thanks, Jan. I just hope it makes its way into the stable release before > the guys i'm doing it for discover the concept. > > On a more immediate note, I am have huge problems getting a Windows XP > box to authenticate to a dovecot server I have set up. I get 10061 errors > no matter what authentication method I try to use. Linux clients and > Windows 98 works fine (using SSL/TLS). Even got a Windows 2000 box > talking to it. Is there some gotcha in XP I'm (not being a Windows > person) not aware of? > > Cluesticks, anyone? > > > David x22707 > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders
Jan, Thanks for this. Looks like 1.0 will solve our issues. Waiting ... On 23 Mar 2005 at 10:26, Jan Schmidt wrote: > > > > I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on > > Debian sarge. You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked > > (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders. > > > > Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could > > prove me wrong. > > > > Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests > dovecot series. > > http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders > > J. > -- > Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The woman you buy -- and she is the least expensive -- takes a great deal of > money. The woman who gives herself takes all your time. - Balzac > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders
We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But now we need to evolve to sharing some folders. We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some folders as private. How do we do this? Regards, Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Repartitioning Dell Dimension 8300
G'day all, I've just inherited a Dell Dimension 8300. It has a single 120Gb SATA drive, and I'd like to repartition with a view to dual-booting. It's got an OEM partition on the first 31 Mb of the drive. When I try to boot with the System Rescue CD (to use NTFSresize), I get an error message "hda: host proected area => 1" and the boot hangs. I'm assuming that this refers to the OEM partition - is this right? How do I get the bootloader to ignore this partition? Regards, Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Accounting/Bookkeeping
G'day all, Is anyone aware of a Linux-based bookkeeping or accouynting package - one that can conform to Australian accounting and tax rules? We're contemplating an upgrade to our Quickbooks Pro ($599 - $1,494), or cross-grade to MYOB ($596 - $1,494), but we're a Linux company, so a Linux solution would be better (and our bookkeeper is reasonably IT literate as well!). Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora/XP Dual Boot
I had a dual boot XP/FC2 system, but had to reinstall XP, and it trashed grub (thanks, Bill). How do I reinstall grub so that I can boot into Fedora again? Best Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Latest Oxymoron
Microsoft Works (Heard on Canberra ABC) Best Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Water damaged computers
The report is for insurance purposes, and will serve to substantiate any future claims - most of the computers seem to have survived in at least a temporarily working state. At 01:01 PM 21/12/2004, Michael Fox wrote: A report that highlights if the units should be replaced/repaired? Based on your observations? On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:00:06 +1100, Menno Schaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > look for any damaged parts on the circuit boards (bulging caps, > blackened marks etc) Check the HDD's for anything that may point to > them failing, and then replace them all anyway, i can't think of any > hdd's that would survive getting flooded (at least not for very long) > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:55:45 +1100, Edwin Humphries > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been asked to put together a report on several computers at a client's > > premises that got spashed with water in the recent storms. Apart from the > > obvious (corrosion, staining, puddles!) and the problem of wettened dust, > > can anyone offer any suggestions about what to look for? > > Edwin Hunphries > > > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > > > -- > Menno Schaaf aka ginji > irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help > irc.ifirc.net #linux > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OT: Water damaged computers
I've been asked to put together a report on several computers at a client's premises that got spashed with water in the recent storms. Apart from the obvious (corrosion, staining, puddles!) and the problem of wettened dust, can anyone offer any suggestions about what to look for? Edwin Hunphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Mini-ITX Rackmount cases
