Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable modem and any old DHCP client?
This one time, at band camp, Barrie Hall wrote: Does anyone have experience with BigPond cable? Specifically, is it possible to use the SB-5101 modem and plug in a DHCP-client wireless router on the ethernet side, or does BigPond still require a custom login tool running on the client? You no longer require any type of login/heartbeat client to connect to BP Cable. Thansk all three of you. I figured as much about heartbeat from the whirpool pages, and thanks for clarifying the DHCP situation too. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] bigpond cable modem and any old DHCP client?
Hello list! Does anyone have experience with BigPond cable? Specifically, is it possible to use the SB-5101 modem and plug in a DHCP-client wireless router on the ethernet side, or does BigPond still require a custom login tool running on the client? The whirlpool forums are fuzzy at best, and I'd like to know if anyone can give a definitive yes that will work versus no, that won't. Why? It might be cheaper to use an existing wireless router, or easier to maintain a linux PC as a router, than purchase the all-in-one SBG-900 cable modem + wireless router with a new plan. Thanks! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable modem and any old DHCP client?
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 09:11:08PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: Hello list! Does anyone have experience with BigPond cable? Specifically, is it possible to use the SB-5101 modem and plug in a DHCP-client wireless router on the ethernet side, or does BigPond still require a custom login tool running on the client? I have a cable modem and a normal linux box running just dhcpd (with out the old bigpond login client), but you need to be on the new billing system The whirlpool forums are fuzzy at best, and I'd like to know if anyone can give a definitive yes that will work versus no, that won't. Why? It might be cheaper to use an existing wireless router, or easier to maintain a linux PC as a router, than purchase the all-in-one SBG-900 cable modem + wireless router with a new plan. Thanks! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Joe, I don't do nuance. - George W. Bush 02/15/2004 to Sen. Joseph Biden, as quoted in Time signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable modem and any old DHCP client?
On Feb 4, 2008 9:11 PM, Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list! Does anyone have experience with BigPond cable? Specifically, is it possible to use the SB-5101 modem and plug in a DHCP-client wireless router on the ethernet side, or does BigPond still require a custom login tool running on the client? some connections still require a login that sends the heartbeat, most have been migrated to a new system that doesn't. Most routers support Bigpond and will advertise support for BPA, Bigpond, or Heartbeat. Make sure you restart the modem after plugging in the router as I think it's like Optus where it locks onto the first MAC address it sees on the LAN side -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable modem and any old DHCP client?
Does anyone have experience with BigPond cable? Specifically, is it possible to use the SB-5101 modem and plug in a DHCP-client wireless router on the ethernet side, or does BigPond still require a custom login tool running on the client? You no longer require any type of login/heartbeat client to connect to BP Cable. Cheers, Barrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:03:57PM +1000, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless FWIW, I set up a WRT54G with bigpond cable and a heartbeat signal last week. It was a snap since it was a menu option in the WRT54G - apparently the version 2 model works well, earlier versions need a firmware upgrade. A nice page on the subject: http://www.ozcableguy.com/linksys1.html#wrt54g I forget where I read it, but you should be careful not to change the ping interval to zero, since apparently it goes into an infinite reboot loop ... Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Hi Del, Just a followup. The dhcp client worked! The problem seemed to be that he had all sorts of other bits of attempted configuration in there. Once he reset and tried dhcp it worked OK. I guess this means that Bigpond has altered their setup to be more open standards friendly..? If it's of interest, I'll get his setup info for future reference. Thanks for replying Del. Stuart On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 15:56, Del wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless I'm going to answer this by saying that I'm reasonably sure it can't be done. Bigpond cable require a proprietary connection protocol that is not pptp, is not pppoe, and requires a specific login program that they only provide for Windows and MacOS. You can get an unsupported one for Linux called bpalogin but I'm not even going to hazard a guess about how you'd go about installing that on a WRT054G. http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/ -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
On 08/02/04 16:30, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Hi Del, Just a followup. The dhcp client worked! The problem seemed to be that he had all sorts of other bits of attempted configuration in there. Once he reset and tried dhcp it worked OK. I guess this means that Bigpond has altered their setup to be more open standards friendly..? If it's of interest, I'll get his setup info for future reference. Thanks for replying Del. Stuart On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 15:56, Del wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless I'm going to answer this by saying that I'm reasonably sure it can't be done. Bigpond cable require a proprietary connection protocol that is not pptp, is not pppoe, and requires a specific login program that they only provide for Windows and MacOS. For what it's worth, yes, Telstra saw the light and are gradually phasing out the proprietary heartbeat stuff. New connections are straight DOCSIS, and existing connections are being moved over to the new network. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
quote who=Del You can get an unsupported one for Linux called bpalogin but I'm not even going to hazard a guess about how you'd go about installing that on a WRT054G. The WRT54G actually supports it, as do most of the third party firmware projects based on the Linksys (Broadcom) source. - Jeff -- What's all that about? http://www.no-name-yet.com/ I've been thinking: I get way too many pieces of e-mail, about 60 a day. - Microserfs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Del wrote: You can get an unsupported one for Linux called bpalogin but I'm not even going to hazard a guess about how you'd go about installing that on a WRT054G. you wouldn't have to if you did a portforward on the relevant port (5050 i think) and ran the client on the workstation. this is aside from the other better suggestions so far of course dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Stuart Guthrie wrote: Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless I'm going to answer this by saying that I'm reasonably sure it can't be done. Bigpond cable require a proprietary connection protocol that is not pptp, is not pppoe, and requires a specific login program that they only provide for Windows and MacOS. You can get an unsupported one for Linux called bpalogin but I'm not even going to hazard a guess about how you'd go about installing that on a WRT054G. http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/ -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] bigpond cable.
