Re: [SLUG] slug Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1

2015-12-09 Thread gonzo01

Mint XFCE 17.2

Sound Settings/ Output Device

should show both sets of speakers if they are attached - just choose the 
external set

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Re: [SLUG] Disabling HDMI sound

2015-12-05 Thread Maxim Zakharov
Hi,

It seems this motherboard has Realtek ALC887-VD2 audio codec.
Check mb's docs if it's true and then google for drivers/advise for Ubuntu.
Google brings to me this thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209364
You may find some others as well.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Patrick Elliott-Brennan <
m...@elliott-brennan.id.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> My new machine has an ASUS motherboard:
>
> H170M-E D3
>
>
> and an AMD Radeon R7 360 video card.
>
>
> I'm running Kubuntu 14.04
>
>
> I am getting no sound through the motherboard's onboard sound card.
>
> I get sound over HDMI and fortunately my monitor has an HDMI port AND
> built in speakers. However these are no-where near as good as my
> desktop speakers.
>
> The only option in the BIOS is HD Audio Controller (enable/disable).
> However nothing I change here has any effect.
>
> In the GUI the onboard sound is greyed out. Alsamixer shows HDMI sound
> only. The desktop GUI shows only HDMI.
>
> aplay -l shows only the HDMI sound.
>
> I have tried a number of things including
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I have added
>
> snd_hda_intel
>
> and adding a line in GRUB
> radeon.audio=1 and using 0 as well.
>
> I have found another possible solution here:
> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
>
> Which suggests, under Linux kernel parameters
>
> Option: radeon.audio
> Value:: 0,1
> Default Value: 0
> Explanation: Disable/enable HDMI audio
>
> My question is: what *do* I do with this? I'm assuming I need to
> add/remove something *somwhere* but...where/what?
>
> Any help would be most appreciated. Without the onboard sound card I'm
> stuck with the crappy monitor speakers and cannot use headphones nor
> use a microphone for video conferencing etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick
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Re: [SLUG] Disabling HDMI sound

2015-12-03 Thread Nick Andrew
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:28:44PM +1100, Patrick Elliott-Brennan wrote:
> I have found another possible solution here:
> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
> 
> Which suggests, under Linux kernel parameters
> 
> Option: radeon.audio
> Value:: 0,1
> Default Value: 0
> Explanation: Disable/enable HDMI audio
> 
> My question is: what *do* I do with this? I'm assuming I need to
> add/remove something *somwhere* but...where/what?

Edit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf

options radeon audio=1

Note that my "modinfo -p radeon" shows an additional option -1 for audio:

audio:Audio enable (-1 = auto, 0 = disable, 1 = enable) (int)

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Re: [SLUG] Disabling HDMI sound

2015-12-03 Thread Ben Donohue

As a first step,
Does it work using something like Knoppix?
If so then this will prove not a hardware fault.
Also check its not turned off in the BIOS
Ben


On 15/11/15 22:28, Patrick Elliott-Brennan wrote:

Hi All,

My new machine has an ASUS motherboard:

H170M-E D3


and an AMD Radeon R7 360 video card.


I'm running Kubuntu 14.04


I am getting no sound through the motherboard's onboard sound card.

I get sound over HDMI and fortunately my monitor has an HDMI port AND
built in speakers. However these are no-where near as good as my
desktop speakers.

The only option in the BIOS is HD Audio Controller (enable/disable).
However nothing I change here has any effect.

In the GUI the onboard sound is greyed out. Alsamixer shows HDMI sound
only. The desktop GUI shows only HDMI.

aplay -l shows only the HDMI sound.

I have tried a number of things including
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I have added

snd_hda_intel

and adding a line in GRUB
radeon.audio=1 and using 0 as well.

I have found another possible solution here:
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/

Which suggests, under Linux kernel parameters

Option: radeon.audio
Value:: 0,1
Default Value: 0
Explanation: Disable/enable HDMI audio

My question is: what *do* I do with this? I'm assuming I need to
add/remove something *somwhere* but...where/what?

Any help would be most appreciated. Without the onboard sound card I'm
stuck with the crappy monitor speakers and cannot use headphones nor
use a microphone for video conferencing etc.

Regards,

Patrick


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Re: [SLUG] Quick one on a Toshiba laptop.

2015-11-24 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

One of these images should help:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Toshiba+Satellite+A660+keyboard=isch

m
On 29/09/15 17:23, William Bennett wrote:

Toshiba Satellite A660



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Re: [SLUG] Disabling HDMI sound

2015-11-22 Thread Patrick Elliott-Brennan
Hi all again.

First, thanks Josh for your suggestion.

Sridhar suggested checking dmesg, which I found:

[4.054115] snd_hda_intel :01:00.1: Handle VGA-switcheroo audio client
[4.054117] snd_hda_intel :01:00.1: Force to non-snoop mode

Then looking in syslog I found:

Nov 16 20:41:04 patrick-desktop kernel: [4.109628] snd_hda_intel
:00:1f.3: failed to add i915_bpo component master (-19)

So, doing a Google

I found:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2293912


Which lead to:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS

Which suggested:

sudo apt-get install dkms

followed by a visit to:

https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily/+packages


Which is by the Ubuntu Audio Development Team

Packages in “ALSA daily build snapshots”

Downloading
oem-audio-hda-daily-lts-vivid-dkms - 0.201509251531~ubuntu14.04.1.deb

I then installed the .deb and rebooted

Et voilà!

Sound out of the onboard audio.

Nice.

Had to fiddle around with the PulseAudio settings and master controls
to make everything use the onboard audio but there we are.

Thought I'd post this in case anyone else experienced the same problem :)

Regards,

Patrick
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-11-18 Thread Tom Worthington

On 21/09/15 12:00, James Gray wrote:


... give ye olde web page a shot in the arm? ...


Here is my attempt to remove the bits from the Slug website which don't 
work and put in simple links to the bits which do work. The result is 
not pretty, but at least it should work:


---




  Sydney Linux User Group


 
  
   Sydney Linux User Group
  
  
   The Sydney Linux Users Group (SLUG) is a community of passionate
   freedom and technology lovers in Sydney, Australia. Join the
   http://www.meetup.com/Sydney-Linux-User-Group/;>Slug
   Meetup for details of the next event, to be a sponsor, or
   offer a short lightning talk, or a longer presentation.
  
  
   Slug meets at 6pm on the last Friday, most months, at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=+48+Pirrama+Road%2C+Pyrmont%2C+au;>
   Google Sydney.
  
  
   We are one of the largest and most active of http://linux.org.au/usergroups;>Australia's users groups for
   the Linux free and open-source computer operating system, with a
   diverse membership of users, developers, sysadmins, and advocates.
  
  
   Also:
  
  
   
https://www.youtube.com/user/sydneylinuxusergroup;>Videos of
Slug Events
   
   
https://twitter.com/slugupdates;>@slugupdates and
https://twitter.com/hashtag/sydlug?src=hash;>#sydlug
on Twitter
   
   
mailto:slug-requ...@slug.org.au?subject=subscribe;>Join
to Slug Email List
   
  
 


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Re: [SLUG] slug Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

2015-11-18 Thread Patrick Elliott-Brennan
+1

From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 09:16:31 +1000
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Website
> Hi All,
>
> How about a hackfest of the website at the SLUG meeting on Friday evening.
>
> Who has the passwords? Do we have to recover them?
>
> Marghanita
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Re: [SLUG] Wiki suggestions?

2015-11-18 Thread Amos Shapira
I think there is an "edit source" option somewhere there, if you insist on
text syntax. Personally I find its WYSIWYG interface pretty convenient,
compared to the rare times that I find myself correct entries on Wikipedia.
On 3 Oct 2015 6:09 pm, "James Gray"  wrote:

> I wouldn't describe Confluence as a true wiki any more. They ripped out the
> Wiki syntax for editing  while ago.  The wiki syntax is still supported for
> creating documents via API.  Confluence is probably best described as an
> "Documentation Collaboration" product now. Don't get me wrong; it's still
> bloody good at what it does but it isn't a wiki in the strictest sense. If
> having the ability to edit plain text offline and be able to dump it into
> Confluence and have it formatted nicely, then Confluence isn't the best
> option (things may have changed and happy to be corrected here!).
>
> I've always just ended up with MediaWIKI (
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki) but there are simpler options
> obviously.
>
> Good luck with your hunt :)
>
> --
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>
> On 14 September 2015 at 18:22, Jonathan Molyneux <
> jonat...@infinitedepth.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Confluence is a good start for a wiki:
> >
> >
> https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/pricing?_mid=206e3e3a242fb80ba4d7ba972f52c657=CIbO5Y-M9scCFYkrvQodRNoAOw#server
> >
> > Doesn't cost heaps and it's a solid wiki.
> >
> >
> > On 11/09/2015 11:21 AM, DaZZa wrote:
> >
> >> Learned ones,.
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a Wiki to setup for the company to make available to
> >> contractors semi-private documents
> >>
> >> I don't mind if I have to pay a little for it, but open source would
> >> be most excellent.
> >>
> >> So, I'm looking for suggestions for some form of Wiki.
> >>
> >> I'd like
> >>
> >> 1) Secure - two levels of access (view/edit)
> >> 2) Lightweight
> >> 3) Linux (obviously, 'cause f**k paying Microsoft tax where I don't have
> >> to)
> >>
> >> It'd be nice if I could integrate it with AD (or at least LDAP query
> >> for usernames/passwords), but that's not critical.
> >>
> >> It'd also be nice if I could put some kind of skin or theme on it
> >> customised by the marketing nazi's to make it look all company-ie.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> DaZZa
> >>
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-11-18 Thread Darin McLean
I would be happy to put something simple and functional together.

Who is the contact looking after the website and the hosting currently?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:00 PM, James Gray  wrote:

> Is "deterioration" a kinder way of saying "neglect"? ;)
>
> Well, we *can *moan and criticise, but can anyone step up and give ye olde
> web page a shot in the arm? I'll bow up now as I am NOT a UI person. Hell,
> anything much beyond to command line is far to fancy for my taste! Just
> interested what the SLUG process is for getting the community engaged -
> this is obviously something we've noticed, and don't like, so how can we
> change it?
>
> --
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>
> On 14 September 2015 at 06:31, Amos Shapira 
> wrote:
>
> > I agree the site doesn't give a great shot of confidence in Linux as a
> web
> > server, it doesn't render any page to completion for me.
> >
> > There is a link to "See the code" which points to
> > https://github.com/sydney-linux-user-group/slug/commits/master, where
> the
> > last commit happened over three years ago (29 May 2012), so perhaps it's
> > just a case of deterioration more than active change.
> >
> > --Amos
> >
> > On 9 September 2015 at 23:12, Heracles  wrote:
> >
> > > I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site
> > > into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8
> > > with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
> > > I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past
> the
> > > front page - which is worse than useless!
> > >
> > > Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] slug Digest, Vol 115, Issue 1

2015-11-18 Thread Patrick Elliott-Brennan
I'd say it needs a new sponsor/organiser.

I was not able to make the last meeting so wasn't able to raise the
issue at the meeting.

1. Did anyone raise the issue?
2. If so, was there a resolution to the issue?

Any information appreciated :)

Patrick

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> From: David <da...@kenpro.com.au>
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:36:20 +1000
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Website
> Not a great advertisement for Linux in Sydney :(
>
> Whoever is looking after the website, isn't. Does SLUG need a new website 
> sponsor? or is the organisation passed it's use by date? T'would be a pity 
> indeed.
>
> David
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-11-18 Thread James Linder

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 10:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Not a great advertisement for Linux in Sydney :(
> 
> Whoever is looking after the website, isn't. Does SLUG need a new website 
> sponsor? or is the organisation passed it's use by date? T'would be a pity 
> indeed.
> 
> David
> 
> On 13/09/15 17:18, Rick Phillips wrote:
>> I agree with you Heracles.  In fact not one of the menu items (on the top of 
>> the page) works.
>> 
>> Most pages simple tell the world that nginx is being used as the web server.
>> 
>> A bit sad really.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/09/15 23:12, Heracles wrote:
>>> I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site into 
>>> a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8 with 
>>> enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
>>> I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past the 
>>> front page - which is worse than useless!
>>> 
>>> Heracles

No opinion about any local hosters but I’ve been using bluehost 
(http://bluehost.com) for a couple of years. At US$4/month I find their 
offering superb. On request (once) they provide ssh access which CLI junkies 
like moi find invaluable. They run CentOS 
James
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Re: [SLUG] Locale settings in Debian

2015-10-03 Thread James Gray
You haven't set up your keyboard with a European mapping by any chance? If
so, this might solve the problem for you:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

Also, you might want to try launching from the command line and for a
specific locale and see if it fixes anything:

LANG=en_AU.utf8 google-chrome

If that fixes it, then also check your locale settings in your environment
(window manager et al).

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On 15 September 2015 at 13:53, Heracles  wrote:

> Maybe I need to ask this on the Debian list BUT:
> I have set my system to Australian English and it insists on converting
> everything in Google Chrome to euros! How do I change it to display
> Australian Dollars?
>
> Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-10-03 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

Hi All,

How about a hackfest of the website at the SLUG meeting on Friday evening.

Who has the passwords? Do we have to recover them?

Marghanita
On 14/09/15 06:31, Amos Shapira wrote:

I agree the site doesn't give a great shot of confidence in Linux as a web
server, it doesn't render any page to completion for me.

