RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
'Cause you suck???!!! :-) Klaus K Weiss Airsports R.C. www.airsportsrc.com.au _ From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Who Cares ? Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane?
RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
Yes I do :-) hehe...
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Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane?
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
I rather enjoy seeing what ships the big dogs and competitors fly at important events. I know some folks could win with bricks and paper plates, but that is not what they chose to fly in the event. ;o) Brian - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Who Cares ? What's the big deal about knowing what plane is being flown? You give most top pilots a F'n Brick and they will get their 9:55 and a 100.. So your an average pilot and you think buying the latest greatest plane is going to put you in the top ten? I don't think so.. Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane? Skills Baby.. :-))) Craig... PS... Wearing my Team Kiwi Shirt all week... Go USA Juniors and Team Z :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sharon? Where are they in this list? Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list. Not a TD list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-) Gordy Milwaukee tonite. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1528 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:26 AM
[RCSE] The Top Pilots Are Sluts and Idiots?
Brian said it best, the top guys, heck every body reading this forum, will tend to chose the models to fly that they feel best compliments their skills, will give them the best chance at flying a perfect score. Just because the most talented guys 'can' do well with anything doesn't mean they are stupid...they chose the plane that compliments their flying and optimizes their chancesthe sharpest tool for them. To imply that JW or DP or any of our top pilots only fly what is given to them disrespects them on every level.? If they couldn't afford the hobby, they wouldn't be in it for long.? You know DP and you know JW...they aren't for sale...they chose the models they fly and pay for them. Gordy
[RCSE] f3J Worlds
Anyone see any USA reports? Website? Blog? AJ McGowan is smokin! Must be the Beaver hat that makes him so hot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....
From Jojo's blog http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/index.htm Thanks to the French team and the Norwegian team collecting data you can now see the complete list of models and transmitters. http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm Steve Meyer LSF IV Racine, WI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] f3J Worlds
Smokin' would be putting it mildly...He's more like one of those Calif wildfires up near my brother - WOW! I sure hope he's having as much fun flying as I am keeping tabs on what's going on over there... Good Lift and Good Luck to everyone attending the 2008 NATs...Sorry I won't be able to make it this year. Speaking of which...It sure would be great if somebody would step-up volunteer to play Head Turnaround Troll to take care of my Turnaround Trolls this year. See Mike Stump or Marc Gellart if you can help out, my withdrawal was kind of unexpected and they'll be a little short-handed at the far end. -Sheldon- 2008 Soaring Nationals Launch Matrix -Original Message- From: S Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:38 AM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] f3J Worlds Anyone see any USA reports? Website? Blog? AJ McGowan is smokin! Must be the Beaver hat that makes him so hot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
Craig, You've got to be kidding! David Craig Allen wrote: . Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? */ /*
Re: [RCSE] The Top Pilots Are Sluts and Idiots?
The top pilots get to fly all the nice planes and they can and do pick the one they like the most. With their skills why would we not want to know what they like? ---BeginMessage--- Brian said it best, the top guys, heck every body reading this forum, will tend to chose the models to fly that they feel best compliments their skills, will give them the best chance at flying a perfect score. Just because the most talented guys 'can' do well with anything doesn't mean they are stupid...they chose the plane that compliments their flying and optimizes their chancesthe sharpest tool for them. To imply that JW or DP or any of our top pilots only fly what is given to them disrespects them on every level. If they couldn't afford the hobby, they wouldn't be in it for long. You know DP and you know JW...they aren't for sale...they chose the models they fly and pay for them. Gordy Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! ---End Message---
[RCSE] About CDs collecting model information
The CD of a major event is busy enough before, during, and usually wiped out after the event. An extra responsibility like collecting model information is something the CD, usually a volunteer who does not fly the event, probably doesn't need. Ask yourself this question: just exactly what would I do with this information if I had it? Speaking from experience, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] About CDs collecting model information
Well I would enjoy reading it.. Speaking from experience. (grin) You ask.. Brian From: Jim Deck Ask yourself this question: just exactly what would I do with this information if I had it? Speaking from experience, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Vendors at NATS?
