Re: [SLUG] email

2002-04-23 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, John Clarke wrote:

 You need an SMTP server to be able to send mail.  sendmail, postfix,
 exim, qmail, it doesn't matter which one.  I'll give you some help on

Not quite true John. You can use something like pine or netscape, with an
SMTP client built in. No server needed.

But I would agree that he follow your instructions. Its better to do it
properly.


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Re: [SLUG] email

2002-04-22 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, savanna wrote:

 I'm currently trying to get email going on my Mandrake 7.2 laptop, just
 wondering if I'm going about it the hard way (it seems a lot of work). I've

Mail can be complex, buy the common case you describe should be easy.

 I've installed getmail to
 get my mail from the different POP servers - that was easy.

 Sending mail seems a bit harder - the doco suggests I install a mail server
 like sendmail, exim or qmail. Is that really necessary?

Some mail clients, such as pine, have a built-in MTA. ie they talk SMTP to
your ISP. This only works when you are online of course.

 Is there any easier
 way to do it? (looking at the web pages for email servers, it seems a major
 amount of study is required to get a mail server going).

You dont need to understand sendmail to use it. Nobody really understands
sendmail.cf . Just install the standard package. Relaying should be turned
off already. You may want to change one thing - set your ISP mail relay as
a 'smart host'.

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Re: [SLUG] USB Webcam - Swann

2002-04-04 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Jim Clark (Logique) wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know if the cheap run of the mill USB webcams work under
linux, if so how?

 swann USB smartcam deluxe (640x480) - $58 at umart.
 based on the ov511+ chip - so it works with linux.

Jim,
thanks for the tip. I ordered it from Umart.
I paid by direct debit, but they sent it COD anyway.
That fixed, I open the box and its a different webcam.
This is a Swann Versacam mini. Similar spec, but different chip :-(
This is an STV0672 chip. I've found some references via google to
a Linux driver, but found only stale links so far.

  Any ideas? I suppose I'll have to send it back.

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Re: [SLUG] remote control

2002-03-23 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Marko Denev wrote:

 I would like to be able to remote control my linux box. I'm thinking of

You mean remote access? That was the norm in the old days when everybody
used a terminal to share a unix server. So it works well.

 either just telnet to it or using some other software such as PC Anywhere on
 the Wintel platform ( have not decided on this option as yet).

Dont use telnet - its very insecure with passwords sent in clear-text.
 You want 'ssh', which has win-dos clients such as putty.

Of course, X-windows has always worked over a network. Or use VNC.

 Anyway my question is is there a how-to or a man document that explains how
 to enable telnet to my linux box. I know it will be handled on port 23 but I

 man -k telnet?  Just install the telnet daemon, and RTM. But DONT.
Install ssh instead.

 don't remember how to invoke the telnet software/daemon. I hope this

Its normally invoked from the /etc/inetd.conf mechanism.

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Re: [SLUG] Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd

2002-03-21 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Nick Croft wrote:

 I wrote too soon.  Had to bindkey -m to establish a Meta key.

Thanks - I wasnt aware of that one. No more !$ for me now.

 Am I the only zsh addict round here?

Have been addicted to zsh since before I heard of Linux.
Of course bash is doing a good job of trying to catch up with zsh. Maybe
in a few more years ...


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Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet

2002-03-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tiwari, Rajnish wrote:

   Has anyone has had any experience with using Optus's
   dial-up networking with Linux ? Are there any issues with

Yes, no problems.  The important thing is that they use normal
standards. Just about everybody except AOL is fine.
  There is no official Linux support - and who can blame them with all
the different options and distros that Linux offers. However dingoblue
has a help page for Linux, and they are an optusnet reseller.

http://k9.dingoblue.com.au/linux.html

Get it quick as they are shutting down.


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Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet

2002-03-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Andre Pang wrote:

 Optus block port 80 and 139, which shouldn't really affect you.
 If you _really_ need to run a webserver at home, you can always
 run a https server (port 443).

Thats not needed. Unlike many services, its trivial to use a different
port for HTTP, by putting the port number in the URL. You could even use a
re-direct.

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Re: [SLUG] grep help

2002-02-11 Thread Mike Holland

 On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 17:35, Jason Rennie wrote:
 
  What I need to do is compare the two files to see if they match. However I
  cant use diff becasue a number of brain dead students added full stops to
  the ends of lines which breaks the sample output.

Use 'tr' to convert periods to whitespace, then tell diff to ignore
whitespace.

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Re: [SLUG] pppd setuid not recognized

2002-01-01 Thread Mike Holland

On 2 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:

  220 -rwsr-xr--1 root dip218524 Sep 29 22:00  /usr/sbin/pppd

 But when I try and connect I get this error:
 /usr/sbin/pppd: must be root to run /usr/sbin/pppd, since it is not
 setuid-root

Is the partition mounted with the no-suid option?
A virus replaced pppd with a script? :)

Use 'strace' to see what is happening when (if) it tried to suid.

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Re: [SLUG] pppd setuid not recognized

2002-01-01 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, getadog wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:07:32PM +0800, Mike Holland wrote:
  Use 'strace' to see what is happening when (if) it tried to suid.

 strace is one of those cases where suid won't work. Its

Sure, but you cant still run it, either as user or root, and see if
anything unexpected is happeneing.
  The actual 'suid' call wont work, but then it isnt anyway :-)

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] Hard disk wipe / file shredders etc

2001-12-29 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, James wrote:

 And the software that recovers deleted files that the police use etc, know
 any programmes like this?

 My KMail programme buggers

 Girls are for pleasure; boys are for ecstasy.

Regretting that kiddie-porn you downloaded ? Or just trolling?

If you are just being cautious, a few overwrites of random data to the
partition should do it.
  If you really think the cops are onto you its time to burn the
hardware. And get a new hobby!  Not that the cops are really that smart,
but do you want to take the chance?

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Re: [SLUG] X irritations

2001-12-02 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Jason Rennie wrote:

 When X switches to a lower res, it then provides a virtual desktop the
 same size as the higher res desktop. Is there anyway to turn this off, so
 that the whole x desktop is fixed to the size of the screen ? A number of

I think the question you want is Can X change the desktop size during a
session? and the answer is no. But there is bound to be another fix.
  Modern X servers can change the display mode, because that can be done
without affecting apps.

 windows games end up running under wine, but keep scrolling off into the
 window manager.

Would it help if you could disable scrolling of the virtual desktop?

Otherwise, your solution is to start a second X-server X :1  on
another virtual terminal. Thats also good for old games that want
8-bit mode graphics.


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Re: FW: [SLUG] One Request, please!

2001-12-02 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Fox, Michael wrote:

 I just checked my settings of my mailer and it has been told explictly to
 send in plain text... has it not been doing so? or was your commnets in
 reference to someone else whom replied to my posting?

