Re: [RCSE] getting started in RC soaring
I think there are fewer builders and a lot of ARFs because there is a market for it. It's just economics. The best builders produce and sell kits or planes. If the demand is not met more builders step in or you build one yourself. It's just pure business. Many don't hone their building skills because they are actively making money at their job/business so they can enjoy the little spare time they have. Seems here in USA we are putting in more hours at work than our ancestors. If everyone was a builder there would be no buyers, the builder would not get better because they could not afford to make a lot of planes. I think the laws of commerce are working fine in the soaring community. Steve At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, Phil Barnes wrote: ... To answer John's question: I think it might be less than 10-20% scratch builders that enter the NATS. The way things are going, it won't be long before it will be hard to find guys who can even put together an ARF model. I don't know what to do about that other than being a resource for that type of information. Certainly the internet makes it easy for people to get the information needed to learn how to scratch build. ... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] convert this please
At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard
[RCSE] Rob Allen from Kentucky?
I believe Rob Allen from Louisville sent me applications for contest sanctions. Please contact me. thank you, Richard Burnoski
RE: [RCSE] convert this please
Rich, it is 1266 sq.in. John -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:29 AMTo: soaring@airage.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] convert this please At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard
RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc.
I agree that ARFs have their place in our hobby, especially for those of us that have the 8 to 5 jobs. I have to admit that I do like the spirit of events like Woodcrafters, if only in that it keeps the building segment of our hobby invigorated. That being said, it would be nice to at least recognize the builders - maybe not seperate events or contests, but maybe a seperate award? Top Fly what you Built and a package of 30 minute epoxy as a prize? Sort of serious there. Still fly and compete with the rest, just an acknowledgment of the craftsmanship. I guess I'm really looking for a way to encourage fliers or guests that only see the expensive side of the hobby. It's much easier to sell soaring if you can point out a $100 ship as a way to try us out; most people I've talked to sort of zone out when you say a ship cost $1,000 bucks without servos. It's an especially hard sell if they're standing there with a 12 year-old son or daughter that's the one interested. Maybe that's part of why it's easier to get new slopers out? Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc.
-Original Message- From: Douglas, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:56 AM To: RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc. most people I've talked to sort of zone out when you say a ship cost $1,000 bucks without servos. It's an especially hard sell if they're standing there with a 12 year-old son or daughter that's the one interested. Food for thought - How may 10 - 12 year olds have an X-Box 360, cell phone , laptop pc, iPod...ect. 8^) John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] sMPX software Karlton?
After touting the ability to backup my transmitter settups, I realized the guy who sold me the cable left the business. Is anyone selling these cables now? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] convert this please, got it! tnkx
got it, thanks
[RCSE] SS on MPX
I just heard from the Horizon Hobbies Product Support Team. They have no plans to provide a SS module for the 3030. Hey Ernie, any possibilty that a unit for another brand TX would work for MPX? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . 81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches. 36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot. Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . 1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet. 12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces. The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing loading. To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in ounces per square foot. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
Hi Richard, I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL... www.dankitching.com/convert.exe Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds of conversions, including square meter to square foot. I think your buddy Jim Bacus must have it on his computer... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please Hi Richard, I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL... www.dankitching.com/convert.exe Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
For metric conversion go to http://convert.french-property.co.uk/For language try http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Hpe this help in the future...Lee in Nevada[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
[RCSE] MPX Servo Arms
Anyone have some virgin servo arms for those red servos? Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
I really like this one: http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/ Quoting John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds of conversions, including square meter to square foot. I think your buddy Jim Bacus must have it on his computer... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please Hi Richard, I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL... www.dankitching.com/convert.exe Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really like this one: http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/ That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
