[RCSE] Visalia Results - I'm not on the list
Can someone please send (privately) an address for the Visalia results? Would appreciate all inclusive list if its posted, not just top ten. Thanks for any help. I'm not on the RCSE list currently, so I don't see your posts.
[RCSE] Easy landing slope for flight tests around LA
Hello all, I have been building/buying for a Parker trip but need place to trim about 5 planes that I have never flown before. It's the only decent thing to do for very nice airplanes before putting them in the line of fire, so big easy landing zone a real help. Live in Philadelphia, not many slopes to trim on around here. Slope that is closer to LAX better since I have to pop out the next morning for a quick flight and then back for the F3F race this Sunday at Vincent where I am going to win the race by making everyone laugh so hard at my flying that they can't get on the course. Any info appreciated, and hopt to see some folks with me and Bruce at Parker Mon/Tues. thanks breck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] New article
Hi Randy, Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately, I don't think it would make for a very good DS'er given the design parameters. Although one could build an A/C that is strong enough to withstand flightloads, I suspect that due to the flight path (radius), amount of A/C mass required to increase and retain forward momentum, and the actual lifting characteristics (stall tendancy) under the above conditions (increased pitching drag/greater AoA, centrifugal force/Rn) will limit maximum velocities. This is not to say one will not achieve some relatively high velocity, as already witnessed. In all honesty (as realistically as possible?), how fast is the fastest DS A/C going? Anyone? Anyways, the Super Nova is flying, and is unervingly quiet while airborne. Although at this point it is not that much lighter (unballasted) wing loading than it's predecessor, it "acts" lighter. It's weight is incorrectly listed as 80oz (should be 90oz), and with 4.5Lbs of ballast able to be inserted into the torque tube, should make for some interesting flights while playing outside of the FAI rules. Bobbi and Randy wrote: This is one very cool article. If you haven't checked it out yet, you should. This might be the ultimate DS plane too. I remember the original plane from the World Speed Trials at Kiona Butte in 1999. It was a very fast plane. Hopefully I'll get to see the new one fly too. It would be nice if there could be another World Speed Trials. In spite of some teething problems, it was a very fun and interesting event. It's to bad nobody did one in 2000. Randy Bullard I have just posted an article written by Simon Van Leeuwen on our web page www.cadvision.com/crcss follow the link to the Super Nova Article. This plane is something to see. Soon everyone will want one, that is if you like speed. We'll have to see how it performs this year. -- Greg Nuspel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta RADIUS SYSTEMS Cogito-Ergo-Zoom IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SVSS Invitational Slope Fun-Fly
I just found out about this even this weekend at Visalia, SVSS puts on great events . Ihope the PSS half-pipe So Cal Pt. Fer. et. all. type show up and show us Nor Cal type guys what the monster punch is all about. Wonder if Banos can be DS'd in a prime time exhibition ? Wonder if they will have aero- tow ? See you there and we'll all find out ! When;October 28th and 29th 2000Where; Los Banos ReservoirEvent; 2-day slope fun-flyAwards; Best electric , PSS , Scale , All nominated through"pilots choice".Entry Fee; $5.00 for pilot's choice awardsRequired; Current AMA membership cardContact; Tony Elliot (530) 878-8112RSVP To [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Visalia hlg
Just wondering who won the hlg contest. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] ballast for DS
I just found a new DS site today. the wind was very strong so I started DS'ing with my Sonic EPP wing. However I couldn't pick up too much speed, I must be going under 50 mph. I decided to give my fully ballasted Nemesis 60" racer a try, although I wasn't expecting much. Wow, what a difference!!! it went over 200kph and kept going faster!! I am wondering if the Sonic would do better if I had use ballast. and where should I put ballast on an EPP wing? How much can it carry? any suggestion? Raymond Wong Hong Kong RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Visalia hlg
