Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
OK< This is going back to the same thing as the nose radius on a plane way back when. OK, picture this in your mind: You are standing there and there is a 3-5 lb flying projectile (aka missile) aiming at you. It is approaching fast(30+mph) and all you worry is that little thing sticking out of the bottom of this flying projectile? This projectile also has a pointy little nose that shaped like a bullet, and a horizontal protrusion that is about 10 feet wide with a sharp leading edge. Which bother you more?? And to make this worst, sometimes this missile is "control" by an unrxperience person!!! If the rule is about safety, I think we should ban flying!! Use the safety banner to form a new ruler is bad. Brian -- B. Chan Lost in the world of bureaucratic lead tape, and sinking RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
I fall in line with Don Richmond on this issue. Don hits the nail on the head with: "I believe you are much more likely to be injured by a wing or fuse than impaled by a skag." There really isn't much of a safety issue here. For some however the issue is generally more astetic and I'm guessing this was Bob's attempt at compromise. But again, the CD for a contest can disallow, or allow skegs (or is it skags? I really like skags) by posting in contest announcement. A CD also has the authority to, and should not allow unsafe gear or practices, whatever that might be. again, to quote Don, who also is a fine gentleman. I've also found him to be very wise as he says: "A rule for the sake of a rule is no rule." skag-on! Take Care, Mike Stump
Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
In a message dated 1/21/03 Rich Burnowski wrote: I think 99% of soaring pilots can, and have used good judgment about these matters. And, Lets trust our contest directors to act upon unsafe situations that may occur. Rich, I agree with your observations and conclusion except that I believe no words are necessary on this subject. I have been an active contest participant and CD for the past 10+ years and have never witnessed a problem caused by a skeg. In contrast, I have seen many shins whacked by an errant RES ship sliding through the landing area without a skeg.. I believe you are much more likely to be injured by a wing or fuse than impaled by a skag. I recommend we vote no on any words detailing skegs and get on with more important issues like rubber propellers. A rule for the sake of a rule is no rule. Don Richmond
Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
In a message dated 1/20/03 2:54:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > Therefore I would decline to agree with the wordy proposal. > > Keep it simple and they will come!!! Rich, Please suggest a less wordy proposal that does the job of placing some form of control on the shape, size, configuration of skegs and/or sharks teeth. Regards, Bob Johnson >> Hi Bob, I choose not to fight this battle of skegs because there seems to be bigger fish to fry. Ill vote, when called upon, according to my constituency. I think 99% of soaring pilots can, and have used good judgment about these matters. And, Lets trust our contest directors to act upon unsafe situations that may occur. And my personal account is that skegs hinder the looks and performance of a great aerodynamic plane anyhow. I suggest, keep the words simple: " A skeg(s) will be allowed " RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New York City
I will be in New York City for a week in the middle of March... Is there anything to do in New York City that would interest... Don't miss the Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum The aircraft carrier USS Intrepid is docked in NY Harbor. http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/ Unless you've already seen and touched an SR-71 Blackbird, and about 30 other WWII, Vietnam, Korea era aircraft. You can also walk through the Growler, a WWII diesel submarine. Roy G. Biv Slope Trash Magazine _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Unbuilt Kits Survey
Do I have to tell? 1. Multiplex Lucky 2. Multiplex Mini Milan 3. KV ASW-24B 4. RodelModell Ka6 (3m smaller one) 5. RodelModell SG38 6. Valenta Mini Salto 7. Radio Sailplanes Wildflecken 8. Graupner Dandy Of these three were gifts from my wife, (2 this Christmas!) and I picked up the last one for about US$7. The Wildflecken was given to me by someone who bought it many years ago looking to go into thermal flying, but ended up stuck in smelly engines mode. I've about four electric kits too, which I'll build when I get fed up doing sailplanes. (A bit of variety on the building board is always nice.) There's no point in my pretending I'll stop buying 'till i've all built. So now i only allow myself to buy a kit if I've built two since my last purchase. I was doing well until my wife intervened! Not that I'm going to complain too hard of course... :) -- Wight --- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <--- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=84577 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Good time to send Volz in for service!
[RCSE] What's a skeg?
