[RCSE] Acacia II for sale
I have an acacia II up for sale. I have flow it periodically for 2-3 years. I did slap the tail down from 8-10 feet high and wrinkled the v-tail, repaired w/ CA. Paint scheme is yellow top/ blue bottoms, 4 x JR 368 digs in wings, 2 x HS-85mg in fuse, nicad 1400 mha, receiver is an Air 92785/FM. There are scratches from the nose to the tail and on both tips, from sloppy landings, this is a good warrior waiting to do battle on the slope. Asking $1,000+ shipping from California. Jim Jacobson Fresno, Ca. ps. I can email pictures for those interested.
[RCSE] JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!
Get ready USA RC Soaring! Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near midnite. The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over to some local brew houses. No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna make this trip count. Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping. Then over to the field for some practice. More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-) Gordy
[RCSE] Re: WTB an Image Update!
I have added info to a wanted post @ RCGROUPS. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394820#post4045055 So far I am in contact with one Image owner and were talking. Thanks, - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:07 AM Subject: WTB an Image I am looking for a Used in good shape or New Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. Please contact me offline. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] Re: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!
Well we have to see about that... stuck in Copenhagen for tech problems for a few hours. Might have to find some nice floor to lay my back on... Lots of security to go thru also everytime I need a beer! Anyhow I have plenty on days to travel on and Gordy gets a few more hours to prepare ;-) See you all! -- Hilsen (Regards) Jojo Jo Grini http://www.grini.no Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:00:28 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---1121778028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get ready USA RC Soaring! Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near midnite. The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over to some local brew houses. No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna make this trip count. Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping. Then over to the field for some practice. More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-) Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!
Just don't let Gordy feed you any of that nasty Kentucky Moonshine. I'll be bringing down some nice Midwest MicroBrews from Wisconsin and Chicago. See ya there! At 09:55 AM 7/19/2005, Jo Grini wrote: Well we have to see about that... stuck in Copenhagen for tech problems for a few hours. Might have to find some nice floor to lay my back on... Lots of security to go thru also everytime I need a beer! Anyhow I have plenty on days to travel on and Gordy gets a few more hours to prepare ;-) See you all! -- Hilsen (Regards) Jojo Jo Grini http://www.grini.no Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:00:28 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---1121778028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get ready USA RC Soaring! Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near midnite. The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over to some local brew houses. No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna make this trip count. Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping. Then over to the field for some practice. More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-) Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] unsubscribing help
Hi. Ive tried to unsubscribe from list. I received a notice saying I would receive a verification request but have still not received it. Ive unsubscribed several times before with no problems, not sure whats happening this time. Who do I contact about this? Thanks, Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, August 7th 2005!
Greetings gents -- The Louisville Area Soaring Society will be holding a Speed 400 class Electric Sailplane (F5J) competition on Sunday, August 7th 2005. 10AM registration, 11 AM start. We are asking for a $10 suggested donation. We will be flying out of a field we haven't used in a while: Sun Valley Park in the South End of Louisville. This might become the field for the 2006 MidSouth! Model limits are simple: Any sailplane with a Speed 400 can motor (non-replaceable brushes), geared or direct drive, up to 8 cells (NiMH or NiCD, no Lipo). We briefly considered charge limits, but that has been thrown out. Rounds will be 1-minute motor run, 10-minute thermal duration, in-or-out landing bonus. If we get enough pilots, we'll be doing a seeded man-on-man. The final round will be an All-Up Last-Down challenge! Trophies to the top 3 pilots, and our local hobby shop, Scale Reproductions, has donated an Electrify FlatOut 3D Plane for the winner of the final round which is an All-Up Last-Down challenge. Expect a casual environment - this F5J stuff is new to us! For more information, including directions, full contest rules, and the contest flyer: http://www.louisvillesoaring.org/ (click on the 2005 F5J Speed 400 Electric Sailplane Contest link on the left nav) Feel free to RSVP to me :) -- Ben Wilson Web Developer/Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 502.836.8551 home: 502.290.0624 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] At the Nats
I will have 4 Dual Solenoid LED and Sound Assembled kits and 6 or more LED only Deluxe kits at the NATS Look me up if you want one. Cal PosthumaLSF VVPersonal Web Pagehttp://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.htmlHome of Solenoid LED's
[RCSE] Janco Models
Just thought I would let everyone know that I will be closingJanco Modelsand transferring the Avenger DLG and the Houston Hawk product line toMatt Fair and Scott Krogmann (they are based in Orlando). Theywill be producing several planes, including the very successful 2M Apex, the Avenger DLG, the Houston Hawk, and the MS-3X, “a composite unlimited using a blend of proprietary airfoils” that is similar to the Compulsion.I have seen their work and they do a great job and they will definitely fill a need inthe RC Sailplane market place. They can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have enjoyed my association with all of my customers and hope I have been able to "bring a smile" to many faces.As always, If I can answer any questions or be of any service to you, please contact me. Don Cleveland
[RCSE] Corrected Email Address
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[RCSE] Hey JoJo, Gordy here from Minneapolis airport...delayed too!
No worries Jo, I'm pretty confident we'll both make it to Louisville in time for some ribs and shine. I actually have a jar of it from my days traveling North Carolina and flying the Lump. Might even bring it along if someone needs some solvent for their throats or wing tape removal. Gordy Min airport this afternoon :-(
Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
How about changing the motor run to 2minutes? That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the cost of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some might have and turns the event into a soaring contest. I'm serious about this suggestion as it allows any model the opportunity to start out on an even opportunity...no one can fly higher than they can see...and almost any electric can get to that height in 2mins. My intention is to use a new foamie 2m sp400 from MPX (if they ever show up)...the only carbon in the plane will be the motor brushes:-) There's plenty of time to change the ruleand increase the fun. GordyMinn airport
Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
We based our rules draft on our research of existing F5J contests (mainly Albuquerque and a few others), combined with the understanding that we are going to have a wide range of models show up considering the newness of this contest. Personally, I wanted to see a pilot's choice motor run (like Alb.) that would eat away at the flight time. We'd set a 10 minute window, and longest unpowered flight time wins but we came to concensus that we'd try the LMR thing first. Since we haven't had a contest like this here before, it's still very much a crapshoot as to what will work best! The rounds are still ultimately up to the CD, so make your 2 minute runtime known to the CD at the contest. The tasks may change from round-to-round. BTW -- I just received word from Jack Iafret that they are going F5J nuts up there in Michigan and that they only do 30-second runtimes which gets most folks up to winch-launch height. To quote: Our S400 ships will do normal winch launched heights in 30 seconds and one minute will put us to stabs-going-away sight range which is why we went the way we did. Think of our contest as F3J with motors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about changing the motor run to 2minutes? There's plenty of time to change the ruleand increase the fun. Gordy Minn airport -- Ben Wilson Web Developer/Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 502.836.8551 home: 502.290.0624 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 'going out of business'
Friends, I'm going to be bringing the whole hangar to munciefor sale. Getting out of the hobby for now -- hoping to get back in a few years from now when at least one son is out of college! includes --over a dozenplanes --3 transmitters (JR388, nearly new Hitec Spectra Module Eclipse, Hitec 2 ch AM w/rx on 32) --bunches of servos (most used, some nib) --some receivers (Hitec, JR 8 channels) --no reasonable offers refused -- those college books are expensive! Dana
[RCSE] Wanted Sharon Pro 3.7 Center section
Anyone got a serviceable center section? White/red preferred, but I gotta get something -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
In a message dated 7/19/05 2:07:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about changing the motor run to 2minutes? That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the cost of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some might have and turns the event into a soaring contest. No, it turns the event into an eyesight contest. Even a 1-minute motor run will put a good SP400 plane out of visual range. The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest. Just my $.02 Lenny
Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
I have been reading this a bit, and after watching the electric Nats for a bit last year, the F5J rules like they fly at ALB is the real deal, the run times to me in AMA events make them a joke, speed 400's were maybe over 1K and the best part was that pilots would ask where the lift was after the motor run. Additionally, Lipolys would evenhelp toobecause then the ships are lighter and can be "a soaring ship" not a near brick. Then you have a soaring contest and then i show up and play. Marc - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Soaring@airage.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus... In a message dated 7/19/05 2:07:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about changing the motor run to 2minutes? That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the cost of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some might have and turns the event into a soaring contest. No, it turns the event into an eyesight contest. Even a 1-minute motor run will put a good SP400 plane out of visual range. The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest. Just my $.02 Lenny
Re: [RCSE] At the Nats
Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have 4 Dual Solenoid LED and Sound Assembled kits and 6 or more LED only Deluxe kits at the NATS Look me up if you want one. Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's What would really be cool for both of us is if you loan or donate sound - LED units to be used on the winches during the competition. Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
Title: Message Also encourages stronger motors, ESC, battery systems to get the plane up faster in less time than thy neighbor. The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest. Just my $.02 Lenny
RE: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
Title: Message Lenny says: "The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest." Jonsays:Also encourages stronger motors, ESC, battery systems to get the plane up faster in less time than thy neighbor. Let's understand this correctly: All the F5Jformats encourage contestants to obtain the maximum possible power system. Regardless of format, there is always an advantagegained with"faster and higher". That said,Lenny is correct. The UMR (unlimited motor run) format shifts thetasks away from higher launch heights and towards thermal skills. Those who can read air better and get that power system shut off sooner now seean advantage, andare gladto take it. Does that make UMR make a better contest? Yes!Better tobring the contest closer in to the pilots, as opposed to the eyesight contest that LMR encourages.And better toemphasize air reading / thermalling skills. UMR ismore challenging in the skills we cherish; thatis why UMR is more fun. Aradhana Singh Khalsa New Mexico
[RCSE] Need LSF X country? How about Friday nite at the NATS?