For quick-hit stuff - I often use Google. Put 81.7 dm^2 in in^2 into Google and see what happens. Works for a number of calculations, even tsp in tbsp 180 lbs in stone etc. -- ben wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thelocust.org/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
There should be a caret between dm and 2 - but some email clients change them automatically to superscript. e.g. d m ^ 2 (w/o spaces) Ben Wilson wrote: For quick-hit stuff - I often use Google. Put 81.7 dm^2 in in^2 into Google and see what happens. Works for a number of calculations, even tsp in tbsp 180 lbs in stone etc. -- ben wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thelocust.org/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
In a message dated 1/27/2006 12:58:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? For that you don't need much help - just divide by 3! (well, it's pretty close!) Good Lift! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
Hi Phil, Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm^2 to lb/ft^2. Since kg/cm^2 is g/m^2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft^2 I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple of other things for electric fliers and wing loading. Dan Phil Barnes wrote: That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
I do, but you guys appear to have answered Richard's question faster than the opportunity I had to. At 11:21 AM 1/27/2006, John Erickson wrote: I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds of conversions, including square meter to square foot. I think your buddy Jim Bacus must have it on his computer... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please Hi Richard, I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL... www.dankitching.com/convert.exe Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Falcon 880 for sale
Complete kit with plans. Minor work started. 200$ OBO + shipping. Please respond off list. Pictures available. Thanks, Dan Neelands RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
Phil, use area to get the area conversion... centimeters2 to inches or foot 2 that give you area in our system. 81.7 dm2 = 8170cm2 = 8.79ft2 Then convert the wing loading using mass. 36.7 G = 1.29 or 1.3 oz Now to convert the 1.3 from dm to foot squared use convert to convert area 100 centimeters 2 = 0.107 foot 2 to get 1 sqft you would multiply by 10 so the 1.3 becomes 1.3*10 = 13 oz/ft2 pretty damn high wing loading. What I like about doing it seperate is that I now know what the area of the wing is in our system and what th At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard Phil Barnes wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really like this one: http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/ That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Paging Jeff Nibler
Title: Paging Jeff Nibler Jeff, please contact me with your mailing address. gv
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
Convert.exe is a wonderful application that I use myself fairly frequently. That said, unles its changed recently, it doesn't do the conversion in question. Rule of thumb, to convert gm/dm squared to oz/ft squared, just divide by 3. You'll be close enough for most purposes. Hi Richard, I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL... www.dankitching.com/convert.exe Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format George Gillburg Bakersfield, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
- Original Message - From: Phil Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window. divide g/dm2 by 3.05 to get oz/ ft2 Simply remembering to divide by 3 will get you within 2%. Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] convert this please
Here is what I use for conversion of just about anything. http://www.convert-me.com/en/ JD -Original Message- From: Jon Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:45 PM To: Phil Barnes; Soaring List Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please - Original Message - From: Phil Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anybody tell me how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window. divide g/dm2 by 3.05 to get oz/ ft2 Simply remembering to divide by 3 will get you within 2%. Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7044
Convert it yourself, easily. http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringFri, 27 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7044 In this issue: convert this please -- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:29:17 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: convert this please Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . Thanks in advance, Richard --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit htmlbody P SCRIPT language=javascriptpostamble();/SCRIPT At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXLnbsp; is listed with 81.7 dm squares andnbsp; BR36.7 grams/ dm square./P PCan someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . /P PThanks in advance, RichardBRBR/P/body/html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24629_1138375757_0-- -- End of Soaring V1 #7044 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
In a message dated 1/27/2006 2:14:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil, use area to get the area conversion... centimeters2 to inches or foot 2 that give you area in our system. 81.7 dm2 = 8170cm2 = 8.79ft2 Then convert the wing loading using mass. 36.7 G = 1.29 or 1.3 oz Now to convert the 1.3 from dm to foot squared use convert to convert area 100 centimeters 2 = 0.107 foot 2 to get 1 sqft you would multiply by 10 so the 1.3 becomes 1.3*10 = 13 oz/ft2 pretty damn high wing loading. What I like about doing it seperate is that I now know what the area of the wing is in our system and what th And all the rest have peanut butter, except for Grandmother and she drives a Cadillac! Good Lift! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Reslling Space Pro from Daryl.