A skeg? I don't remember seeing them on any slope plane. Aren't they the thing you stick on to turn a beautiful plane into something with an ugly wart? Randy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Encore DLG impressions
Hey, I just purchased a used six servo Maple Leaf Encore DLG for a very reasonable price. I must say I love this plane, as well as the fact that I do not have to wait three months for a new factory sealed one! I lucked out just by posting a wanted message on RCSE and SAL Groups. Assembly was, frankly speaking, a pain. Even though the airframe was assembled (wing joined, tail feathers secured, and pod & boom joined) radio installation proved to be difficult. First, I had to figure out how four wing servos (twelve leads -- pos,neg,signal) boiled down to eight in the saddle plug. It turned out the neg and positive leads were shared on each wing panel ... I learned a lot about electronics from this installation, and how solder fumes affect ones sense of smell and brain! My main gripe about the Encore is the lack of a slide on nosecone, canopy, or hatch. Dealing with elevator/rudder servo pushrod connections requires removing the wing, unscewing the 'tongue' and pulling it out. Note that this changes the distance from the fuse servos to tail feathers, making a loose string pull-pull connection much easier. If you choose a steel wire or carbon rod pushrod as I have, all adjustments need to be made from the tail feather end -- what a pain! This is definitely worth it as all pull-pull string connections I tried invariably resulted in slop. The C.G. was too nose heavy once I installed everything, so I ended up glueing the battery behind the servos, with the Rx in the front. This makes the Encore balance perfectly!!! I basically wired two 3V Radio Shack lithium batteries in series (easier than it sounds) since rechargeable NiCad or NiMH batteries that are this light can't fly very long. Even my 270 mah NIMH was copping out after half and hour! I don't want this bird to fail in mid air from lack of battery power! Finally, the inboard wing shows heavy abuse as it has several compression lines running parallel to the fuse -- the original owner must have thrown it with a lot of force, or perhaps incorrectly. Another major concern is the wing trailing edge -- the kevlar cloth extends past the trailing edge lamination and is fuzzy, bumpy. I must assume it was shipped from Mapleleaf with this flaw as laminating resin doesn't just erode. This is no good -- the trailing edge smoothness is even more critical than the L.E. smoothness as a teardrop shape (shape of least resistance) will show you. The uneven nature of the T.E. has been fixed with superglue and sanding, but is troublesome to a potential new buyer. Finally, I must add that the instruction manual is well written and rather comical. If I was going to do it all over agin, I would buy a used or new Raptor out of Califonia. This plane looks like it has quite a bit of potential and sells for $325 (hopefully there is a minimal wait for this ship). Good luck and happy sailing! p.s. Did I mention I got mine to weight 10.7 oz RTF... Finally, flying this plane is undescribable. In dead air or minimal slope lift, it is a dream! Being a mini fullhouse sailplane, I have complete control in tight landing areas and can camber the flaps to slow down in patches of lift or reflex them to speed up for maneuvers. I find that I fly this plane more than any other in the hanger and will throw it just about anywhere with out trees. In essence, this plane is building my confidence so that I may fly my open class molded 140" Eraser (Escape) with confidence. San Diego Soarer _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Fw: Why airplanes are easier to live with than women
RCSE reader 1: Why don't girls get interested in model planes? RCSE reader 2: I dunno. Maybe we need to make more pink planes. -J On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Mike Bailey wrote: >I will apologise up front to any women reading this but it is funny. >Mike > > Airplanes usually kill you quickly; a woman takes her time. > > Airplanes can be turned on by a flick of a switch. > > Airplanes don't get mad if you do a "touch and go." > > Airplanes don't object to a pre-flight inspection. > > Airplanes come with a manual to explain their operation. > > Airplanes have strict weight and balance limitations. > > Airplanes can be flown at any time of the month. > > Airplanes don't come with in-laws. > > Airplanes don't care about how many other airplanes you've flown before. > > Airplanes and pilots both arrive at the same time. > > Airplanes don't mind if you look at other airplanes. > > Airplanes don't mind if you buy airplane magazines. > > Airplanes expect to be tied down. > > Airplanes don't comment on your piloting skills. > > Airplanes don't whine unless something is really wrong. > > However, when airplanes go quiet, just like women, it's usually not good >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
