[RCSE] How to order Organic?

2001-11-14 Thread Clownie

 Anyone know Vladimir's phone number, or a US distributor who actually has 
these in stock?
Thanks, 
Brian
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Re: [RCSE] ESC for S400 (off subject)

2001-11-14 Thread Richard Knott

You should never operate an electric motor in a model without an arming
switch. It saves your fingers by allowing you to be absolutely sure you are
ready to start the motor.

There are two ways in which an electric motor can be more dangerous than an
infernal combustion engine:
1: When an IC engine is running there is a horrible noise letting you know
it is running. (This still doesn't stop some people from getting their
fingers chopped)
2: It takes a certain amount of deliberate action to get an IC engine
running, ie connecting a glow driver, flicking the prop etc. Once you have
activated the arming switch on your electric all you have to do is push the
throttle stick forward and your stationary prop is suddenly spinning. On my
one ESC, just activating the arming switch while the throttle stick is
forward starts the motor. Very dangerous! If your ESC did not have an arming
switch then simply turning on your receiver would start the motor if the
throttle stick was forward.

So the correct sequence of starting an electric model is:1, switch on the
TX, 2, switch on the RX, 3, wiggle your sticks and OBSERVE, 4, hit the
arming switch, 5, advance the throttle.

Regards
Richard Knott

- Original Message -
From: Tim Vandenheuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My
 question is, is the arming switch available on many of the ESC's more
 truble than they are worth? It seems more like a hassle than anything. A
 simple on/off switch seems quite adequite. I just hate to see more than
the
 bare essentials on the outside of the airframe (switches, jacks, etc.).
Any
 input would be greatly appreciated, Pardon my off-topic post, but there
are
 only a few resources in the area.




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Re: [RCSE] How to order Organic?

2001-11-14 Thread Tom Broeski


I have one in stock. Very beautiful but expensive 2M.
Tom


Anyone know Vladimir's phone
number, or a US distributor who actually has
these in stock?
Thanks,Brian

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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #384

2001-11-14 Thread Tim Rowledge

 And as for the price of the DataSafe, the Stylus memory card and the MPX 
 computer interface cost extra too.
 
The nice thing about the MPX (3030 or 4000) is the 100 memories mean you
don't really have any need for any pc interface; unless of course you're
a jammy bastard with more than 100 models ready to go... in which case
an extra $50 is unlikely to bother you. Oh and for a modest sum (no idea
how much, sorry) you can get an extra 100 memories anyway.

I like the complete flexibility it provides and I'm enough of a gadget
geek that the price was worth it. 12 channels becomes surprisingly
useful with a largish scale glider. 4 channels choosable as
ail/ail/el/motor is surprisingly useful for an electric hotliner.
Configurable physical switches are useful (remove all the ones you don't
use to avoid confusion) and you can get all sorts of goodies like
switches on top of the sticks.

I know (but can't understand) that some people don't like the tray
style, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

tim

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How many Motie Mediators does it take to chage a lightbulb? Are you insane? Only 
Crazy Eddie would want to change *anything*!

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[RCSE] Programming the JR 8103 X-mitter

2001-11-14 Thread Steve Gibson

I am getting back into soaring and already own an 8103.  I read the JR
manual numerous times but the instructions on programming the 8103 were
really terrible.  I've been told somebody published a book about programming
the 8103.  Where can I buy one?  I know there is a book on programming a
Futaba.  I'm do not want the Futaba programming book.
Steve Gibson

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Re: [RCSE] Joe Bridi Tercel - Will it Fly

2001-11-14 Thread Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech

Bob Massmann writes:

I have the Flipper which is very similar.

My first HLG was also a Bridi Flipper, very similar to the Tercel. If I 
remember correctly there were some differences in the shape of the tail, 
but otherwise they were almost alike.

Low speed handling was great, but range and L/D was a bit lacking. The 
other problem was the bulkhead at the leading edge of the wing, the one 
that the wing's leading edge dowel plugged into. That whole area of the 
fuselage structure was very poorly designed, and essentially had all the 
wing loads transferred across the grain of the balsa instead of parallel to 
the fibers. Anything less than a perfect landing would break some part of 
that structure. I'd recommend at least adding some fiberglass tape and 
epoxy around that area.