There is a link to "See the code" which points to
https://github.com/sydney-linux-user-group/slug/commits/master, where the
last commit happened over three years ago (29 May 2012), so perhaps it's
just a case of deterioration more than active change.

--Amos

On 9 September 2015 at 23:12, Heracles  wrote:


I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site
into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8
with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past the
front page - which is worse than useless!

Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Wiki suggestions?

2015-10-03 Thread DaZZa
On 21 September 2015 at 13:59, James Gray  wrote:
> I wouldn't describe Confluence as a true wiki any more. They ripped out the
> Wiki syntax for editing  while ago.  The wiki syntax is still supported for
> creating documents via API.  Confluence is probably best described as an
> "Documentation Collaboration" product now. Don't get me wrong; it's still
> bloody good at what it does but it isn't a wiki in the strictest sense. If
> having the ability to edit plain text offline and be able to dump it into
> Confluence and have it formatted nicely, then Confluence isn't the best
> option (things may have changed and happy to be corrected here!).

We've already got a Confluence instance for the "inside" - but I (the
business) don't want to put that on the Internet, as it has a lot of
very proprietary information on it -and we don;t want to pay for
another one - hence the search for free version for the "outside" Wiki
(which will be much less detailed and simpler).

> I've always just ended up with MediaWIKI
> (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki) but there are simpler options
> obviously.

I've actually got an instance of that up and running - but getting it
talking to AD for authentication is proving problematic - and I don't
have the resources to dig into it properly.

I'll keep investigating - maybe I can find one which is point and click. :)

Thanks for your input.

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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-10-03 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

The SLUG AGM must be coming up.
Any nominations for committee - webmaster?

Marghanita

On 15/09/15 08:54, Tom Worthington wrote:

On 09/09/15 23:12, Heracles wrote:


... SLUG Site, now I cant get past the front page  ...


On the Slug home page I see a row of menu items across the top: "Home | Events 
| Archives | Mailing
Lists | Get the code!": http://www.slug.org.au/

Here is what happens when I select them:

* Home: takes me to the same page (as expected).
* Events: displays the text "SLUG Events", with a yellow rectangle below
it, but no actual events.
* Archives: displays the text "Welcome to nginx!" but no archives
* Mailing List: displays "Welcome to nginx!" but no mailing lists.
* Get the code!: takes me to GitHub with a repository of Slug stuff, but why?

Below these menu items it says "Sydney Linux User Group" and there is a 
paragraph describing the
group (which makes sense).

Then below that it says "#sydlug @slugupdates both Loading tweets..." which 
does not make much
sense. I assume these are the hastag, twitter address and a list of recent 
Tweets is then supposed
to appear (but thankfully does not: who would want this?).

Next to that is "Previously at SLUG (more on YouTube) Enabled HTML5 Video!" 
with a video window
underneath. I have video turned off by default so thankfully nothing plays (why 
would I want it to?).

Below that is "Attend the next meeting, Sponsor An event or SLUG as a whole, 
Give a talk Educate
your fellows". Here is what I get when selecting each:

* ATTEND: "Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
"/base/data/home/runtimes/python/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/_webapp25.py",
line 715, in __call__
 handler.get(*groups)
   File 
"/base/data/home/apps/s~sydney-linux-user-group-hr/8.353599326443764872/events.py",
 line 26,
in get
 self.redirect(event_lists.get_next_event().get_url())
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_url'"

* SPONSOR: Creates an email with the address 
"commit...@slug.org.au=Sponsoring SLUG". I
assume "Sponsoring SLUG" is supposed to be in the subject line, but is not.

* GIVE A TALK: Opens a window asking for my Open Id to log into the Slug 
website, but why?

I suggest:

1. Replace the video and the twitter feed windows with hypertext links.
2. Delete "Get the code!"
3. Get the other menu options to work.

ps: I am using Firefox 40.0.3 for Linux.





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Re: [SLUG] Locale settings in Debian

2015-10-03 Thread Heracles


On 21/09/15 16:42, James Gray wrote:
You haven't set up your keyboard with a European mapping by any 
chance? If so, this might solve the problem for you:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

Also, you might want to try launching from the command line and for a specific 
locale and see if it fixes anything:
LANG=en_AU.utf8 google-chrome
If that fixes it, then also check your locale settings in your 
environment (window manager et al).


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On 15 September 2015 at 13:53, Heracles > wrote:


Maybe I need to ask this on the Debian list BUT:
I have set my system to Australian English and it insists on
converting everything in Google Chrome to euros! How do I change
it to display Australian Dollars?

Heracles

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Thanks James, but it turned out that Chrome somehow setup a currency 
conversion extension. Once I deactivated and removed it all works as 
expected.

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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-10-03 Thread James Gray
Is "deterioration" a kinder way of saying "neglect"? ;)

Well, we *can *moan and criticise, but can anyone step up and give ye olde
web page a shot in the arm? I'll bow up now as I am NOT a UI person. Hell,
anything much beyond to command line is far to fancy for my taste! Just
interested what the SLUG process is for getting the community engaged -
this is obviously something we've noticed, and don't like, so how can we
change it?

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On 14 September 2015 at 06:31, Amos Shapira  wrote:

> I agree the site doesn't give a great shot of confidence in Linux as a web
> server, it doesn't render any page to completion for me.
>
> There is a link to "See the code" which points to
> https://github.com/sydney-linux-user-group/slug/commits/master, where the
> last commit happened over three years ago (29 May 2012), so perhaps it's
> just a case of deterioration more than active change.
>
> --Amos
>
> On 9 September 2015 at 23:12, Heracles  wrote:
>
> > I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site
> > into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8
> > with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
> > I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past the
> > front page - which is worse than useless!
> >
> > Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] Wiki suggestions?

2015-10-03 Thread James Gray
I wouldn't describe Confluence as a true wiki any more. They ripped out the
Wiki syntax for editing  while ago.  The wiki syntax is still supported for
creating documents via API.  Confluence is probably best described as an
"Documentation Collaboration" product now. Don't get me wrong; it's still
bloody good at what it does but it isn't a wiki in the strictest sense. If
having the ability to edit plain text offline and be able to dump it into
Confluence and have it formatted nicely, then Confluence isn't the best
option (things may have changed and happy to be corrected here!).

I've always just ended up with MediaWIKI (
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki) but there are simpler options
obviously.

Good luck with your hunt :)

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On 14 September 2015 at 18:22, Jonathan Molyneux <
jonat...@infinitedepth.com.au> wrote:

> Confluence is a good start for a wiki:
>
> https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/pricing?_mid=206e3e3a242fb80ba4d7ba972f52c657=CIbO5Y-M9scCFYkrvQodRNoAOw#server
>
> Doesn't cost heaps and it's a solid wiki.
>
>
> On 11/09/2015 11:21 AM, DaZZa wrote:
>
>> Learned ones,.
>>
>> I'm looking for a Wiki to setup for the company to make available to
>> contractors semi-private documents
>>
>> I don't mind if I have to pay a little for it, but open source would
>> be most excellent.
>>
>> So, I'm looking for suggestions for some form of Wiki.
>>
>> I'd like
>>
>> 1) Secure - two levels of access (view/edit)
>> 2) Lightweight
>> 3) Linux (obviously, 'cause f**k paying Microsoft tax where I don't have
>> to)
>>
>> It'd be nice if I could integrate it with AD (or at least LDAP query
>> for usernames/passwords), but that's not critical.
>>
>> It'd also be nice if I could put some kind of skin or theme on it
>> customised by the marketing nazi's to make it look all company-ie.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> DaZZa
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-10-02 Thread David

Not a great advertisement for Linux in Sydney :(

Whoever is looking after the website, isn't. Does SLUG need a new 
website sponsor? or is the organisation passed it's use by date? T'would 
be a pity indeed.


David

On 13/09/15 17:18, Rick Phillips wrote:
I agree with you Heracles.  In fact not one of the menu items (on the 
top of the page) works.


Most pages simple tell the world that nginx is being used as the web 
server.


A bit sad really.

Regards,

Rick


On 09/09/15 23:12, Heracles wrote:
I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate 
site into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using 
Debian 8 with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past 
the front page - which is worse than useless!


Heracles





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Re: [SLUG] problem with debian locale?

2015-10-01 Thread Heracles


On 17/09/15 15:54, Lubos Rendek wrote:

Hi Heracles,

Did you check whether your chrome browser does not have any automatic 
currency converters plugins enabled by navigating to your chrome to: 
chrome://plugins/


Lubos

That was, indeed, the problem. I didn't remember loading it but I have 
now removed it completely and all is well again.

Thanks Lubos
Heracles

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Heracles > wrote:


That should be LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf8" which is what exists on
the system. The extra hyphen was a typo!
Sick of seeing everything translated to euros. Any clues on what
to change in my settings to get AU$.

Ashley (Heracles)



On 09/09/15 17:11, Heracles wrote:

Hi guys,
I am having a problem with my system. I installed Makulu Linux
and let it upgrade and ended up with Debian 8.
The problem is that even though LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf-8" I
get all currency in chrome converted to euros. Is there
another setting I may have missed?

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Re: [SLUG] problem with debian locale?

2015-10-01 Thread Lubos Rendek
Hi Heracles,

Did you check whether your chrome browser does not have any automatic
currency converters plugins enabled by navigating to your chrome to:
chrome://plugins/

Lubos

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Heracles  wrote:

> That should be LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf8" which is what exists on the
> system. The extra hyphen was a typo!
> Sick of seeing everything translated to euros. Any clues on what to change
> in my settings to get AU$.
>
> Ashley (Heracles)
>
>
>
> On 09/09/15 17:11, Heracles wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> I am having a problem with my system. I installed Makulu Linux and let it
>> upgrade and ended up with Debian 8.
>> The problem is that even though LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf-8" I get all
>> currency in chrome converted to euros. Is there another setting I may have
>> missed?
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-09-20 Thread Amos Shapira
I agree the site doesn't give a great shot of confidence in Linux as a web
server, it doesn't render any page to completion for me.

There is a link to "See the code" which points to
https://github.com/sydney-linux-user-group/slug/commits/master, where the
last commit happened over three years ago (29 May 2012), so perhaps it's
just a case of deterioration more than active change.

--Amos

On 9 September 2015 at 23:12, Heracles  wrote:

> I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site
> into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8
> with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
> I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past the
> front page - which is worse than useless!
>
> Heracles
>
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Re: [SLUG] Wiki suggestions?

2015-09-20 Thread simran
You can pay Atlassian instead...

Not free, but very good: https://confluence.atlassian.com/
(go for the server version if you want to install it on one of your own
linux hosts)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, DaZZa  wrote:

> Learned ones,.
>
> I'm looking for a Wiki to setup for the company to make available to
> contractors semi-private documents
>
> I don't mind if I have to pay a little for it, but open source would
> be most excellent.
>
> So, I'm looking for suggestions for some form of Wiki.
>
> I'd like
>
> 1) Secure - two levels of access (view/edit)
> 2) Lightweight
> 3) Linux (obviously, 'cause f**k paying Microsoft tax where I don't have
> to)
>
> It'd be nice if I could integrate it with AD (or at least LDAP query
> for usernames/passwords), but that's not critical.
>
> It'd also be nice if I could put some kind of skin or theme on it
> customised by the marketing nazi's to make it look all company-ie.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Wiki suggestions?

2015-09-20 Thread Jonathan Molyneux

Confluence is a good start for a wiki:
https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/pricing?_mid=206e3e3a242fb80ba4d7ba972f52c657=CIbO5Y-M9scCFYkrvQodRNoAOw#server

Doesn't cost heaps and it's a solid wiki.

On 11/09/2015 11:21 AM, DaZZa wrote:

Learned ones,.

I'm looking for a Wiki to setup for the company to make available to
contractors semi-private documents

I don't mind if I have to pay a little for it, but open source would
be most excellent.

So, I'm looking for suggestions for some form of Wiki.

I'd like

1) Secure - two levels of access (view/edit)
2) Lightweight
3) Linux (obviously, 'cause f**k paying Microsoft tax where I don't have to)

It'd be nice if I could integrate it with AD (or at least LDAP query
for usernames/passwords), but that's not critical.

It'd also be nice if I could put some kind of skin or theme on it
customised by the marketing nazi's to make it look all company-ie.

Any suggestions?


Thanks.

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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-09-20 Thread Tom Worthington

On 09/09/15 23:12, Heracles wrote:


... SLUG Site, now I cant get past the front page  ...


On the Slug home page I see a row of menu items across the top: "Home | 
Events | Archives | Mailing Lists | Get the code!": http://www.slug.org.au/


Here is what happens when I select them:

* Home: takes me to the same page (as expected).
* Events: displays the text "SLUG Events", with a yellow rectangle below
it, but no actual events.
* Archives: displays the text "Welcome to nginx!" but no archives
* Mailing List: displays "Welcome to nginx!" but no mailing lists.
* Get the code!: takes me to GitHub with a repository of Slug stuff, but 
why?


Below these menu items it says "Sydney Linux User Group" and there is a 
paragraph describing the group (which makes sense).


Then below that it says "#sydlug @slugupdates both Loading tweets..." 
which does not make much sense. I assume these are the hastag, twitter 
address and a list of recent Tweets is then supposed to appear (but 
thankfully does not: who would want this?).


Next to that is "Previously at SLUG (more on YouTube) Enabled HTML5 
Video!" with a video window underneath. I have video turned off by 
default so thankfully nothing plays (why would I want it to?).


