[RCSE] World Soaring Masters and Jo G.
Gordy, any truth to the rumor that you have sold your Pikes so you can sponser Jo's trip, housing and all his required liquid refreshment ? If true, does that mean you will fly your new Super Ava ? I suppose that could also mean no sun in Muncie that weekend. Hi Dave! I have this weekend's Extreme F5J comp won before I get there, when you add up the rules, write them all down vertically and then read them sideways, it turns out there is a loop hole that will make my easily victorious. I just got into my motel room in MN and have started installing the speed 400 system from my MPX Easy Glider into the Super AVA...as a pusher! After working on the calculations with mega math/science brains like Drela, Kiesling, Wurts, and Steve Neu...it turns out that the suction created by the 400's 7" blade on 7 cells, pulling air over the Super's giant wing will cause it to just go up vertically,,,and here's the good part, it will do it right over the landing spot, so no need to go flying around looking for stuff or getting a stiff neck looking up. Yep it will just launch, shoot over to the landing spot and wait for the clock to burn down. Its gonna be ugly :-) And yes I did sell my Superior, Giant and Organic...so all I have left is Giant, Superior, Perfect, Carbon Supra's and Super AVA. G'nite Gordy
[RCSE] Evolution XL's FS
Guys, Change in plans makes 2 Evolution XL's available. One is yellow top with blue tip swoosh and yellow with blue stripes on the bottom. The other is the same pattern but white tops with blue trim. Both are carbon D-Box wing layup. $1,300.00 plus shipping. You can get information on my website. Mark Miller www.isthmusmodels.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] World Soaring Masters and Jo G.
Gordy, any truth to the rumor that you have sold your Pikes so you can sponser Jo's trip, housing and all his required liquid refreshment ? If true, does that mean you will fly your new Super Ava ? I suppose that could also mean no sun in Muncie that weekend. Comments Gordy. Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "Thinking about the World Chompionships of Soaring Masters"
Today I hit airline limbo when I got to Louisville Airport to catch a short hop thru Chicago to Minne. After scrambling to get my F5J Sp400 Pulsar 2005 and my Pike Perfect loaded into my Sportube for battle this coming weekend in Munciethe steak I had on the BBQ was done to perfection. butI realized that I had less than an hour to get to the airport and ON the planeyipes. So the steak went into the refrig, and the Catahoulas will be eating big tonite...well that's what I was thinking then. The steak part came true, and I got the planes packed carefully too, and I made it to the gate on timeto find out the flight was delayed because of back ups in Chicago...likely Bacus his one of twenty Icons circling up high slowing down flights. So now instead of landing in MN at 6pm, now it will be closer to midnite. And instead of trucking my way back toward Louisville via a Kenosha beach and Arlington Park Race Track, I may be heading directly south to Kansas City for some demonstrations on some golf courses under construction. Damn the gods of change :-) In any case my first carbon Supra #666 is booking its own way in a Sportube via Fedex toward Louisvilleyup it has some Volz blue on it and in it tooso that's a good thing I think. Just got a call from one of the Catahoulas, thanking me for the steak, well it was more like bark,bark, bark, woof -- but you have to give them some poetic license for being able to dial the phone. Tomorrow my entry form will be over filling Jim McCarthy's mail box(I stuffed the envelope with bubble wrap so everyone else's forms would be pushed out of the box) Officially the first to arrive...proudly marked with LSF 4 (likely I'll do my 8 hour along side Chuck someday ;-) On the topic of what its called, personally I think it should be called a Soaring event... I hear that Picolario is swamped with tune ups from all the Euro's planning on attending :-) Weather is iffy at best for every event this weekend in the Midwest. Eastern Iowa has stormy weather master Rich Burnowski and likely his trusty side kick Carl. Louisville has the Derby this weekend, and the soaring club has an after Derby F5J Sp400 event. Oops they're calling me to the winch... Gordy