The other culprit from a performance standpoint was the short wingspan. 
Stretching it out to a full 59 would significantly help performance. The 
Zephyr was a very similar model from that same era, and also had a short 
wingspan. Most of the Zephyr flyers I knew had added some additional rib 
bays to the wing to stretch it out to the full 59.

Besides the shortage of range and penetration, the other quirk involved the 
Eppler 205 airfoil. It has a mush mode of separated flow and high drag 
that develops well above the final stall break. If you don't pay close 
enough attention and let it get too slow, it will sneak into a mush that 
will require a lot of altitude to fully recover from. A skillful pilot can 
use this almost like spoilers for glide path control on landing, but most 
of the time it's a nuisance and a trap for the unwary.

Joe Hahn scratch built a 2-meter scaled-up version of the Flipper that flew 
quite well.

My second HLG was a Vertigo. Foam wings with balsa skins, heavier, more 
legs, but couldn't thermal nearly as well in the small, weak lift we get 
around here.

About that time I was also reading the part in The Old Buzzard's Soaring 
Book about how you could make an airplane heavy and fast and search 
better, or keep it very light and thermal well but not search as far. It 
was presented in the book from an either/or point of view. It was quite 
clear to me that the Flipper and the Vertigo represented classic examples 
of the two schools of thought, and that in the widely spaced, small 
diameter, very weak lift typical of this area, neither approach was getting 
the job done. Joe, who worked downstairs from me in another department of 
the same company, was coming to similar conclusions with his own HLG 
experiments. We questioned why it had to be either/or; couldn't we come up 
with a model that could do both? We also noticed that the state of the art 
in HLG's at that time (1992) seemed to be based on scaling down larger 
models, airfoils, planforms, structures and all, to HLG size, rather than 
looking at the unique demands of HLG's on their own merits. We started 
comparing notes and collaborating on designs, and six fuselages, seven 
tails, eight wings and about 150 hours of computer work later we had the 
first Monarch. Shortly after that, Bob Massmann, one of our friends in the 
DARTS club, hung up his Flipper for one of our first kits.

I still have my Flipper, and about an afternoon's work could make it 
airworthy again. It was a sweet handling airplane for its time, but I don't 
really have any desire to go back.



Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
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[RCSE] How do you join?

2001-11-14 Thread Michael Conte

Thank you for the overwhelming response on this subject.  It turns out the
friend I was helping is now on the RCSE.

Mike Conte

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[RCSE] Joe Bridi TERCEL

2001-11-14 Thread Paul Rickie Clark

Will it fly!?  It is one of the birds I built for my son and after a few 
years air time in Japan,  I re-modeled it :-) for him and he has it in the 
states!!  It was done in see-through red and black trim--he appeared with 
it in Model Builder.  Yes, as already noted, it IS a kick on the slope, but 
at a TPGs' Poway field visit we skied it out so many times we wondered how 
the guys who fly there got so good--it was too easy :-) !!  Wish I could 
have done so well at my IHLGF times!!

Some time back  Gyros in L.A. bought out someone's remaining stock (which 
we learned about here on RCSE) and they were gracious enough to send one 
out to me!!  I look forward to building it with the gear load available now 
that weighs less than the battery we flew with earlier!!  I will build it 
with a V shaped fuselage which the design lends itself to (discovered 
from its much flying time);I would see no reason to cut wings for a build 
or try to change airfoils.  ALL of the negative Skeeter thread about kit 
bashing applies here--go get something else to build or build scratch :-) 
!!

My son loved to launch it with a snap roll at the top--she is a cute little 
ship.  We flew her light slope a lot and  into the dark--believe me, being 
red and black, at dusk she could really disorient the pilot :-) !!  Nothing 
but special memories from this little bridi!!

Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1)
http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/
SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO

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[RCSE] George Voss

2001-11-14 Thread Dookiecydoor

Hi there,
 I was looking for George Voss. I bought a hands off 30 inch feather 
cut bow from him. I lost the instructions. If someone knows how to get a hold 
of him, please let me know about it. Or if George himself see's this. My 
email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Thanks,
   Jason Micallef
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Re: [RCSE] SWClassic

2001-11-14 Thread Dave Wenzlick

The 14th Annual Southwest Classic will be held on Feb 2-3, 2002 at Schnepf
Farms in Queen Creek AZ which is about 45 minutes SE of Phoenix. All the
details can be found at the web site including an entry form. We have
received almost 50 entries so far and several channels are full already so
be sure to send some alternate choices if you have them. I will post an
updated pilots list this weekend along with reserved RV spaces, vendor info,
area maps and lodgings etc.
  The regular CASL club field is in Gilbert AZ at Rodeo Park. It is glider
and electric flight only site. The CASL club link is below.

CASL site including contest info, maps and the 14th SWC  http://www.casl.net

direct link to the SWC http://www.rcaz.com/

Thanks,
Dave Wenzlick
Mesa AZ

 Looks like there is a good chance I will be leaving Reno and heading south
to Phoenix area for the winter
 so was wondering about the SWC this year, how does one register? Also,
where is the CASL field?  Flew there a few years back but cant remember
where it is?  Thanks, Walter


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Re: [RCSE] ESC for S400 (off subject)

2001-11-14 Thread tony estep


--- Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Switches in general are also passe these days...

This seems particularly applicable on higher power systems. If the
resistance of your switch plus leads is only .002 ohm and your motor is
drawing 50 amps, the voltage drop across the switch is .1V; on a
10-cell pack this reduces power to the motor by 10 watts.


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Re: [RCSE] videos

2001-11-14 Thread Mike Bailey

I had to move it to http://midwestslope.tripod.com/

- Original Message - 
From: Keith Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] videos


 
 I don't see a link on your website -- can you send me the URL?
 
 TIA, Keith
 
 
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 From: Mike Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:47:36 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RCSE] videos
 
 I have added 2 DS videos to my site. The site is Wilson dam, Kansas.
 http://home.kscable.com/mikesmodels/
 Folow the videos link at the bottom of the page.
 Mike

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RE: [RCSE] 8103 vs. 10X

2001-11-14 Thread Chris Kaiser

There's also the small detail that neither the JR 8103 or Futaba 8U
let you decouple the elevator trim between launch/thermal/speed
modes. May not be a big deal for TD stuff off braided line, but
for F3B launches off mono line those 2 clicks of up-trim you put
in to just float around in light lift can change the next launch from
awesome to snap-roll. Also a couple of clicks of down-trim to
help penetrate into the wind can mean the difference between tracking
straight down the course or diving for the ground during a speed run.

The mainstream radios such as the 8103 and 8U actually do more than
most people will ever need. It's really a lot of little things that
make the top-end radios better and many people wouldn't consider
the extra price worth it. The way I look at it, my 9Z cost less than
one F3B airframe and will control/outlast many models. I consider it
an investment.

Ciao - Chris

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 11:13 a.m.
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] 8103 vs. 10X
 
 
 At 02:56 PM 11/14/2001, James Osborn wrote:
 I am curious what it is you need to do that you found the 8103 
 was not able to
 accomplish?  Please respond to the exchange; inquiring minds 
 want to know.
 
 1)  The camber and landing butterfly/crow are shared by the 
 throttle stick 
 and moded with a switch.  I want camber on the slide bar where it should 
 be, and landing on the throttle stick where it should be, both active 
 simultaneously.  I know I could have a preset camber switch with 
 the 8103, 
 I don't want that, I want camber that I can vary.
 
 2)  I want to be able to handle a six wing setup without using a 
 Y harness.
 
 3)  I wanted the two extra channels for my scale ships so I 
 didn't have to 
 tie channels together for the tow release and retracts.
 
 
 Jim
 Downers Grove, IL
 Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III
 ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net
 
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