Below that is "Attend the next meeting, Sponsor An event or SLUG as a 
whole, Give a talk Educate your fellows". Here is what I get when 
selecting each:


* ATTEND: "Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/base/data/home/runtimes/python/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/_webapp25.py", 
line 715, in __call__

handler.get(*groups)
  File 
"/base/data/home/apps/s~sydney-linux-user-group-hr/8.353599326443764872/events.py", 
line 26, in get

self.redirect(event_lists.get_next_event().get_url())
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_url'"

* SPONSOR: Creates an email with the address 
"commit...@slug.org.au=Sponsoring SLUG". I assume "Sponsoring 
SLUG" is supposed to be in the subject line, but is not.


* GIVE A TALK: Opens a window asking for my Open Id to log into the Slug 
website, but why?


I suggest:

1. Replace the video and the twitter feed windows with hypertext links.
2. Delete "Get the code!"
3. Get the other menu options to work.

ps: I am using Firefox 40.0.3 for Linux.


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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-09-16 Thread Rick Phillips
I agree with you Heracles.  In fact not one of the menu items (on the 
top of the page) works.


Most pages simple tell the world that nginx is being used as the web server.

A bit sad really.

Regards,

Rick


On 09/09/15 23:12, Heracles wrote:
I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site 
into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 
8 with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past 
the front page - which is worse than useless!


Heracles



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Re: [SLUG] Website

2015-09-16 Thread Mark Walkom
Looks like a generic problem, can't access much of anything.

On 9 September 2015 at 23:12, Heracles  wrote:

> I must congratulate the webmaster for turning an easy to navigate site
> into a nightmare. I know my system is a bit dated. (I am using Debian 8
> with enlightenment e17 as a desktop.)
> I used to find it easy to navigate the SLUG Site, now I cant get past the
> front page - which is worse than useless!
>
> Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] problem with debian locale?

2015-09-16 Thread Heracles
That should be LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf8" which is what exists on the 
system. The extra hyphen was a typo!
Sick of seeing everything translated to euros. Any clues on what to 
change in my settings to get AU$.


Ashley (Heracles)


On 09/09/15 17:11, Heracles wrote:

Hi guys,
I am having a problem with my system. I installed Makulu Linux and let 
it upgrade and ended up with Debian 8.
The problem is that even though LC_MONETARY="en_AU.utf-8" I get all 
currency in chrome converted to euros. Is there another setting I may 
have missed?


Ashley



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Re: [SLUG] mailing list archives?

2015-06-10 Thread Ben

HI Amos,

try...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sluggers

Is this what you are looking for?
Ben


On 10/06/15 13:05, Amos Shapira wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to find the SLUG mailing list archive but any link other than
the home page (e.g. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/) just gives the
default Welcome to nginx! page.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] mailing list archives?

2015-06-10 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

Hi Amos,

You might need to try the way back machine.

I do recall asking trove to archive the slug website - but I can't find it - might not be avail even 
if it is archived (there were some copyright issues surround trove's archive of websites)


Marghanita

On 10/06/15 13:05, Amos Shapira wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to find the SLUG mailing list archive but any link other than
the home page (e.g. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/) just gives the
default Welcome to nginx! page.

Thanks,

--Amos




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Re: [SLUG] mailing list archives?

2015-06-10 Thread Amos Shapira
Thanks. Not ideal (I prefer old-fashioned mail archives personally) but
hopefully can serve.

The web site is still broken, isn't it?


On 10 June 2015 at 18:56, Ben donoh...@icafe.com.au wrote:

 HI Amos,

 try...

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sluggers

 Is this what you are looking for?
 Ben


 On 10/06/15 13:05, Amos Shapira wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm trying to find the SLUG mailing list archive but any link other than
 the home page (e.g. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/) just gives
 the
 default Welcome to nginx! page.

 Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread Michael McAllister
Glad to hear you got your MTU issue fixed :-)


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On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:02 PM -0700, David 
da...@kenpro.com.aumailto:da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

It seems that an upstream supplier has made changes that specifically
require an MTU of 1492. Problem solved.

Only some sites were affected, which made it confusing. I can't imagine
why anyone would do this and not tell anybody. My reseller couldn't tell
me who the upstream supplier is, except that it isn't TPG.

Go figure.

On 08/06/15 18:41, Amos Shapira wrote:
 You probably refer to the drop of support for NPAPI (e.g. article in
 http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/24/google-chrome-will-block-all-netscape-plugin-api-plugins-in-january-drop-support-completely-in-september/
 about Chrome but Firefox is following cloesely behind).

 There are temporary work-around provided by Google to keep letting
 some plugins to be enabled by some sites, but they are all expected to
 be gone by the end of 2015 so should better find alternatives soon.

 As for the original question - I doubt that it's a plugin issue. It
 sounds more like some of the dependent resources on these pages are
 being blocked or otherwise (temporarily?) unavailable. What does the
 JavaScript console show? Do you have some corporate proxy which could
 be misbehaving?

 Just for shits and giggles, I visited 
 www.trivago.com.auhttp://www.trivago.com.au
 http://www.trivago.com.au and had no problem accessing it, even on
 my flaky home ADSL2+ line.
 --Amos

 On 8 June 2015 at 17:13, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com
 mailto:dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 What browser?

 Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java
 pugins (and
 others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped
 allowing
 the plugins to work.

 Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of
 them,  all
 being blamed on the firewall, or the network.

 I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm
 mobile,
 but try a different browser and see if that helps.

 DaZZa
 On 08/06/2015 3:24 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au
 mailto:da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

  I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG
 reseller.
 
  Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are
 inaccessible from
  local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks
 like
  javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The
 browser is
  waiting for a script or css or something not immediately
 obvious. I get the
  same problem with different browsers.
 
  Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but
 after
  apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I
 can't tell
  what. Some google responses work and some don't.
 
  For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for
  jse.trivago.com http://jse.trivago.com and never loads,
 although I can telnet to port 80. BTW,
  lynx works fine - which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS
 or some such.
 
  I rang the help desk late on Friday. They suggested DNS (??),
 but I don't
  think that's it because I tried using an external DNS server and
 in any
  case there doesn't seem to be any resolution problem. On their
 suggestion
  I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with no change. Does
 anybody
  have any thoughts?
 
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread David
It seems that an upstream supplier has made changes that specifically 
require an MTU of 1492. Problem solved.


Only some sites were affected, which made it confusing. I can't imagine 
why anyone would do this and not tell anybody. My reseller couldn't tell 
me who the upstream supplier is, except that it isn't TPG.


Go figure.

On 08/06/15 18:41, Amos Shapira wrote:
You probably refer to the drop of support for NPAPI (e.g. article in 
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/24/google-chrome-will-block-all-netscape-plugin-api-plugins-in-january-drop-support-completely-in-september/ 
about Chrome but Firefox is following cloesely behind).


There are temporary work-around provided by Google to keep letting 
some plugins to be enabled by some sites, but they are all expected to 
be gone by the end of 2015 so should better find alternatives soon.


As for the original question - I doubt that it's a plugin issue. It 
sounds more like some of the dependent resources on these pages are 
being blocked or otherwise (temporarily?) unavailable. What does the 
JavaScript console show? Do you have some corporate proxy which could 
be misbehaving?


Just for shits and giggles, I visited www.trivago.com.au 
http://www.trivago.com.au and had no problem accessing it, even on 
my flaky home ADSL2+ line.

--Amos

On 8 June 2015 at 17:13, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com 
mailto:dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote:


What browser?

Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java
pugins (and
others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped
allowing
the plugins to work.

Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of
them,  all
being blamed on the firewall, or the network.

I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm
mobile,
but try a different browser and see if that helps.

DaZZa
On 08/06/2015 3:24 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au
mailto:da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

 I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG
reseller.

 Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are
inaccessible from
 local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks
like
 javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The
browser is
 waiting for a script or css or something not immediately
obvious. I get the
 same problem with different browsers.

 Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but
after
 apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I
can't tell
 what. Some google responses work and some don't.

 For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for
 jse.trivago.com http://jse.trivago.com and never loads,
although I can telnet to port 80. BTW,
 lynx works fine - which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS
or some such.

 I rang the help desk late on Friday. They suggested DNS (??),
but I don't
 think that's it because I tried using an external DNS server and
in any
 case there doesn't seem to be any resolution problem. On their
suggestion
 I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with no change. Does
anybody
 have any thoughts?

 David
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread Amos Shapira
tcptraceroute (or traceroute -T in some versions) could possibly expose
the culprit, it's a very useful tool to have in your toolbox for such
situations.

On 9 June 2015 at 11:34, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

  It seems that an upstream supplier has made changes that specifically
 require an MTU of 1492. Problem solved.

 Only some sites were affected, which made it confusing. I can't imagine
 why anyone would do this and not tell anybody. My reseller couldn't tell me
 who the upstream supplier is, except that it isn't TPG.

 Go figure.

 On 08/06/15 18:41, Amos Shapira wrote:

 You probably refer to the drop of support for NPAPI (e.g. article in
 http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/24/google-chrome-will-block-all-netscape-plugin-api-plugins-in-january-drop-support-completely-in-september/
 about Chrome but Firefox is following cloesely behind).

  There are temporary work-around provided by Google to keep letting some
 plugins to be enabled by some sites, but they are all expected to be gone
 by the end of 2015 so should better find alternatives soon.

  As for the original question - I doubt that it's a plugin issue. It
 sounds more like some of the dependent resources on these pages are being
 blocked or otherwise (temporarily?) unavailable. What does the JavaScript
 console show? Do you have some corporate proxy which could be misbehaving?

  Just for shits and giggles, I visited www.trivago.com.au and had no
 problem accessing it, even on my flaky home ADSL2+ line.

  --Amos

 On 8 June 2015 at 17:13, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 What browser?

 Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java pugins (and
 others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped allowing
 the plugins to work.

 Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of them,  all
 being blamed on the firewall, or the network.

 I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm mobile,
 but try a different browser and see if that helps.

 DaZZa
 On 08/06/2015 3:24 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

  I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG reseller.
 
  Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are inaccessible
 from
  local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks like
  javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The browser
 is
  waiting for a script or css or something not immediately obvious. I get
 the
  same problem with different browsers.
 
  Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but after
  apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I can't
 tell
  what. Some google responses work and some don't.
 
  For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for
  jse.trivago.com and never loads, although I can telnet to port 80. BTW,
  lynx works fine - which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS or some
 such.
 
  I rang the help desk late on Friday. They suggested DNS (??), but I
 don't
  think that's it because I tried using an external DNS server and in any
  case there doesn't seem to be any resolution problem. On their
 suggestion
  I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with no change. Does anybody
  have any thoughts?
 
  David
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread DaZZa
What browser?

Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java pugins (and
others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped allowing
the plugins to work.

Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of them,  all
being blamed on the firewall, or the network.

I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm mobile,
but try a different browser and see if that helps.

DaZZa
On 08/06/2015 3:24 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

 I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG reseller.

 Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are inaccessible from
 local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks like
 javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The browser is
 waiting for a script or css or something not immediately obvious. I get the
 same problem with different browsers.

 Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but after
 apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I can't tell
 what. Some google responses work and some don't.

 For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for
 jse.trivago.com and never loads, although I can telnet to port 80. BTW,
 lynx works fine - which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS or some such.

 I rang the help desk late on Friday. They suggested DNS (??), but I don't
 think that's it because I tried using an external DNS server and in any
 case there doesn't seem to be any resolution problem. On their suggestion
 I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with no change. Does anybody
 have any thoughts?

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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread Michael McAllister
It smells like MTU.  Run some pings and play around with the packet size to 
find out when it gets fragmented.


From: david
Sent: Monday 8 June 3:25 pm
Subject: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites
To: slug@slug.org.au

I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG reseller. Suddenly 
some external websites or partial websites are inaccessible from local clients. 
I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks like javascript or some such 
is holding up the webpage download. The browser is waiting for a script or css 
or something not immediately obvious. I get the same problem with different 
browsers. Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but after 
apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I can't tell 
what. Some google responses work and some don't. For example, 
http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for jse.trivago.com and never 
loads, although I can telnet to port 80. BTW, lynx works fine - which makes me 
more suspicious that it's CSS or some such. I rang the help desk late on 
Friday. They suggested DNS (??), but I don't think that's it because I tried 
using an external DNS server and in any case there doesn't seem to be any 
resolution
  problem. On their suggestion I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with 
no change. Does anybody have any thoughts? David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's 
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread James Gray

 On 8 Jun 2015, at 5:13 pm, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What browser?
 
 Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java pugins (and
 others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped allowing
 the plugins to work.
 
 Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of them,  all
 being blamed on the firewall, or the network.
 
 I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm mobile,
 but try a different browser and see if that helps.
 
 DaZZa

Amos beat me to the chase, and I think he’s on the money.  Chrome is phasing 
our NPAPI plugins (Java, Flash and a bunch of others) and I understand Firefox 
is going the same way too, albeit on a slightly different schedule:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI

I got bitten on the arse with Java in Chrome (thanks Oracle, IBM and other 
dinosaurs…you suck!) so I still have to fire up Firefox until they too drop 
support, then I’m royally screwed.  We have a very finite mix of browsers and 
Java versions that work with our “enterprise” data warehouse - Java 6u45 and 
that’s it.  Yep, one version works, all others fail in subtle and/or 
spectacular ways at different points. Yay.