Matt, There was a particular one that I was talking to a month ago - before our server crash lost all the email files! I seem to remember it as valign or vadept or soimething similar - and they specifically had a 1u dual motherboard rackmount case. But I'll check out the ones you mentioned. At 11:43 am 21/12/2004, matthew palmer wrote: on tue, dec 21, 2004 at 11:33:41am +1100, edwin humphries wrote: > there's a company in sydney that sells mini-itx rackmount cases, inlcuding > a dual motherboard case. Does anyone know of this company? There's probably dozens. Do you want the name of one, or are you after experiences dealing with one in particular but don't want to mention them on-list? Www.elx.com.au is one company that deals in that sort of gear, and are (imo) worth supporting. Not sure if their 1u boxes would support dual-mb though (damn that'd be a tight fit). I've seen decent deals and heard good things about www.aproimage.com.au, but I haven't done business with them personally. Their range and prices aren't bad, though. - matt -- "ah, the beauty of oss. Hundreds of volunteers worldwide volunteering their time inventing and implementing new, exciting ways for software to suck." -- toni lassila, in the monastery -- slug - sydney linux user's group mailing list - http://slug.org.au/ subscription info and faqs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mini-ITX Rackmount cases
There's a company in Sydney that sells mini-ITX rackmount cases, inlcuding a dual motherboard case. Does anyone know of this company? Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] reinstallting XP on a dual boot system
OK. no worries, worked it out - delete the old partition first! At 05:04 PM 17/12/2004, Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to reinstall XP on a dual boot XP/FC2 desktop. Grub is the bootloader, installed in the MBR. When I reboot after the DOS part of the XP install, I'm taken to the old XP prompt, not the setup program. What to I need to do to make grub load the windows setup program? Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] reinstallting XP on a dual boot system
I'm trying to reinstall XP on a dual boot XP/FC2 desktop. Grub is the bootloader, installed in the MBR. When I reboot after the DOS part of the XP install, I'm taken to the old XP prompt, not the setup program. What to I need to do to make grub load the windows setup program? Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] BIND Settings
I seem to remember there's a line somewhere in BIND's configuration that tells it to refer any queriers for uncached domains to a specific upstream DNS server, rather than doing a top-down resolution exercise. I can't find it. Can anyone remind me where it is? Best Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] BIND DNS settings
Just changing our DNS settings after churning to a new provider. I remember there is a setting for BIND that tells it to refer DNS requests for addresses it does not have cached to a specific name-server, rather than doing a top-down DNS resolution. Now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is? Best Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Evolution IMAP folders
Thanks, Peter. I'd thought of that. But as I don't always have access to the server (eg, whilst travelling), I was hoping for something a little more elegant :-) On 27 Oct 2004 at 9:59, Peter Howard wrote: > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 09:49, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > G'day, > > > > Does anyone know hoe to create nested IMAP folders using Evolution? > > It seems that handling of IMAP folders under most email clients > > (Linux AND Windows) is quirky at best. > > Don't know if this will help, but . . . > > The following manual procedure has worked for me, on an FC2 box using > dovecot as the imap server. > > On the server, in ${HOME}/imap/{Account}/folders you create the > directory which will be the "nesting" folder you want. You can then > create mail folders within that from evolution. > > -- > Peter Howard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jabber Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AIM Id: pjhacnau > > Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Evolution IMAP folders
G'day, Does anyone know hoe to create nested IMAP folders using Evolution? It seems that handling of IMAP folders under most email clients (Linux AND Windows) is quirky at best. Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Transmeta crusoe motherboards
Does anyone know who in Australia sells Transmeta crusoe-based motherboards? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Starting swat spawns multiple instances
Jill, Thanks for the response - I was wondering about xinetd but hadn't had the time to check. I did now, and there is no swat script there. However, there is an init script for it, which implies the system is designed to use that. On 30 Sep 2004 at 11:27, Rowling, Jill wrote: > Normally swat runs through inetd so if you start it manually like that you > will probably have multiple copies running, with some copies served by inetd > and others from the startup. > I think the installation notes say something about choosing one method or > the other, but not both. > Try not starting it from either of your methods, and just see if it responds > anyway. > > Cheers, > > Jill. > > -Original Message- > From: Edwin Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SLUG] Starting swat spawns multiple instances > > > I'm trying to start swat on a new RH ES 3 install. When I start it > (either as "service swat start or " or as "/etc/init.d/swat start") > it spawns several copies of swat and many copies of service, swamps > RAM and then goes into swap file chaos and locks the machine. > > Has anyone seen this, or know a fix to it? > > Regards, > Edwin Humphries, Managing Director > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 > Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 > Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 > Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- > IMPORTANT NOTICES > This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this > email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject > of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its > affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named > addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in > favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because > this email was sent to you by mistake. > > If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, > distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of > Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the > mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete > it from your system and destroy all copies. > > Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in > accordance with applicable privacy laws. > > Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by > viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be > successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the > integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, > software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). > Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. > > If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic > communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for > clarification. > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Starting swat spawns multiple instances
I'm trying to start swat on a new RH ES 3 install. When I start it (either as "service swat start or " or as "/etc/init.d/swat start") it spawns several copies of swat and many copies of service, swamps RAM and then goes into swap file chaos and locks the machine. Has anyone seen this, or know a fix to it? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bloody Fedora Installation! (again)
James, Yes, it's failing part-way through the install - always on the first CD, but never in the same place. With respect to the CD and drive; this is the first FC2 install I've done, so it's not the same disks as previously, and this is a new laptop, so it's not the same drive. I'm going on my previous experience of FC1, where it really didn't matter what media and which of several drives I used: sometimes the installation went very smoothly, and sometimes not at all. But we were always able to eventually get it to work with some combination of anaconda parameters. On 20 Sep 2004 at 11:19, James Gregory wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:02 +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > You're right about the sources of the CDs, but I know in every > > previous case with Fedora that the system has installed OK form the > > "suspect" CDs using the "suspect" drive. It's just that the install > > command line seems to require tweaking to make it happen. > > So the installer is failing part way through? Is it always the same > place? Do your CDs pass the media check? Was it the same "suspect" "CDs" > and "suspect" "drive" that it worked OK on with some boot-cmd tweaking? > > James. > > -- > James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bloody Fedora Installation! (again)
You're right about the sources of the CDs, but I know in every previous case with Fedora that the system has installed OK form the "suspect" CDs using the "suspect" drive. It's just that the install command line seems to require tweaking to make it happen. On 20 Sep 2004 at 10:56, James Gregory wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 10:49 +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > I've done several installs of Fedora C1, and had a variety of > > experiences: some went very smoothly, and some had great problems. > > > > Now I've tried a C2 installation (on a dual-boot laptop on which > > Lycoris installed very smoothly), and all went badly - the dreaded > > couldn't read from media error. > > Did you use the 'check media' option before you did the installation? Is > it possible that your lycoris CDs were stamped by professionals and that > you burnt the fedora CDs? > > > I tried GUI and text installs, and > > installs with mem=64M, nodma and noprobe settings, all with the same > > result. > > > > Does anyone have any additional clues? > > > > When is redhat going to fix anaconda so this doesn't happen? > > I've found anaconda to be far and away the best linux installer out > there. I would be more suspicious of either the drive or your CDs if > anaconda isn't working. > > HTH, > > James. > > -- > James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bloody Fedora Installation! (again)
I've done several installs of Fedora C1, and had a variety of experiences: some went very smoothly, and some had great problems. Now I've tried a C2 installation (on a dual-boot laptop on which Lycoris installed very smoothly), and all went badly - the dreaded couldn't read from media error. I tried GUI and text installs, and installs with mem=64M, nodma and noprobe settings, all with the same result. Does anyone have any additional clues? When is redhat going to fix anaconda so this doesn't happen? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Andrew, I now know two things about OpenOffice: it can do databases quite neatly, and it can't do databases with bitmaps as fields. At 08:25 AM 15/09/2004, you wrote: I know you can do flatfile databases within Open Office not to sure about adding images though Heres a website explaining it on Open Office http://homepage.ntlworld.com/garryknight/linux/oodbase.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux Databases
I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IMAP (UW imapd)