No, you are not sending HTML, but you are sending the ENTIRE message being
replied to, including headers, as an attachemnt. Please stop it.
Cant you at least use a web mailer?




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Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's

2001-11-26 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Grant Parnell wrote:

 occurred to me that I could go one step further and say use a script to
 scan emails for URL's that aren't in people's .signatures and say

You could call a simple script from your .procmailrc, using grep, wget,
mimencode, and mailto to fetch the pages and send as a separate e-mail.
   Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a
script/command-line ?  (though I think it would be better as a separate
mail.)

  That wouldnt (easily) fetch images, style-sheets, etc.  You could use
a caching web proxy on your laptop, such as wwwoffle(1), to cache pages,
and options to wget to request images etc.  Then you could later view the
complete page in your web browser. The caching proxy would take care of
size limits, and deleting old pages before the disk filled up. Maybe even
pre-fetching images too.

  Show us your script when its written!

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Re: [SLUG] Enabling users to write to vfat partition

2001-11-21 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Laurie Savage wrote:

 I'm using RedHat 7.1. I can't write files to the windows partition
 /mnt/win98. I want my users to do this. Tried chown root.users -R

Laurie,
You need umask=0 . Or umask=002,gid=xxx   where xxx is a group to have
write access. See fstab(5).  e.g.

/dev/hda2 /win vfat  exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0


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Re: [SLUG] 3 Button Mouses

2001-11-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, D.V.Rogers wrote:

 Been looking around and all I can find are 2 button mouses with a scroll
 wheel!

Look again. The scroll wheel is mounted on a button. You can click the
scroll wheel down, as well as rotating it. You should be able to use a
scrolling mouse as a plain 3-button version.

 Thankx in advance

What this x in thanks crap? It may have been cutsie with adolescents
once, but after enough years, it gets as irritating as the 733t ha40rs.
  And besides, its thanx :-)

you're welkom,

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Re: [SLUG] Reading CDRW Disks

2001-11-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Heracles wrote:

 put it on a CDRW disk (using windows) and my system does not even
 recognist that a disk is inserted. I know it can be read using
 something like easy CD creator in Windows

Are you sure? Did you try? If the cd-rom doesnt recognise the media,
it could be a hardware problem. CD-RW use different coloured dyes
and may not work on your drive.
  Otherwise, search on the UDF file system. That'll tell you all.

 Linux? Could anyone point me in the direction of a HOWTO etc.

Have you read the CD-rom and cd-writing howtos? (OK dumb question, but
needs to be asked)

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Re: [SLUG] CD ROM Burners

2001-11-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Nicholas Tomlin wrote:

 Could a kind soul please advise which of the CD ROM burners is compatible
 with Linux - Mandrake 7.2?

RTFHowto:

 The Linux kernel has a device driver that should work with any ATAPI
compliant CD-ROM drive. Vendors shipping compatible
drives include Aztech, Mitsumi, NEC, Sony, Creative Labs, and Vertos. If
you have recently purchased a CD-ROM drive, especially if
it is quad speed or faster, it is almost guaranteed to be IDE/ATAPI.


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Re: [SLUG] CD ROM Burners

2001-11-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote:

 On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Nicholas Tomlin wrote:

  Could a kind soul please advise which of the CD ROM burners is compatible
  with Linux - Mandrake 7.2?

  The Linux kernel has a device driver that should work with any ATAPI

Oops - I quoted the wrong HOWTO, but basically, they all work the same.
Linux sees the CD burners as SCSI (over IDE).
You want an MMC compliant burner, but most are. (USB is no good.)

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Re: [SLUG] Power supply

2001-11-13 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tony Green wrote:

 The modem on the other hand maybe a bit more tricky.  I had to pick up a
 new modem on arrival because mine didn't seem to work properly.  I could
 get it to blind dial, but it wouldn't detect the dial tones etc (YMMV).

You can get the same problem with modems approved for use in Aus.
Just add 'X3' in the dial string ( ATX3DT) to avoid dialtone
detection.  The modem should work fine in any country.

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Re: [SLUG] Swapping KDE for GNOME?

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Jon Austin wrote:

 but I want to play around with Gnome on a box here. The problem
 being KDE is currently installed on the box.

How is that a problem?
I have both installed on Mandrake. Is that asking for trouble?

I have exec gnome-session at the end of my .xinitrc to start gnome.


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RE: [SLUG] Filenames with spaces - and using a shell script.

2001-10-26 Thread Mike Holland

To remove the spaces in filenames try 'rename', e.g.:

% rename   - *.html

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, George Vieira wrote:

 hang on.. your right..sorry.
 ls -1 | while read A; do echo $A; done

Yuck! What a hack. That fixes spaces, but now breaks on filenames
containing newlines.

The original problem was caused by the completely unneeded use of 'ls'.
Some correct examples were since given, buts its worth pointing out that
the real problem is unneccesary complexity. KISS.

  Also avoid spaces in HTML filenames, since web standards dont allow
spaces in URLs.

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Re: [SLUG] LAN Party!

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Terry Collins wrote:

  Wow! Its all black-on-black text. Kewl. Discourages the Netscape lusers?

 err, sorry about that. I just throught it was just another clueless WWW
 designer and read the source  {:-).

:-) Easier to use the mouse to select/highlight the text, so the BG turns
yellow.


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Re: [SLUG] Email client recommendations

2001-10-02 Thread Mike Holland

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Steven Blunt wrote:

 You can set up a local SMTP server which will hold mail until you next
 connect to the net.  I'm fairly sure sendmail does this by default.

Does any distro automatically flush the mail queue when you connect to the
net? I added /usr/sbin/sendmail -q to /etc/ppp/ip-up.local .

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Re: [SLUG] Login problem help!

2001-09-27 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, blinddog wrote:

 When I login and the X login promt appears it normally would have my login,

You mean when I boot it?

 my partners and the root to choose from. Now I have approx 30 icons to choose

Yuck! Edit /etc/inittab and change the initdefault to 3, ie set the line:

id:3:initdefault:


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Re: [SLUG] Slow to pop

2001-09-27 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Peter  McCarthy wrote:

 I have noticed that when poping (mail retrieval) off my RH7.1 Linux box my
 Win PC is very slow to do the p.o.p.

I'd guess you server is trying some kind of network lookup. 'tcpdump' will
probably tell you what its doing. DNS? ident?

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Login problem help!

2001-09-27 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Tom Massey wrote:

  i'd consider that a fairly serious bug against the mandrake kdm packaging.

 Yes, it is a bit peculiar. Though only a bug I think in the Debian sense
 of not conforming to a given standard. (Yes I know there are other reasons

A very BIG bug for people like me who mount /usr as read-only.

 Red Hat people. And so it remains. Ah well. At least it's not in /opt :-)

/opt would be better.