I'm trying to find out the names of any vendors that will be selling stuff at the upcoming NATS. The AMA store has some overstock of some soaring items and they are interested in having a soaring related vendor at the event help them out selling the items. Please contact me if you can help identify any sellers. There have been some shake-ups at AMA concerning retail items. You will no longer get a catalog before christmas! Thanks! Paul Naton president-Radio Carbon Art Producers of High Quality Silent Flight DVDs http://www.radiocarbonart.com Tel: 888-834-2261 Visa/Mastercard Accepted RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] About CDs collecting model information
I agree. If someone wants a list of what was flown, let them collect the information. The CD has enough to do. On July 12, I expect to CD the Coffee Airfoilers RES contest. This will be the 40th year that I have been the CD for at least one AMA sanctioned contest. I have been the CD for at least one sailplane contest every year since 1971 and even ran a quarter final and a semifinal contest in the 1976 F3B team selection program. I expect to retire as a CD after this years RES contest. Chuck Anderson At 11:19 AM 7/2/2008, you wrote: The CD of a major event is busy enough before, during, and usually wiped out after the event. An extra responsibility like collecting model information is something the CD, usually a volunteer who does not fly the event, probably doesn't need. Ask yourself this question: just exactly what would I do with this information if I had it? Speaking from experience, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] About CDs collecting model information
Original Message From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...An extra responsibility like collecting model information is something the CD, usually a volunteer who does not fly the event, probably doesn't need == At the Gateway Open we requested this info on the pilots' sign-up sheet. Alas, most left the space blank -- including Gordy. We'll do it again this year, so everybody will have another chance. If we get enough responses, I'll post the tally here. However, for this year's F3J WC all the info is available, as has been posted earlier, and I would agree with those who find it to be very interesting indeed.
[RCSE] Re: Looking for Todd Larson
- Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:26 AM Subject: Looking for Todd Larson Please ping me off line. Computer malfunction, lost ship to address. Skip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] CD's collecting info.
With all due respect. Tony did what he could. And how tough is it to have the entrants jot down the name of their ship when they sign in. ?? If they won't for some reason, then all others won't know what they flew. Most folks including Chuck want to brag on their ship. Especially when you have scratch built your own good flying design as Chuck has. And many of us want to hear about them. If you want stealth, that is all right with me too. CD'ing is a thankless job at times. . I started doing it in 1980, I have not been CD'ing the last few years, but this is sure no big deal as far as added work load is concerned. If I CD any more events y'all will have all the model info the entrants will give.. If your one of those who does not care for that info just scan right on over it. My 2 cents. Over and out on this one. ;o) Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11338
PING!!! Dan Tandberg, M.D. Professor Emeritus Department of Emergency Medicine UNM School of Medicine Ambulatory Care Center 4-West University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 ===contact numbers=== Internet mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage: http://www.nmia.com/~tandberg Department: 1-505-272-5062 BMSB-B65H: 1-505-272-8600 Fax 1-505-272-6503 Soaring Soaring@airage.com 06/24/08 4:03 PM SoaringTue, 24 Jun 2008Volume 1 : Number 11338 In this issue: Looking for Dr. Dan, can you ping me back -- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Flying High [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: exchange soaring@airage.com Subject: Looking for Dr. Dan, can you ping me back Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan, can you ping me back? Thanks in advance, Edgar The Soaring Junkie -- End of Soaring V1 #11338 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gordy -- maybe not.
