RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
-Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 AM To: Minh Van Le Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? Yes I have, Netgear FA310's (PCI), 3com 905's(PCI) or old 3com 509's (ISA) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? Yup, 3 * ne2000, 4 * wd 8003 and 3 * eepro100. All with no dramas (as you'd expect with linux - the I/O babel fish). Cheers -RodT -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Regularly. If you are using any ISA cards I have found it useful to list them in lilo.conf As for PCI they are usually allocated in their order down the bus, usually starting nearest the CPU On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Fox, Michael wrote: -Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 AM To: Minh Van Le Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Minh Van Le wrote: Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? Yes I have, Netgear FA310's (PCI), 3com 905's(PCI) or old 3com 509's (ISA) -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Bernhard Luder was once rumoured to have said: RTL8139 (10/100) works fine as well and costs less than $20 each. For values of fine implying low-performance. The PCI SMC cards that telstra give away with Bigpond Advance are RTL8139s. My experience has been that they do not handle heavy load too well - IMO they're not suitable for high-performance/high-demand environments running at 100Mps. You're better off tracking down a Netgear FA-310TX, or spending the extra money on a 3Com Etherlink XL (3c905 family) or Intel EtherExpress Pro 100. I personally use FA-310TXs and Etherlink XLs - Etherlink XLs tend to be plentiful and you can usually purchase them fairly cheaply second hand. The Etherlink XL is also supported by practically everything (I bought my Etherlink XLs because BeOS supported it, whereas it didn't support my Etherlink III [3c509]). The FA-310TX on the other hand was unbeatable value when Netgear was still producing them - especially at ~AUD$40 for a new card. My only RTL8139 in active duty is going to be replaced with a 3c905C when I get around to it. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? I'm trying to make a decision between possibly having 3 or 4 10mbit RealTek PCI nics (at $20 each), or purchasing the D-Link 4-Port PCIBUS 10/100 NIC DFE-570TX ($499.70AUD at everythinglinux.com.au). To go on a Celeron 850, 64mb ram, 20gb disk, Redhat 6.2 server. The ADSL will be connected to one of the interfaces. As yet, there is probably no real need for multiple dedicated bandwidths running at full duplex, with load sharing functions to handle heavy network traffic (D-Link DFE-570TX), and I can't foresee the system loads on the server hosting web, ftp, irc etc getting very high at this stage. If I can afford to save a couple of hundred dollars, I will. Is there any hardware traps I should look for (eg. onboard/offboard mainboards) that prohibits 3 or 4 regular nics to be used under Linux ? Is there a particular brand/type of mainboard/nic combo I should get ? Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? It seems to me that OEM labeled hardware are cheaper than Retail labeled hardware. The retail FA310 are $50.80, and OEM are $35.00 as advertised from everythinglinux.com.au. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
quote who=Minh Van Le Is there any hardware traps I should look for (eg. onboard/offboard mainboards) that prohibits 3 or 4 regular nics to be used under Linux ? Is there a particular brand/type of mainboard/nic combo I should get ? Plug them in, and they'll work. You'll only be caught out if you have a dodgy motherboard with too many onboard devices (for any kind of server, integrated is a bad idea). Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? Get Intel EtherExpress cards or Tulips (chipset, not brand). What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? You don't get pretty manuals, and seldom disks. - Jeff -- In addition to these ample facilities, there exists a powerful configuration tool called gcc. - Elliot Hughes, author of lwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? Get Intel EtherExpress cards or Tulips (chipset, not brand). Netgear 10/100's work well in linux. What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? You don't get pretty manuals, and seldom disks. ...which are usually totally useless in linux and youll just toss them in the recycling anyway. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
