Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG]partitioning with linux ##
Minh Van wrote: > > > >linux can't handle more than 4 primary partitions eh ? it tells me i'm > > > > hmm, its more a BIOS limitation than Linux anyway, just make sure > > > > 1) /boot is on the first primary partition > > 2) create an extended partition > > 3) put all your logical drives in this partition > > 4) don't forget the swap > > yeah i figured. > > what i'm trying to do is boot os/2 warp 4, dos/win95, nt, beos, minix & > linux off the primary master. > > for two things that make my life difficult - os/2 says my partition table > is incorrect or corrupt, and NT has a hard time figuring fat32. > Use GAG as your boot manager. It can handle all of the operating systems you mentioned. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat Slagging
Simon Bryan wrote: > Another 2 cents (plus GST) worth from a long term newbie.. > > My job involves managing a school network, our primary aim is to be able to > provide the services that the users want (teachers and students) note they > are NOT 'lusers', they are the reason I have a job (and possibly many of you > as well). If they were all experts they would not need me, > > I am learning stuff every day: how to support 1000 users on only 100 > machines with 15 printers, email, web browsing, application software, > network security, anti-viral and anti-intrusion protection, video, cd, dvd and > the development of in-house applications with just two of us > Seems some people don't want Linux to reach the mass market and > seriously chalenge MS - which would be a good thing - I would like myself > and my users to have a much greater choice. > > Having got that off my chest I will go back to lurking and hopefully learning > some more. Simon, Please tell me how you stop the "gremlins" from changing the system. We have a similar number of systems and our computer coordinator spends almost of his three hours per week (the time he is allowed off class to do the job of keeping the networks going) reinstalling win98, removing viruses and replacing unimportant files like command.com and io.sys that the students like to delete - just before they turn the system off without shutting down. Changing from windows is not an option as the DET have supplied the "Microsoft Set" to all state schools and expect it to be used. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] HP Computer and Linux
I tried to help a mate install Caldera Linux 2.2 on the second HDD in his new HP Prolinea Desktop. The setup went fine until near the end. We entered the correct specs for the inbuilt video card (which was detected and is supported) and the monitor. The screen then displayed a set of horizontal bands of white and, although the system did not seem to be locked up, we could not get back to a text terminal. I tried running through the usual steps I use with SuSE if this happens to no avail. I have advised him that we are having an install fest soon and he will be attending if possible, but for the time being, does anyone have any ideas? Stay well and happy Heracles PS. I had a feeling that the video card may have been misread by the installation, but the docs suggest not. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to annoy PINE users
Ken Yap wrote: > >> Perhaps we should coin a new word: Penguinterrorist? Penguinguerilla? :-) > > > >Penguinilla! > >Press release: Penguinilism wreaks havoc on Internet-connected MS boxes! > > YES! By jove, he's got it. Leave the poor buggers alone. It's not nice to pick on the OS challenged. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] good advocacy article
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Conrad Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > A gust of sanity for mindless penguinistas ;-) > > > > http://linux.com/news/articles.phtml?sid?&aid206 > > > > Conrad. > > Bugger - I hate it when El Presidente' makes sense !! > > Maybe there's a few future SLUG "projects" in here ? > How much would it raise the profile of not only Linux > in general but SLUG other LUG's, to have us set up a > network for, as an example, the Guide Dogs Association - > the media would eat that up, we'd get (hopefully) good > press, and not to forget the "warm and fuzzies" as > well... > > And they'd get a kick-ass network for next to nothing... As an aside to this, I helped a friend of mine (an M$ user till now) set up e-smith at school in his department. It works so well and so efficiently that his little network (5 machines - e-smith - modem)is always up and online whereas the wonderful M$ systems around the place are almost always having problems. I have now been asked by the "computer guru" if I would set a similar system up in other places around the school. Need I say more ;-) Stay well and happy Heracles. P.S. The latest version of e-smith is great. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation
marty wrote:
> > >Dont feel left out, I live 15 mins from the city (Hunters Hill) and im not
> > >getting it either :(
> > >
> > >The HH Council is really precious and wont let Optus hang cables either.
> > >Bastards.
> >
> > May they choke in their own bile !!
>
> be thankful you don't live in the sticks (**cough** newcastle **cough**)
>
> no cable and no adsl until 2002 or later
>
> :(
Try being at Summerland Point - I think we upgrade from Smoke Signals sometime
next millenium :-{
Stay well and happy
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] What to do
Jill Rowling wrote: > Yet other people seem to be using Staroffice on Linux so I thought it might > be just a configuration thing. I think I will have to rtfm again. > > - Jill. > I use Star Office 5.1a both on my SuSE 6.4 KDE setup at work and on Enlightenment at home (also SuSE 6.4 with the updates) and have not yet had a problem. I'm still on XFree version 3.3.6 though. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Free T-Shirt Offer/Installfest
Jason Rennie wrote: > Hi all, > > As you all know SLUG is running a bit install fest at macquarie uni on the > 26th of august. > > We need people to run talks, they can be on anything cool to do with > linux, or newbie oriented talks, or both :) > > Also we need people to act as installers. All installers will get a > t-shirt for there efforts (so there kinda free ;), and the tshirts will be > a one-off so if you get one for working as an installer, you can be part > of a very small club :) > > Let me know what you'd like to do, and if you would like to be an > installer, what have you installed, can you install and what level of > experience do you have relating to problems. > > Jason I will be there on the day - I will need to know where in the Uni it will be exactly. As to experience - the usual - RedHat 6.0/1/2, SuSE 6.0/2/3/4 and the latest version of e-smith but never Debian. I was one of the insrall demonstrators on the SuSE stand for the four days of the PCIT. Usually a reasonable problem solver, but no expert. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Proper quotes with X / The GIMP
Jeff Waugh wrote: > Howdy all, > > I hate to pull out the "Help me or I'll reboot!" card, but this time, it's > getting serious. ;) > > I need to use proper quotes in The GIMP. ` and ' only the *real* kind. It's > probably related closely to X as well... > > In the Other OS you can just type alt-0xxx to use something out of the > keyboards range, such as alt-0133 for an em-dash or alt-0233 for an e acute > (a very special character to have in one's name). Actually alt-130 is the e acute in DOS and in notepad alt-233 gives an underline in notepad and a theta in DOS. In a bash shell you get an e acute for alt-233. I don't understand what you mean by "the real kind". I get the quotes - both double and single - correctly displayed using the Utopia font in the Gimp. I think if you want a foreign character such as e-acute etc. you may be better off setting it to use the Eastern European character set. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] debian 2.2 (potato) released
marty wrote: > > This brings up and interesting point and I'm not trying to start any distro > > religious wars but might it not be a bad idea to have our own "official > > distro advocates/evangelists" Maybe someone for each distro (well most of > > the more prominent ones anyway) in an identifying t-shirt or the like that > > can be available to "inform" the newbies as far as any specific distro > > questions. > > ok... hands up who **doesn't** want to wear a debian t-shirt... > > anyone... ?? I tried Debian once (version 1.0 I think - it was on my Slackware CD back in about 93 or 4) and it was a pain to install. I have found SuSE much better. I admit that Debian MAY have improved a little over the last few years, but why wear a Debian shirt if you can't even get it to install Saty well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] workshop-full of junk available late this week
Terry Collins wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Yep, this is very limited use. > > > > Well it depends on the expectations of the users. If everybody wants to run > > StarOffice, then there isn't much hope of supporting them on discarded hardware. > > Pentiums run SO & WP okay. > If users hqve an explanation of getting the latest, greatest and > fastest, then they would not be the sort of donee CB would want. > > I have this problem with my surplus list > (http://www.woa.com.au/surplus) - some people WANT everything, but > have a strange reluctance to pay postage to have it sent to them. > > Unfortunately the current evidence is that hardware (not very modern hardware > though) is easy to get and takers are few. If you have access to machines of the 486DX4 100 category or there abouts with some memory and HDDs (just the box - no monitors needed) I know an IM class that could use a couple. (As for pickup, I would be happy to arrange that.) Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Intellimouse Explorer troubles
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > James Wilkinson wrote: > > > > Section "Pointer" > > Protocol "IMPS/2" > > Device "/dev/mouse" # /dev/mouse is symlinked to /dev/psaux > > Resolution 100 > > Buttons 7 > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > SampleRate 150 > > BaudRate 9600 > > EndSection > > Section "Pointer" > Protocol"IMPS/2" > Device "/dev/psaux" > BaudRate1200 > Emulate3Timeout 50 > Resolution 200 > ZAxisMapping4 5 > Buttons 7 > EndSection > > That's my setup, which works. > The critical part of this seems to be the BaudRate setting. I also have found that changing it from 1200 gives unpredictable results. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] pap/chap script