Okay guys, the article is about some day when we are too weak and old to hump winches...fields are gone so no room to string a turn around...those of us who will still want to fly TD contests will have to launch our sailplanes some howthe last thing we will ever want to know about is what would be the best prop, the thought of calculating a correct power equation Wouldn't happen for a TD guy, our attention shifts day dreaming about pretty women or a new plane too quickly to have that kind of concentration. Really read the articleguys who love to didle with expensive motors, cool batteries and trick motor controls...can and should continue. I say let them believe that because their electric powered airplanes with big wings and the ability to glide down from thousands of foot of motor run...let them believe they are soaring...its fun for them. However Don tries to make the point that a guy who starts out with an electric powered airplane with big wings is a future TD pilot??? Here's a test to let him prove his point... have any one of his newbies run the motor up to about winch or high start height (400') then make a 5min thermal flightno turning the motor on..-you know- when he gets kind of low, -you know- for 'safety's' sake When the have a motor to turn on, they don't learn to thermal...which is fine, if they are happy 'flying' I say, let them eat er... batteries! :-) In the year 2424, if the only way we TD guys can launch is to put a motor in the nose of our models, God let it be just enough to get us up to normal winch height..three times...its not supposed to 'fly' our models, its only suppose to get them to the start of the game. :-) Don keep doing what you are doing...we have a few years before electric motors and props will replace high starts and winches. Gordy -- Gordysoar Gordysoar's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=12801 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883707 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gordy -- maybe not.
Gordysoar Wrote: Here's a test to let him prove his point... have any one of his newbies run the motor up to about winch or high start height (400') then make a 5min thermal flightno turning the motor on..-you know- when he gets kind of low, -you know- for 'safety's' sake When the have a motor to turn on, they don't learn to thermal...which is fine, if they are happy 'flying' I say, let them eat er... batteries! :-) On this, oh wise one, you are simply dead wrong. I have seen it happen. Gordysoar Wrote: In the year 2424, if the only way we TD guys can launch is to put a motor in the nose of our models, God let it be just enough to get us up to normal winch height..three times...its not supposed to 'fly' our models, its only suppose to get them to the start of the game. :-) Gordy On this, oh wise one, we agree. I have been playing around with an f5j ZLOG which has an altitude cutoff switch. There is still a debate about whether this, by itself, will totally solve the problem of evening the field with the flying arc welders, but, like you, I have no interest in an event which is driven by the amount of power you can cram into a glider -- I would be interested in simply reducing that to a dynomometer race. D.O. Darnell has suggested to me that we might reduce an altitude limited competition to a test of who could get down fastest from a predetermined altitude and hit a spot (pusher motor -- lawn dart noses :) ). All of the current formats ultimately place much more emphasis on optimizing the launch system than our current TD rules. Great if you like it. But. Happy Landings, Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883707 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: Altitude limiting device is a Z-log, I believe, and with that 500 ft is 500 ft. or whatever height has been selected and your time starts when the motor is shut off by the device. You timer is still using a visual connection to start the stopwatch just as it is with winch launching and when you land is now up to you, as it always is. Regards, Dave Corven. Dave, The Europeans are experimenting with an Altitude limiting format using ZLOG and at least one other similar device where the CD opens a short launch window and you are free to launch at any time. There is a countdown and at the end of the countdown, you either have to be at the predetermined altitude and automatically shutdown by your altitude limiter, or if you misjudge and launch too late you shut your motor down as the CD sounds a signal ending the launch window (and presumably short of the maximum allowable launch height). Everybody's timing clock starts on that signal. Everybody is shooting for the same landing time. Man-on-man at its best, I think. Happy Landings, Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886033 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: In a message dated 6/27/2008 7:05:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gordy a lot of people fly electric sailplane events internationally and are really growing the events in different formats. I would not even consider explaining the flaws in your logic in the RC Digest article about soaring and electrics. But please explain this to me, why are the people who have no interest or participation in e-soaring events on any level, the experts of what the format should be. Next time I see you had better have a height limiter in your sailplane so everyone launches to the same height. ;o) There are a lot of people who fly electric sailplane events internationally. In the U.S. in the two principal events which have survived (Sailplane A LMR and Sailplane B LMR) at the Nats from 1998 to present, participation has steadily declined from 60 entrants in 1998 to (maybe) 22 entrants projected this year. In the last five nats, 50% of the entries in the two classes have been by seven individuals. Not exactly a resounding endorsement for the sport of the future. Relative to TD competition, which many have observed in these forums as being in decline, e-soaring competition is having a hard time being born. As to why are the people who have no interest or participation in e-soaring events on any level, the experts of what the format should be? -- perhaps it is because those people have adequate competition experience to judge for themselves whether they would like to participate in the events which are currently offered and sufficient insight to understand, that in some format, they might be very interested in participating. Of course TD guys are never resistant to suggestions of change to improve the sport :). But at this stage in its development, it would seem to me that e-soaring is still a great idea in search of an _additional_ format which will attract broader participation. It's obvious that many guys who have tried the existing formats have voted with their feet and moved on. It may not be as obvious to the people close to e-soaring that there may be many more people who might vote with their feet and come aboard if they had a different choice. Happy Landings, Don RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886033 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Gordy -- 2024?
