Re: [RCSE] getting started in RC soaring

2006-01-27 Thread S Meyer
I think there are fewer builders and a lot of ARFs because there is a 
market for it.  It's just economics.  The best builders produce and 
sell kits or planes.  If the demand is not met more builders step in 
or you build one yourself.  It's just pure business.  Many don't hone 
their building skills because they are actively making money at their 
job/business so they can enjoy the little spare time they 
have.  Seems here in USA we are putting in more hours at work than 
our ancestors.


If everyone was a builder there would be no buyers, the builder would 
not get better because they could not afford to make a lot of planes.


I think the laws of commerce are working fine in the soaring community.


Steve


At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, Phil Barnes wrote:

...
To answer John's question: I think it might be less than 10-20% 
scratch builders that enter the NATS. The way things are going, it 
won't be long before it will be hard to find guys who can even put 
together an ARF model. I don't know what to do about that other than 
being a resource for that type of information. Certainly the 
internet makes it easy for people to get the information needed to 
learn how to scratch  build.

...


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[RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread RBurnoski



At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square.
Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . 
Thanks in advance, Richard


[RCSE] Rob Allen from Kentucky?

2006-01-27 Thread RBurnoski



I believe Rob Allen from Louisville sent me applications for contest sanctions. Please contact me. thank you, Richard Burnoski


RE: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread John Diniz



Rich, 
it is 1266 sq.in.
John

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:29 
  AMTo: soaring@airage.comCc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] convert this 
  please
  
  
  At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares 
  and 36.7 grams/ dm square.
  Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want 
  to figure the wing loading at different all up weights . 
  Thanks in advance, Richard


RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc.

2006-01-27 Thread Douglas, Brent
I agree that ARFs have their place in our hobby, especially for those of
us that have the 8 to 5 jobs.  I have to admit that I do like the spirit
of events like Woodcrafters, if only in that it keeps the building
segment of our hobby invigorated.

That being said, it would be nice to at least recognize the builders -
maybe not seperate events or contests, but maybe a seperate award?  Top
Fly what you Built and a package of 30 minute epoxy as a prize?  Sort
of serious there.  Still fly and compete with the rest, just an
acknowledgment of the craftsmanship.

I guess I'm really looking for a way to encourage fliers or guests that
only see the expensive side of the hobby. It's much easier to sell
soaring if you can point out a $100 ship as a way to try us out; most
people I've talked to sort of zone out when you say a ship cost $1,000
bucks without servos.  It's an especially hard sell if they're standing
there with a 12 year-old son or daughter that's the one interested.  

Maybe that's part of why it's easier to get new slopers out?  

Brent
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RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc.

2006-01-27 Thread John Diniz


-Original Message-
From: Douglas, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:56 AM
To: RCSE
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Wood Crafters / Builders etc.
 
most people I've talked to sort of zone out when you say a ship cost $1,000
bucks without servos.  It's an especially hard sell if they're standing
there with a 12 year-old son or daughter that's the one interested.

Food for thought - How may 10 - 12 year olds have an X-Box 360, cell phone , 
laptop pc, iPod...ect.
8^)
John

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[RCSE] sMPX software Karlton?

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Swingle
After touting the ability to backup my transmitter settups, I realized the 
guy who sold me the cable left the business.


Is anyone selling these cables now?

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


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RE: [RCSE] convert this please, got it! tnkx

2006-01-27 Thread RBurnoski



got it, thanks


[RCSE] SS on MPX

2006-01-27 Thread Bill Swingle
I just heard from the Horizon Hobbies Product Support Team. They have no 
plans to provide a SS module for the 3030.


Hey Ernie, any possibilty that a unit for another brand TX would work for 
MPX?


Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Phil Barnes


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At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
36.7 grams/ dm square.
Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet .


81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches.

36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot.


Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .


1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet.

12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces.

The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing 
loading.


To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your 
weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in ounces per 
square foot.


Phil 



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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Dan Kitching

Hi Richard,

I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can 
convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't 
need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL...


www.dankitching.com/convert.exe

   Dan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 
36.7 grams/ dm square.


Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i 
want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .


Thanks in advance, Richard


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread John Erickson
I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds
of conversions, including square meter to square foot.  I think your buddy
Jim Bacus must have it on his computer...

JE
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 From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: soaring@airage.com
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please
 
 Hi Richard,
 
 I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can
 convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't
 need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL...
 
 www.dankitching.com/convert.exe
 
   Dan
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
 36.7 grams/ dm square.
 
 Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i
 want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .
 
 Thanks in advance, Richard
 
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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Lee Cox
For metric conversion go to  http://convert.french-property.co.uk/For language try  http://babelfish.altavista.com/  Hpe this help in the future...Lee in Nevada[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 36.7 grams/ dm square.  Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .   Thanks in advance, Richard 
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[RCSE] MPX Servo Arms

2006-01-27 Thread Marc Gellart
Anyone have some virgin servo arms for those red servos?

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread lomcovak
I really like this one:

http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/

Quoting John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds
 of conversions, including square meter to square foot.  I think your buddy
 Jim Bacus must have it on his computer...
 
 JE
 --
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 John R. Erickson, AIA
 
 
  From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: soaring@airage.com
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please
  
  Hi Richard,
  
  I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can
  convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't
  need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL...
  
  www.dankitching.com/convert.exe
  
Dan
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
  36.7 grams/ dm square.
  
  Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i
  want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .
  
  Thanks in advance, Richard
  
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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Phil Barnes


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I really like this one:

http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/

That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me how 
you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the 
custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no 
instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


Phil 



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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Ben Wilson

For quick-hit stuff - I often use Google.

Put 81.7 dm^2 in in^2 into Google and see what happens.

Works for a number of calculations, even tsp in tbsp

180 lbs in stone

etc.


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Ben Wilson
There should be a caret between dm and 2 - but some email clients 
change them automatically to superscript.


e.g. d m ^ 2 (w/o spaces)

Ben Wilson wrote:

For quick-hit stuff - I often use Google.

Put 81.7 dm^2 in in^2 into Google and see what happens.

Works for a number of calculations, even tsp in tbsp

180 lbs in stone

etc.





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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 1/27/2006 12:58:59 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can anybody tell me  how 
you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2?

For that you don't  need much help - just divide by 3!  (well, it's pretty 
close!)  Good  Lift!  

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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Dan Kitching

Hi Phil,

Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm^2 to lb/ft^2.
Since kg/cm^2 is g/m^2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft^2

I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple 
of other things for electric fliers and wing loading.


   Dan


Phil Barnes wrote:

That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me 
how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use 
the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with 
no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


Phil


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread James V. Bacus
I do, but you guys appear to have answered Richard's question faster than 
the opportunity I had to.



At 11:21 AM 1/27/2006, John Erickson wrote:

I've got something called a Widget that comes with OS X that does all kinds
of conversions, including square meter to square foot.  I think your buddy
Jim Bacus must have it on his computer...

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA


 From: Dan Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:19 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: soaring@airage.com
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please

 Hi Richard,

 I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can
 convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't
 need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL...

 www.dankitching.com/convert.exe

   Dan


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
 36.7 grams/ dm square.

 Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i
 want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .

 Thanks in advance, Richard

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[RCSE] Falcon 880 for sale

2006-01-27 Thread dneelands
Complete kit with plans.  Minor work started.
200$ OBO + shipping.
Please respond off list. Pictures available.
Thanks,
Dan Neelands

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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Jeff Steifel
Phil, use area to get the area conversion... centimeters2 to inches or 
foot 2

that give you area in our system.
81.7 dm2 = 8170cm2 = 8.79ft2
Then convert the wing loading using mass.
36.7 G = 1.29 or 1.3 oz
Now to convert the 1.3 from dm to foot squared
use convert to convert area 100 centimeters 2 = 0.107 foot 2
to get 1 sqft you would multiply by 10
so the 1.3 becomes 1.3*10 =  13 oz/ft2 pretty damn high wing loading.

What I like about doing it seperate is that I now know what the area of 
the wing is in our system and what th



At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 
36.7 grams/ dm square.


Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i 
want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .


Thanks in advance, Richard


Phil Barnes wrote:



- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I really like this one:

http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/

That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me 
how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use 
the custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with 
no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


Phil

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[RCSE] Paging Jeff Nibler

2006-01-27 Thread George Voss
Title: Paging Jeff Nibler






Jeff, please contact me with your mailing address. gv 




Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread George Gillburg
Convert.exe is a wonderful application that I use myself fairly
frequently.  That said, unles its changed recently, it doesn't do the
conversion in question.   Rule of thumb, to convert gm/dm squared to oz/ft
squared, just divide by 3.  You'll be close enough for most
purposes. Hi Richard,   I've put
a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can 
convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't
 need to actually install it. You can download it at the
following URL...   www.dankitching.com/convert.exe   Dan   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   At soaringusa.com,
the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and  36.7
grams/ dm square.   Can someone tell me what
that would be in square feet . Eventually i  want to figure
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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Jon Stone
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Can anybody tell me how 
 you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the 
 custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no 
 instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


divide g/dm2 by 3.05 to get oz/ ft2

Simply remembering to divide by 3 will get you within 2%.