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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread Amos Shapira
On 8 June 2015 at 18:59, James Gray ja...@gray.net.au wrote:

 As for the weird connectivity, I know TPG for a long time ran transparent
 proxies without really making it widely known.  I’ve seen similar behaviour
 to that which you describe when my local Squid cache get’s it’s panties in
 a bunch.  “squid -k restart” usually does the trick.  However, before
 rattling TPG’s cage, maybe try flushing the browser cache and see if the
 problems persist.


Or try using a VPN to escape the TPG cage and see if it helps?
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread Amos Shapira
You probably refer to the drop of support for NPAPI (e.g. article in
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/24/google-chrome-will-block-all-netscape-plugin-api-plugins-in-january-drop-support-completely-in-september/
about Chrome but Firefox is following cloesely behind).

There are temporary work-around provided by Google to keep letting some
plugins to be enabled by some sites, but they are all expected to be gone
by the end of 2015 so should better find alternatives soon.

As for the original question - I doubt that it's a plugin issue. It sounds
more like some of the dependent resources on these pages are being blocked
or otherwise (temporarily?) unavailable. What does the JavaScript console
show? Do you have some corporate proxy which could be misbehaving?

Just for shits and giggles, I visited www.trivago.com.au and had no problem
accessing it, even on my flaky home ADSL2+ line.

--Amos

On 8 June 2015 at 17:13, DaZZa dazzagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 What browser?

 Recently,  Chrome (and possibly Firefox) decided that all java pugins (and
 others like Silverlight) were unsecured, and the simply stopped allowing
 the plugins to work.

 Broke countless business-related Web sites - I had a storm of them,  all
 being blamed on the firewall, or the network.

 I can't find the reference articles I dug up at the time as I'm mobile,
 but try a different browser and see if that helps.

 DaZZa
 On 08/06/2015 3:24 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

  I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG reseller.
 
  Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are inaccessible from
  local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks like
  javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The browser
 is
  waiting for a script or css or something not immediately obvious. I get
 the
  same problem with different browsers.
 
  Some sites work perfectly - eg Westpac. The ABC site works, but after
  apparently loading it then constantly waits for something but I can't
 tell
  what. Some google responses work and some don't.
 
  For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for
  jse.trivago.com and never loads, although I can telnet to port 80. BTW,
  lynx works fine - which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS or some
 such.
 
  I rang the help desk late on Friday. They suggested DNS (??), but I don't
  think that's it because I tried using an external DNS server and in any
  case there doesn't seem to be any resolution problem. On their suggestion
  I've rebooted both the Cisco router and NTU with no change. Does anybody
  have any thoughts?
 
  David
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Re: [SLUG] the curious case of the inaccessible websites

2015-06-08 Thread James Gray

 On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:10 pm, david da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:
 
 I have a business ethernet internet connection from a TPG reseller.
 
 Suddenly some external websites or partial websites are inaccessible from 
 local clients. I haven't yet figured out a pattern, but it looks like 
 javascript or some such is holding up the webpage download. The browser is 
 waiting for a script or css or something not immediately obvious. I get the 
 same problem with different browsers.

—8— snipped

 For example, http://www.trivago.com.au waits indefinitely for jse.trivago.com 
 and never loads, although I can telnet to port 80. BTW, lynx works fine - 
 which makes me more suspicious that it's CSS or some such.

FWIW, you can test the jse.trivago.com request by manually requesting (from 
Safari on OS X): 
http://jse.trivago.com/osp/v9_05_4ae/pricesearch/js/common.es5.ltr.ec.js

It’s just a big JS library for hunting prices down.  I had some fun messing 
round with the local copy, so some prices for $1000+/night hotels came up as 
“FREE!”…would be fun getting them to price match that :)

—8— snipped again…

As for the weird connectivity, I know TPG for a long time ran transparent 
proxies without really making it widely known.  I’ve seen similar behaviour to 
that which you describe when my local Squid cache get’s it’s panties in a 
bunch.  “squid -k restart” usually does the trick.  However, before rattling 
TPG’s cage, maybe try flushing the browser cache and see if the problems 
persist.

Good luck.

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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-02 Thread gr0ve
You should be able to look in the mysql transaction log and line up any 
corresponding entries to timestamps and 
Also in the web/system log files as a very general response. Without more 
detail, it is still hard to say whether your problem is local or if someone is 
breaking the door down, but there will be a correlation
between the events. 



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 On 2 Jun 2015, at 15:20, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you think a malicious actor is deleting files, check also your 
  database links for insertion attacks or other indications of 
  attempted tampering.
 
 We are seeing MySQL table corruption as well in a 'Session' table.
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:
 Hi David,
 Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are 
 there log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?  
 To remove files from a system would leave traces of
 activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is usually 
 clumsily executed and easily identified.
 It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install 
 suhosin to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is 
 deleting files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or 
 other indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such 
 as a bad day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are 
 exposed to the ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there.
 Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as 
 opposed to intrusion etc.
 
 --
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 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au
 
  On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
  Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
  The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web server.
 
  This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything like
  this.
 
  I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
  problems.
 
  We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like that.
 
  To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
  GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
  Regards
 
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-02 Thread David Lyon
Thanks Rachel,

The information you have provided is very helpful.

I will look into the things you have mentioned in detail. It's a good start.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:31 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 You should be able to look in the mysql transaction log and line up any
 corresponding entries to timestamps and
 Also in the web/system log files as a very general response. Without more
 detail, it is still hard to say whether your problem is local or if someone
 is breaking the door down, but there will be a correlation
 between the events.



 rachel

 --
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 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au

 On 2 Jun 2015, at 15:20, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  If you think a malicious actor is deleting files, check also your
  database links for insertion attacks or other indications of
  attempted tampering.

 We are seeing MySQL table corruption as well in a 'Session' table.




 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Hi David,
 Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are
 there log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?
 To remove files from a system would leave traces of
 activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is
 usually clumsily executed and easily identified.
 It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install
 suhosin to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is
 deleting files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or
 other indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such
 as a bad day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are
 exposed to the ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there.
 Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as
 opposed to intrusion etc.

 --
 rachel polanskis
 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au

  On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
  Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
  The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web
 server.
 
  This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything
 like
  this.
 
  I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
  problems.
 
  We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like
 that.
 
  To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
  GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
  Regards
 
  David
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-02 Thread gr0ve
I would start by checking the log files under /var/log and associated web  db 
log files, especially any php logs.  Copy them offline to another system and 
look through the date stamps to see if anything matches the problems you are 
experiencing. You may notice a pattern of activity that points to malicious 
activity.  If it is file system corruption, it may be something you would have 
to check with the service provider, in the case they have moved the underlying
infrastructure to the ext4 filesystem version that has recently been found to
have a corruption issue.  There are steps
to forensically derive if your system has been tampered with, but if you see 
widespread ongoing file deletion, it is more likely something local to the 
system itself. 

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 On 2 Jun 2015, at 15:06, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Files are definitely being deleted.
 
 Which log would I look in ?
 
 It's a common Linux cpanel hosting plan.
 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are
 there log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?
 To remove files from a system would leave traces of
 activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is usually
 clumsily executed and easily identified.
 It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install
 suhosin to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is
 deleting files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or
 other indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such
 as a bad day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are
 exposed to the ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there.
 Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as
 opposed to intrusion etc.
 
 --
 rachel polanskis
 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au
 
 On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
 Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
 The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web
 server.
 
 This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything like
 this.
 
 I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
 problems.
 
 We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like that.
 
 To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
 GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
 Regards
 
 David
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Worthington

On 02/06/15 13:57, David Lyon wrote:


... steps can be taken to minimise hacking problems.


I used to run my own Moodle server until I found Viagra ads on it. I 
decided that I did not have the time needed to keep the server secure 
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-02 Thread David Lyon
 If you think a malicious actor is deleting files, check also your
 database links for insertion attacks or other indications of
 attempted tampering.

We are seeing MySQL table corruption as well in a 'Session' table.




On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Hi David,
 Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are
 there log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?
 To remove files from a system would leave traces of
 activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is usually
 clumsily executed and easily identified.
 It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install
 suhosin to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is
 deleting files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or
 other indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such
 as a bad day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are
 exposed to the ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there.
 Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as
 opposed to intrusion etc.

 --
 rachel polanskis
 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au

  On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
  Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
  The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web
 server.
 
  This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything like
  this.
 
  I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
  problems.
 
  We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like that.
 
  To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
  GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
  Regards
 
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-01 Thread gr0ve
Hi David,
Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are there 
log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?  To remove 
files from a system would leave traces of 
activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is usually 
clumsily executed and easily identified.
It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install suhosin 
to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is deleting 
files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or other 
indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such as a bad 
day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are exposed to the 
ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there. 
Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as 
opposed to intrusion etc.

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 On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
 Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
 The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web server.
 
 This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything like
 this.
 
 I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
 problems.
 
 We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like that.
 
 To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
 GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: [SLUG] How to deal with Hacker Activity ?

2015-06-01 Thread David Lyon
Files are definitely being deleted.

Which log would I look in ?

It's a common Linux cpanel hosting plan.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, gr0ve gr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Hi David,
 Are you sure the .php files are being removed by a malicious actor?  Are
 there log entries or other traces that indicate an exposure to an exploit?
 To remove files from a system would leave traces of
 activity, even remotely and subsequent tampering to cover it up is usually
 clumsily executed and easily identified.
 It would depend also on your specific php version but you could install
 suhosin to log any out of band activity.  If you think a malicious actor is
 deleting files, check also your database links for insertion attacks or
 other indications of attempted tampering.  I suspect an in house error such
 as a bad day for someone, or a rogue cron job, perhaps, or if you are
 exposed to the ext4 corruption bug on Linux, look there.
 Without more information, I always assume a more local problem first, as
 opposed to intrusion etc.

 --
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 IT Consulting, UNIX  Macintosh
 Greater Western Sydney
 gr...@exemail.com.au

  On 2 Jun 2015, at 13:57, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  One place I do work for is having trouble with Hacker activity.
 
  Let's face it, there are hacker's out there trying to take down systems.
 
  The specific issue I'm seeing is .php files vanishing from the web
 server.
 
  This is annoying and I'm wondering if any others are seeing anything like
  this.
 
  I'm also wondering what specific steps can be taken to minimise hacking
  problems.
 
  We don't have a big budget, a counter-hacking team or anything like that.
 
  To me it looks like the ISP may have been hacked in a similar way as
  GoDaddy was hacked in the US.
 
  Regards
 
  David
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Re: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3

2015-05-24 Thread James Linder

 On 25 May 2015, at 10:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43 pm, Michael McAllister m...@michaelmcallister.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a D34010WYKH as my daily driver - I'm running Arch Linux and have no 
 issues whatsoever (but my kernel is 4.0.1-1 - thanks for reminding me to 
 update!)
 
 I'm happy to provide any info at all you need (version of packages, kernel 
 modules etc), but I'd say it all comes down to your kernel.
 
 You could always move to Arch ;-)
 
 From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au slug-boun...@slug.org.au on behalf of James 
 Linder j...@tigger.ws
 Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 11:29 AM
 To: slug@slug.org.au
 Subject: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3
 
 Hi
 I’m using 14.04 on a 5th i3 NUC.
 In the last 3 days I’ve had 3 crashes, at least 1 I could ssh and reboot the 
 other 2 I could NOT ssh in.
 I am using USB3 connectors as that is all the NUC exposes. 14.04 is a 3.16 
 kernel the USB3 issues are not fixed ‘till 3.19. The graphics drivers were 
 released by intel 17 March so not in 14.04 but vesa seems to work OK.
 
 At the mo I cannot use 15.04 (I can get it to boot n run) but the sensoray 
 V4L drivers are BW not colour. I need the sensoray V4L.
 
 I’m trying to work out if my hardware is at fault or Broadwell+IRIS+14.04 is 
 at fault.
 Any comments welcome
 
 Hi Michael
 
 just to be pedantic your NUC is a 4th gen. My 4th gen works perfectly, just 
 the 5th Gen  :-(

And the latest ….53 kernel seems to work fine. …24 … …52 did not display at all 
ie blank screen

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Re: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3

2015-05-24 Thread James Linder

 On 24 May 2015, at 12:43 pm, Michael McAllister m...@michaelmcallister.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a D34010WYKH as my daily driver - I'm running Arch Linux and have no 
 issues whatsoever (but my kernel is 4.0.1-1 - thanks for reminding me to 
 update!)
 
 I'm happy to provide any info at all you need (version of packages, kernel 
 modules etc), but I'd say it all comes down to your kernel.
 
 You could always move to Arch ;-)
 
 From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au slug-boun...@slug.org.au on behalf of James 
 Linder j...@tigger.ws
 Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 11:29 AM
 To: slug@slug.org.au
 Subject: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3
 
 Hi
 I’m using 14.04 on a 5th i3 NUC.
 In the last 3 days I’ve had 3 crashes, at least 1 I could ssh and reboot the 
 other 2 I could NOT ssh in.
 I am using USB3 connectors as that is all the NUC exposes. 14.04 is a 3.16 
 kernel the USB3 issues are not fixed ‘till 3.19. The graphics drivers were 
 released by intel 17 March so not in 14.04 but vesa seems to work OK.
 
 At the mo I cannot use 15.04 (I can get it to boot n run) but the sensoray 
 V4L drivers are BW not colour. I need the sensoray V4L.
 
