[RCSE] Multiplex Cockpit
Anyone on the exchange using the Multiplex Cockpit who can give me pros and cons for the radio. Thanks EDG Pittsburgh
Re: [RCSE] Multiplex Cockpit
The earlier Cockpits had crap batteries. They would die early and with almost no warning. They may have improved them, but I would throw the stock battery away and get another one. Also, in earlier Cockpits, they would suddenly scramble themselves. Your plane would crash and you would look down and see garbage on the screen. On mine, I think the chip wasn't grounded right. They may have fixed this problem. Both of these problems caused crashes with several people that I flew with and I had two narrow escapes myself. Hopefully people with newer Cockpits have not had these problems. This was several years ago. My Cockpit has not caused any more problems since I sent it in to Ernie to be repaired and I replaced the stock battery. Randy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Kits for Sale
Prices include Priority Mail shipping to lower 48 states.Larry Jolly Flinger HLG $55Davey Systems Corp. Ariel HLG $35Bridi Flipper HLG $30MM EPP F-86 sloper $50Skybench Sunbird HLG $50Contact Tom Gressman at 303-979-8073
Re: [RCSE] Multiplex Cockpit
At 07:30 AM 6/3/2006, you wrote: Anyone on the exchange using the Multiplex Cockpit who can give me pros and cons for the radio. Thanks EDG Pittsburgh I have owned two and consider the Cockpit to be the best two-stick transmitter I have ever owned. It's only shortcoming was the lack of a free mixer and a 600 mah battery. I really like the feel and balance and would still be using it if it had even one free mix for crow. All the other fancy stuff I could live without. I bought my first Cockpit in 2001 and promptly sold all my other transmitters except for one for my full house sailplane. I placed my order for an Evo the day it was announced. My only disappointment with the Evo is that it is so much bigger and heavier than the Cockpit. I now have two Evos and a Cockpit for my RES sailplanes. My backup Cockpit was sold to a fellow club member who is still using it. He liked it so much that he bought another for a backup. The Cockpit was overpriced when new but good used ones can be had at a very reasonable price and Ernie is available for service. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: more about training newbies on the multiplex easy glider
I got to see one of these perform today at the JR aerotow in Monticello Illinois, and this is a VERY capable and well-performing plane in 4-servo mode! It also looked exceptionally SHARP in it's red and white paint job. I would now have zero problem recommending it for an inexpensive trainer ship that can grow with the student. /Mark
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744
Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] New in Box, Easy Glider...with MPX speed control
Hi guys, I got two of these last year for a F5J Sp400 competition and club trainer. Easy to put together and fly great (specially on 8 cells). I still have the the one I built in perfect condition and will keep it a long time but don't need the spare kit. I bought the Speed control that was recommended for them and I'll throw it in for $20(chek theprice that's about half)on top of the $89 Kit price. Can ship Monday Shipping $10. Wait and wail :-) You might want to call me to claim it, I won't be near the computer much today. Gordy Stahl9303 LeBeau CtLouisville Ky 40299502 727 9595 cell
[RCSE] incidence
Some time ago I was assembling a new unlimited ship and queried this group as to what incidence was correct. I got lot's of answers from very knowledgeable people (you might want to check the archives). The suggestions ranged from 0 degrees to 2.5 degrees. The most cogent response was from a gentleman in Germany who suggested 1.75 degrees which I used and which gave me very satisfactory results. I now realize that virtually any setting within this range will work fine. One very practical suggestion was to use just a little bit. Robert Samuels ... St. Louis From: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:15:47 -0400 Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Multiplex Cockpit
I use a Cockpit for my HLG/DLG and my RES planes. It is nice and compact and has enough proframability to get the job done on these planes. I had Ernie install a shift select switch and a launch preset switch that can preset launch settings for rudder and elevator. Adiustment is by a small screw driver through two small holes in the case. Neat Setup. Mark Miller --- Edwin Lightcap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone on the exchange using the Multiplex Cockpit who can give me pros and cons for the radio. Thanks EDG Pittsburgh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744
Ed, Your notion to set the stab 1.5 degrees negative to the wing is a good starting point - particularly if you are an intermediate pilot with a more stable CG. You could also set it at 0 degrees and then fly the plane while adjusting your elevator trim for a slow pull out from a speed run. After you have flight tested that trim point you can shim the stab to take any up or down deflection out of the elevator. (You can do the same thing with a 1.5 degree setting but it may be a bit more difficult to feel the right trim point.) This should give you a good flying plane. Hope this helps Rick At 05:15 PM 6/3/06, Ed Anderson wrote: Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7745
Thanks to everyone who sent me e-mail to help me decide what to do with my Legend wing incidence. I had two Legend owners tell me that their incidence seems to be 0, so I am going to reduce mine to somewhere between 0 and 1/2 degree and fly it tomorrow. The input I received from others seems to reinforce the idea that somewhere between 0 and 1.5 looks reasonable. Thanks so much to everyone! Best Regards, Ed Anderson LISF Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:15:47 -0400 From: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Soaring V1 #7744 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744
Ed, You have two ways to determine correct decalage (difference between wing and stab incidence). The first is to trim the plane for level flight at low cruising speed. If the elevator is up you need to reduce wing incidence and if its down you need to increase it. The other method is to observe whether the plane looks right in level flight at thermaling speeds. If it flies tail low you increase wing incidence, and of you can, stab incidence. If it flies tail high you decrease wing and stab incidence. With the Legend you can't get both right because the stab is fixed. Incidence is actually not that important as long as it isn't way off. See you in three weeks! Anker At 05:15 PM 6/3/2006, Ed Anderson wrote: Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Observations from the 2006 JR Aerotow
Well, I paid a brief visit to the third JR Aerotow today and here are some observations: - I know the connotation, Fun Fly, is currently in bad repute but I've been to all three of JR's Aerotow events and must say that the fun while flying seems to maximized at this event. Smiles all over the place. - For those concerned, Butch (that's RCButch) is doing quite well in spite of his advanced years. - Bernie Coleman complained that the combined overcast created by Jim Porter's 6 meter Orlik and Doug Barry's 6 meter Minimoa was ruining the lift for everyone else. Here's two sailplanes that really look great in the sky. Seeing them together was a real piece of eye candy. - Nice to see Jim Frickey with a 6 meter Ventus. He notched an hour flight on Friday. - The most creative use of a large sailplane fuselage had to be the ice bucket at the Castle Creations tent. I hope someone posts a picture. - Missing the action so far were Cap'n Jack and the SOAR guys. - As I stated earlier there were lots of smiles around but the biggest smile I saw belonged to the owner of the Multiplex Easy Glider that was painted and trimmed to sort of resemble a scale sailplane if one squints a bit. With some somewhat aerobatic help from John Berlin who was handling the sticks on the early part of the tow, the Easy Glider owner really was enjoying the benefits of a high tow and good air. His grin was as big if not bigger than those of the owners of the big bucks ships. Way cool!! Nice work JR and all involved - keep up the good work - see you next year! If you've never been, there's still time to drop in to Monticello, Illinois and take a look tomorrow. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744
Some years ago, I asked the same question and the best answer I got was 1/2 the camber. If you think about it, it kind of makes sense. A thick flat bottomed foil tends to be a one speed floater while a thin symmetrical one is seen on slope rockets. It therefore falls out that incidence (foil/speed range) is dependent on the plane's usage. A Legend (TD task) has a need for several speeds but not an extreme range. I can't remember exactly but a Legend probably has something like a SD7037 foil. I would expect about a 3% camber so an incidence of 1.5 degrees would be indicated. A rule of thumb is only a starting point, test flying is the proof. Phil in Vancouver -Original Message- From: Ed Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 3, 2006 2:16 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7744 Looking for Advice on Wing Incidence. I am looking forward to flying in the June ESL event at LISF on Long Island. I hope to see some of you there. I have a old yellow and blue Airtronics Legend that I am trying to tune up. I picked up a wing incidence meter and am trying to set the wing/h-stab incidence. I don't have a recommended spec so I am trying to shoot for something reasonable. If I set the stab at 0 degrees on my GP incidence meter, the wing measures 1.5 degrees below the zero. I guess that would be 1.5 degrees positive relative to the stab, correct? Any recommendations on a good starting target? It used to be more but I added 1/32 in shims under the rear wing hold down to raise the back of the wing about 6 months ago and it seemed to fly better. So I bought the incidence meter and want to set it correctly. Unfortunately I have no idea if I am right on the money or way off. I have the build manual but there is no recommendation in the book. Would a 0 degree difference between the wing and the stab be a reasonable starting point? I am thinking that there should be some difference but I may have too much. I hope to be able to upgrade to a Mantis or similar by the end of the summer, but for now this is what I have to fly. Until then, I will chalk up the work I do on this plane as a learning experience. Any advice would be appreciated. Best Regards, Ed Anderson Long Island Silent Flyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Observations from the 2006 JR Aerotow
I made the run out yesterday, just finished posting some pics on RCGroups... First time at JR, have to say they know how to run an event. Only complaint is that it's not closer and more frequent. Like every other weekend g. Disappointed that I didn't get shots of the 40% ASW-28 in the Illini Hangar; that's about the most impressive ship I saw all day. If there were a book on that build, I'd buy it and keep it by my desk to remind myself why I got into scale. That's after shooting 2+ rolls of film: I still felt like I missed a dozen classic ships. Amazing lift on Friday, spent a good part of my first flight trying to bleed off altitude in a ship without spoilers - if anyone has any suggestions there, I'm wide open. Tried crow, but that seemed to build up speed quickly, maybe my compensation is off? High class problems, I think that's called. Jim's right - if you have time to make it out, worth it - with or without a plane. Bring a camera, tho, you will want to show what you saw. Thanks JR! Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Observations from the 2006 JR Aerotow
What a wonderful day out there, only sorry I had to leave early. There was a large scale early era Horten flying wing glider at the JR Aerotow. I never did see it take off, but there are now pics of it in unassembled state at the RCgroups.com web page along with pics of that pretty little EasyGlider foamie.
[RCSE] wiring Mantis
Have just wired my Mantis, and the tail servos work fine, but the wing servos twitch and/or vibrate. The flap servo seems to work fine but make extra noises, the others just vaguely move as commanded by the transmitter sticks but jump around a lot. I tried putting a capacitor between signal and ground near one of the wing servos, but it didn't make much difference. This has worked for me before. I've got the wires twisted to try to prevent interference. Rx is in nose with battery, then a cable runs to a DB9 which connects with one from the wing. The power wires are doubled up to cut resistance, and I've got double pins on most of the connections at the DB9 (except flap signal). Doubled up pins are connected with each other. Suggestions? Thanks, Lincoln Ross RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