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Mike, I'm hurt that I wasn't considered as a friend. Um. Never mind! Darwin - Original Message - From: "John Diniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Dude! I'm offended! You've already bought my friendship with the cigars and cocktails "After" the flying at Phoenix. 8^) -Original Message- From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:17 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Dudes, sure hope you saw my tongue-in-cheek grin when I was responding. DP was cracking me up, and apparently was being a pain in others asses just like he said Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know the world is invited. If I win, I will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the world. Just because the whole world doesn't attend doesn't mean they weren't invited :-D Did ya hear that Malvey? I will be telling you, then I will have to find or rent another friend... I think Daryl will be disowning me as a friend now ;-) Lets go soaring world brethren, no whining, only flying aroung for 12 minutes and spearing the turf like there is no next round...:-) See you and the rest of the World in Muncie in September. Mike At 12:45 PM 5/1/2006, John Diniz wrote: Jeeeze guy's If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside of the small rc soaring community. John Diniz -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM To: Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Daryl Perkins wrote: > Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring at AMA this weekend
Everyone is welcome to come to Muncie this weekend.MIST club is sponsoring a HLG/f5eXtreme contest on saturday followed by a 2meter/ Unlimited man on man battle with L.O.F.T. on Sunday. Pilots meeting at 9:30 both days. f5eXtreme rules are:X5J EXTREME 2006 X5J eXtreme Rules: 1. Any electric sailplane can be entered, to fly the following: three 10-minute flight windows. One point is awarded for each second of flight time, powered or non-powered. One point is deducted for each second over the 10minute-flight window. A flight begins upon the powered release of the electric sailplane and ends on the contact with any stationary surface. Maximum points possible 600. All fractional seconds are rounded to the closest second. 2. The total accumulated motor run time is unlimited but subtracted from the flight time. Example, 600 flight pts - 19 calculated motor run pts = 581 total round pts. Calculated motor run time will be rounded to the closest 1/10th of a second. 3. Landing points to be measured from the center of the landing circle, to the closest part of the plane. 0-1m 30pts <1-2m 27pts <2-3m 24pts <3-4rm 21pts <4-5m 18pts <5-6m 15pts <6-7m 12pts <7-8m 09pts <8-9m 06pts <9-10m 03pts <10m 00pts 4. Motor handicap: brushless 95%, brushed Cobalt 75%, Ferrite 45%, and Speed400 30%. Actual motor run rounded to the closest second. Then multiplied by the motor percentage. Round this calculated value to the closest 1/10th of a second. 5. Any type of battery cell is legal. 6. Man on Man competition. Not Seeded. 7. The pilot may use unlimited motor runs, however, upon the second start of the motor he may not count his landing points. (Contest directors choice for applying this rule.) The following are scoring guide lines: A. Timers still need two stopwatches. One for the flight window of 10minutes and a second for total accumulated motor run. B. Flight time - round to closest second C. Motor run - round to closest second D. Calculated motor run - round to closest 1/10th of a second RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: "Master B of Soaring Registration,Mine is PM'd 12:01, You?" The RULES
I just sent mine next day airand got a good night's sleep. Now if my time machine was working, I would have just Dr. Danny Williams D.C. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride! " ---1146493267 Gordy, I believe postmark time is not the bottom line, when it gets to McCarthy is the bottomn line. Check me out on this. Hi Dave, If you check sub paragraph 1.4, on page 9 of the rules posted on the Masters website, you see in very fine print that all entries received on the same day will be sorted in this order "those entries with time stamps will be sorted according to the time stamps, and RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships + NATS
Barry, Although I am number 11 on that intrepid list of unlimited pilots, I received a postcard from the AMA today asking if I forgot to send in my 2006 Nats entry form. What's going on? Thanks, Jim At 05:17 PM 5/1/2006, Barry Andersen wrote: The "World" is also invited to the LSF NATS in Muncie in July. To those of you, like me, that beat a path to the post office today to get that May 1 postmark for the soaring masters, remember that you'll need a June 1 postmark, or earlier, to enter this years LSF Soaring NATS, July 21 through July 28 To date, 61 intrepid unlimited pilots have signed up for this years NATS. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
And what happens if an undocumented immigrant wins? They are truly representing the world. :-) Steve At 02:45 PM 5/1/2006, John Diniz wrote: Jeeeze guy's If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside of the small rc soaring community. John Diniz -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM To: Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Daryl Perkins wrote: > Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: World Soaring Masters Registration Today!