 I’m trying to work out if my hardware is at fault or Broadwell+IRIS+14.04 is 
 at fault.
 Any comments welcome

Hi Michael

just to be pedantic your NUC is a 4th gen. My 4th gen works perfectly, just the 
5th Gen  :-(

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Re: [SLUG] slug Digest, Vol 112, Issue 3

2015-05-23 Thread James Linder

 On 24 May 2015, at 10:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 I was asked to help with 'no space on startup disk' issue, only to discover 
 it's a Mac, I have no experience with Mac,
 
 df showed 100% utilization on built in 500gb hard drive, 
 I've transferred some user data to external drive, now have 97% 
 
 What's a minimum hard disk free space one should maintain on a Mac?

Just the same as ordinary unix boxen (typically 20%)

 
 This runs OSX 10 7 5,  to upgrade to Yosemite, is it just 'click and watch'? 
 How much free space should I make before attempting upgrade?
 
 Are there any good housekeeping utilities to use, going through some apps, 
 I've found a photo app with over 1 gb of deleted photos.
 (something like ccleaner ?) Any hard disk area to check for junk, like temp 
 in windoze?
 
 Thanks for any pointers

Even though apple are SHontTs and the scum of the earth to wit they DO make 
nice hardware and some nice SW.

Timemachine is easy to use, (much much nicer than anything we’ve got). DO a 
timemachine backup before *anything*.
WD make a USB (and USB powered) 1T ‘Passport’ $89 JB HiFi

I’ve not measured but my opinion is that you need 25% free. If you told me 50% 
i’d not argue.

If (click n watch fails)
Install Yosemite - use timemachine 
Will install yosemite and restore your machine (almost) exactly as it was. 
Mail, passwords, you *may* need to enter the license key for some stuff eg MS 
Word

Once you have a TM backup you can slash-n-burn to get 50% free, upgrade, 
restore.

You can easily install to an external drive eg my mac mini runs on a 2G WD 
Passport and has another as timemachine (oh the 500G internal disk? sorta 
ignored). I cannot notice any degradation (but unix does do that LRU cache)

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Re: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3

2015-05-23 Thread Michael McAllister
Hello,

I have a D34010WYKH as my daily driver - I'm running Arch Linux and have no 
issues whatsoever (but my kernel is 4.0.1-1 - thanks for reminding me to 
update!)

I'm happy to provide any info at all you need (version of packages, kernel 
modules etc), but I'd say it all comes down to your kernel.
 
You could always move to Arch ;-)

From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au slug-boun...@slug.org.au on behalf of James 
Linder j...@tigger.ws
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 11:29 AM
To: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: [SLUG] 5th Gen i3

Hi
I’m using 14.04 on a 5th i3 NUC.
In the last 3 days I’ve had 3 crashes, at least 1 I could ssh and reboot the 
other 2 I could NOT ssh in.
I am using USB3 connectors as that is all the NUC exposes. 14.04 is a 3.16 
kernel the USB3 issues are not fixed ‘till 3.19. The graphics drivers were 
released by intel 17 March so not in 14.04 but vesa seems to work OK.

At the mo I cannot use 15.04 (I can get it to boot n run) but the sensoray V4L 
drivers are BW not colour. I need the sensoray V4L.

I’m trying to work out if my hardware is at fault or Broadwell+IRIS+14.04 is at 
fault.
Any comments welcome

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Re: [SLUG] OT: Mac OSX upgrade and general housekeeping

2015-05-22 Thread James Gray

 On 23 May 2015, at 12:53 pm, Voytek li...@sbt.net.au wrote:
 
 I was asked to help with 'no space on startup disk' issue, only to discover 
 it's a Mac, I have no experience with Mac,
 
 df showed 100% utilization on built in 500gb hard drive, 
 I've transferred some user data to external drive, now have 97% 

Common problem is when people turn on Time Machine, then for whatever reason 
don’t connect the external drive to the system for a lounge time.  OS X will 
create a whole bunch of offline backups waiting for the next time the time 
machine volume is available.  Here’s a good starting point: 
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204015

 What's a minimum hard disk free space one should maintain on a Mac?

I generally use a 10% rule-of-thumb regardless of the OS.  Maybe a little more 
if you have logs and temporary data on the same volume as your startup drive.  
In Linux, I usually keep “/“ and  “/boot” away from “/var” for instance, in 
which case I can comfortably maintain 10% or even less free as the data is 
mostly static. 

 This runs OSX 10 7 5,  to upgrade to Yosemite, is it just 'click and watch'? 
 How much free space should I make before attempting upgrade?

Not sure about inline upgrades from 10.7 straight to 10.10.  You can always go 
to the app store, download 10.10 the run the bootable media creation utility:
sudo /Applications/Install OS X 
Yosemite.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia”

sage: createinstallmedia --volume path to volume to convert --applicationpath 
path to Install OS X Yosemite.app [--force]

Arguments--volume, A path to a volume that can be unmounted and erased to 
create the install media.
--applicationpath, A path to copy of the OS installer application to create the 
bootable media from.
--nointeraction, Erase the disk pointed to by volume without prompting for 
confirmation.

Example: createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath 
/Applications/Install OS X Yosemite.app

 Are there any good housekeeping utilities to use, going through some apps, 
 I've found a photo app with over 1 g of deleted photos.
 (something like ccleaner ?) Any hard disk area to check for junk, like temp 
 in windoze?

There’s a few around, but I found, generally speaking, OS X does a pretty good 
job of looking after itself.  Certain applications can be big disk hogs though 
- iPhoto, iMovie and iTunes spring to mind.  They generally have their own 
“deleted stuff” which if you don’t clear out in the application itself won’t be 
released when you empty the normal “Trash” on OS X.

Having said all that, “Disk Inventory X” is a GPL tool that will show you where 
all the space has gone: http://www.derlien.com - check it out, it works well.  
As for getting rid of stuff remember OS X is a fully-fledged Unix so most of 
the familiar command line tools are available in a terminal :)

 Thanks for any pointers

No worries - hope it helps :)

Cheers,

James

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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for Australian Based VPS

2015-03-25 Thread Amos Shapira
1. Have you tried asking on Whirlpool forums? They got plenty of
experienced people there.
2. I just started using Exigent for web hosting (not vps) and so far they
are cheap and deliver. They also have VPS options. They got reports of
improving over time on Whirlpool.

--Amos

On 25 March 2015 at 11:04, Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 09:15:55AM +1000, Rick Phillips wrote:
  I will be moving my premises to a new site but have to wait until
  construction is completed.  My premises are sold and under contract
  so I need to find a temporary home for my services.  A VPS is
  probably the best option right now and so I am looking for
  recommendations.

 I've had good experiences with MammothVPS  http://www.mammoth.net.au/

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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for Australian Based VPS

2015-03-25 Thread Ben

Hi Rick,

Micron21 are excellent!

You can phone and talk to a human techo at the premises in Melbourne.

Fast and professional.

micron21.com.au

I've been using their services for years.

Ben





On 25/03/15 10:15, Rick Phillips wrote:

Hi all,

I run a small hosting service for about a dozen rural based customers.

I will be moving my premises to a new site but have to wait until 
construction is completed.  My premises are sold and under contract so 
I need to find a temporary home for my services.  A VPS is probably 
the best option right now and so I am looking for recommendations.


I will need 100Gb disc space, 4 CPUs, 4Gb RAM and at least 200Gb 
traffic (includes in and out).  The VPS will be fully managed by 
myself and I do require CentOS 7.


Anyone with good stories?

Regards,

Rick


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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for Australian Based VPS

2015-03-25 Thread Jake Anderson

On 25/03/15 10:15, Rick Phillips wrote:

Hi all,

I run a small hosting service for about a dozen rural based customers.

I will be moving my premises to a new site but have to wait until 
construction is completed.  My premises are sold and under contract so 
I need to find a temporary home for my services.  A VPS is probably 
the best option right now and so I am looking for recommendations.


I will need 100Gb disc space, 4 CPUs, 4Gb RAM and at least 200Gb 
traffic (includes in and out).  The VPS will be fully managed by 
myself and I do require CentOS 7.


Anyone with good stories?

Regards,

Rick

I'm using binary lane and ransomit
https://www.binarylane.com.au/
https://www.ransomit.com.au/

Binary lane has had a few problems in the past few months but it seems 
they have gotten that sorted.


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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for Australian Based VPS

2015-03-25 Thread Rick Phillips

On 26/03/15 07:57, Jake Anderson wrote:

On 25/03/15 10:15, Rick Phillips wrote:

Hi all,

I run a small hosting service for about a dozen rural based customers.

I will be moving my premises to a new site but have to wait until 
construction is completed.  My premises are sold and under contract 
so I need to find a temporary home for my services.  A VPS is 
probably the best option right now and so I am looking for 
recommendations.


I will need 100Gb disc space, 4 CPUs, 4Gb RAM and at least 200Gb 
traffic (includes in and out).  The VPS will be fully managed by 
myself and I do require CentOS 7.


Anyone with good stories?

Regards,

Rick

I'm using binary lane and ransomit
https://www.binarylane.com.au/
https://www.ransomit.com.au/

Binary lane has had a few problems in the past few months but it seems 
they have gotten that sorted.


Thanks to all who have replied.  I have plenty of good info to work with 
now.  I find it better to work with info provided by people who have had 
or are having good experiences.  Special thanks to Lubos for his links - 
there is some very useful stuff there.


Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] Mac Air advice

2015-03-24 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 24 Mar 2015, at 23:09, Voytek li...@sbt.net.au wrote:
 Is there any advantage in getting Apple optical drive over a third party 
 optical drive?

I solved that conundrum by not using an optical drive at all (I don’t even miss 
it), so I’m afraid I have no opinion there.

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Re: [SLUG] Mac Air advice

2015-03-24 Thread Voytek


On 24 March 2015 6:11:47 pm AEDT, Jeremy Visser jer...@sunriseroad.net wrote:

Jeremy, Rachel, 
thanks for the info.

after-the-fact because it is soldered to the motherboard

Thanks for pointing this out.

Is there any advantage in getting Apple optical drive over a third party 
optical drive?

I had a choice between an Intel i5 or i7 when I bought mine, but I feel
the i7 was a waste because the laptop overheats when doing anything
CPU-intensive like encoding video, so the extra CPU grunt is not worth
it in my opinion.

But then again, you can't upgrade after-the-fact, so if you can afford
the optional extra, go for it.

Put it this way: I don't regret spending the extra money on the i7 even
though I don't need it.  But I do massively regret not spending the
extra money on the RAM because now it is too late.

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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for Australian Based VPS

2015-03-24 Thread Nick Andrew
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 09:15:55AM +1000, Rick Phillips wrote:
 I will be moving my premises to a new site but have to wait until
 construction is completed.  My premises are sold and under contract
 so I need to find a temporary home for my services.  A VPS is
 probably the best option right now and so I am looking for
 recommendations.

I've had good experiences with MammothVPS  http://www.mammoth.net.au/

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Re: [SLUG] Mac Air advice

2015-03-24 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 24/03/15 14:02, Voytek wrote:
 Someone had asked me for Mac Air advice, know nothing about Mac,
 looking on Apple site, only choices I see is faster CPU, more RAM,
 more storage.
 
 more RAM and more storage, yes, is it worthwhile for a faster CUP?

Max out the RAM when you buy it because you cannot upgrade it after-the-fact 
because it is soldered to the motherboard (unlike the MacBook Pro, or most 
other laptops).

I had a choice between an Intel i5 or i7 when I bought mine, but I feel the i7 
was a waste because the laptop overheats when doing anything CPU-intensive like 
encoding video, so the extra CPU grunt is not worth it in my opinion.

But then again, you can't upgrade after-the-fact, so if you can afford the 
optional extra, go for it.

Put it this way: I don't regret spending the extra money on the i7 even though 
I don't need it.  But I do massively regret not spending the extra money on the 
RAM because now it is too late.
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Re: [SLUG] Processing Error

2015-03-11 Thread James Gray

 On 11 Mar 2015, at 4:53 pm, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The command was
 
 latex root.tex
 
 The error message was
 
 ! Font TS1/cmr/m/n/12=tcrm1200 at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
 not found.
 
 Presumably, I'm missing a font.
 
 Can anyone suggest a remedy, please?

Not sure if this helps, but there’s a bug in mismatch that you may be hitting:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=738386

Good luck!

James

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Re: [SLUG] Spellchecking

2015-02-19 Thread Rachel Polanskis
On 20 Feb 2015, at 1:33 pm, Michael Chesterton che...@chesterton.id.au wrote:


I have started using “enchant” for the claws-mail OSX port I am working on.
I had to hunt for the en_AU dictionary for it which is sourced from aspell.

I think enchant is just a refreshed version of aspell, but I know ispell is 
a bit ancient now and not as reliable.


rachel


 On 16/02/15 17:15, William Bennett wrote:
 Up to now, I've always felt that ispell was pretty good.
 
 But I thought I'd enquire.
 
 Has anybody experience with any others?
 
 William Bennett.
 
 I use ispell in irssi, and it's not that good at unravelling the noodliness
 of my mind and guessing what I meant to spell.
 