I got this Space Pro a few months ago from DP. I have not started putting it together yet need room in the house. Have a new baby plus a few new planes. $900 local pickup (Orange County, CA) or $975 shipped paypal. My wife would love for me to keep it, but I can't justify paying over a million and a half for the size of home I need to store these things... :) Home values are crazy here... I also have it listed on Rcgroups. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470823#post4951712 Thanks! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] getting started in RC soaring
The underlying point Steve is making is about specialization. You may be a slow builder, but you can make money fast in your profession. Despite all the modern conveniences - broadband communications, pervasive road networks, fast computers, etc., we have less free time now than ever before. The pressures on our personal time were never greater. It makes sense to create wealth in the most efficient way and write checks for everything else. Everyone has their own priorities for their free time and some may prefer to spend more time building than flying. On Jan 27, 2006, at 5:56 AM, S Meyer wrote: I think there are fewer builders and a lot of ARFs because there is a market for it. It's just economics. The best builders produce and sell kits or planes. If the demand is not met more builders step in or you build one yourself. It's just pure business. Many don't hone their building skills because they are actively making money at their job/business so they can enjoy the little spare time they have. Seems here in USA we are putting in more hours at work than our ancestors. If everyone was a builder there would be no buyers, the builder would not get better because they could not afford to make a lot of planes. I think the laws of commerce are working fine in the soaring community. Steve At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, Phil Barnes wrote: ... To answer John's question: I think it might be less than 10-20% scratch builders that enter the NATS. The way things are going, it won't be long before it will be hard to find guys who can even put together an ARF model. I don't know what to do about that other than being a resource for that type of information. Certainly the internet makes it easy for people to get the information needed to learn how to scratch build. ... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
The question I meant to ask was how to use the little conversion program to do conversions that were not already on the menu. Someone was kind enough to respond off list so I'll repeat the information here; Click on options at the top of the window, then click on preferences. Then click on custom. You type the conversion into that window and then when you click on custom on the regular menu you will see the custom conversions that you have typed in. The conversions that you need for the question that Rich asked about are; 1 gram per decimeter squared = .327123 ounces per foot squared 1 decimeter squared = 15.50003 inches squared I already knew how to do the conversions manually as evidenced by my earlier post reprinted below: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . 81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches. 36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot. Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . 1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet. 12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces. The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing loading. To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in ounces per square foot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: New Spread Spectrum Radios
'*Spektrum DX6 - Actual Field Results*' (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452817) -- hilgert hilgert's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=51918 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469797 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2m Extreme CG, Please
I'm looking for a starting point of CG on the 2m Extreme. Any help would be great. Thanks, Pauly Hart. -- paulywood paulywood's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=15390 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470585 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] convert this please
Hi Phil, Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm2 to lb/ft2. Since kg/cm2 is g/m2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft2 I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple of other things for electric fliers and wing loading. Dan Phil Barnes wrote: The question I meant to ask was how to use the little conversion program to do conversions that were not already on the menu. Someone was kind enough to respond off list so I'll repeat the information here; Click on options at the top of the window, then click on preferences. Then click on custom. You type the conversion into that window and then when you click on custom on the regular menu you will see the custom conversions that you have typed in. The conversions that you need for the question that Rich asked about are; 1 gram per decimeter squared = .327123 ounces per foot squared 1 decimeter squared = 15.50003 inches squared I already knew how to do the conversions manually as evidenced by my earlier post reprinted below: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square. Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . 81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches. 36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot. Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . 1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet. 12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces. The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing loading. To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in ounces per square foot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ???
amapmfg2003 wrote: I would like info on a plane called son of savage who made it Mark Rebeck who sold it Mark Rebeck it is 60 sloper full flying stab on lg vert fin reported to have E205 airfoil . It was very popular here in South OC, where Mark lives, in the early 90's. It was famous at Kite Hill in Laguna Niguel. It went out of fashion as other better designs came along. They have been out of production for at least a decade. Mark is a car guy now. I think he is still in OC however. I had a couple (since I only lived 5 minutes from Kite Hill back then) but never really liked it much. WEM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New Spread Spectrum Radios
With all this talk of the new Spread Spectrum radios I just bought one today. Thanks guys for pushing me over the edge, more new technology for me to learn about and enjoy. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ???
this guy has SOS kits, but i think it was smaller, maybe he has two sizes, not for sure, but i did bag wings for a 42''er. Joe Manor [EMAIL PROTECTED] (951) 334-3918 here's a build thread; http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290505 Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: amapmfg2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ??? I would like info on a plane called son of savage who made it who sold it it is 60 sloper full flying stab on lg vert fin reported to have E205 airfoil . If you have one fill me in or sell it to me Thanks George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ebay Airtronics radios few hours remain
1 ATRCS/ Vision Transmitter w/ battery 2 Module Transmitters w/battery 6 Transmitter modules (channels 14,16,24,26,34, 35? Not sure) 4 Receiver crystals (channels14,16,34,35) 1 Protective case for Transmitter http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6032012414rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WTB Zenith x-tail or trade for Insanity
anyone have one of these they want to sell or work out a trade on a new Insanity ? Dave Hauchwww.git-r-built.com
[RCSE] Insurance Question
Has anyone really read the insurance policy from Westchester on the AMA site? According to the verbage there is a $250,000 Self Insured Retention. The verbage "Self Insured Retention" is a fancy way of saying "Deductible". I know I certainly couldn't afford a deductible this high and I realize some damage would or could be covered under my home owners policy but how protected are we? So does anyone know where in the 57 pages of the liability policy where it states something different? Thanks--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, Wa Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.