Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
I had consider that - my plan is to actually train myself to be vendor-neutral i.e. familiarise myself with the major distros RHEL, Suze, Ubuntu so that I can administer them all, but to add the RHEL specialisation on top of that, mainly because RHEL is apparently viewed as Number 1 - but I think somebody who can only make a single distro work is pretty useless. I think Red Hat certification will inevitably include a degree of advertising/brainwashing to try to get people to do things there way purely to differentiate their brand, but I'm old enough to see through Fudd. How do employers view this - do they assume that serious admins make sure they are familiar with multiple distroes, and see RHEL certification as a bonus (i..e. the person knows More), or do they assume that Red Hat cert means a person knows Less ? thanks Rod On 05/01/11 12:22, onlyjob wrote: Why Get a Vendor/Distribution *Neutral* Linux Certification? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGjgdYB1vI -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
I did my RHCE last year, I did RH253 (Networking and Admin) and RH302 (RHCE exam) for which I paid for out of my own pocket (about $4,000 all up). If you have good experience with Linux (whichever distro), its only a matter of learning how do things the RH specific way and you'll get through the exam fairly easily. It did help to land me a job (in a Ubuntu shop!) and certification will allow perspective employers to see that you have a particular level of knowledge of Linux. My experience with dealing RedHat was very positive, they were very helpful throughout the process. I believe for me it was worth doing as it gave me 'the edge'. cheers Darrin. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Rod Butcher rbutc...@hyenainternet.comwrote: I had consider that - my plan is to actually train myself to be vendor-neutral i.e. familiarise myself with the major distros RHEL, Suze, Ubuntu so that I can administer them all, but to add the RHEL specialisation on top of that, mainly because RHEL is apparently viewed as Number 1 - but I think somebody who can only make a single distro work is pretty useless. I think Red Hat certification will inevitably include a degree of advertising/brainwashing to try to get people to do things there way purely to differentiate their brand, but I'm old enough to see through Fudd. How do employers view this - do they assume that serious admins make sure they are familiar with multiple distroes, and see RHEL certification as a bonus (i..e. the person knows More), or do they assume that Red Hat cert means a person knows Less ? thanks Rod On 05/01/11 12:22, onlyjob wrote: Why Get a Vendor/Distribution *Neutral* Linux Certification? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGjgdYB1vI -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
Why Get a Vendor/Distribution *Neutral* Linux Certification? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGjgdYB1vI -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
Hi, Rod. You may find this lopsa-discuss thread of use: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.lopsa.org/msg00097.html Good luck with your career! Aleksey (Unix/Linux sys admin) On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Rod Butcher rbutc...@hyenainternet.com wrote: I have a background in mainframe computer programming on IBM systems but want to move out of programming into Linux support. I've rolled my own linux kernnal apps for a few years and have a fair idea of how Linux works, but only in a home-use environment. So - I'm considering getting some proper qualifications and am considering couses : Red Hat System Adminstrator + Network Security Adminstration + Certified Engineer. Total cost = $AU 9100. Any opinions out there about how good an approcah this is - can I get a better return on my retraining investment ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
Youll find that there is ample information on the internet to be able to study the RH exams without paying thousands on a training course. You may also find it more cost effective to sit the exam, then go away and study, then sit it again. Each exam sitting costing the (ridiculous) cost of about $600. Which is still cheaper to sit it twice rather than go to a training course. of course, ymmv. Dean On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Rod Butcher rbutc...@hyenainternet.com wrote: I have a background in mainframe computer programming on IBM systems but want to move out of programming into Linux support. I've rolled my own linux kernnal apps for a few years and have a fair idea of how Linux works, but only in a home-use environment. So - I'm considering getting some proper qualifications and am considering couses : Red Hat System Adminstrator + Network Security Adminstration + Certified Engineer. Total cost = $AU 9100. Any opinions out there about how good an approcah this is - can I get a better return on my retraining investment ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
Hi There are other certification bodies such as LPI. The course are cheaper and done through tafe I think. You may get more mileage with experience rather than courses. Try to get as much hands on as possible by volunteering, being mentored, talking. Chat to your local friendly sysadmin :-) Having a development background and experience is always a plus. Don't discount it. Some organisations will train you up once you join especially when you are cross training eg going from solaris to RH That being said puts his own RHCE hat on, they are generally very good hands on courses. just make sure you match you ability to the pace of the cource. Even if you get the *NEW* Redhat Certified Systems Administrator replaces RHCT, you can at least say your certified HTH On 04/01/11 10:04, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: Hi, Rod. You may find this lopsa-discuss thread of use: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.lopsa.org/msg00097.html Good luck with your career! Aleksey (Unix/Linux sys admin) On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Rod Butcher rbutc...@hyenainternet.com wrote: I have a background in mainframe computer programming on IBM systems but want to move out of programming into Linux support. I've rolled my own linux kernnal apps for a few years and have a fair idea of how Linux works, but only in a home-use environment. So - I'm considering getting some proper qualifications and am considering couses : Red Hat System Adminstrator + Network Security Adminstration + Certified Engineer. Total cost = $AU 9100. Any opinions out there about how good an approcah this is - can I get a better return on my retraining investment ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
Thanks for the feedback folks. My attitude is what one of the posts in the lopsa discussion thread referred to : Actually I can't recall an interview where someone said, I have little experience but I hope these certs will give me a chance to earn that experience. I want to use the cert to get an entry-level position, and build on it from there. Is this a reasonable battle-plan ? Sercond - I agree the official RedHat courses are expensive and am looking around for cheaper alternatives for acquiring the knowhow to pass the RedHat test. I can walk into Dymocks etc and get MCSE selfstudy courses 6 inches thick, is similar for REDHAT available ? thanks Rod On 04/01/11 10:04, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: Hi, Rod. You may find this lopsa-discuss thread of use: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.lopsa.org/msg00097.html Good luck with your career! Aleksey (Unix/Linux sys admin) On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Rod Butcher rbutc...@hyenainternet.com wrote: I have a background in mainframe computer programming on IBM systems but want to move out of programming into Linux support. I've rolled my own linux kernnal apps for a few years and have a fair idea of how Linux works, but only in a home-use environment. So - I'm considering getting some proper qualifications and am considering couses : Red Hat System Adminstrator + Network Security Adminstration + Certified Engineer. Total cost = $AU 9100. Any opinions out there about how good an approcah this is - can I get a better return on my retraining investment ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Value of Red Hat certification ?
I have a background in mainframe computer programming on IBM systems but want to move out of programming into Linux support. I've rolled my own linux kernnal apps for a few years and have a fair idea of how Linux works, but only in a home-use environment. So - I'm considering getting some proper qualifications and am considering couses : Red Hat System Adminstrator + Network Security Adminstration + Certified Engineer. Total cost = $AU 9100. Any opinions out there about how good an approcah this is - can I get a better return on my retraining investment ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