Excellent, we really enjoyed your company at Nats last year! At 02:47 PM 5/1/2006, Jo Grini wrote: I WILL BE THERE! So will also other guys from Europe I hear! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships + NATS
The "World" is also invited to the LSF NATS in Muncie in July. To those of you, like me, that beat a path to the post office today to get that May 1 postmark for the soaring masters, remember that you'll need a June 1 postmark, or earlier, to enter this years LSF Soaring NATS, July 21 through July 28 To date, 61 intrepid unlimited pilots have signed up for this years NATS. 150 for the Masters of Soaring World Championship?? We can hope. You can check your NATS entry, and that of your soaring buddies at; http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Register.html If you received a post card from AMA about not registering, check the above website for your registration. LSF president Tom Kallevang assures me that all is well with AMA. Full information about the NATS can be found at: http:// www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Nats2006.html Scale and XC please check all the way across the registration for those entries. Be reminded that frequencies are restricted to a limited number of channels with one pilot per channel. A great contest, at a great flying site. Man on man flying, new equipment, new friends and old. Not to be missed. Please sign up now Barry Andersen 2006 NATS registrar RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
No worries. 8^) -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:02 PM To: John Diniz; RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Sorry John, I have too many park flyer friends that would get a real chuckle out of you response. :>) John P.S. and don't say that they don't enjoy thermal flying. They do, but may not understand it the same way as you do. -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:22 PM To: John; RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... "Does anyone think that publicizing this contest "outside of RC soaring" will bring any good to RC soaring? Lets show the world that it takes $2000.00 worth of planes (Most will have a backup) and another $1000.00 of radio equipment to have fun in RC soaring. That should really help recruit new blood." Uhh? Yes. Fact: Compared to just about every other RC discipline $2000-$3000 is not a large cash outlay to compete. I do know this. JD -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:10 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... "The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general" John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Sorry John, I have too many park flyer friends that would get a real chuckle out of you response. :>) John P.S. and don't say that they don't enjoy thermal flying. They do, but may not understand it the same way as you do. -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:22 PM To: John; RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... "Does anyone think that publicizing this contest "outside of RC soaring" will bring any good to RC soaring? Lets show the world that it takes $2000.00 worth of planes (Most will have a backup) and another $1000.00 of radio equipment to have fun in RC soaring. That should really help recruit new blood." Uhh? Yes. Fact: Compared to just about every other RC discipline $2000-$3000 is not a large cash outlay to compete. I do know this. JD -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:10 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... "The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general" John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Mike Smith wrote: Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know the world is invited. If I win, I will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the world. All time, best movie line ever written. Zorro, The Gay Blade (George Hamilton) Zorro and Don Esteban are in a sword fight, dueling away around a large room, jumping on tables, furniture, etc. Don Esteban looks to be getting the better of Zorro. He proclaims: Give Up. Do not be a fool, my friend. Zorro: I would have to be more than a fool to be your friend. I would have to be Es-Stupid Too!! The Duel Continues and Zorro prevails. Catch my drift?? :~} RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Joe Albridge of Wapakoneta
Joe. . .some of your line (2) of your order is chopped off. Please clarify if it was meant to read "Genie LT/S" . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Dude! I'm offended! You've already bought my friendship with the cigars and cocktails "After" the flying at Phoenix. 8^) -Original Message- From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:17 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Dudes, sure hope you saw my tongue-in-cheek grin when I was responding. DP was cracking me up, and apparently was being a pain in others asses just like he said Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know the world is invited. If I win, I will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the world. Just because the whole world doesn't attend doesn't mean they weren't invited :-D Did ya hear that Malvey? I will be telling you, then I will have to find or rent another friend... I think Daryl will be disowning me as a friend now ;-) Lets go soaring world brethren, no whining, only flying aroung for 12 minutes and spearing the turf like there is no next round...:-) See you and the rest of the World in Muncie in September. Mike At 12:45 PM 5/1/2006, John Diniz wrote: >Jeeeze guy's > >If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you >care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well >organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. > >The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to >stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the >word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case >you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone >know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside >of the small rc soaring community. > >John Diniz > >-Original Message- >From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM >To: Daryl Perkins >Cc: soaring@airage.com >Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the >best... > > >Daryl Perkins wrote: > > Is it just me? > >I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. >Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. >It should require some sort of qualifying. > >Z > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send >"subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME >turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL >are generally NOT in text format >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send >"subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME >turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL >are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
"Does anyone think that publicizing this contest "outside of RC soaring" will bring any good to RC soaring? Lets show the world that it takes $2000.00 worth of planes (Most will have a backup) and another $1000.00 of radio equipment to have fun in RC soaring. That should really help recruit new blood." Uhh? Yes. Fact: Compared to just about every other RC discipline $2000-$3000 is not a large cash outlay to compete. I do know this. JD -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:10 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... "The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general" John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Dudes, sure hope you saw my tongue-in-cheek grin when I was responding. DP was cracking me up, and apparently was being a pain in others asses just like he said Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know the world is invited. If I win, I will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the world. Just because the whole world doesn't attend doesn't mean they weren't invited :-D Did ya hear that Malvey? I will be telling you, then I will have to find or rent another friend... I think Daryl will be disowning me as a friend now ;-) Lets go soaring world brethren, no whining, only flying aroung for 12 minutes and spearing the turf like there is no next round...:-) See you and the rest of the World in Muncie in September. Mike At 12:45 PM 5/1/2006, John Diniz wrote: Jeeeze guy's If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside of the small rc soaring community. John Diniz -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM To: Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Daryl Perkins wrote: > Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Oops - "World"
Sorry I brought it up guys... my issue isn't with the contest itself... just the name... and I do understand the reasoning behind it... I applaud the efforts of Horizon and JR for putting this on. This contest has already received more hype than any WC I've attended... sorry... but there's something wrong with that... ;-) Everybody breathe... good air in bad air out... D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF World Soaring Masters
Since the contest is restricted to LSF member and LSF is a world wide organization, I see no problem in calling it a World Soaring Masters contest. LSF has also had a number of Soaring Masters contests in the past. Chuck Anderson LSF 583 Level IV (ain't gonna stand on no slope for 8 hours) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
"The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general" Does anyone think that publicizing this contest "outside of RC soaring" will bring any good to RC soaring? Lets show the world that it takes $2000.00 worth of planes (Most will have a backup) and another $1000.00 of radio equipment to have fun in RC soaring. That should really help recruit new blood. John -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:45 PM To: David Zucker; Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Jeeeze guy's If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside of the small rc soaring community. John Diniz -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM To: Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Daryl Perkins wrote: > Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Hear Hear Daryl! It is also presumptuous not to qualify it as a MOM UNL TD "contest" title that it is not representative of all "model" soaring. John -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:58 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled to call their contests, or games, or races... the "World Championships?" We have the World Series, where we crown the winners the "World Champion." We have the Superbowl... once again crowning the winners the "World Champions." Is there any other country represented 1 other at least I think Canada is represented by one or two teams in baseball... there's a sports powerhouse ... ;-) JK Sorry Arend... But... "World Soaring Masters?" Let's not minimize the efforts and the accomplishments of those individuals who qualify to attend US team selects, scratch and claw to make the top 3, then travel around the world representing the United States of America. They compete against the top fliers of 20-25 other countries, who have undergone the same type of effort and hardships just for the opportunity to compete in a truly "World" event. This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled "The US Open of Soaring"... since there's not much qualifying required to attend... Sorry... off my soapbox... but this has been a pet peave of mine for quite some time... probably ever since I attended my first World Championships... held in Holland... against 23 (I think) other countries... Oh... but the most important part of my email... TK... I lost my voucher... can you forward another one please??? Thx, D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: World Soaring Masters Registration Today!