 If one character is wrong, it will make the right suggestion, but if
 two characters are wrong, forget about it. If ispell can't make a
 suggestion, I then I google it, and google always knows what I meant
 to spell. Pretty scary.
 
 here's a weird example:
 
 dribl
 
 ispell says
 
  dribl 5 0: drib, dribs, drib l, drib-l, drill
 
 aspell says
 
  dribl 19 0: dribble, drably, tribal, drill, dribbler, drivel, drub,
 durable, durably, dbl, driblet, droll, drool, drab, treble, drawl,
 trial, tribe, trill
 
 I have heard in the past aspell is better, and I would concur.


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Re: [SLUG] Spellchecking

2015-02-19 Thread Michael Chesterton
On 16/02/15 17:15, William Bennett wrote:
 Up to now, I've always felt that ispell was pretty good.

 But I thought I'd enquire.

 Has anybody experience with any others?

 William Bennett.

I use ispell in irssi, and it's not that good at unravelling the noodliness
of my mind and guessing what I meant to spell.

If one character is wrong, it will make the right suggestion, but if
two characters are wrong, forget about it. If ispell can't make a
suggestion, I then I google it, and google always knows what I meant
to spell. Pretty scary.

here's a weird example:

dribl

ispell says

 dribl 5 0: drib, dribs, drib l, drib-l, drill

aspell says

 dribl 19 0: dribble, drably, tribal, drill, dribbler, drivel, drub,
durable, durably, dbl, driblet, droll, drool, drab, treble, drawl,
trial, tribe, trill

I have heard in the past aspell is better, and I would concur.



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Re: [SLUG] Firefox and Chrome problems

2015-02-18 Thread Lubos Rendek
Hi Heracles,

I'm not sure whether you are still looking for a solution but I got
the same issue where the symptoms are frequent and random hangs for
about 10 - 30 seconds while rest of the system and chrome browser
functions normally. I believe that I got it resolved with a firefox
refresh feature.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings#
I did not see any Firefox hangs for about 4 days after refresh so I
think Firefox Refresh is worth to try to resolve your issue.

hope it helps

Lubos

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have been having a problem with Firefox. It keeps stopping on me. I don't
 think it locks up as sometimes it continues on after a while but mostly this
 is between 20 minutes and an hour.

 I have removed and reinstalled it several times but still have the problem.

 I became frustrated and installed Chrome which works well for everything
 except embedded videos and youtube. When I ask it to play either it usually
 starts the audio three (3) times with about a second delay between them. It
 is as though it is starting up several occasions of a player with only one
 visible.

 Has anyone else had this problem and, perhaps, solved it?

 Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Happy New Year to you ALL

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Re: [SLUG] Good, the Bad and the Ugly of hosted Shopping Carts

2015-02-16 Thread Darin McLean
Depends on your requirements but either WooCommerce (in Wordpress) or
OpenCart are quite good. Both have hosted solutions from 3rd party
providers.

Darin

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au
 wrote:

 Any suggestions/thoughts on open source hosted E-Commerce/Shopping carts?

 I am currently looking at my ISPs offering of Assentia but I don't think
 it is Open Source
 http://www.assentia.com.au/

 An article in CIO lists Agora Shopping Cart, Broadleaf, Commerce.CGI,
 Loaded Commerce, Magento, OpenCart, osCommerce Online Merchant, PrestaShop,
 Zen Cart, Zeuscart
 http://www.cio.com/article/2400389/open-source-tools/10-
 open-source-shopping-carts-to-run-your-ecommerce-business.html

 Open Source E-Commerce Shopping Carts – Best of the pack: OsCommerce
 (PHP/MySQL), Zen Cart (PHP/MySQL), Agora Cart..
 http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/open-source-e-commerce-
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Re: [SLUG] Good, the Bad and the Ugly of hosted Shopping Carts

2015-02-16 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

Thanks Darin,

I will look at both.

The client is a micro business. Ease of managing Inventory and processing Orders as well as support 
are an ongoing issue, so a preference for a local hosted solution, possibly ahead of Open Source 
(which would be unfortunate).


Marghanita

On 17/02/15 10:09, Darin McLean wrote:

Depends on your requirements but either WooCommerce (in Wordpress) or
OpenCart are quite good. Both have hosted solutions from 3rd party
providers.

Darin

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au

wrote:



Any suggestions/thoughts on open source hosted E-Commerce/Shopping carts?

I am currently looking at my ISPs offering of Assentia but I don't think
it is Open Source
http://www.assentia.com.au/

An article in CIO lists Agora Shopping Cart, Broadleaf, Commerce.CGI,
Loaded Commerce, Magento, OpenCart, osCommerce Online Merchant, PrestaShop,
Zen Cart, Zeuscart
http://www.cio.com/article/2400389/open-source-tools/10-
open-source-shopping-carts-to-run-your-ecommerce-business.html

Open Source E-Commerce Shopping Carts – Best of the pack: OsCommerce
(PHP/MySQL), Zen Cart (PHP/MySQL), Agora Cart..
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/open-source-e-commerce-
shopping-carts-best-of/

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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread Amos Shapira
On 11 February 2015 at 11:39, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 02/10/2015 05:32 PM, David Lyon wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a working Zentyal server and everything is fine except that I need
  to deploy Python Imaging Library to it, and it doesn't work.
 
  apt-get is for some reason broken.
 
  I get the following error message with sudo apt-get install
 python2.7-dev
  or any command:
 
  E: Internal Error, No file name for libmount1

 Try this:
 sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
   then
 sudo dpkg --configure -a


Ouch Don't!

These are configuration files. If you want to clear this directory then
copy these files to another location and remove them from this directory.



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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread Amos Shapira
I'd call these configuration files, and in any case something you don't
want to just wipe out out right without a way to restore.

Why do you propose to remove them anyway? apt-get complains about an
internal error. Your original response is identical to
http://askubuntu.com/a/337795, which someone reported to work for them
without the rm -f.

I'd say - try the sudo dpkg --configure -a by itself first.

Back to the original question - google'ing the error comes up with threads
which indicate post-upgrade troubles. Have you gone through a major upgrade
recently?

On 11 February 2015 at 14:21, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 02/10/2015 09:19 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
  On 11 February 2015 at 11:39, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  On 02/10/2015 05:32 PM, David Lyon wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a working Zentyal server and everything is fine except that I
 need
  to deploy Python Imaging Library to it, and it doesn't work.
 
  apt-get is for some reason broken.
 
  I get the following error message with sudo apt-get install
  python2.7-dev
  or any command:
 
  E: Internal Error, No file name for libmount1
 
  Try this:
  sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
then
  sudo dpkg --configure -a
 
 
  Ouch Don't!
 
  These are configuration files. If you want to clear this directory then
  copy these files to another location and remove them from this directory.
 
 The sources.list.d directory is almost always PPA's the user has added.
 There are no configuration files in there.
 
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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread David Lyon
Ah see this is how it got like this.

Search how to fix   type all those commands in without understanding
any of it.. ok - doesn't work... move to the next web page... repeat..

Anyway, they don't want to pay for time to do a fresh install. It's almost
a management decision to allow a reboot.

Installing packages manually works, but no automatic download and install
anymore.

The problem was initially caused by a Zentyal specific library failing
(suricata). Not worth fixing.

Thanks .. :-)

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I'd call these configuration files, and in any case something you don't
 want to just wipe out out right without a way to restore.

 Why do you propose to remove them anyway? apt-get complains about an
 internal error. Your original response is identical to
 http://askubuntu.com/a/337795, which someone reported to work for them
 without the rm -f.

 I'd say - try the sudo dpkg --configure -a by itself first.

 Back to the original question - google'ing the error comes up with threads
 which indicate post-upgrade troubles. Have you gone through a major upgrade
 recently?

 On 11 February 2015 at 14:21, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:

  On 02/10/2015 09:19 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
   On 11 February 2015 at 11:39, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:
  
   On 02/10/2015 05:32 PM, David Lyon wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have a working Zentyal server and everything is fine except that I
  need
   to deploy Python Imaging Library to it, and it doesn't work.
  
   apt-get is for some reason broken.
  
   I get the following error message with sudo apt-get install
   python2.7-dev
   or any command:
  
   E: Internal Error, No file name for libmount1
  
   Try this:
   sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
 then
   sudo dpkg --configure -a
  
  
   Ouch Don't!
  
   These are configuration files. If you want to clear this directory then
   copy these files to another location and remove them from this
 directory.
  
  The sources.list.d directory is almost always PPA's the user has added.
  There are no configuration files in there.
  
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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread scott
On 02/10/2015 09:19 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
 On 11 February 2015 at 11:39, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 On 02/10/2015 05:32 PM, David Lyon wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a working Zentyal server and everything is fine except that I need
 to deploy Python Imaging Library to it, and it doesn't work.

 apt-get is for some reason broken.

 I get the following error message with sudo apt-get install
 python2.7-dev
 or any command:

 E: Internal Error, No file name for libmount1

 Try this:
 sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
   then
 sudo dpkg --configure -a

 
 Ouch Don't!
 
 These are configuration files. If you want to clear this directory then
 copy these files to another location and remove them from this directory.
 
The sources.list.d directory is almost always PPA's the user has added.
There are no configuration files in there.

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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 11/02/15 11:39, scott wrote: Try this:
 sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
 then
 sudo dpkg --configure -a

Why are you suggesting the user _blindly_ wipe the sources.list.d directory?

That is irresponsible at best.

On 11/02/15 14:21, scott wrote:
 The sources.list.d directory is almost always PPA's the user has added.
 There are no configuration files in there.

Sometimes third-party software (Google Chrome is the most popular, but others 
do it too) install their 'deb' lines into sources.list.d too, so by wiping that 
directory blindly you're potentially missing out on vital security updates.

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Re: [SLUG] Strange behaviour of Chrome

2015-02-10 Thread Amos Shapira
Are you sure you got the youtube page open only once? No other tabs or
windows?


On 10 February 2015 at 17:25, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:


 On 10/02/15 17:08, scott wrote:

 On 02/10/2015 01:03 AM, Heracles wrote:

 When I look at a youtube video in chrome it seems to start the audio
 three times. I get the start of the video with sound, then the audio
 starts up a second time and then a third time with each about a second
 or so behind the next. It means that I have to start videos and then
 pause them until the other audio stops before actually playing the one
 on the screen.

 Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas how to solve it?
 I'm using enlightenment on what calls itself Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.

 Ashley

  Can you reproduce it in Firefox or any other browser? Or is it just
 Chrome?
 Do you delete cookies when you close Chrome?


  Thanks Scott,
 Unfortunately, Firefox locks up on my system since I updated to 14.04.
 That is why I switched to Chrome.
 I'll try wiping the cookies.

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Re: [SLUG] Fixing broken apt-get on Zentyal (Ubuntu)

2015-02-10 Thread scott
On 02/10/2015 05:32 PM, David Lyon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a working Zentyal server and everything is fine except that I need
 to deploy Python Imaging Library to it, and it doesn't work.
 
 apt-get is for some reason broken.
 
 I get the following error message with sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev
 or any command:
 
 E: Internal Error, No file name for libmount1

Try this:
sudo rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
  then
sudo dpkg --configure -a

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Re: [SLUG] Strange behaviour of Chrome

2015-02-10 Thread Heracles


On 11/02/15 09:43, Amos Shapira wrote:
Are you sure you got the youtube page open only once? No other tabs or 
windows?


Absolutely sure. I've noticed it happens only to certain videos. Some 
work fine - not sure why.




On 10 February 2015 at 17:25, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au 
mailto:herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:



On 10/02/15 17:08, scott wrote:

On 02/10/2015 01:03 AM, Heracles wrote:

When I look at a youtube video in chrome it seems to start
the audio
three times. I get the start of the video with sound, then
the audio
starts up a second time and then a third time with each
about a second
or so behind the next. It means that I have to start
videos and then
pause them until the other audio stops before actually
playing the one
on the screen.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas how to
solve it?
I'm using enlightenment on what calls itself Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.

Ashley


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Re: [SLUG] Strange behaviour of Chrome

2015-02-09 Thread Heracles


On 10/02/15 17:08, scott wrote:

On 02/10/2015 01:03 AM, Heracles wrote:

When I look at a youtube video in chrome it seems to start the audio
three times. I get the start of the video with sound, then the audio
starts up a second time and then a third time with each about a second
or so behind the next. It means that I have to start videos and then
pause them until the other audio stops before actually playing the one
on the screen.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas how to solve it?
I'm using enlightenment on what calls itself Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.

Ashley


Can you reproduce it in Firefox or any other browser? Or is it just Chrome?
Do you delete cookies when you close Chrome?



Thanks Scott,
Unfortunately, Firefox locks up on my system since I updated to 14.04. 
That is why I switched to Chrome.

I'll try wiping the cookies.
Ashley


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Re: [SLUG] Speech recognition

2015-01-29 Thread j...@tigger.ws


On 30/01/15 09:00, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

There's nothing ever that comes close - and believe me,  the company I work
for tries everything which comes on the market.

It's not perfect - nothing is - but if you work at it,  you*can*  train it
to probably 98% accuracy.

They*do*  have an SDK, from which you could*possibly*  write something
native for Linux - but it'd need to be developed on Windoze and ported,
because everything native they have is designed for it.

DaZZa
On 29/01/2015 5:10 PM, William Bennettwrbennet...@gmail.com  wrote:


I was looking for some speech recognition software for use with Ubuntu.

I was told not to overlook Dragon's package, running under WINE.

Also one called palaver.

And some others.

Has anybody any experience of this type of software?


I've used native (I installed Win 7 to try it) and under VirtualBox. 
Both have the same performance.

(a) dragon is the best
(b) dragon is terrid

I did the 1/2 hour Alice down the Rabbit Hole training Then Said
The sky is blue the sea turquoise Dragon translated as Blue men stand 
in a tall sea (The translation is para phrased, it was unadulterated 
rubbish with occasional words recognised)


VirtualBox is very suitable for this sort of fiddling. Dragon was hard 
to get running, I would not even consider wine.
(Many hours to their help desk until a really savy engineer helping out 
on help desk solved and walked me through the install)

CrossOver give it a bronze.
My samsung android (but that is huge infra structure) gets 95% correct 
so I guess my slurred uninteligble speech *can* be done.


My mate loves dragon, I guess he has learned how-to-talk to dragon!
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Re: [SLUG] Speech recognition

2015-01-28 Thread DaZZa
Dragon is pretty much the industry benchmark.

There's nothing ever that comes close - and believe me,  the company I work
for tries everything which comes on the market.

It's not perfect - nothing is - but if you work at it,  you *can* train it
to probably 98% accuracy.

They *do* have an SDK, from which you could *possibly* write something
native for Linux - but it'd need to be developed on Windoze and ported,
because everything native they have is designed for it.

DaZZa
On 29/01/2015 5:10 PM, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was looking for some speech recognition software for use with Ubuntu.

 I was told not to overlook Dragon's package, running under WINE.

 Also one called palaver.

 And some others.

 Has anybody any experience of this type of software?


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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-26 Thread Jake Anderson

On 24/01/15 13:41, James Linder wrote:

On 24 Jan 2015, at 9:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

So, having absorbed, from my friends,  the dangers of partially recharging
a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert that came with
the new laptop battery:  –

“Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat rather than
charge/discharge patterns.”

Terry Pratchett: He does know Big Words after all he is a dealer …

Battery Technology is VERY complex, so either you become a guru or you believe 
the manufacturer.

lithium-ion is complex enough that I cannot believe that a manufacturer would 
make a charger that does not do the right thing. (lithium-ion-phosphate may 
NEVER be flattened, so even more complex)

Battery manufacturers primarily compete on capacity on the date of purchase.
If the battery lasts 18 months instead of 2 years most of the time the 
short lived cell isn't going to be held against the manufacturer.


Discharging any lithium chemistry cell to 0 volts will pretty much 
destroy it.





The only severe rule for mortals is to never charge A sort batteries with a B 
sort charger the consequences are fire and explosion.

I opine that you may use the laptop permenantly 'on charge’ yet I have seen a 
disportionate number of dead laptop
batteries contradicting what I say above.

General Rule #1: Every time you flattern a battery you use up a percentage of 
it’s life.

The ideal charger would keep the batteries at 99% charged allowing you to 
always charge (not 100% because the 100% level is temperature dependant and you 
don’t want to go to 101% because the day warmed or cooled)
So if you have bought a system with a lessor charger you will buy batteries, 
the more you play the better the battery life, but like death and taxes dead 
battries.

James
I have seen some phones and laptops (very rare) that won't charge if the 
battery is above 90something %, those ones you could leave on charge 
without damaging them.

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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-23 Thread James Linder

 On 24 Jan 2015, at 9:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 So, having absorbed, from my friends,  the dangers of partially recharging
 a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert that came with
 the new laptop battery:  –
 
 “Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
 there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat rather than
 charge/discharge patterns.”

Terry Pratchett: He does know Big Words after all he is a dealer …

Battery Technology is VERY complex, so either you become a guru or you believe 
the manufacturer.

lithium-ion is complex enough that I cannot believe that a manufacturer would 
make a charger that does not do the right thing. (lithium-ion-phosphate may 
NEVER be flattened, so even more complex)

The only severe rule for mortals is to never charge A sort batteries with a B 
sort charger the consequences are fire and explosion.

I opine that you may use the laptop permenantly 'on charge’ yet I have seen a 
disportionate number of dead laptop
batteries contradicting what I say above.

General Rule #1: Every time you flattern a battery you use up a percentage of 
it’s life.

The ideal charger would keep the batteries at 99% charged allowing you to 
always charge (not 100% because the 100% level is temperature dependant and you 
don’t want to go to 101% because the day warmed or cooled)
So if you have bought a system with a lessor charger you will buy batteries, 
the more you play the better the battery life, but like death and taxes dead 
battries.

James

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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-23 Thread Jake Anderson

over discharging will cause damage
over charging will also cause damage (but less so)


If the laptop is going to sit on your desk plugged into power for 90% of 
its life, run the battery down a bit (like to 50% charge), then turn the 
laptop off and take the battery out (assuming you want it to last when 
you go on the road), Once every few months, charge it up, run it down to 
about 20%, charge it again, then run it back down to 50% and take it 
out. Leaving the thing on charge all the time will generally kill it.


The more you discharge the battery the less lifespan it will have, so if 
you can charge it at 50% all the time (assuming you are a regular user 
of said battery) it'll last longer than if you discharge it to flat 
every time. I reckon with modern batteries 30% charge is probably a good 
cutoff point in terms of cycle life vs calendar life.


Every once in a while running it down to flat or nearly so then charging 
again isn't a bad thing, it'll slightly increase the capacity (this is a 
real effect, we see it on unpackaged lipoly cells we use in robots, its 
not the memory effect, its something else, but a cell thats been sitting 
for a while or only lightly used will gain ~30% capacity with some 
exercise) and more importantly let the fancy chips in the battery 
re-calibrate their calculation of the capacity of the battery.


generally discharging or charging cause damage, but the damage gets 
worse the further from the middle you go, when they want a really long 
life from cells, they run them just around the middle range, like from 
40% charge to 80% charge, with consumer lithium cells you will generally 
hit calendar life issues before cycle life if you don't go nuts.



btw the memory effect is a specific thing for nicad cells that was 
discovered when the batteries were discharged to *exactly* the same 
point over and over again (say 20% state of charge), then when expected 
to discharge past that point they had practically no remaining capacity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect#True_memory_effect

On 23/01/15 18:15, William Bennett wrote:

Menno,

Thanks for the information.

I will add this: you'd be surprised how many computer experts,
professionals included,

labouring under this misapprehension.

I asked around because I had been told of the existence of “memory”, but
felt that the

manufacturers should know what they were talking about.


William.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com
wrote:


So, having absorbed, from my friends,  the dangers of partially
recharging a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert that
came with the new laptop battery:  –

“Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat rather than
charge/discharge patterns.”

Um, who's right?

William Bennett,
Armidale.



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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-23 Thread Jake Anderson

I should probably add,
Really new, and perhaps better quality laptops /may/ have better charge 
circuits, that won't try and charge a 95% charged battery again, thus 
saving it from the early death suffered from leaving the battery in a 
wall powered laptop.
Generally speaking you should expect ~30% battery capacity loss after a 
year, and ~50% or more after 2 years in a battery that has been looked 
after but still used, better quality cells will fair better than this.


On 24/01/15 01:44, Jake Anderson wrote:

over discharging will cause damage
over charging will also cause damage (but less so)


If the laptop is going to sit on your desk plugged into power for 90% 
of its life, run the battery down a bit (like to 50% charge), then 
turn the laptop off and take the battery out (assuming you want it to 
last when you go on the road), Once every few months, charge it up, 
run it down to about 20%, charge it again, then run it back down to 
50% and take it out. Leaving the thing on charge all the time will 
generally kill it.


The more you discharge the battery the less lifespan it will have, so 
if you can charge it at 50% all the time (assuming you are a regular 
user of said battery) it'll last longer than if you discharge it to 
flat every time. I reckon with modern batteries 30% charge is probably 
a good cutoff point in terms of cycle life vs calendar life.


Every once in a while running it down to flat or nearly so then 
charging again isn't a bad thing, it'll slightly increase the capacity 
(this is a real effect, we see it on unpackaged lipoly cells we use in 
robots, its not the memory effect, its something else, but a cell 
thats been sitting for a while or only lightly used will gain ~30% 
capacity with some exercise) and more importantly let the fancy 
chips in the battery re-calibrate their calculation of the capacity of 
the battery.


generally discharging or charging cause damage, but the damage gets 
worse the further from the middle you go, when they want a really long 
life from cells, they run them just around the middle range, like from 
40% charge to 80% charge, with consumer lithium cells you will 
generally hit calendar life issues before cycle life if you don't go 
nuts.



btw the memory effect is a specific thing for nicad cells that was 
discovered when the batteries were discharged to *exactly* the same 
point over and over again (say 20% state of charge), then when 
expected to discharge past that point they had practically no 
remaining capacity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect#True_memory_effect

On 23/01/15 18:15, William Bennett wrote:

Menno,

Thanks for the information.

I will add this: you'd be surprised how many computer experts,
professionals included,

labouring under this misapprehension.

I asked around because I had been told of the existence of “memory”, but
felt that the

manufacturers should know what they were talking about.


William.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com
wrote:


So, having absorbed, from my friends, the dangers of partially
recharging a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert 
that

came with the new laptop battery:  –

“Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat 
rather than

charge/discharge patterns.”

Um, who's right?

William Bennett,
Armidale.





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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-22 Thread Menno Schaaf
No memory on Lithium batteries, that was an effect you would see on
Nickel-Cadmium batteries and in a more limited sense Nickel-Metal-Hydride.

Only issues with Lithium batteries is they like to be kept cool, and the
best long term storage charge amount is about 30%, not full.

Menno

On 23 January 2015 at 16:42, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, having absorbed, from my friends,  the dangers of partially recharging
 a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert that came with
 the new laptop battery:  –

 “Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
 there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat rather than
 charge/discharge patterns.”

 Um, who's right?

 William Bennett,
 Armidale.
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Re: [SLUG] Question on lithium ion batteries.

2015-01-22 Thread William Bennett
Menno,

Thanks for the information.

I will add this: you'd be surprised how many computer experts,
professionals included,

labouring under this misapprehension.

I asked around because I had been told of the existence of “memory”, but
felt that the

manufacturers should know what they were talking about.


William.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com
wrote:

 So, having absorbed, from my friends,  the dangers of partially
 recharging a  lithium-ion battery due to “memory”, I read the insert that
 came with the new laptop battery:  –

 “Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because
 there is no memory. Short battery life is mainly caused by heat rather than
 charge/discharge patterns.”

 Um, who's right?

 William Bennett,
 Armidale.

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Re: [SLUG] Firefox and Chrome problems

2015-01-15 Thread Rick Welykochy

Heracles wrote:

Hi All,
I have been having a problem with Firefox. It keeps stopping on me. I don't 
think it locks up as sometimes it continues on after a while but mostly this is 
between 20 minutes and an hour.

I have removed and reinstalled it several times but still have the problem.

I became frustrated and installed Chrome which works well for everything except embedded videos and youtube. When I ask it to play either it usually starts the audio three (3) times with about a 
second delay between them. It is as though it is starting up several occasions of a player with only one visible.


Has anyone else had this problem and, perhaps, solved it?

Any ideas would be appreciated.


This is a long shot, but I'll throw in my experience with similar behaviour 
years
ago.

My display would freeze once in a while running Linux and X. Drove me batty. I 
searched
the web for a solution and found that the video driver for my specific display 
did have a
timing loop bug in a race condition that could cause a random freeze.

I suggest you search the web for problems associated with the specific display 
(by model
number) that you are using to see if there are similar complaints. And perhaps 
a driver
update or configuration change to your X Window may solve the problem.


cheers
rickw

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Re: [SLUG] ot: saving embeded video stream file ?

2015-01-15 Thread lists
On Tue, January 13, 2015 6:06 pm, Rick Welykochy wrote:

 any tips how to do that..?

 If you give us the URL of the video page, we can probably be of more
 assistance. All sorts of methods are used (some tricky) to embed a video
 in a web page. Have a look at the video or embed tags in the HTML, or
 in Javascript code on the page.

http://szczecin.tvp.pl/18395641/maria-antonina-boniecka-100115


 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/

On Tue, January 13, 2015 10:01 am, I wrote:
 ...?
 In Firefox you can right click to inspect the element which gives me the
 answer to that sort of question otherwise I use Snaggit to capture it
 whilst it's playing which is quite good.

Rob, Rick, thanks, I'll try the plugin and Snagit

thanks again

V

I'll try Snaggit and the plugin, as it was, the person who sent me the
link had a


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Re: [SLUG] ot: saving embeded video stream file ?

2015-01-12 Thread Rick Welykochy

li...@sbt.net.au wrote:

I was give an url to an overseas TV page, it has a utube-style embeded
video with a 'play' button in middle (as well links to other pages)

I'd like to save the actual video, not sure where to start,

looking at html page, I can see several 'http' strings, none seems to open
video directly; (should I expect to find a direct url...?)

playing in browser I've looked in (XP) temp directory, could see much of
interest there

any tips how to do that..?


If you give us the URL of the video page, we can probably be of more assistance.
All sorts of methods are used (some tricky) to embed a video in a web page.
Have a look at the video or embed tags in the HTML, or in Javascript code
on the page.


should I try to use some of the 'capture utube' web services ..?
thanks for any pointers, just at loss where to start..