I'm running 2 Realtek 8029 and 1 Tulip card and worked great in the old P100 system and when moved to the new system I had problems with 1 of the 8029 cards having weird conflicts. Though I would still use them anyway, I've heard people make comments about Realtek cards being bad but I've never had problems until now (and it's probbly because I'm using the same HDD from the old machine moved to the new one.. so you'd expect some trouble) -Original Message- From: Dean Hamstead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2001 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? Get Intel EtherExpress cards or Tulips (chipset, not brand). Netgear 10/100's work well in linux. What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? You don't get pretty manuals, and seldom disks. ...which are usually totally useless in linux and youll just toss them in the recycling anyway. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
George Vieira wrote: I'm running 2 Realtek 8029 and 1 Tulip card and worked great in the old P100 system and when moved to the new system I had problems with 1 of the 8029 cards having weird conflicts. Probably just an irq conflict or maybe shared pci/isa slot blues. Though I would still use them anyway, I've heard people make comments about Realtek cards being bad but I've never had problems until now (and it's probbly because I'm using the same HDD from the old machine moved to the new one.. so you'd expect some trouble) For thr $10-15 youll pay for a Realtek card youll get a connection to an ethernet network. The calibre of the connection is almost totally random but is generally very average. Although the 8029as (the 10mb pci card) isnt a bad little 10 meg card. I would recommend it for anyone who just wants to get some print or internet sharing going. Its big brother the 8139 (10/100mb) is pretty below standard. Ive only seen transfers of 1.5mb/sec (8139-8139 and 8139-various), on most other cards and combinations ive seen speeds approaching the theoretical max of a 100mb segment (6 or 7 mb/sec is what i consider normal). The only cards ive had more problems with than realteks are dlinks. That said they work ok when they are working, eg normal transfers etc. im running alot of netgear fx310 (something like that) which are tulip based, then new 311 card use a different chip which is supported in the kernel but i dont know if your dists standard kernel ships with it compiled. Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 08:16, Dean Hamstead wrote: Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? Get Intel EtherExpress cards or Tulips (chipset, not brand). Tulips are nice cards, but apparently they don't do the funky zero-copy on write stuff that makes transfers between NICs so blisteringly fast. Netgear 10/100's work well in linux. Indeed, but see tulip stuff above. Somebody please correct me, so I feel much happier about my FA310s. You don't get pretty manuals, and seldom disks. ...which are usually totally useless in linux and youll just toss them in the recycling anyway. The driver disk for the 310s, and maybe other Netgear cards, come with a modified tulip.c. This was required to make the card work in the kernel I first tried it in (2.2.teen), but the changes have been rolled back into the current kernels. So yeah. If you buy the retail box, don't be fooled. The kernel driver is the much newer, and the supplied driver won't work at all in 2.4. Cheers, -- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux
RTL8139 (10/100) works fine as well and costs less than $20 each. Bernhard Luder This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Minh Van Le Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2001 03:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Multiple NICS under Linux Has anybody configured 3 or 4 nics to work under Linux ? I'm trying to make a decision between possibly having 3 or 4 10mbit RealTek PCI nics (at $20 each), or purchasing the D-Link 4-Port PCIBUS 10/100 NIC DFE-570TX ($499.70AUD at everythinglinux.com.au). To go on a Celeron 850, 64mb ram, 20gb disk, Redhat 6.2 server. The ADSL will be connected to one of the interfaces. As yet, there is probably no real need for multiple dedicated bandwidths running at full duplex, with load sharing functions to handle heavy network traffic (D-Link DFE-570TX), and I can't foresee the system loads on the server hosting web, ftp, irc etc getting very high at this stage. If I can afford to save a couple of hundred dollars, I will. Is there any hardware traps I should look for (eg. onboard/offboard mainboards) that prohibits 3 or 4 regular nics to be used under Linux ? Is there a particular brand/type of mainboard/nic combo I should get ? Also afaik there're problems with the NetGear FA311s with 2.4.x ? and people have suggested use of FA310s instead. Is this true ? What's the difference between OEM and Retail pricing ? It seems to me that OEM labeled hardware are cheaper than Retail labeled hardware. The retail FA310 are $50.80, and OEM are $35.00 as advertised from everythinglinux.com.au. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