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Re: Fixed: Re: [SLUG] RH7.1, Gnome, Sawfish 4x4 desktops

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Terry Collins wrote:

 configuration in the middle of the gnome control panel and turning the
 four workspaces off, followed by a restart of X (cntrl+alt+backspace)

Arg! Thats almost like a reset. Try the gnome 'logout' so it can
do a more orderly shutdown.

 As I understand it, gnome was running four desktops/workspaces and
 sawfish was running four in each of those.

I'm new to gnome, but that doesnt sound right. Its all done by the
window manager.

You had four workspaces, each containing 2x2 desktops, right?
Workspaces are separate, desktops 'join'. ie a window can be half on one
and half on the next desktop. So which do you have now?
   It can all be set by gnomecc-sawfish-workspaces-workspaces
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Re: [SLUG] a pop keep on server mail client

2001-09-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Graeme Robinson wrote:

 platforms - AFAIK IE isn't available for 'nix platforms is it?

IE5 actually runs on Solaris and HP-UX.

http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/

There are no unix/x86 versions released though.
It should port to Linux easily, if you can obtain the source.

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Re: [SLUG] I finally got fed up enough to write this diatribe

2001-09-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Laurie Savage wrote:

 The problem as I see it is that we tend to sound like Nerdy entusiasts (ok
 we are nerdy enthusiasts) and are not seen as offering real solutions. I

Laurie, what is the topic here? Public perceptions?
Linux offers real solutions in many areas.

 still think a real problem with GNU/Linux is that there is insufficient
 naive-end-user software.

Insufficient for what?
Why should Linux have _any_ naive-end-user software? You talk as if this
is self-evident.
  You make a general rant about the weaknesses of linux. OK, so what?
It doesnt make coffee very well either.

  Are you of the opinion that someone (who?) should write drool-proof
office apps? Why? Do you think it would be profitable? Perhaps you just
think it would benefit mankind, and would like to discuss how it might be
achieved. As it stands. Linux remains largely by geeks, for geeks. Thats
still good for everybody, because the geeks run the fileservers,
webservers, development platforms, embedded systems, internet
infrastructure, commercial systems, etc that everyone benefits from.

  The average joe cant even program his video recorder. IMHO, Linux will
be in his home inside an appliance that does games, web-browsing,
video-streaming, DVD playing. It might be thin-client, or remotely
administered by a subscription service, like a Tivo.


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[SLUG] Re: WAS: I finally got fed ... IS: Tivo

2001-09-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Graeme Robinson wrote:

 A Tivo [drool] - are they linux embedded? I want one of these quite badly

Yep. Sure is. It was the closest thing I could think of to
linux-for-the-masses.
  http://www.tivo.com/linux/index.html

 - anyone on the list got one? Impressions?

Andrew Tridgell hacked it to work here:

http://marc.merlins.org/linux/linux.conf.au_2001/Day4/InsideTivo.html

but Tridge is a God.  I'm waiting for a DTV tuner card. Preferably high
definition.

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Re: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall

2001-09-23 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Les Stott wrote:

  Find the process ID for xinetd
   ps -ef | grep xinetd
 
  then kill -USR1 pid_of_xinetd
  eg kill -USR1 676

Or save time by killall -USR1 xinetd.  See killall(1).

 Probably easier than finding the PID and then using the kill command is by

 service xinetd restart or

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Re: [SLUG] File size exceeded message from su -c

2001-09-22 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Laurie Savage wrote:

 What does the message
 file size exceeded
 mean when I try to su? I hadn't got as far as doing anything to a file and

Laurie,
Sounds like a job fore 'strace'. It traces system calls.
Try 'strace -o log su '  . You may need to do it as root so SUID
works. The answer should be in the log. Search for the error message, and
look what happened before it.

Then tell everyone how useful strace is!

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Re: [SLUG] Netscape Windowmaker problem

2001-09-22 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Michael Lake wrote:

 There is always a file created called in you hidden .netscape directory called
 lock When Netscape crashes on me I have to manually delete it. If it is still

Redhat and mandrake at least, use awrapper script for netscape that
deletes stale locks, among other things. You may wish to use it.

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Re: [SLUG] Memory usage in gateway system.

2001-09-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Keiran Sweet wrote:

 I have recompiled the kernel to disable modules, statically include the
 network card drivers, and all other hardware drivers, plus include all
 needed netfilter support.

Why bother with all that? Whats wrong with modules?

 All of this managed to get the kernel size down from about 2 megs(plus
 modules) to about 722k.

I'm surprised - I thought modules were supposed to keep memory use down.
Too many non-modules drivers in the kernel?
Still, I dont think you need have bothered. 64MB is more than plenty for
your purpose.

 My question is why i am constantly noticing that
 the systems memory is always
 becoming highly used, upon boot it uses 17megs of the 64 availiable, and
 i'll check back a day later to see it using about 62 megs of memory.
 I have asked a few people about this, and they have advised me that its
 due to HDD caching ect, ie, more writing/reading activity the more RAM

You just answered your own question. Unused memory will fill with disk
cache. What does the command free -m tell you?

Also ps aux will tell you pre-process memory use (virtual  resident).

 I have looked through a few books and havent been able to find much

dead trees? STFW , e.g.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offq=linux+memory-management+faq
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/sec6.html#AEN2058


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Re: [SLUG] Rescue operation.

2001-09-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Bill Bennett wrote:

 I'm hbaving trouble with my laptop, which is running Mandrake.

Version?

 For some reason, I boot up and the process goes to the cheerful penguin,
 ticking off the tasks. It stops at Mounting USB files and refuses to budge.

How long did you wait? It might timeout.

DO you need USB to boot? Try booting with 'nousb' arg. to LILO.
Hopefully that fixes it.

I found that in /etc/init.d/usb :
grep -iq nousb /proc/cmdline  exit 0

Otherwise, boot with rescue floppy (mini-distro like tomsrtbt), mount the
root fs, and edit the config.

 I suggested that simply re-installing Mandrake from the disks (which I
 have) might work, but even if this were possible, would I not lose the
 data files (which are important)?

Arrgh! You've been using windoze, havnt you? Re-install is rarely the
easier way in Linux.
 Hopefully you have a separate /home partition for your data?


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Re: [SLUG] kill user and print jobs script

2001-09-19 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Alister Waller wrote:

 Whats the best way to run a shell script so that it has the right
 persmissions to kill a user and stop/start and clear down print queues?

Your effective user-ID must either be root, or the user in question.
Why not run the script as root? (assuming its carefully checked and
tested) Your problem is not clear.
  You can use  'su', egsu user -c my-script-command
If you are not already root, it will ask for the user's password.

  See also 'sudo'. Is that what you want?