I WILL BE THERE! So will also other guys from Europe I hear! Today I got a good message from Barry Kennedy that he is there for me and will help me out on this event. I think we will stay Roberts Radisson according to Barry. And "offcourse" my friend Gordy is that real friend that he showed last year. He will be there helping me carry those huge containers of planes... I think he will train those dogs into the Iditarot race for Muncie instead of Alaska. Even Marc Gellart have offered some help. He was a nice spotter last time so who knows... I have now ordered "non refundable" tickets! So no matter what the stamp says I will be there on the field atleast! Looking forward to meet all my friends and eat a couple rib racks each day (my weight went down last time so Gordy's diet works..) Hilsen (Regards) Jojo Jo Grini Sagbråtenfeltet 2910 Aurdal Norway tlf: +47 61361606 / mob: +47 90898709 NEW: www.jojoen.no RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Two Day Hand Launch Invitation
Invitation: On May 20-21, the Albuquerque Soaring Association will host the two day hand launch glider contest "Blue Skies Over New Mexico". There will be 10 rounds plus 3 fly-off rounds, similar to IHLGF. All are invited to join us, see the web site, link below. Lunches and Saturday dinner will be served at the field. We'll also have a raffle with three competition-class DLG gliders as prizes. All participants are automatically entered with one ticket, and anyone, participant or not can purchase additional tickets for the drawing. So all you hand launch fans, come on out and enjoy a great time with the ASA. :D Aradhana Singh Khalsa Blue Skies Over New Mexico Albuquerque Soaring Association http://www.soarabq.org/blueskies/home.shtml Phone: (505) 747-0990[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Jeeeze guy's If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it. The LSF and the "World Soaring Masters" board is just trying to stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the word "world" twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside of the small rc soaring community. John Diniz -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM To: Daryl Perkins Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Daryl Perkins wrote: > Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Daryl Perkins wrote: Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] A question to the Soaring Championship Organizers
For those of us not fortunate (???) enough to live within a reasonable distance of Muncie, when will entry confirmation go out? Travel arrangements are already tough to make, and I don't plan to make mine until I know I'm in. Are you making any arrangements with the local hotels for good rates such as the NATS does? Thanks. Jim Thomas
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
I guess you are assuming an American will win this event... ;-) P.S. From some of the people I hear that are attending, that might not be the case. At 11:57 AM 5/1/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote: This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled "The US Open of Soaring"... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
D, I agree. But The World Soaring Masters was not meant to be a World "Championship". The use of "World" in the name is meant to make it an invitation to the world's soaring pilots to come and compete. We do have many pilots from around the world that will be coming to compete against everyone. Making a world championship team is as you know probably the most challenging thing one could ever hope to do. If I lived in one of those 20+ countries that competes for world titles I would never get the chance to compete against the likes of you, JW, LJ, Mr. Kiesling, Mr. Smith and all the other guy's here in the US. But I happen to be in the US and have learned so much from watching/talking to you guy's that it has made me a MUCH better pilot then just a year ago. This is a chance for them to come and compete with you guys and see where their skills are at. Also a chance for those of us in the US to compete against some of the best International pilots around. Look at what Jojo did at the Nat's last year. Not bad for a guy from Norway! Jim McCarthy will have to confirm, but I think Phillip Kolb and many of the other top F3J pilots from Europe will be coming to compete at the Soaring Masters, so this will be a "World" event. Just my thoughts on the subject. BTW, Goldsmith came up with the name - blame the Aussie!!! 8^) -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:58 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best... Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled to call their contests, or games, or races... the "World Championships?" We have the World Series, where we crown the winners the "World Champion." We have the Superbowl... once again crowning the winners the "World Champions." Is there any other country represented 1 other at least I think Canada is represented by one or two teams in baseball... there's a sports powerhouse ... ;-) JK Sorry Arend... But... "World Soaring Masters?" Let's not minimize the efforts and the accomplishments of those individuals who qualify to attend US team selects, scratch and claw to make the top 3, then travel around the world representing the United States of America. They compete against the top fliers of 20-25 other countries, who have undergone the same type of effort and hardships just for the opportunity to compete in a truly "World" event. This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled "The US Open of Soaring".. since there's not much qualifying required to attend... Sorry... off my soapbox... but this has been a pet peave of mine for quite some time... probably ever since I attended my first World Championships... held in Holland... against 23 (I think) other countries... Oh... but the most important part of my email... TK... I lost my voucher... can you forward another one please??? Thx, D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