Jon

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RE: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread John Diniz
Here is what I use for conversion of just about anything.

http://www.convert-me.com/en/

JD

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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:45 PM
To: Phil Barnes; Soaring List
Subject: Re: [RCSE] convert this please


- Original Message - 
From: Phil Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Can anybody tell me how 
 you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use the 
 custom feature but clicking on custom gets a blank window with no 
 instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


divide g/dm2 by 3.05 to get oz/ ft2

Simply remembering to divide by 3 will get you within 2%.

Jon

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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7044

2006-01-27 Thread Jeff Thompson

Convert it yourself, easily.  http://www.onlineconversion.com/

Jeff



Soaring wrote:


SoaringFri, 27 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7044

In this issue:

   convert this please


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 1/27/2006 2:14:34 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Phil, use area to get the  area conversion... centimeters2 to inches or 
foot 2
that give you area in  our system.
81.7 dm2 = 8170cm2 = 8.79ft2
Then convert the wing loading  using mass.
36.7 G = 1.29 or 1.3 oz
Now to convert the 1.3 from dm to foot  squared
use convert to convert area 100 centimeters 2 = 0.107 foot 2
to  get 1 sqft you would multiply by 10
so the 1.3 becomes 1.3*10 =  13  oz/ft2 pretty damn high wing loading.

What I like about doing it seperate  is that I now know what the area of 
the wing is in our system and what  th


And all the rest have peanut butter, except for Grandmother and  she drives a 
Cadillac!
Good Lift!  

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[RCSE] Reslling Space Pro from Daryl.

2006-01-27 Thread TDL
I got this Space Pro a few months ago from DP.
I have not started putting it together yet need room in the house. Have a
new baby plus a few new planes.
$900 local pickup (Orange County, CA) or $975 shipped paypal. 
My wife would love for me to keep it, but I can't justify paying over a
million and a half for the size of home I need to store these things... :)
Home values are crazy here... 


I also have it listed on Rcgroups. 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470823#post4951712

Thanks!


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Re: [RCSE] getting started in RC soaring

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Laurel
The underlying point Steve is making is about specialization.  You  
may be a slow builder, but you can make money fast in your  
profession.  Despite all the modern conveniences - broadband  
communications, pervasive road networks, fast computers, etc., we  
have less free time now than ever before.  The pressures on our  
personal time were never greater.  It makes sense to create wealth in  
the most efficient way and write checks for everything else.   
Everyone has their own priorities for their free time and some may  
prefer to spend more time building than flying.



On Jan 27, 2006, at 5:56 AM, S Meyer wrote:
I think there are fewer builders and a lot of ARFs because there is  
a market for it.  It's just economics.  The best builders produce  
and sell kits or planes.  If the demand is not met more builders  
step in or you build one yourself.  It's just pure business.  Many  
don't hone their building skills because they are actively making  
money at their job/business so they can enjoy the little spare time  
they have.  Seems here in USA we are putting in more hours at work  
than our ancestors.


If everyone was a builder there would be no buyers, the builder  
would not get better because they could not afford to make a lot of  
planes.


I think the laws of commerce are working fine in the soaring  
community.



Steve


At 11:43 AM 1/26/2006, Phil Barnes wrote:

...
To answer John's question: I think it might be less than 10-20%  
scratch builders that enter the NATS. The way things are going, it  
won't be long before it will be hard to find guys who can even put  
together an ARF model. I don't know what to do about that other  
than being a resource for that type of information. Certainly the  
internet makes it easy for people to get the information needed to  
learn how to scratch  build.

...


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Phil Barnes
The question I meant to ask was how to use the little conversion program to 
do conversions that were not already on the menu. Someone was kind enough to 
respond off list so I'll repeat the information here;


Click on options at the top of the window, then click on preferences. 
Then click on custom. You type the conversion into that window and then 
when you click on custom on the regular menu you will see the custom 
conversions that you have typed in.


The conversions that you need for the question that Rich asked about are;

1 gram per decimeter squared = .327123 ounces per foot squared

1 decimeter squared = 15.50003 inches squared

I already knew how to do the conversions manually as evidenced by my earlier 
post reprinted below:


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
36.7 grams/ dm square.
Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet .


81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches.

36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot.


Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .


1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet.

12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces.

The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing
loading.

To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your
weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in ounces per
square foot.



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[RCSE] Re: New Spread Spectrum Radios

2006-01-27 Thread hilgert

'*Spektrum DX6 - Actual Field Results*'
(http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452817)


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[RCSE] 2m Extreme CG, Please

2006-01-27 Thread paulywood

I'm looking for a starting point of CG on the 2m Extreme. Any help would
be great.
Thanks, Pauly Hart.


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

2006-01-27 Thread Dan Kitching

Hi Phil,

Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm2 to lb/ft2.
Since kg/cm2 is g/m2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft2

I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple 
of other things for electric fliers and wing loading.


  Dan


Phil Barnes wrote:

The question I meant to ask was how to use the little conversion 
program to do conversions that were not already on the menu. Someone 
was kind enough to respond off list so I'll repeat the information here;


Click on options at the top of the window, then click on 
preferences. Then click on custom. You type the conversion into 
that window and then when you click on custom on the regular menu 
you will see the custom conversions that you have typed in.


The conversions that you need for the question that Rich asked about are;

1 gram per decimeter squared = .327123 ounces per foot squared

1 decimeter squared = 15.50003 inches squared

I already knew how to do the conversions manually as evidenced by my 
earlier post reprinted below:


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
36.7 grams/ dm square.
Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet .



81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches.

36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot.

Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up 
weights .



1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet.

12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces.

The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing
loading.

To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your
weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in 
ounces per

square foot.



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Re: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ???

2006-01-27 Thread Bill's Email



amapmfg2003 wrote:
I would like info on a plane called son of savage 
who made it 


Mark Rebeck

who sold it 


Mark Rebeck

it is 60 sloper full flying stab on lg vert fin reported to have E205 
airfoil .


It was very popular here in South OC, where Mark lives, in the early 
90's. It was famous at Kite Hill in Laguna Niguel. It went out of 
fashion as other better designs came along. They have been out of 
production for at least a decade. Mark is a car guy now. I think he is 
still in OC however.


I had a couple (since I only lived 5 minutes from Kite Hill back then) 
but never really liked it much.


 WEM

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Re: [RCSE] New Spread Spectrum Radios

2006-01-27 Thread James V. Bacus
With all this talk of the new Spread Spectrum radios I just bought one 
today.  Thanks guys for pushing me over the edge, more new technology for 
me to learn about and enjoy.



Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Re: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ???

2006-01-27 Thread davidhauch

this guy has SOS kits, but i think it was smaller, maybe he has two sizes,
not for sure, but i did bag wings for a 42''er.

Joe Manor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(951) 334-3918

here's a build thread; 
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290505


Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com

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From: amapmfg2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:22 PM
Subject: [RCSE] 1980 sloper Son Of Savage Info ???


I would like info on a plane called son of savage
who made it
who sold it
it is 60 sloper full flying stab on lg vert fin reported to have E205
airfoil .
If you have one fill me in or sell it to me Thanks George



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[RCSE] Ebay Airtronics radios few hours remain

2006-01-27 Thread j j
1 ATRCS/ Vision Transmitter w/ battery

2 Module Transmitters w/battery

6 Transmitter modules (channels 14,16,24,26,34, 35?
Not sure)

4 Receiver crystals (channels14,16,34,35)

1 Protective case for Transmitter

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6032012414rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1

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[RCSE] WTB Zenith x-tail or trade for Insanity

2006-01-27 Thread davidhauch



anyone have one of these they want to sell or work out
a trade on a new Insanity ?

Dave Hauchwww.git-r-built.com


[RCSE] Insurance Question

2006-01-27 Thread GRW
Has anyone really read the insurance policy from Westchester on the AMA site? According to the verbage there is a $250,000 Self Insured Retention. The verbage "Self Insured Retention" is a fancy way of saying "Deductible". I know I certainly couldn't afford a deductible this high and I realize some damage would or could be covered under my home owners policy but how protected are we? So does anyone know where in the 57 pages of the liability policy where it states something different? Thanks--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, Wa
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