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Re: [SLUG] SMS trought modem

2001-09-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Matthieu Chauzit wrote:

 that would send a SMS throught a classic modem (without
 internet connection). Does anybody have some simple source code

Hey! Why bother learning to use a search engine when all these SLUG
guys will do it for free?

 In this case, STFA (Search the friendly archives) - its been on SLUG
before.

http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/lists/slug/1999/December/msg00571.html

Do you know which protocol your desired service uses?

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] Someone trying to hack me

2001-09-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Graeme Robinson wrote:

 the solution is to install linux and setup a firewall-gateway.  Forget
 trying to secure your win98 box.

Thats not quite true. There are firewall programs - not as good as a linux
firewall box, but OK for personal use. Especially when you dont need any
services open.

But I think the best answer was GTFOML. Amen!

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Re: [SLUG] SMS trought modem

2001-09-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Matthieu Chauzit wrote:

 I already spent a week on the net before soliciting SLUG help. Indeed I
 could not find a C program. Although there is sms-client (as suggested
 by Howard Lowndes), but it is way too much complex. So I was wondering
 if one of the SLUG guys had a simple source code somewhere..

You cant get much simpler than

  http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/lists/slug/1999/December/msg00571.html
 
 It is about perl scripts.

Oh I see - you want someone to do the actual coding for you?
Actually its a shell-script wrapper for a chat script.

Perhaps you thought it was complex, and didnt want to reinvent the wheel.
Looking for existing code is often a good idea. But in this case you
can plainly see that it is trivial. To quote from Craig Southeren:

/usr/sbin/chat -v $DEV  $DEV REPORT CONNECT ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO
DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ OK \\dATDT${SMS_NUMBER} CONNECT ''
'QUIT)' $TARGET\\n KEY $MSG BEING SENT ATH  $DEV  $DEV

ie dialup, then send two lines of text: the number, and message. Its
mind-bogglingly trivial.

 protocols for the connection of Short Message Service Centres (SMSCs) to
 Short Message Entities (SMEs) (GSM 03.39)

Are you sure? It sounded like you wanted to use a POTS dialup SMS gateway.

 I am still looking for a simple C implementation of it.

Perhaps you want to see the code for the chat program?
Why 'C'?

main() { exec( /usr/sbin/chat, REPORT, ATZ, OZ, ...

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Re: [SLUG] SMS trought modem

2001-09-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Crossfire wrote:

 Matthieu Chauzit was once rumoured to have said:
   I am currently trying to see how I can implement a C program that would
   send a SMS throught a classic modem (without internet connection). Does
   anybody have some simple source code or information that would help me to

 SMS transmission is not simple unless you're using something like TAP
 or the ASCII dialup interface that the script that was provided.

That seems to be what Matthieu wanted.

 I'm currently working on a C implementation to handle ETS 300 916 (GSM
 07.07 v5.9.1 - AT command set for GSM Mobile Equipment) and TS 100

One example of a program to send an SMS by AT commands is at:
http://juraj.bednar.sk/work/software/smstools/myputsms/

Matthieu, come to think of it, you may find that code useful, as it does
all the same kind of things you need - open a serial port, send commands,
wait for response (ie like 'chat').

 585 (GSM 07.05 v7.0.1 - Equipment Interface for SMS and CBS) in my
 spare time, so I can get linux to interact with my Ericsson phone.

There is a lot of software on palm-pilots for that kind of thing, which
you might find helpful.

 From what I've seen of GSM 03.39, it is outside the operational domain

What kind of protocol 'GSM 03.39' ? (not AT commands?)

 for most users, consquentially there is unlikely to be a free
 implementation of it yet.  [However, if there is free implementations
 of this stuff, can somebody *please* point me at them :)]

Have you seen 'gsmlib'?   http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/

GSMLIB is a library to access GSM mobile phones through GSM modems.

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Re: [SLUG] Satellite connection

2001-09-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 I have been asked to change one of my Linux PSTN gateway connections to a
 BPB satellite connection.  Having never done one before I have one or two

This might help:
http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/lists/slug/2000/June/msg00247.html

It seems to be possible, but not popular.


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[SLUG] Re: TV tuner card: TV Excel

2001-09-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Mike Holland wrote:

 Has anyone heard of the TV Excel card being used under linux?
 Suggested module parameters for bttv etc?

 Its a BT878 with the Philips tuner, but I cant get it working with the

Answer: The card is labelled PV-BT878P+, made by Prolink in Taiwan,
and is better known as a PixelView PlayTV Pro.

  It still didnt work, so I tried a different video card (from my matrox
g200) and different X-server, with success. Now its magically working
with the original setup, but I've no idea whats different. I still dont
have sound, but thats probably just another setting to get the right
sub-carrier.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: TV tuner card: TV Excel

2001-09-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Terry Collins wrote:

 card. The usual thing seems to be to jumper the sound out of the card to
 the line in of your sound card. All the brands I've played with come

Yes, thats how its set up. All working now - almost. If I get a bluescreen
on startup, switching input to a different source and back to TV fixes it.

I had no luck finding a stereo TV-tuner. They all do Nicam, but not the
german A2 thats used in Australia.  I saw a reference to a Flyvideo A2
card in Europe, but I didnt find anyone here who could get one.


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RE: [SLUG] USB Memory keys

2001-09-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Steve wrote:

 No probs- though a little expensive at $99...

 Well it's that or track down a new laptop floppy drive and limit
 myself to 1.44M of removable storage... Plus geek chic factor.

For that money (US$ right?) you can buy a USB zip drive and get 100MB
per disk. For not much more you could get a whole palm-top computer.
 The key is cute, but most PCs with USB still have a floppy drive. I guess
you use Macs?

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Re: [SLUG] Bandwith problems or server load

2001-09-16 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Antony Clarke wrote:

 On that fatefull day in the USA, www.cnn.com and most other news sites were
 unreachable for a few hours even to american users with leased lines. Does

I was able to reach CNN a few hours after it started. A bit slow and some
timeouts, but semi-usable. BBC and slashdot were fine, so the backbone was
OK. This was via optusnet.

 anyone know if this was due to bandwith availability or load on the servers?
 Can a connection timeout be caused by more than a bandwith problem?

I think you just answered that - server overload for dynamically generated
pages. Unfortunately, they didnt seem to have an automatic mechanism for
switching to static, low-graphics pages.

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[SLUG] TV tuner card: TV Excel

2001-09-15 Thread Mike Holland

Has anyone heard of the TV Excel card being used under linux?
Suggested module parameters for bttv etc?

Its a BT878 with the Philips tuner, but I cant get it working with the
bttv driver. A google search shows only Australin hits, and none
mentioning Linux, so its probably sold under different brand names
overseas.
  I've been experimenting with
  rmmod bttv; modprobe bttv card=$x  for different card numbers, but
no luck.

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Re: [SLUG] TV tuner card: TV Excel. Also, stereo?