The baseball World Series Championship Games we enjoy at the end of the season never was intended to be a 'best of the world'. It was originally a series of baseball games to determine the best in a series - a series that was sponsored bythe World Newspaper! Hence the name. Blue skies, Capn Crunchie Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Its not just you L'ing OL in Carlsbad... M At 09:57 AM 5/1/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote: Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled to call their contests, or games, or races... the "World Championships?" We have the World Series, where we crown the winners the "World Champion." We have the Superbowl... once again crowning the winners the "World Champions." Is there any other country represented 1 other at least I think Canada is represented by one or two teams in baseball... there's a sports powerhouse ... ;-) JK Sorry Arend... But... "World Soaring Masters?" Let's not minimize the efforts and the accomplishments of those individuals who qualify to attend US team selects, scratch and claw to make the top 3, then travel around the world representing the United States of America. They compete against the top fliers of 20-25 other countries, who have undergone the same type of effort and hardships just for the opportunity to compete in a truly "World" event. This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled "The US Open of Soaring"... since there's not much qualifying required to attend... Sorry... off my soapbox... but this has been a pet peave of mine for quite some time... probably ever since I attended my first World Championships... held in Holland... against 23 (I think) other countries... Oh... but the most important part of my email... TK... I lost my voucher... can you forward another one please??? Thx, D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "World" Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled to call their contests, or games, or races... the "World Championships?" We have the World Series, where we crown the winners the "World Champion." We have the Superbowl... once again crowning the winners the "World Champions." Is there any other country represented 1 other at least I think Canada is represented by one or two teams in baseball... there's a sports powerhouse ... ;-) JK Sorry Arend... But... "World Soaring Masters?" Let's not minimize the efforts and the accomplishments of those individuals who qualify to attend US team selects, scratch and claw to make the top 3, then travel around the world representing the United States of America. They compete against the top fliers of 20-25 other countries, who have undergone the same type of effort and hardships just for the opportunity to compete in a truly "World" event. This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled "The US Open of Soaring"... since there's not much qualifying required to attend... Sorry... off my soapbox... but this has been a pet peave of mine for quite some time... probably ever since I attended my first World Championships... held in Holland... against 23 (I think) other countries... Oh... but the most important part of my email... TK... I lost my voucher... can you forward another one please??? Thx, D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] World Soaring Masters Registration Today!
The check is in the mail... ;-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "Master B of Soaring Registration,Mine is PM'd 12:01, You?" The RULES
Gordy, I believe postmark time is not the bottom line, when it gets to McCarthy is the bottomn line. Check me out on this. Hi Dave, If you check sub paragraph 1.4, on page 9 of the rules posted on the Masters website, you see in very fine print that all entries received on the same day will be sorted in this order "those entries with time stamps will be sorted according to the time stamps, and those with out will be sorted in the order the postman stacked them in Jim's mail box...priority beginning with those on the bottom of the stack...in the event that Jim has had too many beers and drops the pile, the date stamped envelops will still have priority, but the non-date stamped pile will be put into a giant tumbler, spun for exactly 11 minutes and the drum stopped with the opening exactly at the 10o'clock position. The envelopes will be drawn by a newbile and received in the order drawn... etc." So you see they really thought this out...GLAD I thought to get mine time stamped! And by the way,,, I was just trying to give everyone some hope of beating me to the timebut mine is actually time stamped 12:00am. :-) See you there! Gordy
Re: [RCSE] "Master B of Soaring Registration,Mine is PM'd 12:01, You?"
Gordy, I believe postmark time is not the bottom line, when it gets to McCarthy is the bottomn line. Check me out on this. Regards, Dave Corven. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Anyone beat my postmark time? > Gordy --- Begin Message --- Anyone beat my postmark time? Gordy --- End Message ---
[RCSE] WNY Soaring Contest
Thanks to Tom Koszuta and all of the Western New York Soaring and Electric Flyers for inviting Reece and I to attend their contest yesterday. It's the first time I've flown UNL in about 18 months and boy does it show! I had a great day, met a lot of good people and will definitely be back for more contests this season. Special thanks to Reece for all his patience & help, talking me through some tough times, and reminding me to "breathe" ! The contest was a very relaxed affair, with 10 pilots in attendance. We had 1 open winch and a 40 minute window for each of the 5 rounds. The field is "interesting" as there a quite a few thermal generators surrounding the field, and along with thermal generators comes sink holes! Landings were a big problem for me, as usual, although I did get 1 of my LSF II landings. Unfortunately my 1 off-field landing cost me 2nd place and I finished in 6th. I had to jump trees twice...once I was unlucky (and almost took out Reece's Artemis which was on the ground underneath the tree) but the other time the Sapphire looked like a jack-in-the-box popping up over the trees not once but twice. I did have the tallest flight of the day and if it hadn't been for Reece's eyes, I don't think that plane would have come home. I had some good flights, really poor landings, but my equipment came away still able to fly, and I had fun and came away with a lot more knowledge. Good time, good experience, good people...What more could I ask for? -Sheldon-