David Kempe wrote: Edwin Humphries wrote: But seting up the IMAP folders requires a setting: IMAP Server Directory. Now I know where the server binary is - that's easy. But is it talking about mailbox location (/var/spool/mail) or where the IMAP folders usualy go (/home/username)? it shouldn't require that setting for it to work. you can try INBOX in capitals dave David,, I tried the previous response: /home/username. I'll try your idea in a moment. I'm having other problems now: I can see the folder, so i created a file in it (owned by me, permissions 777) but I can't do anything with it. I want to copy my local folder over to it so that i can see the mail from anywhere. Hmmm... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] IMAP (UW imapd)
I've been trying to switch our office server to IMAP for q while, and having initially problems with email clients. I've tried Outlook and Outlook Express (yeah, I know, boo hiss), Eudora, Pegasus and now Thunderbird, which seems the best of the bunch (as long as we're stuck in Windows; can't use Evolution). But seting up the IMAP folders requires a setting: IMAP Server Directory. Now I know where the server binary is - that's easy. But is it talking about mailbox location (/var/spool/mail) or where the IMAP folders usualy go (/home/username)? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [OT] Cat 5E Cabling
We're quoting a building that has Cat5E phone cabling and no data cabling. Does anyone have experience with splitting the Cat5E to carry both voice and data? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd Phone: +61 2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 2 4233 2299 http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ESP Ghostscript
I'm trying to make an Epson SC 1160 work under samba, using the gimp driver. It prints nicely from KDE, but not from XP. The only error message I get is in /var/log/cups/error_log, which reads: Adding start banner page "none" to job 5326. Adding end banner page "none" to job 5326. Job 5326 queued on 'epson' by 'edwin'. Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 5326! Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed? Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to "debug". How do I tell if the Ghostscript that's installed (under Fedora: 7.07-15.2) is ESP Ghostscript? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd Phone: +61 2 4233 2285 Fax: +61 2 4233 2299 http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Asiasat 2-way Satellite
We have a redhat-based billing router, and a customer in a remote part of NT looking to connect through it using Telstra's Asiasat 2- way satellite internet service. Which only has Windows drivers. Not sure I like the idea of a Windows router protecting a Linux router! Has anyone heard of an all-Linux solution? Or, for that matter, any other stable and secure solution? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Help with Samba on Webmin
Matthew We do this, but we set up the directories for the customers in advance from the console. They can create sub-directories from their Windows clients if your have create mask and directory mask set to 0777, and the sub- directories will be world readable. If when they create users from Webmin, you have it set to also create the /home directory, and share those through samba, each person can also have private information on the server. Works great for us (unless I've completely missed your point!) On 29 Jun 2004 at 11:28, Matthew Tse wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having a hard time using Webmin to administer a box running Samba. > The idea is for the client to use Webmin to fully administer the > fileserver; from creating users to setting up share permissions, etc. > > The problem I'm currently having is, using Webmin to create a share > for Samba ends up with owner and group of the share directory set to > root. This makes writing to the share in Windows not possible. I've > gone through a lot of documentation on the web and haven't found > anything which points out what I could be doing wrong. > > Of course I'm open to other suggestions on what else could be used > instead. I tried using SWAT but it doesn't create the actual > directories when you create the shares for Samba so this requires a > few extra steps which could make it complicated for the Windows user. > > Ideally I'd like the client to avoid touching the Linux machine as > much as possible. Making it easier than doing it on Windows is > preferable. > > Thanks in advance, > > Matthew. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue
Thanks for all the suggestions. I've learned something. But I used James Gray's early suggestion: rename the mqueue directory, create another with the same ownership and permissions, and restart sendmail. Everything seems to be working OK. May not have been quite as cool a solution as some of the others, but if it's working ... On 29 Jun 2004 at 15:09, Ben Lisle wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > Of Edwin Humphries > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:16 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue > > > > WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of > > some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double > > bounce, virus laden stuff. > > Ouch :-) > > > Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine > > down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no > > avail. But i tried to delete the queue with "rm *" in > > /var/spool/mqueue, but got "Argument list too long". > > > > Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re- > > create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it? > > Try this... > > Locate the offending spammer IP addresses then run... > > find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |sed s/qf/df/g |xargs rm > find . -name 'qf*' -type f |xargs grep -l $ip |xargs rm > > That should clean your queue while leaving those legitimate messages > that are just waiting for delivery. > > > Edwin Humphries, > > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.ironstone.com.au > > Phone: 02 4233 2285 > > Fax: 02 4233 2299 > > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > --- > Ben Lisle > Pacific Internet | Engineer, IT Operations > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Flooded mail queue
WE have a sendmail installation that is trying to process a queue of some 1.8 million emails - mostly, as far as I can tell, double bounce, virus laden stuff. Of course, sendmail is going into overload, and slowing the machine down enormously, and given that the emails are double-bounce, to no avail. But i tried to delete the queue with "rm *" in /var/spool/mqueue, but got "Argument list too long". Can I just delete the mqueue directory? If so, will sendmail re- create it on the fly, or do I need to manually re-create it? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond ADSL MASQ web broken
We've done that. The log showed problems in negotiating a https session - which the DSl guy said was a frequent outcome of packet fragmentation. The ping showed that 1464 bytes was the critical point. But it also showed that same level on the router that works fine. What we really need to know is how to set the MTU value for the ppp0 interface. With that, we can try different levels and find the largest one that works. On 15 Jun 2004 at 17:21, Alexander Samad wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:19:21PM +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > G'day, > > > > We're setting up a RH7.2 router on a Bigpond ADSL connection, using > > rp-pppoe. We're experiencing a problem that some sites (eg, Google, > > Bigpond) load fine on the network clients, but others (eg, Telstra, > > Pacific.net.au) only load on the router itself (lynx) or on network > > clients that are set to use the router's proxy. Ping and ssh work > > fine from the clients. > > > > We've been able to reproduce the problem on our own in-house > > (Fedora) router, by changing the CLAMPMSSsetting from "1412" to > > "no". However, the CLAMPMSS setting on the new router is already set > > to "1412". > > > > The Telstra DSL guru (yes folks, there is one, and he speaks Linux!) > > has suggested changing the MTU size in the pppoe client. > > > > Where do we go from here? The ifcfg-ppp0 file on the new router has > > a MTU="" line: do we set this to 1412, or do we progressively reduce > > the CLAMPMSS setting until it works? > > Might be helpful to take a dump of the traffic on the router. Maybe > the next thing to to try the ping test with do not Fragment and set > the size to 1412 and then decrease > > A > > > > > Edwin Humphries, > > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.ironstone.com.au > > Phone: 02 4233 2285 > > Fax: 02 4233 2299 > > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bigpond ADSL MASQ web broken
G'day, We're setting up a RH7.2 router on a Bigpond ADSL connection, using rp-pppoe. We're experiencing a problem that some sites (eg, Google, Bigpond) load fine on the network clients, but others (eg, Telstra, Pacific.net.au) only load on the router itself (lynx) or on network clients that are set to use the router's proxy. Ping and ssh work fine from the clients. We've been able to reproduce the problem on our own in-house (Fedora) router, by changing the CLAMPMSS setting from "1412" to "no". However, the CLAMPMSS setting on the new router is already set to "1412". The Telstra DSL guru (yes folks, there is one, and he speaks Linux!) has suggested changing the MTU size in the pppoe client. Where do we go from here? The ifcfg-ppp0 file on the new router has a MTU="" line: do we set this to 1412, or do we progressively reduce the CLAMPMSS setting until it works? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Comparing partition contents
I want to essentially copy the files on one RH7.2 machine onto another one, but without overwriting the basic OS files (eg, drivers, program versions, etc). We have a poorly documented application that we need to copy (and flesh out the documentation whilst we're at it). Most of it's done, but I want to check by creating a list comparing the contents of one partition (which has been totally copied into a directory on the new machine called /transfer) with the root filesystem. I tried "rsync -rn /transfer / >sync_files.txt", but the file has a very large list of lines saying "skipping non-regular file transfer/[filename]". The files I knew to be different aren't listed at all. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong - or a better way to achieve the same result? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Realtek Support
We're installing Redhat 7.2 (to preempt the "why?", our application requires it) on a new box, with on-board LAN based on the Realtek 810x chipset. The Realtek site says their driver for this is the same as for the 8139 chipset (which is supported in Redhat 7.2). What I'd like to know is how to confirm that the redhat kernel driver for the 8139 will also work for the 810x. Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