Ian Ward wrote: > What works for me to debug a dialin script is to connect to the modem using > cu > > Sometimes you need to set the permissions, so try something like this. > #chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0 > # cu -l ttyS0 > at > OK > atdt22 > > blah > blha > > ~. > # > > Just write down the steps or questions you were asked. > > Ian Or you could just setup and use kppp with the debug window open. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Fix to: Help - Disaster Struck
Rick Welykochy wrote: > Steven Kerr wrote: > > > Thanks for those who responded. > > > > The fix was a bit of patience and Reading TFM > > > > e2fsck -b 16385 -c /dev/hdd1 > > > > The -c did a bad block check, in frustration I left the system > > overnight as it appeared just to hang... no disk activity for about 10 > > minutes. > > > > This morning it had finished (well dropped back to shell anyway), and > > now the fs is mountable. > > Had a similar disk muckup the other day (found oue that cat had been > sitting on the keyboard of a server tucked away in the corner ... somehow > all the errant keystrokes crapped out the machine!) Both corrupted disks > on the server recovered quite well and the keyboard has been removed :) > > This is YALSP (Yet Another Linux Selling Point): When these kinds of disk > failures occur on Windows, unless you have a Ph.D. in Norton Utilities and > have forked out $$$, chances are exactly 0% that you will recover your disk, > since MS fails to provide any tools with its OS to save you from disaster. > > -- > Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited Actually its not too hard in M$ either as long as you have patience. I once recovered a 340Mb HDD in only a couple of days. Got almost all the files off OK too ;-) Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian still sucks
I know the title of this note is a little extreme, but on the advice of several members of SLUG i decided to give Debian 2.2 a try. What a mistake! It usually takes me about 30 minutes to install and configure a default SuSE system - I have been working on installing Debian for four (4) days so far and have not yet been able to get it to work properly. I had to use this windoze machine to get back on the net - Debian just keeps killing the ppp daemon, or if I manage to get the connection I can ping the ISP's machines, but can't get a browser or email client to work. What a waste of time and effort! Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Smith v4.0
Jon Biddell wrote: > > Has anyone played with e-smith yet (apart from Charlie Brady, that is > !!!...:-)) > > Just got a server / gateway / etc. up and running from scratch in under > 30 minutes with (from memory) one reboot > > Hell, I'm impressed... > > -- > Regards, > > Jon > We set it up to connect two of out networks at school to the net with no major problems. Works like a dream. Stay well and happy Heracles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian still sucks
Anand Kumria wrote: > Having assisted quite a few people in their install of Debian I think > I know what you are missing: the Debian System Administrators Manual. > > Unfortunately, though such a document is referenced, it does not exist > in non-corporal form (i.e. other Debian users). > > Perhaps you can write up your problems (in more detail) and send it onto > the debian-doc mailing list (or similiar). > > Anand Actually Anand, Hard though it may be to believe, I am using the Debian 2.2 distribution at this very moment. I was just frustrated at my total lack of knowledge (common sense?) after so many years of playing with Linux in its various forms. I apologise for my rash post. The fault was entirely mine :-( I believed the documentation and did not bother to put my ISP's DNS addresses in resolve.conf. The only program that seems to be broken now is Balsa, but I'll sort that out. BTW. Why does Debian come with a loader for Netscape3 and a note that Netscape is not free? I would have thought it better to update this information. Thanks Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] User-owned mounts
Ken Yap wrote: Except for > stupid FS like FAT which have to have ownership faked. Give FAT a break, Ken, it was designed to run as a simple single user system on a 360K floppy. Perfect security if you keep the floppy locked away ;-) It is just the inappropriate extension of its use to more sophisticated systems that is the problem. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evil HD
John Ferlito wrote: > > I've just come across the most evil hd I've ever discovered. It's > a segate ST5808A. 850MB Drive. > > It's got this thing called Dual Drive emulation mode which I'd never heard of > before. appraent;ly to overcome the old 540MB limit. It sort of splits the drive in >half and > pretends to be the master and the slave drive in the system. Now the question is if >you put it > in a machine with a master drive any ideas how you tell it which side of it's own >drive you want to > view :) > > -- > John There should be a set of 12 pins which take jumpers on the drive. Pins 1 and 2 are shorted for the drive to act as a slave. Pins 3 and 4 are shorted if the drive is a master with a slave Pins 5 and 6 and Pins 9 and 10 are shorted for the drive to emulate a master/slave combination within itself. Pins 7 and 8 and Pins 11 and 12 are not used normally Hope this helps Stay well and happy Heracles P.S. http://www.seagate.com is a useful site. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mozilla
Has anyone had any experiences with the Mozilla browser. I checked out M14 from the latest Debian distribution and it seemed very unstable. It does have some features that I would like to have available to me though. Are the newer releases (e.g.. M17) more stable or is it still unusable? Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to recover a failed Debian installation?
Terry Collins wrote: > > I was part way through a Debian installation, it has just finished > asking the question about source CDs ad looked at 3 CDs, when a message > listing a pile of packages wrapped across the screen and about having > 0/180Mb to install came up and it stopped taking input from the > keyboard. The other terms were present. The system rebooted okay, but I > only have 79Mb of stuff installed. > > So, I'm wandering how to pick up from where it failed. > That is exactly what happened to me. After rebooting I ran dselect (it highlighted install so I just pressed ) and it carried on with the installation. It had aparently already stored the information it needed, but may have a bug in the installation process. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Name of Source package for Suse 6.4
Terry Collins wrote: > > Does anyone know the name of the kernel source package for Suse 6.4? Terry, There are two copies of the kernal source on the SuSE 6.4 disks. The first is the SuSE kernal source which is called "lx_suse.rpm" and the second is "linux.rpm". They are in series d1 and d2 respectively if I remember correctly. I think the SuSE version is on CD-1 and the plain version on CD-2. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [OT] Debian Flame on LWN
Dave Fitch wrote: > > Jill Rowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I haven't seen this sort of offering from any of the popular Linux distros, > > well not yet anyway. > > It's probably an expensive "free service". > > indeed which is one reason many companies are paying money for > support for these unicies rather than using a "free" unix. > Where I work, paying $0 or $100 or $1000 for the OS is > irrelevent, it's the support that matters. > > Dave. Have a look at http://www.suse.com and go to the support section. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-smith 4.0 network issues
Dan Treacy wrote: > > Hey Sluggers, > > I'm after some help (if anyone is willing and able) with E-smith 4.0 details > are as follows: > > I've recently installed V4.0 on a HP 6611. (Celeron 533 i810 Motherboard > with DE500 NIC) Install was sensational and flawless (or so I thought :-)) a > very nice product to use (and using it a lot I will be if I can resolve > these issues). > > I'd be awfully appreciative if anyone could shed some light on this for me > or even provide some suggestions as to things to try. > > Thanks, > > Dan. e-smith may not be correctly identifying your network card - check what module it is loading. (Alt-F2 to a new term and log in as root - use your admin password) Also, when you set it up to go online, be careful with the times. We had trouble getting e-smith to go online - thought it was a modem or serial port problem, turned out to be the timezone was set to the US by default. Easy fix but was frustrating at the time. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Beginners Home Network
Richard Blackburn wrote: > > Thanks to George Viera for the offer of advice for a basic home network. > Well where do we start? Someone just gave me an old 586 box. So what do > I get next? > 2 NIC cards, some cables and hub? > I'd like to try to document this setup for others further down the line. > Richard Depends entirely upon what you want to do. If you are only networking two machines together then use a crossover cable (~$15 for a 5 metre cable) and two NICs at about $25 each for PCI types. If you want a larger network you will need a hub. Make sure you have enough RAM in the 586 - say 64Mb. Other than that, follow the advice in any of the HOW-TOs that apply and the NAG is a fun read also. It is really easy if you get supported cards - you'll see once you start the project. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Netscape error
>From time to time, usually after a few hours on the net, Netscape will crash and autoclose with the only error given being "bus error". It has only happened since I upgraded to Netscape 4.75. Any ideas? It is not much of a hassle, but I would prefer not to have the problem. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Star Office and Printing.
> I've never been able to get this to work. I can get it to print out the > sample pages from within spadmin, but when I try to print real documents > they silently fail... > > The printers are setup correctly via lpd because I can print from anywhere > else. > > Any further hints? > > Ta, > Mikal Use the "generic Post Script" printer and have Ghostscript do the work. It does a good job and can be set to work interactively. I had it working this way sending the print jobs to an old bj300 until it died. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] New User with a few questions.
Doug Stalker wrote: > > Graeme Nichols wrote: > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > Please bear with me if the questions I am about to ask appear to be a > > bit silly. I am completely new to Linux. > > > > I have just installed Red Hat Linux 6.1 onto a 10G HD. > > Welcome! > > [...] > > > Linux still works fine. WIN 98 works just fine and doesn't hang around > > trying to sort out the HD. It sees C, D & E (the CDRom). I can go to the > > D drive under Win 98 but again cannot actually do anything such as DIR. > > A message comes back saying that some thing else has the drive. I am not > > game to try a format on D in case it may be the Linux partition. Under win98, format the D: drive. It will not be your Linux partition. Win98 will not give an unknown system a drive letter. I have set up several systems in almost exactly the way you described and they all worked fine. The only problem I had was the booting, and once I got GAG to look after that There were no problems. Have fun with it. If you make mistakes you can always reinstall AND you will have learned something. Once again, welcome to the Brave New World and remember 7x9 is not 42. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP DNS woes
Gregg wrote: > Are there any other SLUG people in Gosford who use the > same ISP who are having similar experiences? Are there other ISPs in > Gosford that are: > a. Cheap? > b. Support Linux? > > I'd be grateful for advice. > > Regards, > > Gregg > When I was in Woy Woy I used Linux with Terrigal.Net and ComCen, but they are not cheap ($44 per month). I'm in Summerland Point now and still use Terrigal.Net but use their Newcastle POP (Nobbys.Net) and it is still expensive. Friends of mine use Terry Anthony, but I'm not sure of the cost. Stay well and happy Heracles P.S. If anyone knows a good CHEAP ISP in my area I'd love to hear from them. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Another literature question
Stuart Cooper wrote: > > If you see a book that mentions accomplishing the learning of C or any > other technology in a particular timeframe (24 hours, a weekend, 12 > easy lessons) it is safe to ignore that book. > > Enjoy, > Stuart. Hate to disagree with an expert, but speaking as someone who has had to start from scratch, I found books such as "Teach yourself C in 24 hours" an easy starting point. If you don't have either a general understanding of programming or a tutor/mentor handy then I think "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment" is a bit heavy going for a first book on C. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian newbie guide for existing linux users
Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > If there a guide anywhere titled "Debian for people who have had a lot > > of experience using Redhat and redhat like linux distributions like > > Mandrake who now wish to change to Debian"? Yes > But, I have to admit, the best way of learning all the intricacies and cool > tools is to have a rabid Debian user to refer to. Gus, Conrad and Anand have > been my (very well qualified) converters. :) Who'll probably tell you to RTFM > Just ask around, and see if there's a special way of doing things before you > try doing them the way you're used to. Debian has a special (read obscure) way of doing EVERYTHING. Even trying to set up X you're apt to get quite anXious whereas, to pull another Distribution out of my Red Hat, say SuSE it's as easy as SaX (or is that the Kiwi way?). Stay well and happy Heracles > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- > > "The ability to procrastinate is what separates us from the > machines." - Chris Gregory, Desktop Magazine > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
Terry Collins wrote: > > James Wilkinson wrote: > > > > > Dirty balls? can't help more than that, sorry. > > If you are under the impression that it might be dirty balls then I > haven't made myself clear. It is definitely not a dirty ball or rollers. > > It is like the left mouse button is being clicked very fast, repeatedly, > on everything the cursor passes over. > > Somewhere something is broken, very badly. > Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, much appreciated. If it is a serial MS Mouse that you are using, there are several possibilities. 1. The com port may not be set to run at 1200 baud. It really matters! 2. gpm may be running and this often interferes with the operation of some mice in X 3. The mouse may be faulty. Case 1 - run SaX and fix the problem remembering to use keys only until you apply the changes. Case 2 - add gpm -k to the beginning of the startx script. Case 3 - Either pull the mouse apart and fix it of replace it. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Was network card - now sounds in X windows
Ken Foskey wrote: > > Another question, is there a trick to getting the X-windows sounds going. > I can play a sound 'play phone.wav' and I change the plugin in XMMS to the > OSS driver and I can play a sound there but I cannot hear the sounds from > the windows actions. > > Ken Depends on the window manager. You usually have to set up your sounds using the config tool for your window manager. However, sometimes they are incorporated in the theme, as in enlightenment, but you can change them to whatever you want. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dual boot Linux & Dos/wfwg
Ken Caldwell wrote: Terry Collins wrote: > > The boss's (SWMBO) pentium has finally spat the dummy and needs a > complete rebuild, so it is an opportunity to put in a bigger hard disk > and convert it to dual boot. The dual boot will be Suse6.4 & DOS(WFWG). > > Does anyone know of any gotcha's with this? One possible problem. I found that it was usually better to set up the boot sector of the Linux partition as the repository for lilo. Something Windows for Workgroups writes to the boot sector seems to get fscked by lilo - or maybe it was just my old system. I had no problems with other versions of windows, just wfw. YMMV. stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Idiot file remove
Jon Biddell wrote: > > While playing around with my tape drive, I appear to have created a > tar file in /backup called '-z' > > And no amount of rm'ing will move it. > > Any clues ? Nor sure about on tape, but have you tried renaming it. Something like mv *z fred.tar might work. I know in DRDOS I could always use the wildcards to get around unusual characters in filenames. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Are distro's no longer supporting 486's
Terry Collins wrote: > > Gidday Folks > > Is anyone noticing any trouble doing installs of later distros onto 486 > hardware? > > I'm currently have a lot of trouble getting Suse 6.4 onto an AST Bravo > 486DX2/66 that previously ran Suse 6.0 okay. Also had trouble with > getting Debian 2.2 (spud beta 6/2k) on as well. > I assume you are using YAST (the older installer as used in 6.0)and not YAST2 to do the install. The only gotcha is that you have to pick the basic 386 kernel. The distribution selects a pentium optimised kernal by default. Other than that you should be sweet. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP support and Linux
Jason Rennie wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a question. > > Many people complain about the lack of support from most ISP's regarding > linux. > > now from the ISP's point of view linux would be expensive to support due > to the ratio of linux users to windows users. My ISP both uses and supports Linux. I have been with them for about five years now and although they are expensive ($44 for 300/300) I always get straight on and the speed is generally fair. (BTW I'm with Nobbys Net which is part of Terrigal Net) Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP support and Linux
Edward Murphy wrote: > > Well speaking from a helpdesk point of view the helldesk I work for (ihug) > don't officially support linux but if you were to call up and need support > their is someone there that would be more then glad to help them out. > > We even provide drivers for our Satelite product (Ultra/satnet) for a linux > 2.2 kernel. I contacted iHug sales by email asking about Satnet and they did not even bother to reply. Says a lot! Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Older i386 looking for buff firewall. Must know how to handle badpackets...
Aaron Binns wrote: > > Hello World, > > Ive got an old 386 machine - an SX I suspect thought I dont know for sure - with > 4meg ram, 20mge hdd, 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives, ega & 8-bit soundblaster > card. I want to make this machine into a firewall for an up-coming cable or adsl > connection. It doesnt have to run any web proxy or mail server or squid cache - > just firewall between outside and inside. > > 1. Now, can you make a linux install on a 20mg drive on a 386 which will do > this? - and what distro is best suited for this? There are plenty of small distros about, but you'd be better off with a 486 or at least a 386DX. If you want to roll your own mini distro try a Debian small install without X - Under 40 Mb if I remember correctly. > 2. What networking cards should I get? (ISA? PCI? - assuming there are enough There are NO PCI slots on 386 motherboards, they came in after the VESA slots on the 486's > slots for each...) > 3. Where can I get these cards from? Try Granville (the market is part of the OZ design warehouse - you turn left at the second set of lights (coming from Parramatta on Parramatta Road) - the first set only let you turn right! And then turn right into the lane at the back of the warehouse (it's on the corner). There is a little parking at the back and the market is open 10-3 Saturday and Sunday I think. Or you could try North Rocks on Sunday, but it will be smaller than usual due to the constraints that Westfield put on the traders in the lead up to Christmas. > 4. Will doing this increase my Internet latency much if at all? Depends on your connection, Mine would to be an XT to be any slower ;-P > 5. Since the box doesnt have a cd-rom drive - would it be best to install off >floppies or do a network install? NFS install is easier than floppies. > 6. Is there anything else I will need that I havent mentioned? Patience > Cheers + TIA, > > Aaron Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Older i386 looking for buff firewall. Must know how tohandle bad packets...
Matthew Dalton wrote: > > Ken Caldwell wrote: > > > > Small Linux at > > http://smalllinux.netpedia.net/ > > will boot with only 2MB RAM ! (we lived in a shoebox and had to eat > > gravel...) > > Any bids for 1Mb? Do I hear 640k? Going once, going twice... There is always ELKS on an XT. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Computer Markets was [SLUG]Older i386 looking for buff firewall. Must know how to handle badpackets...
SydLinx wrote: > Regarding computer markets, I was wondering if anyone can recommend > any of the other markets around Sydney, or warehouses selling > computers cheaply? > > Similarly can anyone recommend which auctions or sales of computer > equipment are worth attending. Pickles Computer Auctions are really good but DON'T go there during school holidays. The mums and dads (with kids) fill the rooms and boost the prices. The Granville market I mentioned and North Rocks both have vendors of second hand stuff - some of it worthwhile. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux news on slashdot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -> What exactly do you find difficult (desktop wise?). > > installing software on linux is a pain - compared to windows. - you > have to find the right file - read a readme - figure out how to > decompress/run/do somethngt with that file - get a Cd of 3rd party > software (linux has distros - but they will never answer everything - I knew I must be doing something wrong. I can never seem to get installing software to be this complicated. All I do with rpms and debs is open them in mc and click install or upgrade and it's done (or do an apt-get install if I don't have it in my zips directory). Silly really, I'll have to get someone to show me the complicated/fun way. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux news on slashdot
David wrote: > > I wasn't going to get onto this thread, cos I'm a Mac person struggling > with Linux and getting by, not an IT professional. > LINUX IS NOT EASY. I found Linux a lot easier to install and although I agree that the OS is not easy to install and configure (unless you use SuSE ;-) it is no harder than the other common ones. > The trouble with this list is that nearly everyone is an IT pro, and has > no idea what it's like to struggle with config files and arcane syntax. Actually there are a large number of SLUG members who are NOT IT professionals. Myself for one. I have used Macs and found them difficult at first. Installing an operating system on a blank HDD was not intuitive and the configuration of the system to optimise performance and memory usage was only possible after a lot of reading. > When running apps on a linux desktop distrib. (that has yet to be > invented) is as brain-dead as installing on a mac, then apps will follow > like day follows night. Until then, Linux is a fabulous server OS and a > marginal desktop for the boffins. Once Linux and X are configured anyone can use the desktop. I use SuSE Linux and enlightenment with the Ganimede theme at work and I set up user accounts for my students. They use it to practice their writing and web page design skills as well as to surf the net (the machine is permanently online) and perform other tasks. They love it, and prefer it to the windoze machines. I also use it to store the whole school's reports and collate and analyse the information on them. I find the win98 interface awkward and flakey. I cannot speak too highly of the X/enlightenment desktop. Stay well and happy Heracles PS. Debian Gurus, I have Debian 2.2 on my home system - Is there a tool like YAST or even printtool in Potato to set up my bj300 printer or must I edit the filter in VI? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux news on slashdot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -> as soon as nvidia gives up this silly little game, the drivers will be > -> assimilated and everyone can get on with things. > > i won't say much - I can't (company NDA) but suffice to say they have > very good reasons for what they do - and to be honest - the open soruce > world needs to grow up and stop seeing things only one-sidedly. Third party is fine if it is available. Often when you want to upgrade your hardware you find that the manufacturer has only supplied drivers to run it in win98 or ME or whatever. I bought some hardware recently for my daughter's machine (win95). I had to go out and get win98 because the manufacturer only supplies win98 drivers. If hardware manufacturers are so incompetent as to only supply drivers for one distribution of one operating system, then they should either go broke or let others do it for them. We have nothing against third party software as long as it works properly. And no, I have not as yet upgraded to a fast 3D accelerator, but when my favourite games (FreeCell and GTali) require one I will. Stay well and happy Heracles P.S. Your typing/spelling still hasn't improved. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux as Business Desktop
Jason Rennie wrote: > Well i guess i will have to use it then. I might try openoffice, the just > released GPL version of star office. > > How does it run on older processors ? The test box i will be dropping off > for them will be a 400Mhz K6, but there existing machines are a p133 and a > p166. I run SO5.2 on a celeron 300 64Mb RAM at work. I leave it running in the background all day so it is ready when I need it and often use Netscape and The Gimp at the same time. It works fine for me. I also use it at home on a Cyrix 166+ with 64Mb RAM and it runs ok after it starts up - that part is a bit slow. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Debian Upgrade Problem
Anand Kumria wrote: ll me your toaster isn't working. Is it the > fact that you have no electricity, the element is burnt out, you > have no bread, it isn't plugged in, the switch isn't on, you > haven't pressed down on the toaster-thing-to-press-down, etc. > > Anand Not sure which, difficult to see during the blackout >:-P Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Compliment
Jason Rennie wrote: > I just switched over to debian from redhat, may i reccomend it. > > Apart from only needing 3 floppies and an internet connection to do the > install the system runs quite well. This may be so, but what does it use to do general config. I want to install my old bj300 to run on my Debian system. In SuSE I'd just run yast and have it set up in no time, It seems I will have to get my SuSE system to generate a printcap and copy it over - and yes, I read the Debian Docs that I had available and could not find mention of a config utility. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RPM Fun
Stephen Mills wrote: > > Hi, > If anyone has any idea, feel free to give me a yell. > [root@davros nighty]# rpm -U rpm-4.0-4.i386.rpm > only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of > RPM > error: rpm-4.0-4.i386.rpm cannot be installed There is a .tar.gz copy of the rpm source around. Try that. I'd love to meet the moron who did this! I got caught in the same trap AND rpm-3.0.5 gave the same error. I gave up and decided to wait for it to turn up on the SuSE site in their upgrades for 6.4 section - I did not think any Linux people could be such morons as to wrap a new version of the rpm software with itself - it should have been wrapped with 3.0.3 so it could easily be upgraded. Really gives DOS and Mac people a good laugh at our expense. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mouse can't move after installation
Gladys Siaw wrote: > > hai > I just bought a Suse Linux 7.0 Professional box set, and started to install > it just now. > I managed to go through all the installation steps, and I am able to see the > graphical user interface KDE > everything seems right but my problem is taht I am not able to use my mouse > my mouse cursor is not functioning at all! Just a thought: Check that gpm is not running. It sometimes kills the mouse. Seems to be started by default in most SuSE distributions. Other than that, you could try running sax again and check the mouse. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Newbie Question from a Mac user - Dual Booting Win98 and Linux
Ho Ming Shun wrote: > > A long time ago (Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:27:23PM +1100), in a galaxy far far away, >Shane Anderson wrote : > > Not another Newbie! > > > > Sorry guys, comes with the territory of using an OS that is growing rapidly > > in popularity :) > > > > Also, I'm a Mac user :) Now now, be nice :) > > > > I am actually Shane Anderson, the Mac EvangeList List Dad > > <http://www.macevangelist.com>. > > > > Anyway, I have just bought myself a nice new 900MHz Athlon and 2 HDs and I > > wish to run a dual boot system, Win98SE and Linux (Corel Dist.). > > > > I have had a problem that my searches on the web have discovered is common, > > I get 01 01 01 01 01 all over my screen after installing Linux on the 2nd > > drive, which is the slave of the main bus. The only way to get back to Win98 > > I think that the problem here is that the Linux partition is >1024 cylinders. LIO >needs the kernel to be below 1024 cylinders to be able to load it. Two solutions: > > 1. Download and install a new version of LILO. This could allow you to load the >kernel from a high cylinder. Since your box is so new, I am assuming that the BIOS >would support the stuff to load high cylinders(still haven't really understood the >details of this yet). I have tried it on some older boxes and it would not work. OR download GAG and set it up. GAG is a boot loader and should solve your problem. It is so easy to use even a Mac user could probably figure it out ;-P Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Learning to program
Peter Faulks wrote: > > My 2c, > > If you have enuf time, learn them a bit about relational database theory and SQL. > (Or at least let them know what it is and how to get more information) > I'm inclined to agree with this. It is useful and "usually" logical(SQL). But I think if you stick with Python and C you'd probably do well. After all, I should imagine that most of your students in the initial semesters of the course will be Linux oriented people who aren't really aiming at a career in programming but rather learning to program in the Linux environment for the pleasure of it >:-P Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RH6.2 Product ID, anyone ?
Ken Caldwell wrote: > The 3rd edition of "The Linux Pocketbook" is out and can be found at > some newsagents for $19.95. It comes with CDs for RH7 and Mandrake 7.2 Afriend of mine tried to install the Mandrake 7.2 from this set and could not get it to recognise his PS/2 MS mouse (all other distributions recognise and use it without a hitch). It would not even recognise it when he told it what it was. He went to SuSE 7 - no more mouse problems. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] EMAIL
Is there a problem? I was disconnected from the list because my mail was said to have bounced. When I sent a subscribe message it was bounced by your server. Any ideas? Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mozilla 0.6
This message is sent from Mozilla 0.6. It is certainly not completely stable yet, but has improved quite a lot since M18. Anyone else using it? I keep getting an error about a module I have not heard of when I load Mozilla: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-10 All seems to work OK without it, but what is it? It has only cropped up since I installed Mozilla 0.6 It was not called by earlier versions. Stay well and happy Heracles P.S. Please include my email address in replies as I can't seem to get the list to resubscribe me as yet. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Blown monitor guns
Michael Lake wrote: > To tell if it is a Trinitron: Setup a nice white background and look for > the two fine black horizontal lines 1/3 and 2/3 of the way down the > screen. Hallmark of the Trinitron Clan. If you value your sanity - DON'T do this. They will haunt you! You will forever see the lines in your mind's eye just where they should be on the monitor - even in games. They are almost imperceptable normally, but when you know they are there you look for them. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] shmget and 2.4.0
Jeff Waugh wrote: > In a similar fashion, hdparm -T /dev/hda dies thusly: > > /dev/hda: > could not allocate sharedmem buf: No space left on device > > Odd, no? Anyone have any pointers? Is there _writeable_ space left on the device it wants to use? Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] COMPAQ running Linux
Jon Biddell wrote: > >Video chipset? > > Cirrus Logic I believe - whenever I configure X and it starts, on trying to > return to command mode I get parallel lines and the box hangs... Just an aside but: Most Cirrus Logic chipsets have gaps in the frequencies they support. This can be a bit of a problem. Make sure you know exactly which chipset you have. The SVGA server should be ok IF the rest of the setup is correct. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] re: Problem Mounting hdb under SuSe
On Friday 10 Oct 2003 12:00 am, D.V. Rogers wrote: > Hello Sluggers > > Hoping for some more help on trying to mount drive hdb to > retrieve data. thanks dazza & rickw for their recent postings. > > fdisk tells me that /dev/hdb is definately their!! > > I then created the directory /mnt/temp as a directory to mount > to > > The following happens; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ > mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/temp > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, >or too many mounted file systems Just a longshot, but have you tried leaving out the -t ext2 parameter. Is the filesysten on the hdb1 ext2 or maybe some other type? When I was using SuSE, RieserFS was my default. Also have you tried mounting the other partition hdb2? This is where you probably have your data anyway. Just a thought. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ISA Servers and Linux
I have installed the python program (and it runs fine) but still cannot connect to the internet through our ISA Server. I have followed the instructions exactly, but still don't seem to authenticate. Has anyone been able to browse the net through an ISA server with Mozilla using the aps098 program? If so, how was it done? Changes to the server are not possible. TIA Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISA Servers and Linux
On Thursday 20 Nov 2003 10:59 pm, Robert Collins wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 22:41, Heracles wrote: > > I have installed the python program (and it runs fine) but > > still cannot connect to the internet through our ISA Server. > > I have followed the instructions exactly, but still don't > > seem to authenticate. > > Has anyone been able to browse the net through an ISA server > > with Mozilla using the aps098 program? If so, how was it > > done? Changes to the server are not possible. > > Go to devel.squid-cache.org. There is a link there to a > basic->NTLM translating proxy. ISA is almost certainly > configured to require NTLM authentication. Yes, I know about the translation proxy. The proxy file is called aps098.tar.gz and expands to a series of files that run under python. The program runs, but does not seem to authenticate. Has anyone got it working? Is there an undocumented feature that I have missed? Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISA Servers and Linux
On Friday 21 Nov 2003 2:14 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Heracles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Go to devel.squid-cache.org. There is a link there to a > >> basic->NTLM translating proxy. ISA is almost certainly > >> configured to require NTLM authentication. > > > > Yes, I know about the translation proxy. The proxy file is > > called aps098.tar.gz and expands to a series of files that > > run under python. The program runs, but does not seem to > > authenticate. Has anyone got it working? Is there an > > undocumented feature that I have missed? > > I use it, it's a life saver. > here's a bit of my config: Thanks, after reviewing your file I found my error. All works really well now. Thanks again, silly error on my part. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Software Package Search
On Sunday 23 Nov 2003 11:02 pm, Piers Wren wrote: > Dia works well for windows people as it's pretty simple and > runs under both 'nix and windows. > > There's also xfig which is more powerful, but more difficult to > master. > > I haven't found anything that is as good as Visio, but between > those two and occasionally gimp, you should be able to draw > just about any diagram you need. Have you tried Sketch It handles text and some drawing. You could always run Visio under wine I suppose. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video card info
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:00, Alan L Tyree wrote: > On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 09:54, Alan L Tyree wrote: > > I have a box with a video card that claims to have 32mb memory. Running > > at 1028x768, the best I can get is 8 colour depth. Is this about right? > Oops - 1024x768 > > Thanks, > > Alan No You should easily get 1024x768x32bit colour. My old 8Mb card used to give me 1024x768x24bit in Linux and 32bit in windoze when I out it in my daughter's machine. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Video card info
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:1 3, Alan L Tyree wrote: > Thanks for this Matt & Peter. I'll have a look at the logs later today > (it's my wife's machine). I'm running RH8 and it picked the vesa driver > - I've tried a few others without success. > > Doing an lspci -vv on it gives: > VGA Compatible Controller: SiS: unknown device 6325 > Subsystem: MicroStar International: unknown device 5339. > Alan, I know that chipset (SiS 6325) quite well. It was once necessary to download a special driver for it, but now the driver is included in the Xfree_SVGA drivers(don't use the VESA driver). XFree version 4.1 should have no trouble with it. If the problem persists either get the latest version of XFree or go back to the last of version 3 (3.3.6 If I recall) and use Xfree_SVGA. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [slug] KPPP and ISP problems
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 01:16, Neast Pty Ltd wrote: > Hell Sluggers! > > Here I am logging in on m$hite, in disgust, if only for one reason... > > I can't receive email or web sites on my linux box. > > I can connect using kppp, but when I try to load any web pages nothing > happens. A view of the trafic info on the details page indicates an > incoming blip, but absolutely no outgoing data. OK, Wild guess - you're running Mandrake Linux. If this is correct, what is happening is that you set up your eth0 at the same time as your modem. I have had this problem also, but it is usually easy to fix. Go to the mandrake control centre then select hardware. From this array you select the first icon (harDrake). Select your ethernet card and click on it and select "run config tool". let it autodetect and then untick the ethernet and tick the modem. This does not affect the ethernet card, but allows you to set up the modem. be careful as you go through the setup and you will see one window that asks if you want to use the modem to connect to the internet. Make the correct selection and after the configuration iscompleted it will be saves and the problem should be solved. Stay well and happy Heracles PS. What happened was that even though you were able to dial and get an IP address, mandrake was still trying to find internet pages and mail servers through the eth0 interface. A quirk in Mandrake's configuration that should be addressed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Trouble finding Linux
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:24, Greg Brennan wrote: > I'm interested in installing Linux on my home pc. I've heard > that Mandrake is probably the best for a beginner like myself, but I'm > having trouble finding a copy of this or any other version. As I would > prefer not to order online, I have been scouring newsagents trying to > find a copy included with a magazine (as recommended by the SLUG > website and others) with no luck. Do you know of any current > publications that have this included, and if so, which newsagents in > Sydney City might stock it? Mandrake is 3 CDs usually, but I haven't seen it on the front of a magazine recently. However, You can get a copy of Morphix (based on the cutting edge Debian distribution - sometimes referred to as unstable) on the cover of PC Authority. It runs from your CDROM and has a link on the desktop to install it if you like. Knoppix (based on the Debian Woody distribution) was on the last issue of Atomic magazine. It works like Morphix except that to install it to your HDD you have go to a terminal and type knx_install to start the install process. I don't usually recomment Debian, but Morphix looks really neat - it even includes The Gimp 1.3 and OpenOffice.org 1.1.0. HTH Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System freezes when copying files
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 01:28, Roger Barnes wrote: > Hi all, > > What happens ... using rsync or plain ol' cp, I start copying a fairly > large quantity (1000+) of smallish (1-3Mb) files from a usbdrive or > smbmounted windows share to an LVM2 partition on an SATA drive, on a > linux 2.6.2 kernel machine running Debian Sarge. (told you there were a > lot of factors :) ). After a random amount of time and successfully > copied files, the tranfer fails, and the system effectively crashes. I > can move mouse in X, type in a shell, switch to another tty, but it > won't respond to any commands or Ctl-Alt-Del. Hitting the reset switch > frequently on an otherwise reasonably stable system is painful (I had > another operating system for when I wanted to do that :p). Just a shot in the dark, but I had a similar problem and found it was solved by copying in smaller chunks. I think, in my case, it was filling my /tmp folder as an intermediary when copying and as this was part of my / partition it stopped most operations. As I said, only a shot in the dark. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:14, Bill Bennett wrote:
> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
> People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
>
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
>
> (I do not know the significance of (5).
>
> Has anyone any experience with any of these?
> That you can talk about?
Have used StarOffice and OpenOffice products. They work the same and are
easy to use (almost intuitive). I used to create my presentations in
StarOffice and convert them to Powerpoint to use on windoze boxes.
Just jump in and try to create a simple presentation in Impress, then
use the Help to add the bells and whistles. It took me about 10 minutes
to teach a group of 25 11 and 12 year olds to make reasonable
presentations. You will have no problems.
Stay well and happy
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] Re: problems with Harris Technology and browsers
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If anyone is having problems with accessing Harris Technology's web site > please > send them feedback. might ask you for the type of browser you are using and > the > type of problems you are experiencing with their web site. > > Maybe they might ask you to upgrade to a current version of browser. ;-) Can't see the problem. Firefox works fine on the Harris Technology site. I think the original poster may have a problem with his setup. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OpenOffice.org Mailing list
I have recently had to unsubscribe from the OOo mailing list. The reason: I received so many copys of an email that was autogenerated by exim that it filled my mailbox and caused it to refuse further posts. Is this a fault within exim or some sort of virus/worm? stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org Mailing list
>-- Original Message -- >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:13:34 +1000 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org Mailing list > > >I have recently had to unsubscribe from the OOo mailing list. The reason: >I received so many copys of an email that was autogenerated by exim that >it filled my mailbox and caused it to refuse further posts. Is this a fault >within exim or some sort of virus/worm? > Sorry, That was ezmin not exim. Stay well and happy Heracles Stay well & happy Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW targets employers' email snooping
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 21:27, Howard Lowndes wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 20:43, James Gray wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 04:38 pm, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > *snipped* > > > "Unless employers have a court order, they will need to give employees > > > notice that surveillance will be conducted," he said. > > > > > > That could mean a warning box pops up when the computer is turned on. > > > > We already have a pre-login message on our systems that basically says: > > > > "You agree to adhere to the acceptable use policy. You understand that > > anything and everything you do is logged and monitored and by logging into > > this system agree to allow this to occur. If you don't like this, HR will > > be happy to receive your resignation." > > add to this "...and archived..." > > Mind you, the resignation bit might just land you in trouble, This may seemreasonable in Howard's case, but would he be so keen to enforce this in the case of employers who have outside agencies maintain the networks. Would you like, for example a rival company monitoring your email for you. In our case the only people with access beyond basic restricted user access are the company who maintain the network. The do not exclusively work for the Dept of Education, but are the only ones with high enough privaleges to monitor email - including confidential email between counsellors. Do you want an outside agency reading your child's confidential Psychological and Wealfare reports (Meant for your eyes only)? As I said before, might work in a situation where the IT support is inhouse. Stay well and Happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 2.6 kernel pasting with scrol wheel
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 19:04, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:10:26 +1000 > Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > I've just compiled a 2.6.4 kernel and found that everything works > > except the mouse. > > Is anyone using a scroll wheel PS/2 mouse with a 2.6 kernel? Yes 2.6.3 > Does > clicking using the scroll wheel work for you? Yes Perfectly. (MS Optical Scroll mouse) Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Intro and a question
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 18:31, Gary Bennett wrote: > Hello, > > I subbed to SLUG last weekend, have read along for the week and thought it > about time to introduce myself. > > In the next month or so I'm planning to buy a new machine. My current > thinking is for a P4 2.8GHz processor with 512MB RAM and something like an > 80GB HDD. I also think a combo CD/DVD reader/writer would be useful, and > maybe a separate CD reader. If you mean a drive that reads CD and DVD but only writes CDs then you would be better to get a CDRW and a DVD reader. I have found that the combo drives can be a problem. The CDs written on them are often unreadable in regular CDROMs. > System-wise I'm thinking of running Debian Woody > on it. > Good luck, I've never go Debian to work anywhere near as well as Mandrake or SuSE and I've tried many times over the past 10 years. I personally would recommend either spending a lot of time learning the Debian System or install a simpler version to use first. (no flames please, I know Debian is the "Holy Grail" but it is not the easiest version to begin with) > And so on to the questions: > As a relative newbie to Linux, will installing Debian cause me too much > sleeplessness? Opinions "out there" seem to vary. I've been running Knoppix > 3.3 off CD to begin to reacclimatise myself with Linux. works OK when installed on the HDD as well, but can be a problem when you want to add specialist programs. > I'm planning on keeping the old machine around and hopefully access Optusnet > cable for both. What sort of hardware would be needed to enable both > machines to be connected to the net, and for my machines to be able to > exchange files with each other (more from old to new) Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Boot hangs at 'Starting Samba daemons: nmbd smbd'
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 20:48, Adam Felix Bogacki wrote: > Thanks Mary, > > I tried typing "Linux init=/bin/sh" at the LILO prompt and it booted > without all the bells & whistles, but when I tried 'vi' or 'apt-get' I > was told they were > unknown commands. I had thought I might try changing > '/etc/apt/sources.list' to > testing and deleting and reinstalling samba, or just doing another > 'dist-upgrade'. > > I could do a 'find' and 'rm' the samba files but that might be a bit > unpredictable. > But if 'vi' was not available, what do I use to edit and save files ? You don't have a path. Try /bin/vi etc. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printing with Morphix
Hi all, Installed Morphix (a Debian distro) recently on an older machine and can't find the command to set up the printer. It is on a win2003 server network, but the printer hangs off one of the machines. In SuSE I'd just use YAST2, but what is available in Debian? Stay well and happy Heracles PS Not converted (SuSE 9.1 on main machine) but wanted to give Debian another go. Stay well & happy Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Networking advice please.
bill wrote: I have 3 pc's networked to an ethernet switch, which is connected to the 'Net via a modem router. All works well. My house was cabled for LAN with cat5 cable when it was built. I have connected a pc to each of 2 LAN wall outlets ( in different rooms) with a straight-through (ie not crossover) cable, and have tried connecting the ethernet switch to each of the 4 outlets at the LAN outlet point at the other end of the cabling in my "Den". The appropriate set of lights on the ethernet switch fail to light up, no matter which of the 4 outlets at the wall junction I attach it to, even though the other end of one of these outlets has a PC (in another room) attached. Either all of the LAN cabling in the house is defective (unlikely as the other cables for Cable-TV and TV Aerial work), or I am doing something wrong re connecting the remote PC's to the ethernet switch. Should I be using straight-through cable or crossover cable from the wall point to the ethernet switch (I asume straight-through)? How can I test the cabling, short of purchasing an appropriate cable tester? Straight through cables from the switch is correct. If you are not getting a connection I would check the cabling - check the patch cables first. I know you don't want to buy a cable tester (however, a simple continuity tester is only a few dollars) but without such a device you could be spending a great deal of time and still not solve your problem. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printing with Debian/Morphix
I have installed Morphix on a computer and upgraded the Distribution with apt. All works well. I can use the net through the lan etc. but I have one major problem: How the hell does one set up a network printer with Debian. From my SuSE 9.1 box I just use YAST. There seems to be no comparable tool in Debian. As you can guess I have used SuSE/Mandrake/RedHat type distros for several years. I have no experience with Debian based systems. And -NO - Google didn't help. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IPV6
Hi Dean, Actually what I am getting is very long lookup times but the transfer rate, on downloads, is just fine. Ashley >-- Original Message -- >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:46:43 +1100 (EST) >Subject: Re: [SLUG] IPV6 >From: "Dean Hamstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: slug@slug.org.au > > >local dns problems will manifest themselves as failed look ups, long look >up times then normal transfer rates. > >if domain names are resolving properly they will be resolving to ipv4 >addresses and the stack will use the right protocol. > >check your network cable, switch/hub port and look at /var/log/messages >for error messages - it could also be your network card. > >Dean > >On Mon, November 27, 2006 11:24 pm, Ashley wrote: >> Hi All, >> My ADSL is as slow as dialup when searching for pages. even google >> takes 30-60 seconds to start to display. I know it's only 512k ADSL but >> I think there must be a problem as my daughter's XP machine displays all >> pages very quickly. >> My machine is an AMD64 3300+ running Ubuntu64 6.10 and my daughter's is >> a 1700 celeron with XP. >> I assumed the problem was DNS related but we both use the same DNS. The >> only thing I can see that is significantly different is the existance of >> ipV6 addresses >> How do I stop Ubuntu 6.10 trying to use ipV6. I've removed the addresses >> where I could find them, but still I get them displayed when I do an >> ifconfig. >> >> TIA >> Ashley >> -- >> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ >> Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html >> > Stay well & happy Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (no subject)
Hi Mike, Jeff helped me do exactly that at LCA. He used an intermediate distro as a first upgrade then went to etch. He told me that was the best way. Even then there were a few issues so I just bit the bullet and did a clean install using one of the Ubuntu 6.10 they were giving away at LCA on the open day. I wish you luck, but I believe a clean install is your best solution. Good luck Heracles Michael Lake wrote: Hi all Upgrading the wifes PC from an old Debian to etch using dist-upgrade has really busted it. xserver-xorg won't install as it depends on x11-common but that won't install as I get a dpkg "error processing xmem (--remove)" during the post removal script. I have tried also just 'apt-get -f install' and I get the same error. I have tried to remove xmem using dpkg --force-all and various other options to dpkg but it still wont work. At this stage I think I need to totally remove X11 stuff and reinstall it. Any help appreciated to recover from this. (Note box has no X and no media that I can used to copy error messages from that box to my laptop here so all errors have to be typed in! I also can't therefore copy and past errors into google.) Mike Lake -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Gnash or Flash
Hi, Since moving to my AMD64 based machine I have changed my Ubuntu to the 64 bit version. My problem is that I can no longer see flash in web pages. There appears to be no way to get a 64 bit flash 9 player or plugin and using nspluginwrapper -i (directory)/libflashplayer.so with either Flash 7 or 9 gets the same result: "nspluginwrapper: libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin" I have been able to install gnash as a stand alone but don't know how to install it as a plugin. I tried setting it as an external player but no luck. I have spent a great deal of time googling for an answer, but no useable result. Any clues would be appreciated. Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Firefox sux
Firefox for AMD64 has to be the worst piece of crap ever written; just use epiphany (if you run gnome) or konqueror (if you run KDE). I used to love firefox on my old system; it was fast and easy to use. The new version just uses up ALL my processor and memory as soon as it is started and brings the system to a standstill. I have to switch to a command line to stop it after which everything returns to normal. What happened to it between 1.5 and 2.0? My current version is 2.0.0.2 but the problem has existed since 2.0. I am now using epiphany and occasionally konqueror (without flash) and don't have the hassle. Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Dell Wireless
Hi all, A friend of mine has an HP laptop running Ubuntu 6.10 and is not certain how to set up the "Dell wireless 1470 dual band wlan (vendoe Broadcomm)" card in his machine. Ubuntu told him what it was so is it supported in Linux or just recognised? Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NVIDIA driver
I am now trying a 32bit system on my AMD64. All works well and many times faster than the 64bit version of ubuntu. The only glitch is the NVIDIA driver. I have a GeForce 6200 and when I install the proprietry driver I constantly get version mismatch on boot BUT (and here is the strange bit) if I start in console mode and run startx I get the NVIDIA screen flash up and then all works. Anyone have any ideas? Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NVIDIA driver
Thank-you Rich, that worked perfectly. I am now functional. Heracles Rich Buggy wrote: I had a similar problem. If performed an rmmod followed by a modprobe it loaded the binary drivers instead of the ones that shipped with Ubuntu. After wasting a lot of time I ended up simply removing the following so it couldn't find them. /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/nvidia_legacy.ko /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.17-11-generic/nvidia_legacy Make sure you keep the binary drivers from nVIDIA somewhere handy. When you upgrade the kernel you'll need to reinstall them and remove these files again. Rich On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 20:19 +1100, Heracles wrote: I am now trying a 32bit system on my AMD64. All works well and many times faster than the 64bit version of ubuntu. The only glitch is the NVIDIA driver. I have a GeForce 6200 and when I install the proprietry driver I constantly get version mismatch on boot BUT (and here is the strange bit) if I start in console mode and run startx I get the NVIDIA screen flash up and then all works. Anyone have any ideas? Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slight flickering on dual monitor set up
Hi Elliot, CRT monitors have a coil (which when powered up creates a strong magnetic field) around the edge of the tube to degauss them. The tubes also produce interesting magnetic fields when they are in operation. If they are placed too close together this can interfere with the operation of each of them -10cm is far too close. Try 30-40cm apart and it should solve the problem. If you need them to be close then get a couple of LCD monitors (17" about $190 each or so) which don't have this characteristic. Heracles elliott-brennan wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > The monitor screens are about 10cms apart and the rear about 30cm (they > sit at a slight angle to each other on the desktop). > > There are no other power cables crossing the video cables. Each of the > monitors is plugged into a separate power point. > > My original post was a little misleading. I do not get a flickering of > the monitors in synch or consecutively when opening mail. I meant it > occurs whether I open mail when the Thunderbird mail application is open > in either monitor. > > I'll keep experimenting though. > > I'm wondering too whether it is generally the case that the second > monitor in such set-ups works less well than the primary??? > > Regards, > > Patrick > > Ben Donohue wrote: >> Hi, >> I've had similar to this before... >> sometimes it power. You might try to plug them into the power in a >> different way. >> Ben >> >> >> elliott-brennan wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions or advice? >>> >>> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 on a Hyperthreaded 3Ghz P4 with 1.5G RAM. >>> >>> I have to 17" Philips monitors (107T5 - primary - and a 107S6 - >>> secondary) running off a 128Mb Nvidia FX5500 dual-head card. >>> >>> At times (e.g.. when I open mail from Thunderbird) I get a slight >>> flicker on the second monitor and similar on the primary monitor. >>> >>> I've tried various refresh frequencies, but to no avail. >>> >>> I've posted (below) my xorg.conf in case anyone has any suggestions >>> or can see something that I can't (highly likely :)). >>> >>> NB. I modified xorg.conf to show only 1024x768 as dual-display it >>> wouldn't play nice otherwise. >>> >>> Thanks for any assistance or advice offered. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) >>> # >>> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration >>> tool, using >>> # values from the debconf database. >>> # >>> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual >>> page. >>> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) >>> # >>> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades >>> *only* >>> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg >>> # package. >>> # >>> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically >>> updated >>> # again, run the following command: >>> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg >>> >>> Section "Files" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" >>> FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" >>> # path to defoma fonts >>> FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> Load "bitmap" >>> Load "ddc" >>> Load "extmod" >>> Load "freetype" >>> Load "int10" >>> Load "record" >>> Load "type1" >>> Load "vbe" >>> load "glx" >>> load "v4l" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Generic Keyboard" >>> Driver "kbd" >>> option "CoreKeyboard" >>> o
Re: [SLUG] Running Google Earth in Ubuntu
I changed my 9250 ATI for a 6200 G-Force Nvidia (less than $90 for the 256Mb model) and it runs well. I have it running in the background at this time. Not sure what is causing it to use so much CPU on your machine Ken. It does not take much CPU at all on mine. It is fast and smooth and has no effect on performance. So if you really want to run it and can't get the ATI running the way you want, an Nvidia is a cheap replacement. (BTW, easyubuntu will go and get the proprietary drivers and install them if you really must.) Heracles Ken Caldwell wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 06:05 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: >>> Google Earth probably needs to have direct rendering and 3D >>> capability, because it uses OpenGL to draw the textures and such. The >>> open source "ati" driver likely won't give you direct rendering on a >>> 9200 card, and you'll need to install the proprietary "fglrx" drivers >>> from ATI to get 3D support. There's a good howto on the Ubuntu wiki: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI >>> That documents how to install it from the repos or how to do it >>> manually. It doesn't have a guide specifically for Feisty, but it >>> should be a similar procedure. >> fglrx won't give you direct rendering on 9200 whatsoever.. they stopped >> supporting that card a long time ago.. >> >> the open source driver should support that card in feisty fine.. >> >> glxinfo should give direct rendering... does glxgears run? >> >> Does the system lockup completely? do you have any fancy AGP options >> enabled in the logs..? does adding Option "CardType" "PCI" to the >> driver section in xorg.conf make any difference? > > Attached is my xorg.conf file and a file glxinfo.txt containing the > output of glxinfo. glxgears runs slowly and jerkily unless the window is > small. > > The computer does not lock solid when I try to run googleearth but as > that program seems to take about 95% of the CPU time not much else > happens! > > I cant see mention of AGP in the xorg.conf file, in which log file > should I look. (As you have no doubt guessed my knowledge of video cards > is very limited.) > > cheers, > Ken > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] off topic but urgent hardware problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wild guesses... Either there is a simple problem with corrosion which can be fixed by removing and replacing the cards fitted to the motherboard. (unlikely but possible!) OR.. more likely your power supply has a problem and does not have enough kick on the +12 volt rail to start up the HDDs. (most likely) Unfortunately the friendly splash screens hide any startup messages and prevent you from seeing exactly where the post stopped. As for repairers - no idea sorry. HTH Heracles David wrote: > please excuse the off topic post but the need is urgent. > > I've just attempted to reboot and my ASUS P5P800mx motherboard doesn't get > past the splash screen. Can't enter the BIOS setup. No strange beeps. I'm > guessing that's serious. > > Any diagnostic suggestions? > > In case of need, any suggestions where to go to get urgent repairs? (city > area). > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGJ3OJybPcBAs9CE8RApevAJ9lbw8vRnf81k0/JQdNHOvPpKtQTQCfXFbj 2oBv1IcQ/BCsVqZJ2jl/myk= =AKZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HDD, new motherboard
Hi Scott, I did exactly that with Ubuntu 6.10 a little while back. I replaced a basic AMD 2400+ and MB with a 64 bit AMD 3300+ and had no problems at all. I used the same video card in both instances, so if you are also changing the video card you may have to reinstall your nvidia drivers (if it is an nvidia card and you use the proprietary drivers) but other than that all should be fine. Heracles Scott Waller wrote: Hi SLUG, I have a strange question. Background: Last week my father in-law was having computer problems (as usual), anyway, through a course of different problems; PSU and graphics card. The computer guy offered to replace the MB? Very strange, for FREE! After that he got it home, plugged it in and pop! another PSU, fried the MB and apparently the MB. So he now has a new: MB PSU Graphics Card TV Tuner Card My Father in law has a lot of software and important files that he really can't afford to loose or go through re-installing programs. The guy told him a story that in windoze XP you can not just put an old HDD onto a new MB? I offered to call the guy, as I had done this many times when I was a sys admin at my last place of work. So, I called the guy, and we exchanged in "professional dialogue" and things didn't turn out too well. Anyway, I have since found out that he was right! (I am eating humble pie..large portion) and find this absolutely ridiculous. Somy question is. What ever flavour Linux whether Ubuntu or Redhat or Fedora, will this be the same? Could I take the HDD (80 gig about 2 years old) out of my wife's desktop and install it into a brand new computer and still boot up? Thanks Scott Waller E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] M. F. W. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sound in Ubuntu
Hi, How do I tell Ubuntu to ignore the built in via sound card and use my Sound Blaster Live sound card. I can tell some programs to use it but flash and some others ignore it. Is there a way to tell ubuntu (7.0.4 btw) to completely ignore the via sound system? Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Firefox pausing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I have a small but annoying problem. I installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my daughter's machine (Celeron 1.7 G, 768Mb DDR333, 256Mb nVidia 6200 Compaq S720 screen) and all works OK except when she is on the net with Firefox it stalls from time to time. It never did this to her under XP so I don't see why it should do it under Linux. The only difference I can see is that X chose 1280x1024 as the native resolution. Any ideas appreciated. Note, she has two browser windows and amsn running. This is the same for both systems. TIA Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGluDnybPcBAs9CE8RAiFoAKDCxlhBa/zmLqAUlLrrSqRbMzL65ACglPuL ttrrMjd/af0A00u8egESYzc= =2MDm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox pausing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Simon, I'll check the cooling fans. She uses amsn and it seems to do everything she wants. The only problem is that the file browser is not configurable so she does not get thumbnails. Heracles Rev Simon Rumble wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Heracles wrote: > >> I have a small but annoying problem. I installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my >> daughter's machine (Celeron 1.7 G, 768Mb DDR333, 256Mb nVidia 6200 >> Compaq S720 screen) and all works OK except when she is on the net with >> Firefox it stalls from time to time. It never did this to her under XP >> so I don't see why it should do it under Linux. The only difference I >> can see is that X chose 1280x1024 as the native resolution. > > I've had weird pauses and lockups using the Skype Linux client (which I > sadly have to use to talk to work people). > >> Note, she has two browser windows and amsn running. This is the same for >> both systems. > > What client for MSN? I presume there's no "official" client for Linux. > > Also, pauses like this can sometimes indicate a cooling problem. Check > that the CPU fan is working. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGlvIKybPcBAs9CE8RAj4FAJjVgUCS+5k3YGFtFFU8DeL0vgwTAJ90Y2PA xp47Q0LS8814k6y1cNHwbQ== =DkXm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox pausing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Amos, Everything pauses, but if she kills Firefox then there are no further problems. I got her to move to Opera and the problem has gone away so I guess the problem is in Firefox. Not really sure why as it works fine on my machine using exactly the same version - except that my machine is a 64 bit athalon and hers is a 1.7GHz P4 style Celeron both running the 32 bit version of Feisty. Also, for those who commented on amsn, she agrees it is terrible, but she does not find gaim, kmsn or kopete any better. Any other ideas would be appreciated. Thanks Heracles Amos Shapira wrote: > On 13/07/07, Heracles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Compaq S720 screen) and all works OK except when she is on the net with >> Firefox it stalls from time to time. It never did this to her under XP > > > What exactly do you mean by "stalls"? The Firefox network traffic or the > entire X display? > > --Amos -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGmf0/ybPcBAs9CE8RAhFYAJ4j4NDatLsUPcG/rp0jMoT4hAz1HwCeP1AW lFiM3NCt1QJrJzDsK6meSjE= =veOZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox pausing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steven, She gets thumbnails in Nautilus. amsn uses its own file browser which has no configuration menu that I can find. If amsn can be configured to use an outside browser, how do I tell it to do so? Heracles Steven Tucker wrote: > On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 13:31 +1000, Heracles wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Thanks Simon, >> I'll check the cooling fans. >> She uses amsn and it seems to do everything she wants. The only problem >> is that the file browser is not configurable so she does not get thumbnails. > > ? > Why cant she get thumbnails? I do! > Try opening nautilus and going to > > Edit ---> preferences --> preview > > Here you can tell it to show thumbnails for files. > > If you want things like .wmv files to have previews you need to have the > codecs for totem to play them. > > Also remember that Gnu/Linux is the definition of customization, and any > claims that another less free operating system is more configurable > always comes back to knowledge of the user, and not the system. > > Tuxta > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGmf7mybPcBAs9CE8RArMlAJ9fDR0He/id/ZLCKmMCIkfvbrBe0QCgn7rn QBHeoe3Jh5UpqZ8Hd0Z0HLo= =ROZf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Why not just install the 32bit version of Ubuntu and leave it at that. I have an Athalon 64 bit system recognised by Ubuntu as such but due to the unavailability of 64 bit Flash etc. I wiped the 64bit system and installed 32bit. It runs much faster and works well. Heracles Amos Shapira wrote: > On 23/07/07, Darren Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Snip > > Makes me wonder why all the amd64 Debian documents keep talking about the > need to have a chroot for 32 bit instead of just installing 32-bit > libraries. Could they be just too lazy to provide full set of 32-bit > packages for the amd64 arch? > > With the 32 bit libraries installed, 32 bit programs should run as >> normal. I have Google Earth and it runs perfectly. I have proprietary >> games (Quake IV, Doom 3, Neverwinter Nights, all 32 bit only) and they >> run just fine. I have Cedega (to run windows games (all 32 bit)) and it >> runs... adequately. I have not tried Skype. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGpb64ybPcBAs9CE8RAlYMAKCmm/6D+XOBM258CBLGY9VLGR8DDACfZEbQ Yl+7Ed0lHcw8dZMqAoGT1fI= =mZgv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Networking dropouts on Bigpond cable.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ken, Doesn't Bigpond require a heartbeat? I seem to remember something like bpalogin being required for a reliable connection to their cable internet. Heracles Ken Caldwell wrote: > Can anyone explain the what is going on here? > I recently built my son a new computer running Ubuntu 7.04. He connects > to the internet via Bigpond cable. The cable modem feeds a router and > the computer connects to the router via ethernet. (Also tried connecting > without the router) > Connection to the internet is established OK but sometimes drops out > every few minutes and reconnects itself. > I have a copy of the daemon.log but find it confusing. I have not > attached it to this email as it is about 400kBytes. If any knowledgeable > kind soul would care to take a look I will forward a copy but didn't > want to burden the whole list. > > cheers, > Ken > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGpeU9ybPcBAs9CE8RAqlLAKCl4cGZMAUhuwRHVce4vWsyAAvu3ACeOcXV XkO40Zst/P9hIRfMRV7jFWw= =QH5L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Audio skipping on Ubuntu kernels
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have only 1GB of RAM and a 2GB swap. My scaling governor is set to ondemand and I don't have a problem with audio (playing oggs on vlc) skipping with disk IO and ftp happening simultaneously. My kernel is 2.6.20-16-generic on Ubuntu 7.04. Do the files work properly when they are the only thing running? Heracles Scott Ragen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/08/2007 03:05:49 PM: > >> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:31 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: >>> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 13:27 +1000, James Gregory wrote: >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> I've found that playback of music on my laptop has this horrible, >>>> horrible tendency to "skip" (by which I mean that the music stops > for >>>> some fraction of a second) extremely frequently. This has only been >>>> occurring since Ubuntu's -generic kernels came in (I forget which >>>> version that was). >>> I'd check your disk is using dma; PIO disk IO is a great way to turn >>> your laptop into a snail. > This might be way off, but I had intermittant freezing problems with the > kernel using cpufreq ondemand governor. > To see what govenor is used, try > # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor > > Try setting it to performance if its anything but. > > Cheers, > > Scott -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsCjGybPcBAs9CE8RAuAlAJ44ekwfknXuKJILulihZb0ba4Q2XQCeOEel v28dsgvXNLE6KQWboZ7bwcQ= =BcJt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home Linux Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, A simple Dual core intel or Athalon x2 core duo with about 2GB RAM should be fine. You can pick one up from Westgate Technology without the HDDs and monitor for about $350. 320GB SATA HDDs are $110 ea. and since it is only a server you can either maintain it from your workstation or throw on a cheap monitor if you prefer. Westgate are near the Family Hotel at Rydlemare. They also can be found at Muirfield High, North Rocks on a Sunday. Heracles Stephen Black wrote: > I need a home Linux server to act as a > 1. Proxy Server > 2. Web Server (For Web development only) > 3. Proxy Mail Server > 5. Print Server (Needing a USB 2.0 ports) > 6. File Server > 7. IP Tables firewall > > Does anybody have any ideas as what would make a good Linux server and > where such a computer could be obtained for a reasonable price? > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsqvIybPcBAs9CE8RArOjAJ9/qMQKji7o9z2013C8kGa4RfyFOwCfR72L Or6DcwJ10U2RmAuQanBOpQc= =Kci0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Starting up problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Sometimes when I start my Ubuntu 7.04 box I get an annoying problem - it doesn't. If when it is starting up it has to check a disk (more than 20 mounts etc) it goes through all of the usual startup then fails at the point where the Nvidia logo should flash. At this point the keyboard is locked out so turn off and restart is the only option (hard reset using just goes through the motions and gets back to the same point). I also noticed that it always has the message: > Aug 6 15:01:57 heracles kernel: [ 47.173023] codec_read: codec 0 is not > valid [0xfe] > Aug 6 15:01:57 heracles kernel: [ 47.179510] codec_read: codec 0 is not > valid [0xfe] > Aug 6 15:01:57 heracles kernel: [ 47.186030] codec_read: codec 0 is not > valid [0xfe0000] > Aug 6 15:01:57 heracles kernel: [ 47.192507] codec_read: codec 0 is not > valid [0xfe] I' using the binary drivers for my GeForce nVidia 6200 card. This problem with startup occurs infrequently but I suspect that the binary nVidia drivers may be the reason for both the problem and kernel log entry I've included. Any clues appreciated. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGunJkybPcBAs9CE8RAkm5AKC2RJZeaHxCcEkvJ2DjtyTV+7lZ4wCeJEnA QDUkZlIFfoN0uWe3cPgLoHE= =AvdW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] I've stuffed up my display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Howard, I would check that the video card is not set incorrectly. Doesn't Fedora still have a text mode version of xconfigurator? Heracles Howard Lowndes wrote: > My environment is Fedora 6 with KDE and I went to change the display > resolution using system-config-display. > > The display is set to generic LCD 800x600 but it will only permit 640x480. > > I've tried editting /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that does appear to get me > anywhere. > > Where else should I be looking, even to get it to recognise the original > display which is a CMV 1280x??? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGu62IybPcBAs9CE8RAq3TAKCp31R5l2nbpvPs5SON6G8h0IrS7gCggdoa PryFX+nivmAWtLoDsuvLHbA= =UL9r -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
