RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-05 Thread Jon Biddell

At 11:51 AM 5/02/01 +1100, David Kempe wrote:
  How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :)

yaya voting thingy!

Seconded - the voting things, that is


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[SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Rodos

Just to throw another controversial topic onto the new mailing list debate.

Could we get a slug-chat or slug-social list if we do end up creating another
one?

We can move some of the banter off slug and onto slug-chat. I would love to
have a list were I could post general computer or chat type stuff. Yes there
are news groups and other mailing lists, but to me SLUG is a community and I
want to sit in the local coffee shop to chat, not have to go into the city
where I don't know anyone and they don't necessarily have the same frame of
reference that I do.

Just a thought.

Rodos


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="Rodos"

 Just to throw another controversial topic onto the new mailing list
 debate.

Go on then, complicate the issue! ;)

 Could we get a slug-chat or slug-social list if we do end up creating
 another one?

This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of
half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed
with that for a long time, but... ;)

I've been chatting to a couple of ILUG people, to find out how they deal
with these kinds of things, and they reckon that their social list has made
the main Linux discussion list heaps better.

I reckon if we created the list, knowing full well that it was going to be a
big mess of craziness, and that a reasonable number of people would join
anyway, it would work. The only little annoying thing would be when
something is posted to the inappropriate list... But we can deal with that.

Rodos - I guess it has to keep coming up until we try it, hey?

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Rodos

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of
 half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I certainly agreed
 with that for a long time, but... ;)

I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With slug-chat I am
suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I think it can
only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing that moves
there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one.

Rodos


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Howard Lowndes

I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why
SLUG should not be fragmented.

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Rodos wrote:

 ... but to me SLUG is a community and I
 want to sit in the local coffee shop to chat, not have to go into the city
 where I don't know anyone and they don't necessarily have the same frame of
 reference that I do.


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RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread David Kempe


 On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:

  This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up, we've kind of
  half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I
 certainly agreed
  with that for a long time, but... ;)

 I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With slug-chat I am
 suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I
 think it can
 only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing
 that moves
 there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one.

I'd be a fan for that. I know alot of people on this list share not only
linux interests. It would be good. Would probably enhance the meetings if we
can get stronger social bonds between the members.

Dave


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RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Alister Waller

How about a SLUG-NEW-LISTS-DEBATE list...so we don't have to watch this
thread.

alister


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 Subject: RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.


 
  On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 
   This is a funny one - almost every time this has come up,
 we've kind of
   half agreed not to, because of the list splitting aspect. I
  certainly agreed
   with that for a long time, but... ;)
 
  I have always been reserved about splitting the list. With
 slug-chat I am
  suggesting a new list, not a split, its for banter and crap. I
  think it can
  only enhance the main list, not distract from it. The only thing
  that moves
  there is stuff which caused a flame war or beer posts on the old one.

 I'd be a fan for that. I know alot of people on this list share not only
 linux interests. It would be good. Would probably enhance the
 meetings if we
 can get stronger social bonds between the members.

 Dave


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="Howard Lowndes"

 I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why
 SLUG should not be fragmented.

Trouble is, we have a pretty heavy list already, and all the time people are
getting more and more annoyed with the casual fun stuff (the bits they think
are a waste of time, whilst others might enjoy them).

How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :)

- Jeff


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RE: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread David Kempe

 How about we put a voting thingy on the website? :)

yaya voting thingy!

dave

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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Crossfire

Jeff Waugh was once rumoured to have said:
 quote who="Howard Lowndes"
 
  I agree with this sentiment, but see this as being the precise reason why
  SLUG should not be fragmented.
 
 Trouble is, we have a pretty heavy list already, and all the time people are
 getting more and more annoyed with the casual fun stuff (the bits they think
 are a waste of time, whilst others might enjoy them).

proposal

Solution: We don't split the list, we standardise [and stick to]
message tagging.

If you're posting socially, then make sure you have a [social] in your
subject.  etc.

The same goes for Newbie, etc.

This is *REALLY* easy to filter in procmail and M$ products with
message filtering.

That way everybody gets the traffic, everybody can read it, and those
who don't care can filter those threads into /dev/null with three
lines in a .procmailrc.

/proposal

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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Howard Lowndes

The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware
of this protocol.

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Crossfire wrote:


 The same goes for Newbie, etc.

 This is *REALLY* easy to filter in procmail and M$ products with
 message filtering.


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="Howard Lowndes"

 The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware
 of this protocol.

Dare I say "56K"?

Two lists gives you a choice in that regard too. *shrug*

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Crossfire

Howard Lowndes was once rumoured to have said:
 The only downside to this is that the newbie will most likely be unaware
 of this protocol.

Document it with along with the "Before you post to this list" notes.

Also, people would probably implicitly pick up on it with sufficent
traffic running through the list.

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Re: [SLUG] On the topic of new lists.

2001-02-04 Thread Matthew Dalton

Crossfire wrote:
 proposal
 
 If you're posting socially, then make sure you have a [social] in your
 subject.  etc.

[snip]

 
 /proposal

better proposal

Make a slug-social or slug-chat mail address that shares a common
subscriber's list with [EMAIL PROTECTED], so the same people get sent the
messages, but have the server prepend [social] to the subject of the
messages.

/better proposal

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