Problem has almost gone ()linux rescue to the rescue) - all I'm now experiencing is that the filesystem labels don't quite match what is being looked for. On 10 May 2004 at 11:37, Edwin Humphries wrote: > I have just stuffed up my triple boot system: Fedora/WinXP/RH7.2 > > BACKGROUND: Taking a HDD with an existing RH7.2 installation, and > putting it into a functioning Fedora/XP dual boot system so that it > can be booted (don't ask why - there are good reasons). > > ACTION: Booted into fedora, added the RH7.2 boot partition into > /etc/fstab, mounted the rh /boot partition, changed its label, copied > the lines from its grub.conf file into the fedora grub.conf file with > relevant changes (eg, changing it from hd0,1 to hd1,1) (after backing > up grub.conf, or course). > > PROBLEM 1: The new option shows up on the boot screen; however, when I > choose it, I get the following error: > root(hd1,1) > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 > Kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb3 > Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition > > PROBLEM 2: Worse, when I select to boot into Fedora, I get the > following errors: > Unable to open /etc/fstab for writing: Read only file system. > (then other "Read only file system" errors when the system tries to > touch a file, until the boot hangs). > > Can't figure out how to fix it when I get into the grub command- line, > either. > > Fortunately I can still boot into Windows (or I wouldn't be sending > this email!) :-/ > > Edwin Humphries, > Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.ironstone.com.au > Phone: 02 4233 2285 > Fax: 02 4233 2299 > Mobile: 0419 233 051 > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
I've accessed the boot filesystem (mounting it from a Lindows CD demo) and fixed that - it's now OK. I tried to mount the root filesystem in the same way (mounting it as a CDROM, as no other options were available in the mnt directory) and got an error: "/dev/hda3 is already mounted or /mnt/cdrom is busy". Neither was true. Booting into Fedora shows that the fstab file is bad, and I'm assuming that I have to fix that to correct the problem. The only issue is how I access it when i can't boot or mount the partition! On 10 May 2004 at 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Send us your grub.conf and details of your disk > partitioning -- to the list > Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Stuffed Triple Boot System
I have just stuffed up my triple boot system: Fedora/WinXP/RH7.2 BACKGROUND: Taking a HDD with an existing RH7.2 installation, and putting it into a functioning Fedora/XP dual boot system so that it can be booted (don't ask why - there are good reasons). ACTION: Booted into fedora, added the RH7.2 boot partition into /etc/fstab, mounted the rh /boot partition, changed its label, copied the lines from its grub.conf file into the fedora grub.conf file with relevant changes (eg, changing it from hd0,1 to hd1,1) (after backing up grub.conf, or course). PROBLEM 1: The new option shows up on the boot screen; however, when I choose it, I get the following error: root(hd1,1) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 Kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb3 Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition PROBLEM 2: Worse, when I select to boot into Fedora, I get the following errors: Unable to open /etc/fstab for writing: Read only file system. (then other "Read only file system" errors when the system tries to touch a file, until the boot hangs). Can't figure out how to fix it when I get into the grub command-line, either. Fortunately I can still boot into Windows (or I wouldn't be sending this email!) :-/ Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Triple Boot: XP, Fedora & RH7.2
I currently have a dual boot machine with WinXP and fedora - works fine with GRUB as the bootloader. I need to add a second hard disk with a RedHat 7.2-based application, and add this to the Grub menu. How do I do that? I can't remember what the kernel version was with the drive: do I need to install it as the default drive and boot it to record the information? Or can I install it as a slave, boot into Fedora, mount the partitions (somehow - instructions would be appreciated) and get the information for Grub from there? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] KDE dies
My new fedora installation (fully updated) seems to be subject to KDE dying - nothing I can do seems to resurrect it, and whilst I know there is a way to open a new tty shell f4rom within an X application, I can't seem to find it. What's worse, when it happens, it seems to kill the USB system: when loading into Windows, it can't find the USB mouse attached, and seems to require making a change to the USB settings in the BIOS. Weird! Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] KDE dies
My new fedora installation (fully updated) seems to be subject to KDE dying - nothing I can do seems to resurrect it, and whilst I know there is a way to open a new tty shell f4rom within an X application, I can't seem to find it. What's worse, when it happens, it seems to kill the USB system: when loading into Windows, it can't find the USB mouse attached, and seems to require making a change to the USB settings in the BIOS. Weird! Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device