2001-09-15 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Terry Collins wrote:

 Grep for excel and see if it is listed. You will need to work out which
 number card it is.

Thanks Terry, but I've been there too. Since all web hits on the
tv-excel were in oz, but there is nothing australia-specific about the
hardware, I'm guessing its marketed under other names. If no-one has heard
of this card with Linux, I'll just give up and return it.
   BTW, I just took another look at the source and found a 98 /
2000 reference for the flyview, so that one should do.

Further question : has anyone managed to get stereo sound from Australian
TV on a BT878 card?  The philips tuner does FM stero, but not TV stereo
here.

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Re: [SLUG] / in directory names

2001-09-14 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Minh Van Le wrote:

 Is it possible to have a directory name '/' ? or the / character in a
 directory name ?

There are only two characters not legal in a filename: / and  NULL,
but there are plenty you _shouldnt_ use.  :-)


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Re: [SLUG] XFree86 badness

2001-09-11 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Stephen Graham wrote:

 Two days ago I apt-got the latest (woody) version of XFree86:
   XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System

Were you running V3 or V4 before? if V3 then its a major upgrade and you
should reconfigure.

 Now the odd thing is that (a) my XFree86Config file has not changed at all, and (b) 
my default colour depth is 16 bit.  Below is a copy of my relevant definitions in 
/etc/X11/XFree86Config:

Wrong name. Old file is XF86Config, new one is XF86Config-4, with a new
format. Its supposed to fall back to the old one if needed.
  (if typo, best to cut  paste names)

ciao,

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Re: [SLUG] Can't print post/ghostscript...

2001-09-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Martin Hunt wrote:

 My Canon BJ-200 will print text files fine, but when I try and print
 postscript I get nothing.

 [me@myComputer ass02]$ gs -sDEVICE=bj200 ass02.ps

Martin, how do you normally try to print? You dont need to run 'gs'
manually. If you lpr ass02.ps it should recognise that its postscript.

 If you do want to run 'gs' manually, RTFM. (consult the fine man page)

e.g. gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=bj200 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE \
-sOutputFile=- ass02.ps

 What should I do at the prompt???

Nothing. Dont run it interactively.

  How can I pipe from gs to lp

Use lpr/lpd to do the spooling. Dont pipe direct to the lp device.

 Any pointers would be much appreciated... I have been at this now for
 some time...

Are you aware of lpd and/or CUPS printing, and the automatic filtering?
I have recently been struggling with bugs in it.
  See printcap(5) and note the input filter script specified. You can read
it to see how it works.

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[SLUG] Re: modem escape sequence - it got me.

2001-09-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, I wrote:

 It would be a major bug in a modem to ignore that requirement.

 So what evil kludge of a modem actually hung up on the '+++' ?

Well strip me naked and paint me purple MY MODEM has the bug.
Oh the ignominy! My beloved Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO failed
the ping test. The Mitsubishi Corporation must pay!

   But its been reliable enough. It cant be breaking out into command mode
every time it sees +++. Anyway, I've changed ATS2 in flash, so no need to
put it in the initialisation string. Eh ...it cost $75. WTF. At least it
aint a winmodem.

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maths, was Re: [SLUG] Answer + Disappointment

2001-09-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Ben Leslie wrote:

   1) The chance of a combination of binary code coming out in the exact
   format of +++ath0 is literally staggering. Winning lotto, by comparison,
   would be an every day event.
 
  Yes, 1 in 72057594037927936.

 or more nicely 2 ^ 56. Which means in every 16.7 million 4 gig chunks of

Whoa! Whoa! Stop right there guys. You are all making one huge assumption
that the data is random. And thats just plain wrong. None of your numbers
are at all meaningful, given that one little oversight.

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Re: [SLUG] dial up ???

2001-07-06 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Paul Younis wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of 

Paul,
I dont think there is a HOWTO on that. Try mgetty - it makes PPP dialin
easy, and has good documentation.

There is an old article:

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/ali.html

 and shre www.

Share internet access?  See IP masquerading. Or use a local proxy?


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Re: [SLUG] FTP transfer

2001-07-04 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Alister Waller wrote:

 Now, when I run this using a cron job:
 my log file consists of
Interactive mode off.

So it looks like you script is being run. Does ftp connect to the server?
 If something fails under cron, suspect environment vars.
Add something to the script to log them. But in this case, I dont think
so.
  Another difference is the lack of a controlling terminal. Ftp uses
terminal features. Nothing about that in the man page though. I recommend
trying a different FTP client. There are others around, and some are much
better,  e.g. ncftp, wget.

  Also, in scripts, crontabs, etc, remember to use full paths for
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Re: [SLUG] 2600 Australia Seminar Series - Saturday July 14th, 2001

2001-07-04 Thread Mike Holland

Its truly amazing how popular those old Ataris game systems remain, after
all these years. I guess you always remember the first.


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Re: [SLUG] my next stupid question

2001-07-03 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Alister Waller wrote:

 for i in `ls *.TXT`

ALister, as in the last question, you dont seem to be aware that wildcard
expansion is done by the shell, not by the command as in MS-DOS.
  So the 'ls' does nothing useful, and may cause errors. Shells are
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[SLUG] St George, internet banking - RESULT

2001-07-03 Thread Mike Holland

For the archives, or anyone interested,

St George internet banking on Linux does not work with CREDIT CARD
numbers. The old applet used in Linux/Netscape doesnt allow for the
required issue number. Before, they issued a spearate access number, but
no more. This isnt a problem if you have a savings account, and login with
that number.
   For now, I can use IE under VMWare.
IE under Win4Lin wont load the applet. I dont know if that is a problem
with Win4Lin's networking.

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[SLUG] St George, internet banking and Linux.

2001-07-02 Thread Mike Holland


Has anybody managed to access St.George internet banking from Linux?
What version? Should I change the Java VM?
  I found a thread in teh archives, but it went off on a tangent
 (surprise :)

  St.George made me upgrade Netscape, and now I find a horrible Java
applet, that doesnt work. the bouncy keypad wont take my PIN.
  The ANZ and Commonwealth work fine under Netscape without Java.

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Re: [SLUG] Just finished Just for Fun..

2001-06-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Anthony Rumble wrote:

 Just for Fun: The story of an accidental revolutionary
 Linus Torvals autobiography.

Sounds great, but where is the FTP site?




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Re: [SLUG] script - modem

2001-06-19 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Kick off? Shouldnt they be using lock files to share access?
 
 portslave is bound by init, so you need to remove it from inittab and
 restart init to free up the modem...

IIRC, portslave listens like getty for incoming calls and does radius
authentication. Is that close?   It should respect /var/lock/LCK..modem
type locks, to allow it to be used for outgoing calls.


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Re: [SLUG] Cheap and nasty camera

2001-06-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Jamie Honan wrote:

 All will be released under the GPL. But in order to show how to
 build, what it looks like etc, I want to take some photos.

Use a scanner. Even cheap ones I used had a some centimetres depth of
field, plenty for photographing flat-ish objects. And the quality is
infinitely better than a cheap digital camera.
  OR just use a regular camera, and scan the photo prints.
 
 I don't want an expensive still camera, but a cheap one that will
 work under Linux

I think what you really need is a better excuse to buy a digital camera :)


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Re: [SLUG] script - modem

2001-06-17 Thread Mike Holland


 i am writing a script that needs to use a modem to dial a particular
 number then hang up without the call being answered.

The chat(8) (in PPP package on redhat) does exactly that sort of thing.

 except on this box because it has to kick portslave off the modem, and

Kick off? Shouldnt they be using lock files to share access?

Easist way is to use a dial-out program like pppd to reset the
modem, and handle lockfiles. Use a chat(8) script to do the work, and
return an error code so the dialout program then quits.

 if i invoke minicom after disabling portslave, it works and after exiting
 it so do the echo commands. there is something minicom is doing to
 reinitialise the modem. anyone know what?

See also stty if you want to do this low-level control.
Also, you can tell the modem ATZ to reset echoing, etc.

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Re: [SLUG] Stupid Question about the backspace key!

2001-05-28 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 28 May 2001, Jeremy Kerwin wrote:

 Can somebody please tell me how to configure the backspace key
 globally to delete 1 character to the left, in red hat 7.1/

Common problem. Long history.  See:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BackspaceDelete/

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Re: [SLUG] Good Editors for C development

2001-05-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 24 May 2001, Andy Eager wrote:

 which is pretty schmick).

huh? yiddish??
 
 Does anyone know of any good development environments / editors for 
 writting c-apps with multiple source files.

Emacs is the original and the best:   (try the 'xemacs' variant)

http://www.xemacs.org/

GUI, syntax highlighting, integrated compilation  debugging, version
control, etc etc.

What more could you ask for? ... It has it. Makes visual C++ look like
dosedit. (or vi :)


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Re: [SLUG] Good Editors for C development

2001-05-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 24 May 2001, Andrew Reilly wrote:

 There are two equally valid answers, and they have existed for a
 _very_ long time.  These are:
 
 1) Unix (with vi or some other editor)

You mean working at the shell level?
Is it possible to integrate vi with compilation  debugging?
e.g.
- click on compiler error message to jump to that line in editor
- single-stepping though source in the editor.

   Some people try to
 use emacs as the editor for 1), but that doesn't work as well as
 (2), because it loses some of the multi-buffer bennefits of
 emacs, and because emacs tends to be fairly slow to start up.

In ye olde terminal days, emacs would just suspend (^Z) when not in use.


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Re: [SLUG] Installing without CD drive.

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 23 May 2001, Peter Hardy wrote:

 Basically, we've come across a 486 laptop that we'd like to get linux onto,

How hard to remove the HDD, and copy a disto on using your desktop PC?
 Then replace HDD, boot from floppy, and install. PPP could be slow.
I guess you'd need a special cable or adaptor for the IDE.

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Re: [SLUG] With zsh, we don't need roads!

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 22 May 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 Hey, with zsh, you can get tab-completed man page information and stuff.
 Andre said he'd post his configs at some stage (and perhaps I missed it),

You just bind the 'run-help' command to a key. e.g. for F1 on my box:

bindkey '\eOP'  run-help

Then you can press F1 while typing a command line - great when you forget
which option to use.

I dont know how standard the function key codes are now.

Of course, this wouldnt help for 'wget' - no man page.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux vs Windows Documentation

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 23 May 2001, Alister Waller wrote:

 Does anyone have any good documentation on actual benchmark tests between
 Linux and Windows servers, and also just some general documentaion on why

Serving what? To whom?
I guess you are talking about a fileserver for Win9x/me clients?
ie Samba/Linux vs NT.

OR is it Web/HTTP servers?   Then its a lot more complex, but basically
performance probably doesnt matter. Its your pipe size.

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp

http://www.kegel.com/nt-linux-benchmarks.html
( troll :-)

Unless big $ are involved (ie many licenses), I say use whatever system
YOU best know to to admin.

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Re: [SLUG] wget question

2001-05-21 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 22 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This might seem like a dumb question, but I'm try to get wget to
   output to stdout so I can pipe it to another command.

there is no man page, but see the info pages.

e.g.  % info wget
or% info -f /usr/share/info/wget.info

Lots of FSF programs prefer info to man pages.



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Re: [SLUG] Where to get a 2nd hand laptop

2001-05-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 18 May 2001, Andy Eager wrote:

 I have a friend who saw a cockroach run into his toshiba.   He then 
 placed the said laptop into the freezer in an attempt to kill it.
 
 He killed the wrong animal - doh!

Whats the damage?
If it just erased some memory like the flash-bios it'd be easy to fix.
That would explain failure to boot.
Did it destroy the display?

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Re: [SLUG] pppd over null modem cable?

2001-05-11 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Joshua Burvill wrote:

 on pc1  /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
  192.168.101.3:192.168.101.4 /dev/ttyS0 38400
 on pc2 /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
  192.168.101.4:192.168.101.3 /dev/ttyS0 38400

No need to specify IP numbers on BOTH ends.
You have crtscts. Are you SURE hardwae flow-control wires are connected?
Try nocrtscts instead.
 

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Ghosting HDD's..

2001-03-27 Thread Mike Holland

On 26 Mar 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:

 Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  it may be a little safer than cp -a (devices, not copying /proc, etc)
  and it would even preserve access times on files ;)
 
 cp -a should be safe for devices, but you do have to unmount /proc and the

No need. Use -x.

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Re: [SLUG] Disconnecting Modem Problem

2001-03-25 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, D.V.Rogers wrote:

 When it disconnects the message i get within wvdial is the following;
 pppd: Terminating connection due to lack of activity

Doesnt that sound like your own pppd is deliberately hanging up?

See the 'idle' option in your pppd man page. Is there an idle option in
/etc/ppp/options (or other place used by wvdial) ?

 Within rc.config  file CLOSE_CONNECTIONS = false

What rc.config ? What package does that belong to?


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Re: [SLUG] Re: Ghosting HDD's..

2001-03-24 Thread Mike Holland

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Angus Lees wrote:

 it may be a little safer than cp -a (devices, not copying /proc, etc)
 and it would even preserve access times on files ;)

Angus, "cp -a" will do all that. Dont forget the "-x" to stay on the one
filesystem (not cross mount-points).
  In fact the "-a" so totally changes cp, that it ought perhaps to be a
different command. Like "ln -s".

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[SLUG] [OT]spam - this time its personal. Piranha Computers.

2001-03-22 Thread Mike Holland


I just got my biggest SPAM ever. 174K of HTML, gif, and win32 binaries.
from Scott Warren at Piranha, flogging web hosting.
I'm posting here, because it seems to be from Sydney, and I'm hoping
some of you might be keen for a little revenge at the Spam menace.

Details given are:
Phone (02) 8902-3958   fax: 9882-3639
address:  36 MacMahon St. Willoughby 2068.  
   (That in metro Sydney? )
http://www.piranhacomputers.net/

I urge you to let your feelings known. He doesnt seem to think he did
anything wrong. He said the e-mail addresses were taken from mailing
lists.  At least the reply address isnt fake.


headers:

X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host
p9-max22.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.152.9] claimed to be
unspecified.host
Received: from 192.168.0.201 ([192.168.0.201]) by 192.168.0.102 (WinRoute
Pro 4.1) with SMTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:30:10 +1100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Scott Warren" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Piranha Computers Web Services


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Re: [SLUG] Dependency 'problems'.

2001-03-15 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, David Kempe wrote:

 unless im mistaken (probably) 0.25 is earlier than 0.5

yep, probably. That '.' isnt a decimal point. Not that it stopped Linus
or lots of others from interpreting it that way on occasion.

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Re: [SLUG] tcpdump tcpshow

2001-03-15 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 Can anyone offer the correct options to use with tcpdump and tcpshow to

You dont need any options.
If you get no response, try '-n' to avoid DNS lookups.

 see what the data is on an Ethernet link.  I can get it to work on a PPP
 link, but it seems to get confused with an E-link and won't show me the
 data properly.

Can you be a little less vague?

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recursive web fetch [SLUG] Re: Samba

2001-03-14 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Richard wrote:

  Could anyone recommend some good Samba books?
 
 If you go to the O'Reilly site at www.oreilly.com then you can
 download a free HTML or PDF version of Using Samba.

I found the online books, but not downloadable packages.
Something like the following should get the whole book in HTML

  wget -r -L -l 3 \
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/index.html

Are there any tools that will recursively fetch web pages, but only in the
given directory or its subdirs?  wget seems to lack that, but '-L' is
usually close enough.

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unsubscribe request Re: [SLUG] Re: Slug digest, Vol 1 #686 - 16 msgs

2001-03-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Norman Lane wrote:

 Please send no further emails

Congratulations Norman!
By quoting the instructions you ignored, you have set a new standard
for lameness.  Please send no further emails.

 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
  http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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[SLUG] ISDN / DSL

2001-03-07 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

ISDN

Installation: $BigBread
Hardware: $DoleOutTheDosh

Not if you use onramp home highway. Similar cost to two POTS lines.

Call costs: $PrettyPenny

Unless you use data-over-voice for untimed local calls.

Speed: Shite

For what? 128k low-latency for home. Or 2Mb/s broadband.
 
Speed: Crankenhausen (if the carrier can actually keep their network up)

Bitte? It runs at "hospitals" speed? Is that good or bad? :)
 

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Friendly ISPs?

2001-03-06 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Gonzalo Servat wrote:

 It's not really whether they are Linux-friendly or not. Most (if not
 all) ISPs support PAP and/or CHAP so you can should be able to connect

What does that matter? Most (all?) ISPs support traditional Unix
authentication too. Is there some other method that Linux doesnt have?

 Maybe Netscape doesn't support PAP and support only CHAP? In that case

Netscape has absolutly no connection to PAP/CHAP. Different layer.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Friendly ISPs?

2001-03-06 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Gonzalo Servat wrote:

 Well, yeah. All ISPs support traditional authentication. That's why I'm
 saying that there is no such thing as linux-friendly now is there? It's
 about the authentication it uses to talk to the ISP.

OK, I thought you were implying Linux was somehow different.
But ISPs can be Linux-unfriendly when they have no generic config info,
just MS-win and Mac settings. Or they assume you get DNS setting from MS
extensions to PPP.  Though I've found that if you say you run WinNT, you
get all the info for Linux.
And lets not forget AOL. On second thought, lets do
forget AOL.
 
 I'll add my recommendation for dingoblue. Far from perfect, but best ISP
I've had, and they are happy to help Linux users, even if unoficially.

 I meant Netspace (the ISP he is trying to connect to), not Netscape.

Oops, guess that was a bit too obvious. Too early in the morning over
here. Must have coffee.
 
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duplicate mail Re: [SLUG] Is Linus killing Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote:

  if (when) Linus dies (and i really hope he doesnt)

So you think maybe Linus really is a God then?


 dont "reply to all please" one copy from to:slug is enough for me to read

Dean, (and DaZZa too!)

please fix your .procmailrc by adding:

# Discard duplicate messages
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| formail -D 8192 msgid.cache

Oila! No more duplicate messages.


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Re: [SLUG] RPM 3 - 4

2001-02-18 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

  How can I install the rpm-4-x rpm with a rpm-3-x ?
 
 http://slug.org.au/lists/archives/slug/2000/December/msg00162.html

 Thanks a bunch for your suggestions, upgrading to RPM 3.0.6 solved my

Ta. So I try:

  #  rpm -U /home/packages/rpm-3.0.6-6x.i386.rpm
  error: failed dependencies:
glibc = 2.1.3 conflicts with rpm-3.0.6-6x

Do I have the wrong RPM?  (Whats -6x?)
My glibc is 2.1.3 (RH6.2).  Is the new rpm asking for an older glibc???
 

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Re: [SLUG] Moncrieff terminals

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Holland

Andrew,
if you just walk up to one, it should be easy to find the settings menu,
looking at keyboard. One of the settings will be emulation. I expect
you will find Wyse, VT100, ANSI and others listed. No need for a manual.

What model anyway? 

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Re: Deliberate Virus??? WAS [SLUG] Here you have, ;o)

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, John Morrissey wrote:

 Was this a deliberate effort to infect people on the list who happen to be
 using windoze?

No, plenty of innocents are forced to use Windows at work. Maybe even
outlook. But nobody forces you to leave VBS enabled, or to execute an
e-mail attachment.  That is just begging for trouble.

  So its totally self inflicted. Dont blame Wayne for posting the
example. I'm sure a few of us wanted to see it.

  Whats it do anyway?


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Re: [SLUG] Headerless email?

2001-02-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Tom Massey wrote:

 'Headerless email in account tom_massey' sent from the fetchmail daemon.

Its not you. Just another screw-up at optusnet. The dingoblue service
is good value. But while I tolerate their chronicly faulty news-server,
I would never rely on dingo/optus for e-mail.
  Ummm ... my outgoing mail is via optus, so I hope this works!

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Re: [SLUG] Password script

2001-02-08 Thread Mike Holland

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Clarke wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:12AM +1100, Simon Bryan wrote:
 
  looking for some kind person who knows about these things to send me a 
  short script that would call 'passwd' repeatedly from names in a file and 
 
 When run as root, and given a username, `passwd' asks for the new
 password twice.

Not necessarily. Use the --stdin option, e.g.:

  foreach username (  ) {
echo new-password | passwd --stdin $username
  }

problem solved.

 do what you need.  Below is a working example (generated by autoexpect

Boy - thats doing things the hard way.


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Re: [SLUG] Temporary mailbox close?

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Holland

 At 10:19 AM 7/02/01 +1100, Simon Bryan wrote:
 Hi,
 I often have staff members going on leave for a term or more. In the 
 meantine their mailboxes continue to fill, is there anyway I can 
 temporairily close the mailbox so that it rejects any new mail and sends a 
 message to the sender? We are running Mandrake Linux 6 and Sendmail 8.9.

You can add an entry to /etc/mail/access (dont forget to 'make')

See http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html
FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients') :

blacklist_recipients
   Turns on the ability to block incoming mail for certain recipient
usernames, hostnames, or addresses. For example, you can block incoming
mail to user nobody, host foo.mydomain.com, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These specifications are put in the access db as described on the
Anti-Spam Configuration Control page..

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Steven Kerr wrote:

 I have noticed over that last few days that some slime ball is using
 our sendmail 8.9.3 mail server as a relay.

Unlikely ... 8.9.3 disables such relaying, unless you specifically enable
it.
 
 Feb  7 10:15:13 gatekeeper sendmail[16323]: KAA16323:
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=702, class=0, pri=30702, nrcpts=1,
 msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP,
 relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]

That looks normal - it just describes incoming mail. Presumably spam sent
to your system. It doesnt mean its relaying back out.

Do you see any evidence of spam being forwarded back out by your system?


 So I assumed that the spammer is using the address 127.0.0.1

No, thats just means that localhost is receiving the mail.

 Question: What other configuration could I use to stop this spamming ?
 
See the sendmail docs, e.g.:
   http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html


QUESTION: How can I do spam-filtering in sendmail when calling it from
'fetchmail' ? Has anyone done this? Normal methods dont seem to work.

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail - Spamming Problems

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Marty wrote:

  QUESTION: How can I do spam-filtering in sendmail when calling it from
  'fetchmail' ? Has anyone done this? Normal methods dont seem to work.
 
 if your thinking about using maps/orbs/other blacklist it won't work...
 they rely on denying connections from certain hosts...

The mail will have "Received:" header lines. Any way to use those?

 your connections will be coming from fetchmail and hence 127.0.0.1
 
 it is your isp or whoever is providing the pop box that needs to apply the
 filtering for it to work...

I can do filtering with procmail, but want to be able to get fetchmail to
bounce certain senders, or mailboxes. Whats the best way?
  Should I use procmail commands to generate bounces?

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Re: [SLUG] pppd problems with mgetty

2001-02-04 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Richard Pang wrote:

 In the log file I get the error "yS1  can't get group 'modem': No such file

So, do you have a 'modem' group?

 iii) Run the command "mgetty -D -a /dev/ttyS1"

Dont use '-a' (autobaud), unless maybe if your modem is a museum piece.


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[OT-palm] Re: [SLUG] `Underground' by Suelette Dreyfus - online

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:

 http://the.wiretapped.net/security/info/books/

Thanks for the URLs. but now I cant figure out a way to read the .pdb file
on the Palm. The file is type:TEXt creat:REAd .
I tried 'mobiBook' and 'ToGo' doc readers but neither recognised it.
What do I need?

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Re: [SLUG] `Underground' by Suelette Dreyfus - online

2001-01-17 Thread Mike Holland

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Rick Welykochy wrote:

 at http://www.underground-book.com/download.php3 ...

Are there any mirrors please? The above is slashdotted.

 P.S. I'll be curious to find out how many linkers or sluggers
 out there actually curl up to their PC and read this 1MB plain text

Or curl up in bed and read it on a Palm-pilot.


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Re: [SLUG] TV out for TightWads

2001-01-16 Thread Mike Holland

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Craige McWhirter wrote:

 their own experience. I'm looking a video card, the cheapest I can get

Just how tight are you? :)

Didnt ye olde IBM CGA cards have composite video output? Not PAL, but
it would work in mono.
I'm sure there are still some lying around. No 3D though IIRC.


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Subba Rao, was Re: [SLUG] Large HD and VMWare's raw partitions

2001-01-15 Thread Mike Holland

There goes Subba again,
posting the same question to SLUG, PLUG, Canberra, and who knows how many
other lists. Do you just do this to Australia (he is in the US), or
are you spamming lists all over the world?  Google shows you in Canada and
UK _local_ groups.
   Even if its only the above three, this shows a total lack of respect
for the time of those who try to help. How much effort is totally wasted,
because someone on another list has already answered?

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web proxy filtering, was [SLUG] Re: Telstra

2001-01-14 Thread Mike Holland

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Richard Gooch wrote:

 I have to admit, I haven't really noticed. But then again, that's
 because I'm using a proxy at home (which also doubles as a banner ad
 blocker (bliss)). And the home proxy machine is RAM-depleted (only 16
 MiB), and thus I get a pregnant pause anyway. I'd love to upgrade the

What proxy do you use? 
I was using 'wwwoffle' on a 16MB 486, and modem, without any noticable
problems. Its good for blacking ads, cookies (selectively), off-line
browsing, etc. etc.
  Has anybody 

Uh - I hope that 16MB proxy isnt the same machine you run X-windows on ?!

 RAM, but 72 pin SIMMs are expensive these days because they're not
 commodity :-(
 If anyone knows a cheap source, please let me know.

Got any spare slots? I have some 4MB SIMs.

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Re: web proxy filtering, was [SLUG] Re: Telstra

2001-01-14 Thread Mike Holland

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Richard Gooch wrote:

 Squid.

That would explain trhe delay - swapping.I think squid designed more for
using lots of memory, and many users. But check the manual - you can
probably change the config to use less memory.
  Otherwise, try wwwoffle.

  Has anybody compared different web proxy filters lately? Does squid
have any advantages for home/single-user use?

 The proxy is on my router/firewall. It doesn't get logged into, let
 alone run X!

Then 16MB ought to be plenty. You dont need ram to cach web pages.

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Re: [SLUG] So what should you buy? [Was: COMPAQ running Linux]

2001-01-10 Thread Mike Holland

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Steven downing wrote:

 Notice the timezone is +1100 (EDT).  That would mean his localhost at
 least is set to the Sydney timezone (well 11 hrs ahead of GMT).  

Ah, I did look but missed it. Looks like 'mathildelan1' is in Oz.
No offense taken I hope :)   Those brands can be good value
in America, but dont compete so well over here.

have a nice day,

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