1) Arthur Markowiecz (Sorry Arthur, hard to read your writing) 2) George Joy I have a complete list, and I have data on all the planes, I have as many photos of the planes as I could get, and hope to et stuff posted. A special thanks thanks to Guy and Linda Russo for all their efforts!!! Linda did not fly but sure was gGREAT support to both me and Guy for the event. And a special thanks to all the HLG flyers. So many great and very friendly flyers! And the planes, WOW what workmanship! I bag wings and feel like a newbie. I had extended talks with Brian (of the feather), Lex, Eric, Paul, George, Joe, Bruce, Tom, Dick, and so many others, that I feel right at home. There were many side arm launches, a wide variety of design approaches. If I could only do the bagging as well. More LAter, Chris -Original Message- From: Nowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:17 AM Subject: [RCSE] Visalia hlg Just wondering who won the hlg contest. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DS speeds
This is not to say one will not achieve some relatively high velocity, as already witnessed. In all honesty (as realistically as possible?), how fast is the fastest DS A/C going? Anyone? While I was doing the filming with his camera and with Dieter Mahlein of Shredair on the radar gun, Paul Naton hit 173 mph at a place just up from Kiona Butte this past summer. There were several other passes right around 170 mph. The conditions were only medium and Paul could have gone faster had he pushed harder according to the DS maniacs in attendance. I'm sure that much higher speeds are attainable if the bio-computer can handle them. We were at the bottom of the DS circle where the sounds were absolutely incredible. The description of "shredding air" is the best I can think of. Did I mention that it was terrifying to have a plane going 173 mph pointed at you? Randy Bullard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Lithium Camera Battery Concepts, was 8hour slope task battery
Responding to my use of non-rechargeable lithium cells as onboard power, Jim wrote: 1. I think the reason many of us use rechargeable cells is for cost consideration. Maybe it is cheaper to just reuse the same ones. But buying chargers, etc. costs money too, in fact, it is more expensive to start with buying everything. I wonder what would be a price comparison between the two would be? A cost comparison would be interesting, but open to some accounting interpretation, of course. The lithium cam-batt side of the equation is not too complex. I figure I pay (very cheerfully) about $0.23 an hour for onboard power, given that some of my models get only 12 hrs on the CR-2 packs (four servo hlg, for instance) and some get close to 40 hrs. on the DL123 packs (two servo red herring, for instance). Hard to compare apples to apples, though. How do you account for the cost of a fancy charger (some guys have more than one!), a field battery, multiple packs per plane if you want to fly while charging, the fact that rechargeables do eventually wear out or get unreliable (not to mention field batteries), and the value of time charging vs. time flying? It's a style thing, and a choice thing, not probably accountable in any real practical way. 2. I don't see it as the perfect solution for all applications. Me either, just all MY applications :) Just those where the battery is accessible. When I build as foamy my battery is in there until I cut it out. I remember you making this comment before, and if that is your rule about foamies, then that's perfectly allright. But I guess I'll admit to being a little mystified about why you seem so specifically energized about not replacing foamie batteries. It's easy enough in most foamies to make the battery removeable even if it's deep and surrounded by foam, and for most folks, the kind of duration these batteries give means they'd be replacing them once a month or even much less often, no great hardship in my opinion. Question, how do you know when you are getting to the end of your battery life? I just wrote an answer (posted RCSE) to that same query a few minutes ago which should make my very simple but effective technique clear enough. Let me know if it brings up more questions, or if you want a copy re-posted to you. I mean for those of us who stress about such a thing, the nice thing about rechargeable is that you can recharge until your paranoid heart's content. Yeah, it is partly a style and personality thing. For me, the 'nice thing' is specifically having many many flight hours where I don't have to stress about my batteries AT ALL (other than tracking flight time, but for me, that's an easy, reliable habit), or spend ANY time charging at the field, EVER. Even if you have two packs per plane, you will still fly more when you don't have to bring a charger or use it at all. If your flying time is precious to you, then not having to charge is an awfully big bonus. All I am saying, is that for a lot of us, we don't like the idea of using batteries until they die. No need to use them till they die. If you read my basic test technique, you'll see that the whole point is to never use them that way. In fact, once you have a benchmark for a given plane, you can be exactly as conservative as YOU wish. It's only if you're determined to get every last second out of a pack that you have to spend any time at all in worry mode. Let me just reiterate that I totally get the concept that many many folks are comfortable with rechargeables, very invested in the accompanying technology, and not needing or wanting a new idea or system, and that is fine. I am (despite previous semi-fanatical meant-to-be-humorous comments to the contrary) not actually out to change everyone's ways. But I think my style of onboard power has an awful lot of plusses, and occasionally folks assume problems with it that aren't really there. It offers a more equipment free, task free environment in which to do the hobby and for me, that really changed the whole picture and made it more viable to keep on flying rc gliders at all. I started learning faster and having more fun. I started taking my glider to places I never would have simply because it was so easy to throw just a plane and a tx in the car, duffel bag, backpack, whatever. I started taking 10 hour hikes with my HLG and flying in 6 different locations on a mountain. The hobby really changed for me. So I mean to share all that, in a spirit of real joy, with anyone who might end up enjoying the hobby in a new way as a result. Thanks for your thoughtful questions, Jim. Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 8hour slope task battery
I chose rechargeable not by cost reason but by environment reason. YK RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Andy Herider's Surgery
Guys, Stopped in to see Andy Herider today. So far, so good. He was able to sit up and talk to me. The nurse said he was going to move to a chair at noon today for his first time out of bed since the surgery. He told me he had surgery 3 times on Friday and Saturday to accomplish the lung transplant. He is tired (to be expected), but his spirits are up as of my visit. Keep praying, guys. He has a long way to go. Dana Flemming RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Antenna lenght
If your equipment operates at 72MHz, the most popular length is 39" to 41", wire diameter is not critical from 0.01" or more. Hope that helps. YK Chan Seattle - Original Message - From: Fernando Magnetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:39 AM Subject: [RCSE] Antenna lenght Hi!! Can somebody tellme de lenght and kind of wire for an antenna for a JR PCM10 receiver (NER910XZ) I get a JR 347 and the receiver have the antenna reeeaaallyyy short... Thanks for all. Fernando Magnetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DS DS DS .....Exactly what is it????????
I've been reading tons of posts about Dynamic Soaring... Latest, greatest, super high speed, etc. But what the heck is it? Thanks, Matt
RE: [RCSE] 8hour slope task battery
Also a very real consideration. Thanks YK. I chose rechargeable not by cost reason but by environment reason. YK RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Lithium Camera Batteries and 8 hr Slope Task
Sounds like a good power source of that particular occasional type of flying , but on a regular basis ? I could see the costsare comparable ,butwhat about the environmental concerns ?Has anyone done a comparison on which is worse 1) old discarded battery drain from landfill intowater supply or 2) auto emissions to "fill up" rechargeable ?
RE: [RCSE] DS DS DS .....Exactly what is it????????
Here is a very good link that explains it. But be careful. It is 100% captivating. Once you see a plane DS, like at Parker, than simply flying out in front in the lift is sort of a let down. Everything seems so slow then. If you are like me, you are trying to figure out how you can live close to a good DSing site :) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dlstone/dsoar.htm http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dlstone/dsoar.htm Also, when you look at the picture, the loop is not at a 90 degree angle as it appears in the drawing, but is tilted on its site. There is a forward and back element that isn't displayed. Jim -Original Message- From: Matt Lydon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] DS DS DS .Exactly what is it I've been reading tons of posts about Dynamic Soaring... Latest, greatest, super high speed, etc. But what the heck is it? Thanks, Matt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 8hour slope task battery
What is the milliamp rating of these cells? given that the new lithiums are extremely light AND high capacity, do these actually have more capacity? Matt - Original Message - From: "Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "YK Chan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "RCSE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] 8hour slope task battery Also a very real consideration. Thanks YK. I chose rechargeable not by cost reason but by environment reason. YK RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: A simple way to eliminate HTML formatted garbage in the forum
A two line footer is OK. A six line footer would be nuts, at least as bad as the percieved problem. The digest that contained this suggestion had 26 messages. If it had the suggested footer, that's 156 lines of noise. On my admittedly archaic Unix-based mail reader, that's seven pages! I am indeed sick of seeing HTML, but an obese footer would be at least as annoying. Why don't you include a message in the forum's footer suggesting that folks set their email programs to output text only?... Something like.. RCSE protocol is "plain text". Please make sure to set your Email program or browser's options or parameters to output only plain text. For example, this may be done by selecting "Plain Text" item under the "Format" menu item in Outlook Express. Others are similar. ... could easily be appended to the current message in the footer. How bout it? D.O. Daniel O. Miller BRAIN: Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering? PINKY: I think so, Brain, but I prefer Space Jelly. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Chicago Show
The Chicago Show is October 21, 22 at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center, N. River Road, Rosemont, IL. The hours are 10 AM - 5 PM. For more information, log on to: http://www.ihobbyexpo.com Regards, Bob Johnson Fond du Lac, WI - Original Message - From: "Mark Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: [RCSE] Chicago Show Does anyone know when and where the Chicago show is this year? Thanks, Mark __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] GWS Rx size
Since some of you seemed interested, I found a link to the GWS website tonight on the Horizon webpage. To give an idea of size, here are the relative sizes of RXs out there. The range of the GWS is listed as 300 meter, which is almost twice what is listed for the Feather. The also seem to be working on a 4.8gm gyro. Feather: size: 30x20x10mm weight: 7.8gms Hitec 555: size: 48x28x18mm weight: 16gms (case removed) GWS Nano: size 15 x 25mm (about 4mm thick I think) weight: 5.5 grams (case is shrink wrap) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] LAX Flight spots
Good landing slopes near LAX? I haven't a clue! California Sloping is very tough on planes. Lot's of rocks and amazingly stiff and sturdy bushes. The very best spot is Torrey Pines in San Diego. Big grass field with gentle lift. Never mind the 500 foot cliff over water that you launch from :-) San Diego is 2 hours south of LAX. Yorba Linda's Glider Point has an "okay" slope with a good landing zone. The hill can be cyclic, and it's a half mile walk up a steep trail, so five nice ships might tax you physically. There's a place in LA called Snake Hill. Not sure where it is or what kind of landing it has. The International Slope Directory claims the landing zone is "A Piece of Cake" Temple Hill is a great place to fly, in Pomona, south and east of LAX by about 40 miles. Temple is my "home slope" Great lift, loonnnggg hike (half mile). Wide open landing area, but lots of big hidden wing biting rocks. Most people hand-catch their crunchy planes there, or else land them at their feet. Temple is primarily known for the largest combat event on the planet (SmAC!). My advice would be to go to a thermal field and high start the planes and get trimmed out that way. CalState Dominguez Hills isn't far from LAX and is a really big field, friendly to gliders. I don't fly thermal though, so I can't be much help. On Saturday, I will be flying with Doug Reel. This will be up near Malibu, called Pacific Palisades. There is a dedicated landing zone, but's very small and tight. Flaps are real blessing there. I will be at Torrey on Friday around noon if you want some company. Let me know. I'll see you for sure on Sunday at the F3F race. Links: Torrey Pines: http://www.torreypinesgulls.org/ Temple Hill: http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html Slope directory: http://www.extreme-products.com/features/sitedirectory.html Pacific Palisades: http://mpa.freeservers.com/Main.htm (Click on "Images from Our Home Slope") Cheers, Nathan Woods Webmaster: www.boomerangwings.com Temple Hill Slope Squadron Orange, California http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: Ballast for DS Flying Wings
Check out one make shift method employed at Parker Mountain! http://members.tripod.com/douglasturner/id15.htm Nathan Woods Webmaster: www.boomerangwings.com Temple Hill Slope Squadron Orange, California http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: What is DS?
Doug Turner has a good write up of DS'ing http://members.tripod.com/douglasturner/id27.htm Also there are online videos of it somewhere. John McCurdy's website seems to be down now. Nathan Woods Webmaster: www.boomerangwings.com Temple Hill Slope Squadron Orange, California http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