OK, now I have that straight - the cd IS hdb. But I still have the system trying to load the floppy driver to mount the cd! On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:18, John Clarke wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 10:11:08AM +1000, Edwin Humphries wrote: > > > Should the /dev/cdrom symlink be pointing to /dev/hdc rather than > > Yes, *if* your CD is the master device on the secondary IDE > controller. Primary master is hda, primary slave is hdb, secondary > master is hdc and secondary slave is hdd. > > > dev/hdb? If so, how do I change it - I haven't done that yet? > > ln -sf hdc /dev/cdrom > > > Cheers, > > John > -- > Coming Soon: O'Reilly's "Feng Shui and the Art of Disk Partitioning" > -- Tanuki > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device
G'day, I'm getting the error message "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" when I try to mount the CD. This is after installing RH7.2 on an old Pentium I/166 (to modify an old 7.2-based application); the box has no floppy drive. I raise that because the /dev/cdrom symlink points to /dev/hdb (not hdc as I believe is normal) and the log shows the following: localhost kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.97 localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.7-10/kernel drivers/ide/ide-cd.o: insmod ide-cd failed localhost kernel: hdb: driver not present dmesg shows multiple repeats of: ide-floppy driver 0.97 hdb: driver not present The fstab line shows: /dev/cdrom/ /mnt/cdrom/ iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 Should the /dev/cdrom symlink be pointing to /dev/hdc rather than dev/hdb? If so, how do I change it - I haven't done that yet? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bad magic number in super-block
G'day all, We're just trying to add a second HDD to our Fedora server. It's not new but recent. fdisk'd it OK (one single linux partition), then ran mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1, which reported no problems. Then, to check (because we weren't entirely sure about the provenance of the drive) I ran fsck, which reported as follows: e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 Now I'm not sure what a super-block is, and I certainly don't know what a magic number is, and whether a bad one is a serious problem or not! So I don't know what other super-block to try with e2fsck -b. Can anyone suggest how we get around this problem? I'm now more than a little uncertain about putting any data on this drive! Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB Printer
We're trying to share an Epson USB printer via Samba on our new Fedora server. The share is set up OK, and can be seen and opened from Windows clients. However, although the Fedora box can print to the Epson, the Windows boxes can. All other Samba shares, including a laser printer connected to the parallel port, work fine. Does anyone have a clue how to fix this? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OT: wireless security
I know this is not the reason this list exists, but I know I'm speaking to a community of largely security conscious IT people. What i want to know is what IT security policies are going into place regarding allowing corporate laptop users to access Telstra (and other) wireless hotspot services. That assumes, of course, that laptops are wireless capable, and the wireless system is configured. But it seems to me that allowing wireless hotspot use has significant security issues. Any response - via the list or direct - would be gratefully accepted. Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer port
Yes, disabled in BIOS. On 17 Mar 2004 at 13:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Did you disable the "dead" printer port? > you may have some an irq conflict > > > > > Our RH7.2 server printer port died last night, and we've installed another > on a PCI > card. However, kudzu don't recognise the new system, and running printconf > shows no > printer devices. > > How do I get the system to setup the new printer port as an lp device? > > > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printer port
Our RH7.2 server printer port died last night, and we've installed another on a PCI card. However, kudzu don't recognise the new system, and running printconf shows no printer devices. How do I get the system to setup the new printer port as an lp device? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Route Reject
We need to prevent one network from using our Linux box as a router, whilst allowing another network (on anothger interface) to use it. It seems the "route reject" command will do this; am I right? If so, most of the references I've seen to it require a "route add" or "route del". Is this right? If so, would the correct syntax be: "/sbin/route add -net 151.193.141.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 reject"? Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Speeding up gs printing
Memory usage 16.5%, processor usage 95.2% On 17 Dec 2003 at 11:27, Peter Chubb wrote: > >>>>> "Edwin" == Edwin Humphries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Edwin> We're printing a postscript file to a shared windows printer; > Edwin> it takes ghostscript a very long time (around 3 minutes) to > Edwin> prepare the file for printing (533Mhz Via Eden system). During > > Are you running out of memory? > > -- > Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au > The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* > Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug