[RCSE] Acacia II for sale

2005-07-19 Thread JJ MJ




I have an acacia II up for sale. I have flow it periodically for 2-3 years. I 
did slap the tail down from 8-10 feet high and wrinkled the v-tail, repaired w/ 
CA. Paint scheme is yellow top/ blue bottoms, 4 x JR 368 digs in wings, 2 x 
HS-85mg in fuse, nicad 1400 mha, receiver is an Air 92785/FM. There are 
scratches from the nose to the tail and on both tips, from sloppy landings, this 
is a good warrior waiting to do battle on the slope. Asking $1,000+ shipping from 
California.
Jim Jacobson 

Fresno, Ca.

ps. I can email pictures for those interested.



[RCSE] JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!

2005-07-19 Thread GordySoar



Get ready USA RC Soaring! Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near 
midnite.

The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over to 
some local brew houses. No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna make 
this trip count.

Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping.
Then over to the field for some practice.

More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-)
Gordy


[RCSE] Re: WTB an Image Update!

2005-07-19 Thread John D Frugé



I have added info to a wanted post @ 
RCGROUPS.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394820#post4045055

So far I am in contact with one Image owner and 
were talking.

Thanks,

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John D 
  Frugé 
  To: soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:07 AM
  Subject: WTB an Image
  
  I am looking for a Used in good shape or New 
  Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. 
  Please contact me offline. 
  
  Thanks,
  
  John Fruge


[RCSE] Re: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!

2005-07-19 Thread Jo Grini

Well we have to see about that... stuck in Copenhagen for tech problems for a 
few hours. Might have to find some nice floor to lay my back on... Lots of 
security to go thru also everytime I need a beer! 
Anyhow I have plenty on days to travel on and Gordy gets a few more hours to 
prepare ;-)
See you all!
-- 
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo

Jo Grini
http://www.grini.no

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Get ready USA RC Soaring!  Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near  
midnite.
 
The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over to  
some local brew houses.  No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna make  
this trip count.
 
Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping.
Then over to the field for some practice.
 
More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-)

Gordy

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Re: [RCSE] Re: JoJo Hits Louisville tonite!

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Meyer

Just don't let Gordy feed you any of that nasty Kentucky Moonshine.

I'll be bringing down some nice Midwest MicroBrews from Wisconsin and 
Chicago.


See ya there!

At 09:55 AM 7/19/2005, Jo Grini wrote:

Well we have to see about that... stuck in Copenhagen for tech problems 
for a few hours. Might have to find some nice floor to lay my back on... 
Lots of security to go thru also everytime I need a beer!
Anyhow I have plenty on days to travel on and Gordy gets a few more hours 
to prepare ;-)

See you all!
--
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo

Jo Grini
http://www.grini.no

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Get ready USA RC Soaring!  Jo Grini arrives tonite in Louisville near
midnite.

The plan is to take him directly for a big rack of juicy ribs, then over 
to
some local brew houses.  No sleep the entire trip for him, we're gonna 
make

this trip count.

Then out to my horse for some cross country jumping.
Then over to the field for some practice.

More on the itinerary after his plane arrives :-)

Gordy

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[RCSE] unsubscribing help

2005-07-19 Thread Marta Zavala
Hi.  Ive tried to unsubscribe from list.  I received a notice saying I would
receive a verification request but have still not received it.  Ive
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[RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, August 7th 2005!

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Wilson

Greetings gents --

The Louisville Area Soaring Society will be holding a Speed 400 class 
Electric Sailplane (F5J) competition on Sunday, August 7th 2005.  10AM 
registration, 11 AM start.  We are asking for a $10 suggested donation.


We will be flying out of a field we haven't used in a while: Sun Valley 
Park in the South End of Louisville.  This might become the field for 
the 2006 MidSouth!


Model limits are simple: Any sailplane with a Speed 400 can motor 
(non-replaceable brushes), geared or direct drive, up to 8 cells (NiMH 
or NiCD, no Lipo).  We briefly considered charge limits, but that has 
been thrown out.


Rounds will be 1-minute motor run, 10-minute thermal duration, in-or-out 
landing bonus.  If we get enough pilots, we'll be doing a seeded 
man-on-man.  The final round will be an All-Up Last-Down challenge!


Trophies to the top 3 pilots, and our local hobby shop, Scale 
Reproductions, has donated an Electrify FlatOut 3D Plane for the winner 
of the final round which is an All-Up Last-Down challenge.


Expect a casual environment - this F5J stuff is new to us!

For more information, including directions, full contest rules, and the 
contest flyer:


http://www.louisvillesoaring.org/

(click on the 2005 F5J Speed 400 Electric Sailplane Contest link on 
the left nav)


Feel free to RSVP to me :)

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[RCSE] At the Nats

2005-07-19 Thread Cal Posthuma



I will have 4 Dual Solenoid LED and Sound Assembled 
kits and 6 or more LED only Deluxe kits at the NATS

Look me up if you want one.

Cal PosthumaLSF VVPersonal Web Pagehttp://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.htmlHome 
of Solenoid LED's




[RCSE] Janco Models

2005-07-19 Thread DClevel130



Just thought I would let everyone know that I will be closingJanco 
Modelsand transferring the Avenger DLG and the Houston Hawk product line 
toMatt Fair and Scott Krogmann (they are based in Orlando). 
Theywill be producing several planes, including the very successful 2M 
Apex, the Avenger DLG, the Houston Hawk, and the MS-3X, “a composite unlimited 
using a blend of proprietary airfoils” that is similar to the 
Compulsion.I have seen their work and they do a 
great job and they will definitely fill a need inthe RC Sailplane market 
place. They can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have 
enjoyed my association with all of my customers and hope I have been able to 
"bring a smile" to many faces.As always, If I can answer any questions or 
be of any service to you, please contact me.

Don Cleveland


[RCSE] Corrected Email Address

2005-07-19 Thread DClevel130



[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry

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[RCSE] Hey JoJo, Gordy here from Minneapolis airport...delayed too!

2005-07-19 Thread GordySoar



No worries Jo, 
I'm pretty confident we'll both make it to Louisville in time for some ribs 
and shine.

I actually have a jar of it from my days traveling North Carolina and 
flying the Lump.

Might even bring it along if someone needs some solvent for their throats 
or wing tape removal.
Gordy
Min airport this afternoon :-(


Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread GordySoar



How about changing the motor run to 2minutes?

That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the cost 
of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some might 
have and turns the event into a soaring contest.
I'm serious about this suggestion as it allows any model the 
opportunity to start out on an even opportunity...no one can fly higher than 
they can see...and almost any electric can get to that height in 2mins.

My intention is to use a new foamie 2m sp400 from MPX (if they ever show 
up)...the only carbon in the plane will be the motor brushes:-)

There's plenty of time to change the ruleand increase the fun.
GordyMinn airport


Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Wilson
We based our rules draft on our research of existing F5J contests 
(mainly Albuquerque and a few others), combined with the understanding 
that we are going to have a wide range of models show up considering the 
newness of this contest.


Personally, I wanted to see a pilot's choice motor run (like Alb.) 
that would eat away at the flight time.  We'd set a 10 minute window, 
and longest unpowered flight time wins  but we came to concensus 
that we'd try the LMR thing first.


Since we haven't had a contest like this here before, it's still very 
much a crapshoot as to what will work best!  The rounds are still 
ultimately up to the CD, so make your 2 minute runtime known to the CD 
at the contest.  The tasks may change from round-to-round.


BTW -- I just received word from Jack Iafret that they are going F5J 
nuts up there in Michigan and that they only do 30-second runtimes which 
gets most folks up to winch-launch height. To quote:


Our S400 ships will do normal winch launched heights in 30 seconds and 
one minute will put us to stabs-going-away sight range which is why we

went the way we did. Think of our contest as F3J with motors.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How about changing the motor run to 2minutes?
 
There's plenty of time to change the ruleand increase the fun.


Gordy
Minn airport



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[RCSE] 'going out of business'

2005-07-19 Thread Dana Flemming
Friends,

I'm going to be bringing the whole hangar to munciefor sale.

Getting out of the hobby for now -- hoping to get back in a few years from now when at least one son is out of college!

includes
--over a dozenplanes 
--3 transmitters (JR388, nearly new Hitec Spectra Module Eclipse, Hitec 2 ch AM w/rx on 32)
--bunches of servos (most used, some nib)
--some receivers (Hitec, JR 8 channels)
--no reasonable offers refused -- those college books are expensive!

Dana 


[RCSE] Wanted Sharon Pro 3.7 Center section

2005-07-19 Thread Lex Mierop
Anyone got a serviceable center section?  White/red preferred, but I gotta
get something

-l
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Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread Lenny970




In a message dated 7/19/05 2:07:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  How about changing the motor run to 2minutes?
  
  That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the cost 
  of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some might 
  have and turns the event into a soaring 
contest.

No, it turns the event into an eyesight contest. Even a 1-minute 
motor run will put a good SP400 plane out of visual range. 

The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using 
as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score 
begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format 
encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest.


Just my $.02

Lenny




Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread ROBERT M GELLART



I have been reading this a bit, and after watching the electric Nats for a 
bit last year, the F5J rules like they fly at ALB is the real deal, the run 
times to me in AMA events make them a joke, speed 400's were maybe over 1K and 
the best part was that pilots would ask where the lift was after the motor 
run. Additionally, Lipolys would evenhelp toobecause then the 
ships are lighter and can be "a soaring ship" not a near brick. Then you 
have a soaring contest and then i show up and play.

Marc

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:40 
PM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 
  Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...
  
  
  In a message dated 7/19/05 2:07:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
How about changing the motor run to 2minutes?

That will allow ANY plane to get to thermal height regardless of the 
cost of the motor/power plant. That negates any launch advantage some 
might have and turns the event into a soaring 
  contest.
  
  No, it turns the event into an eyesight contest. Even a 1-minute 
  motor run will put a good SP400 plane out of visual range. 
  
  The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using 
  as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score 
  begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format 
  encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest.
  
  
  Just my $.02
  
  Lenny
  
  


Re: [RCSE] At the Nats

2005-07-19 Thread miamimike
Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I will have 4 Dual Solenoid LED and Sound Assembled kits and 6 or more LED 
only Deluxe kits at the NATS

Look me up if you want one.

Cal Posthuma
LSF VV
Personal Web Page
http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html
Home of Solenoid LED's

What would really be cool for both of us is if you loan or donate sound - LED
units to be used on the winches during the competition.

Mike
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Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/
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RE: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread Jon Stone
Title: Message



Also encourages 
stronger motors, ESC,  battery systems to get the plane up faster in less 
time than thy neighbor.

  The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using 
  as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score 
  begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This format 
  encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal contest.
  
  
  Just my $.02
  
  Lenny
  
  


RE: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread Aradhana Singh Khalsa
Title: Message



Lenny says: "The new "unlimited 
motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot using as much or as little 
motor run as he deems necessary. Duration score begins when the motor is 
shut off, just like a winch event. This format encourages lower launch 
heights and is much more of a thermal 
contest."

Jonsays:Also encourages stronger 
motors, ESC,  battery systems to get the plane up faster in less time than 
thy neighbor.

Let's understand this correctly: All the 
F5Jformats encourage contestants to obtain the maximum possible 
power system. Regardless of format, there is always an advantagegained 
with"faster and higher".

That said,Lenny is correct. The UMR (unlimited 
motor run) format shifts thetasks away from higher launch heights and 
towards thermal skills. Those who can read air better and get that power system 
shut off sooner now seean advantage, andare gladto take it. 


Does that make UMR make a better contest? 
Yes!Better tobring the contest closer in to the pilots, as opposed 
to the eyesight contest that LMR encourages.And better toemphasize 
air reading / thermalling skills. UMR ismore challenging in the skills we 
cherish; thatis why UMR is more fun.

Aradhana Singh 
Khalsa
New 
Mexico


[RCSE] Need LSF X country? How about Friday nite at the NATS?

2005-07-19 Thread GordySoar



I know its DHLG Golf nite but it would be a perfect time to do it, 
conditions allowing.
I need L4. You?

Meet me at the Nats Friday if you want to help/ participate.
Gordy


[RCSE] Challenging Thermalling skills is more fun? Don't think so.. :-)

2005-07-19 Thread GordySoar



And better toemphasize air reading / 
thermalling skills. UMR ismore challenging in the skills we cherish; 
thatis why UMR is more fun.

Yup figured this would get distorted. 
The post originally was about our local contest, where 50% of the 
contestants...aren't contestants.

But they are guys who I like to fly with a 
lot and would like to see them do well.We don't need no challenges to 
have fun, we have fun flying. We have LSF tasks to challenge thermalling 
skills.

Like many, you got soaring confused with 
thermalling. I don't :-)
A 2min motor run gets everyone up to as 
high as they want and allows them to work the task same as a guy with a 
sweet tuned F5J ship.
He can have the same start as us, time wize 
and height wize.

You guys who compete seriously on the F5J 
circuit (all two or three events:-) can have what every rules you want, and so 
can everyone else. 

Feel free to ask our Louisville group who 
intends to compete in our first ever F5J event, will ever travel to a 'real' F5J 
competition. Likely we are talking zero (pending on how much fun they have 
at this one).

Whether on a winch or hand tow or electric, 
the object is to get to soaring altitude, which likely should be determined by 
an altitude controlled motor shut off...but for now, we get to do whatever 
:-)
Thanks for the input, it was exactly what I 
was hoping for!
Gordy
Louisville, 40mins away from JoJo 
landing!



Re: [RCSE] LASS Speed 400 Electric Sailplane (F5J) Competition: Sunday, Augus...

2005-07-19 Thread Lenny970





That's true. But, if you think that timed motor runs don't do the 
same you're mistaken. We always want to launch as fast and high as 
possible. Been there, done that.

Lenny


In a message dated 7/19/05 7:18:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Also encourages stronger 
  motors, ESC,  battery systems to get the plane up faster in less time 
  than thy neighbor.
  
The new "unlimited motor run" rules work very well, with each pilot 
using as much or as little motor run as he deems necessary. Duration 
score begins when the motor is shut off, just like a winch event. This 
format encourages lower launch heights and is much more of a thermal 
contest.


Just my $.02

Lenny




[RCSE] Wanted, Sharon Pro 3.7 parts wanted.

2005-07-19 Thread mrmaserati
Looking for a Sharon Pro 3.7 center section, Pro fuse and V-tail. white over 
red preferred.

I have a NIB Graupner 4000 Discus kit to trade for partial payment or will sell 
separately.

Regards, Dave Corven. 
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[RCSE] AMA/LSF Nats HLG Rules Update

2005-07-19 Thread Tom Kallevang
A change has been made to the primary/backup rule for Hand Launch
Glider, reviewed and approved by Nats management (LSF and AMA) and the
AMA Technical Director:

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/HLG_Tasks.pdf

or link from the HLG page:

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/default.html

ALSO:

More donors added to the Wrokers' Raffle List:

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html



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[RCSE] Hoopes carbon bracket for db9

2005-07-19 Thread D Hauch
hi,
wanted to share this bracket Tom Hoopes just produced for 3 piece
wings with no mounting bracket in fuse for a db9 connector.

Here's the info at RCGroups, I posted some pics.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395128#post4048854

Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
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[RCSE] Re: Hey JoJo, Gordy here from Minneapolis airport...delayed too!

2005-07-19 Thread Jo Grini

Guess what! I arrived in Louisville and Gordy showed up as promissed!
He was tired himself but set me up in a hotel room and promissed to pick me up 
tomorrow.
Got my planes but clothes is still in Chicago.

Updated the website from the wifi onboard the intercontinental flight. Cool but 
took a while to register.
Check  http://www.f3x.no/nats 

Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
www.grini.no 


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 No worries Jo, 
 I'm pretty confident we'll both make it to Louisville in time for some ribs  
 and shine.
 
 I actually have a jar of it from my days traveling North Carolina and  flying 
 the Lump.
 
 Might even bring it along if someone needs some solvent for their throats  or 
 wing tape removal.
 
 Gordy
 Min airport this afternoon :-(
 
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[RCSE] Another Stupid Rule: Nats HLG Rules Update

2005-07-19 Thread chris
In my 30 + years of
flying, we have another stupid rule to benefit the people who do not
have a HLG as their backup that is as good as their primary.To
not be able to switch planes??? Who check everyobody at all the
contests! It is even more ridiculous when people do no realize
that the pilot has to take extra time to get a new plane according to
other rules for replacement and loose time overall.

Nobody can keep
things simple or open to encourage design. Now people have to try
to get around how bad they fly, compared to other flyers, by using rules
to make up for inadequacies. Reminds me of the F3B days when
gorilla winches were disallowed because they were to dangerous.
Nowadays we see the same winces, only more powerful, being used.
DUHHH!

This also brings up
the missing rule for the pilot or timer that gets hit during a
launch. The offender gets punished, but why must the
offenDed? They are rolling on the ground in pain, their plane
perhaps crashing because they cannot fly it, yet they can't refly a
round because they can't be mixed back into the frequency
roataion. Another missing issue. Next time when your
losing, why not take out an opponent?

It's nice to know
the TPG have their act together regarding HLG and to know the AMA still
remains in the Dark Ages of progress.

Flame on.

Chris
Adams
LSF 348 (LvLV
#8)
AMA 53500
CD




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change has been made to the primary/backup rule for Hand
LaunchGlider, reviewed and approved by Nats management (LSF and
AMA) and theAMA Technical
Director:http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/HLG_Tasks.pdfor
link from the HLG
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