I know its DHLG Golf nite but it would be a perfect time to do it, conditions allowing. I need L4. You? Meet me at the Nats Friday if you want to help/ participate. Gordy
[RCSE] Challenging Thermalling skills is more fun? Don't think so.. :-)
And better toemphasize air reading / thermalling skills. UMR ismore challenging in the skills we cherish; thatis why UMR is more fun. Yup figured this would get distorted. The post originally was about our local contest, where 50% of the contestants...aren't contestants. But they are guys who I like to fly with a lot and would like to see them do well.We don't need no challenges to have fun, we have fun flying. We have LSF tasks to challenge thermalling skills. Like many, you got soaring confused with thermalling. I don't :-) A 2min motor run gets everyone up to as high as they want and allows them to work the task same as a guy with a sweet tuned F5J ship. He can have the same start as us, time wize and height wize. You guys who compete seriously on the F5J circuit (all two or three events:-) can have what every rules you want, and so can everyone else. Feel free to ask our Louisville group who intends to compete in our first ever F5J event, will ever travel to a 'real' F5J competition. Likely we are talking zero (pending on how much fun they have at this one). Whether on a winch or hand tow or electric, the object is to get to soaring altitude, which likely should be determined by an altitude controlled motor shut off...but for now, we get to do whatever :-) Thanks for the input, it was exactly what I was hoping for! Gordy Louisville, 40mins away from JoJo landing!
Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
That's true. But, if you think that timed motor runs don't do the same you're mistaken. We always want to launch as fast and high as possible. Been there, done that. Lenny In a message dated 7/19/05 7:18:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also encourages stronger motors, ESC, battery systems to get the plane up faster in less time than thy neighbor. The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest. Just my $.02 Lenny
[RCSE] Wanted, Sharon Pro 3.7 parts wanted.
Looking for a Sharon Pro 3.7 center section, Pro fuse and V-tail. white over red preferred. I have a NIB Graupner 4000 Discus kit to trade for partial payment or will sell separately. Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA/LSF Nats HLG Rules Update
A change has been made to the primary/backup rule for Hand Launch Glider, reviewed and approved by Nats management (LSF and AMA) and the AMA Technical Director: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/HLG_Tasks.pdf or link from the HLG page: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/default.html ALSO: More donors added to the Wrokers' Raffle List: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hoopes carbon bracket for db9
hi, wanted to share this bracket Tom Hoopes just produced for 3 piece wings with no mounting bracket in fuse for a db9 connector. Here's the info at RCGroups, I posted some pics. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395128#post4048854 Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Hey JoJo, Gordy here from Minneapolis airport...delayed too!
Guess what! I arrived in Louisville and Gordy showed up as promissed! He was tired himself but set me up in a hotel room and promissed to pick me up tomorrow. Got my planes but clothes is still in Chicago. Updated the website from the wifi onboard the intercontinental flight. Cool but took a while to register. Check http://www.f3x.no/nats Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no Subject: Hey JoJo, Gordy here from Minneapolis airport...delayed too! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---1121802757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No worries Jo, I'm pretty confident we'll both make it to Louisville in time for some ribs and shine. I actually have a jar of it from my days traveling North Carolina and flying the Lump. Might even bring it along if someone needs some solvent for their throats or wing tape removal. Gordy Min airport this afternoon :-( RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Another Stupid Rule: Nats HLG Rules Update
In my 30 + years of flying, we have another stupid rule to benefit the people who do not have a HLG as their backup that is as good as their primary.To not be able to switch planes??? Who check everyobody at all the contests! It is even more ridiculous when people do no realize that the pilot has to take extra time to get a new plane according to other rules for replacement and loose time overall. Nobody can keep things simple or open to encourage design. Now people have to try to get around how bad they fly, compared to other flyers, by using rules to make up for inadequacies. Reminds me of the F3B days when gorilla winches were disallowed because they were to dangerous. Nowadays we see the same winces, only more powerful, being used. DUHHH! This also brings up the missing rule for the pilot or timer that gets hit during a launch. The offender gets punished, but why must the offenDed? They are rolling on the ground in pain, their plane perhaps crashing because they cannot fly it, yet they can't refly a round because they can't be mixed back into the frequency roataion. Another missing issue. Next time when your losing, why not take out an opponent? It's nice to know the TPG have their act together regarding HLG and to know the AMA still remains in the Dark Ages of progress. Flame on. Chris Adams LSF 348 (LvLV #8) AMA 53500 CD Original Message Subject: [RCSE] AMA/LSF Nats HLG Rules UpdateFrom: Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tue, July 19, 2005 9:24 pmTo: RCSE Soaring Exchange Soaring@Airage.com, Balsa SailplanesExchange [EMAIL PROTECTED]A change has been made to the primary/backup rule for Hand LaunchGlider, reviewed and approved by Nats management (LSF and AMA) and theAMA Technical Director:http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/HLG_Tasks.pdfor link from the HLG page:http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/default.htmlALSO:More donors added to the Wrokers' Raffle List:http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.htmlTom KallevangWheeling, ILLSF President WebmasterLSF #303 Level V #103AMA L292SOAR (Chicago)__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format