Hi Sluggers, Got a problem with Bpalogin. I've tried it on, RH8.0, 9.0 + Mandrake 9 + 9.1 and it doesn't work. It seems to work ok on Mandrake 8.0 though and I think RH 7.3. I'm not sure what the changes are that screwed with its functionallity but it certainly isn't working properly in the newer versions of both. I have been to the bpalogin sourceforge site and a few people seem to have to same problem but there seem to be only half ar$ed answers there and they really don't help much. I do get a DHCP assigned IP from bigpond and I ping the dce-server, I can also ftp to the update-server (I think that's what it's called), or wherever you download the utilities from. But Bpalogin still doesn't work. I've got it working by going into windows and logging in, writing down the IP I was assigned, rebooting into Linux and manually assigning that IP to the eth device, and finally using Bids2login. This works ok in RH 9.0, but it is a PAIN in the ar$e, and I don't want to see those bloody multicoloured, wavey four squares any more than I have to. Also, bids2login doesn't seem to work in Mandrake 9.1 for some reason. It comes up with a "reslov" error or something like that... Anyone had any luck fixing this? Would appreciate the help, so I can log back on to that rip-off of an ISP in Linux again! Thanks, Mal -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:41, Malik Jayawardena wrote: Hi Sluggers, Got a problem with Bpalogin. I've tried it on, RH8.0, 9.0 + Mandrake 9 + 9.1 and it doesn't work. It seems to work ok on Mandrake 8.0 though and I think RH 7.3. I'm not sure what the changes are that screwed with its functionallity but it certainly isn't working properly in the newer versions of both. I have been to the bpalogin sourceforge site and a few people seem to have to same problem but there seem to be only half ar$ed answers there and they really don't help much. Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've disabled the firewall in both Mandrake and Red Hat, but to no avail. I'll try the suggestions in that link, but I'm pretty sure I've been through most of the stuff on the sourceforge site. Does anyone know what happens during login? I.e. what bpalogin/bids2login actually does?? Tony Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable.
Nope. Will give that a go thanks.. Declan Ingram wrote: have you tried running a tcpdump -X, it will show you in ASCII exactly what is transversing the network. (man tcpdump and fiddle some args so that you get the best filter) On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 04:01, Malik Jayawardena wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've disabled the firewall in both Mandrake and Red Hat, but to no avail. I'll try the suggestions in that link, but I'm pretty sure I've been through most of the stuff on the sourceforge site. Does anyone know what happens during login? I.e. what bpalogin/bids2login actually does?? Tony Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 13:34, Tony Green wrote: Google seems to think it's a known problem : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=713082group_id=19555atid=219555 Mandrake comes with a built in firewall that is most likely dropping the heartbeat, go into the mandrake control center and have a poke at the security settings, you want to allow your dce-server to access port 5050, and set the same in /etc/bpalogin.conf. -- Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- businessCard Malik Jayawardena Motion Capture Technical Director ANIMAL LOGIC FiLM - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61 2 9662 7498 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] bigpond cable dhcp question
Hi there... I saw your email in an archive from May 2000 on www.progsoc.uts.edu.au... I'm trying to set up my DHCP client to work with the Bigpond network, and I was wondering if you could shed any light on the config? I'm using dhclient btw :) Thanks very much, Addam
Re: [SLUG] bigpond cable dhcp question
* This one time, at band camp, Addam Breen said: Hi there... I saw your email in an archive from May 2000 on www.progsoc.uts.edu.au... I'm trying to set up my DHCP client to work with the Bigpond network, and I was wondering if you could shed any light on the config? I'm using dhclient btw :) Thanks very much, Addam Addam, Welcome to the SLUG (Sydney Linux User Group) Mailing list (http://www.slug.org.au). You might want to sign up if you are a new linux user - lots of help to be had. You should take a look at http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net which will give you some pointers on what you'll need to do to get everything working. (There is a tutorial and FAQ) If you run into any problems, post back to the list and give us the details of the problem along with what distribution etc that you are running and I'm sure you'll get the help you need. Have fun and good luck Greeno -- Greeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