The following plug-in captures many different types of embedded video streams,
but not all:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/


also, it also has some geoip restrictions: plays OK in Aus, but, a friend
in US got a 'not authorized in your area'

Perhaps a VPN or Aus-based proxy would solve that problem.

good luck,
rickw



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Re: [SLUG] problem upgrading kernel - version mismatch

2015-01-10 Thread David


On 08/01/15 12:52, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:

David == David  da...@kenpro.com.au writes:

David Ubuntu 12.04 SERVER (no gui) I've run into this error and don't
David want to make the problem worse:

Try
apt-get update
apt-get -f install


to resolve dependencies (it may be there's a newer linux-serverimage
to fetch and install, that won't have the problem).

If this fails, you can install just that package, so you can can
complete the upgrade, with
 dpk -i --force-depends-version 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-server-image-*dpkg

Then do an
  apt-get -f install

to fix the fallout.




thanks, but apt-get -f install failed. One of those circular 
dependency problems.


In case anyone stumbles on this thread, I ended up simply doing

#apt-get remove linux-server
#apt-get install linux-server

That was a pretty scary thing to do - remove linux-server??? - but it 
works. Linux-server is just a housekeeping meta package, even though 
it's description says  that it is the kernel.


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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX and installing a package.

2015-01-07 Thread peter
 William == William Bennett wrbennet...@gmail.com writes:

William I'd like to install curves.sty and curvesls.sty on the laptop
William for use in LaTeX.

Which distribution are you using?   For Debian or Ubuntu just install
the texlive-pictures package.

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Re: [SLUG] problem upgrading kernel - version mismatch

2015-01-07 Thread peter
 David == David  da...@kenpro.com.au writes:

David Ubuntu 12.04 SERVER (no gui) I've run into this error and don't
David want to make the problem worse:

Try
apt-get update
apt-get -f install


to resolve dependencies (it may be there's a newer linux-serverimage
to fetch and install, that won't have the problem).

If this fails, you can install just that package, so you can can
complete the upgrade, with
 dpk -i --force-depends-version 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-server-image-*dpkg

Then do an
 apt-get -f install

to fix the fallout.

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Re: [SLUG] wireless headsets

2014-12-11 Thread David

In case anyone stumbles on this thread

I finished up with a Logitech H800 dongle/bluetooth which worked out of 
the box - Ubuntu 12.04. I don't have bluetooth on my computer, but the 
bluetooth works well on my Android so that's a bonus.


Both sounds and mic are about the standard you would expect - not high 
fidelity but acceptable. I'm getting an occasional interference noise 
which I need to investigate, but that could be anything.


It's got the world's most cryptic instruction sheet, but there isn't 
much to know so that hardly matters.


On 02/12/14 06:37, Valentin FERON wrote:

I have a Corsair Bluetooth headset too with microphone and it works fine on
Ubuntu as well. It was actually recognized right away by the system.

Feron Valentin
valfe...@gmail.com
0474 225 521

2014-12-01 23:38 GMT+11:00 James Gray ja...@gray.net.au:


On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 pm, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

I foolishly bought an expensive ($150) Corsair headset, only to find

that there is fine print under the box that says it only works on windows.
The shop has agreed to change it, but insist that I make sure that what
they get in the right thing. Fair enough.


Any suggestions? The forums aren't helpful so far.

requirements:

* works on linux
* high quality sound
* wireless (either dongle or bluetooth)
* preferably but not necessarily with microphone





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Re: [SLUG] wireless headsets

2014-12-01 Thread James Gray

 On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 pm, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:
 
 I foolishly bought an expensive ($150) Corsair headset, only to find that 
 there is fine print under the box that says it only works on windows. The 
 shop has agreed to change it, but insist that I make sure that what they get 
 in the right thing. Fair enough.
 
 
 Any suggestions? The forums aren't helpful so far.
 
 requirements:
 
 * works on linux
 * high quality sound
 * wireless (either dongle or bluetooth)
 * preferably but not necessarily with microphone

I use a Sennheiser set of headphones (RS 120 II) on my home theatre.  Cost 
about $200.  Digital audio between base and headphones so nice and clear.  Only 
needs an analogue input so will work basically anything with line out or 
headphone out.  The base doubles as a stand and charging station too so, nice 
and tidy.  Range is about 100m line of site and 20m through plaster walls.  
Obviously no microphone.

I’ve heard good reports about some of the Logitech bluetooth wireless headsets 
but not sure if they work with Linux specifically - for example: 
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/8452 - however they aren’t “over” ear, 
just “on” ear.

They are “HFP 1.5” (Hands Free Portable bluetooth profile), so “should” work.  
Usual disclaimer apply.

HTH,

James



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Re: [SLUG] wireless headsets

2014-12-01 Thread Valentin FERON
I have a Corsair Bluetooth headset too with microphone and it works fine on
Ubuntu as well. It was actually recognized right away by the system.

Feron Valentin
valfe...@gmail.com
0474 225 521

2014-12-01 23:38 GMT+11:00 James Gray ja...@gray.net.au:


  On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 pm, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:
 
  I foolishly bought an expensive ($150) Corsair headset, only to find
 that there is fine print under the box that says it only works on windows.
 The shop has agreed to change it, but insist that I make sure that what
 they get in the right thing. Fair enough.
 
 
  Any suggestions? The forums aren't helpful so far.
 
  requirements:
 
  * works on linux
  * high quality sound
  * wireless (either dongle or bluetooth)
  * preferably but not necessarily with microphone



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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-17 Thread James Linder

 On 18 Nov 2014, at 9:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 The install wasn't really the problem (once I got a version of Linux
 and the BIOS updated) - just cloning it.
 
 I think it came down to the UEFI stuff not liking being cloned.
 
 I have dd’d A disk in and out succesfully but even 2 samsung 120G
 flash disks are not identical and dd did not work.
 
 The whole EFI business is tricky, try lots to get a solution or don’t
 be innovative. The EFI scheme is not the same across motherboards
 - my iMac, ASUS and NUCs all are different and need different care. caveat 
 emptor.
 The dd worked fine - I could pull one storage device out, plug the
 other one in, and it booted no worries - it was just when I moved them
 between different NUC's (identical spec, down to BIOS version) that it
 failed.
 
 I was being lazy and trying to save myself doing another install - I
 ended up costing myself double the time it would have taken to install
 again in the first place.
 
 I have to admit, this is the first time I've come across a UEFI
 enabled device - live and learn.
 
 DaZZa
 I wonder what would happen if you did some kind of a diff between the 
 installs.

I speculate that identical installs are identical and the devil of the detail 
is in the efi partition and the boot setup.
When you re-install the efi partition is NOT recreated and for me a reinstall 
usually fails. Being too clever for words I made a new partition, but that too 
failed. dd /dev/zero was my friend (in case somebody who did not get the hint 
reads this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M) whereupon all is sweet.
I have managed to move a disk from 1 NUC to another and have it work. I’ve also 
failed doing this. I speculate that during boot the machine writes to the efi 
partition, that WHAT it writes allows/disallows another machine to use THIS 
disk.
PFM (pure magic)
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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-16 Thread DaZZa
On 12 November 2014 15:54, Patrick Shirkey pshir...@boosthardware.com wrote:
 Did you enable the M$ UEFI rootkit or are you using the normal/traditional
 BIOS?

Couldn't get them to boot in legacy mode (they didn't see the storage
as a disk), so I had to use UEFI mode.

 BTW, I installed Debian 7.0 on a NUC. It worked fine except for the wifi
 driver needing some personal care. That issue might have been fixed with a
 newer version of Debian 7.4 that has a more recent kernel.

Yeah, I believe the latest version of CentOS will install as well - I
just didn't have it, and downloading the desktop version of Ubuntu was
smaller. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-16 Thread DaZZa
On 13 November 2014 12:25, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 I’ve booted ubuntu, suse and arch on the atom, i3 and i5 versions. It’s easy 
 but fiddly …

 First start with a blank disk. I dd if=/dev/zero because the efi partition is 
 a
 bitch. I *have* dualbooted Win7 and linux but it is really not easy (I do the 
 same
 install multiple times, it sometimes works)
 I’ve read, but not tried, that you must install from mem stick, cd rom will 
 not work.

The install wasn't really the problem (once I got a version of Linux
and the BIOS updated) - just cloning it.

I think it came down to the UEFI stuff not liking being cloned.

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-16 Thread James Linder

 On 17 Nov 2014, at 9:00 am, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 I’ve booted ubuntu, suse and arch on the atom, i3 and i5 versions. It’s easy 
 but fiddly …
 
 First start with a blank disk. I dd if=/dev/zero because the efi partition 
 is a
 bitch. I *have* dualbooted Win7 and linux but it is really not easy (I do 
 the same
 install multiple times, it sometimes works)
 I’ve read, but not tried, that you must install from mem stick, cd rom will 
 not work.
 
 The install wasn't really the problem (once I got a version of Linux
 and the BIOS updated) - just cloning it.
 
 I think it came down to the UEFI stuff not liking being cloned.


I have dd’d A disk in and out succesfully but even 2 samsung 120G flash disks 
are not identical and dd did not work.
The whole EFI business is tricky, try lots to get a solution or don’t be 
innovative. The EFI scheme is not the same across motherboards - my iMac, ASUS 
and NUCs all are different and need different care. caveat emptor.
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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-16 Thread DaZZa
On 17 November 2014 12:22, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 The install wasn't really the problem (once I got a version of Linux
 and the BIOS updated) - just cloning it.

 I think it came down to the UEFI stuff not liking being cloned.


 I have dd’d A disk in and out succesfully but even 2 samsung 120G
 flash disks are not identical and dd did not work.

 The whole EFI business is tricky, try lots to get a solution or don’t
 be innovative. The EFI scheme is not the same across motherboards
 - my iMac, ASUS and NUCs all are different and need different care. caveat 
 emptor.

The dd worked fine - I could pull one storage device out, plug the
other one in, and it booted no worries - it was just when I moved them
between different NUC's (identical spec, down to BIOS version) that it
failed.

I was being lazy and trying to save myself doing another install - I
ended up costing myself double the time it would have taken to install
again in the first place.

I have to admit, this is the first time I've come across a UEFI
enabled device - live and learn.

DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-16 Thread Jake Anderson

On 17/11/14 12:40, DaZZa wrote:

On 17 November 2014 12:22, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

The install wasn't really the problem (once I got a version of Linux
and the BIOS updated) - just cloning it.

I think it came down to the UEFI stuff not liking being cloned.


I have dd’d A disk in and out succesfully but even 2 samsung 120G
flash disks are not identical and dd did not work.

The whole EFI business is tricky, try lots to get a solution or don’t
be innovative. The EFI scheme is not the same across motherboards
- my iMac, ASUS and NUCs all are different and need different care. caveat 
emptor.

The dd worked fine - I could pull one storage device out, plug the
other one in, and it booted no worries - it was just when I moved them
between different NUC's (identical spec, down to BIOS version) that it
failed.

I was being lazy and trying to save myself doing another install - I
ended up costing myself double the time it would have taken to install
again in the first place.

I have to admit, this is the first time I've come across a UEFI
enabled device - live and learn.

DaZZa
I wonder what would happen if you did some kind of a diff between the 
installs.


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Re: [SLUG] Weird behaviour of Intel Nuc's

2014-11-13 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi Dazza,

I've had some weird problems with rolling out many boxes in the past.

I would have first set all the bios to factory default so that they are 
all the same.

(After checking firmware versions are the same etc...)

I've had in the past two really weird things happen.

First was a keyboard.
On one workstation I kept getting Hard disk errors. Wouldn't boot up. 
Yes that's HDD errors. Couldn't figure it out. Moved the computer to 
another area minus the screen, keyboard, mouse and it worked perfectly. 
Moved back again and problems again. Elimination of plug in bits showed 
that one keyboard was causing the error. However this keyboard worked 
perfectly fine on all other computers in the area. So I swapped this 
keyboard with another from another floor in the building (just in case 
by some bizarre coincidence they meet up again) and the problem went away.


Same thing with a monitor.
Blow me down this monitor and this computer just don't want to work 
together. Swap monitor with somewhere else and all ok. Same 
manufacturer, same model, same batch of computers and monitors.


So, if you've tried everything else, try swapping the things that plug 
into the computer.


Ben





On 12/11/2014 3:13 PM, DaZZa wrote:

Long time no post.

So I got my hands on two Intel Nuc's for work (nice toys - small and
quiet), and that other OS everyone seems to love didn't want to
install on the USB disk which was stuck in them, the decision was
made to go to Linux.

A bit of research showed me that Ubuntu was about the only install
which would painlessly go onto these things (after a BIOS upgrade), so
despite my habitual distaste for Ubuntu, I downloaded a copy and
installed it on the first one - all cool, boots up, able to customise
it to do what I want, cool bananas.

This is where is gets weird. I then proceeded to copy the USB key
being used a disk using DD (to save having to customise the second one
all over again). All apparently worked, both keys booted the box no
worries - so I took one of them and stuck it into the second Nuc.

And it flat out refused to boot. Nada. Get nicked.

I thought I must have stuffed up the image - but both disks booted the
first device fine.

After scratching my head for a few hours and trying every BIOS option
I could find, I decided to try a fresh install from the CD onto the
new device - and stuff me if it didn't work.

Now I'm at the point where one disk will boot on one device but not
on the other.

Has anyone come across this before? Is it something specific to
Ubuntu, or is it the stupid SecureBoot crap (which was turned off,
by the way) they put into the BIOS for these things doing *something*
to the disk to make the second device not recognise it?

Not really an issue, because I've fixed them so they both boot now -
but I'm intensely curious as to *why* this happened.

DaZZa



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