2024? You may be expecting to still be able to buck winches until 2024 -- I'm not as confident that I will. In 2024 I'll be 79. Trust me, in 2024 79 will not likely be the new 60. And even it is for most of you, I have massively and irreversibly abused my body in my first 63 years. Even now, I find a morning or evening session with my electric AVA is seductively better than loading, setting up and flying on a winch. I'm no where near ready to give up TD as we know it. But somehow I sense that the day when flipping the motor switch on the AVA may be my only option is closer than 2024. Looking forward to the day you speed by me in your Adidas super-speed shoes and color coordinated running suit. Happy Landings, Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886236 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article
1st2fly Wrote: And for the real purists that don't want to sully their models with an installed power system, a standard power pod could be attached via the normal tow hook, which would drop off at the end of the power run and be recovered via it's own little chute by a runner, etc. That way, you don't have the drag and weight of the power system to lug around during the soaring part of the flight. Again, each such power pod would be restricted to a specific motor/prop/battery combo with a timer cutoff switch (you could use one of the switches the FF people use). Just think of all the winch and retriever related issues that would disappear! A club hosting a TD event using this launch method would not need to deal with the logistics and expense of winches, retrievers, batteries, chargers, and people to run them and maintain them. AND it would open up more fields that could be used that previously would have been considered too small for a TD event or not aligned into the most common prevailing winds, etc. And I'm sure there are many out there that could point out such a field that would be closer and more convenient to many club members in towns everywhere. Everyone could easily build such a power pod and for very little expense, if one of the more common and inexpensive outrunner motors were used. The only option allowed would be the type of battery used, as long as it's voltage output was restricted to a given value. The really competitive among us of course would try to build the lightest molded power pod with the smallest, lightest battery and ESC (and even that would be optional because with a timed cutoff, you don't need anything except full power - on or off - so an ESC is not required). I think that powered launch TD is a very, very valid idea! Keith -- From: 1st2fly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read the article in context:-) Seems to me there is a simple solution To use motors in place of winches and make it an even playing field, just simply require the use of only one specific make and model of motor, prop and battery pack so that everyone has exactly the same power system (like using the same winch) AND use a time-programmable battery cutout switch so that everyone gets the same motor run time. The cool thing about doing this is that it brings new meaning to Man-On-Man competition, because so many gliders could be launched all at the same time into the same air, especially if everyone were using 2.4 systems! Of course, LANDINGS would be interesting. h... 20 or 30 gliders all making close to their time and all trying to land at the same time. Obviously, the number of gliders launched at any one time would be limited by the number of landing tapes, etc., but at least you would not have to worry much about field layout with regard to winch lines, and for the same reason, wind direction wouldn't be as much of a factor, either. Contests could be run out of much smaller fields without the need to accommodate winches and lines. Keith -- From: Lincoln Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 6:50 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read the article in context:-) Just read the article. To some extent, I find myself agreeing (did I write that? pass the Risperdal!). However, just because Gordy and I succumb to tempatation when we have an electric glider* that is getting low, doesn't mean other people do. If you have the strength of will to ignore that nice power switch after the first climb is over, you can ignore what he said. But I'll admit that when there's a motor in the glider I usually won't fight out the last 50 or maybe even 100 feet. And I definitely will with an unpowered glider. So there go all those fun saves. (I was told that on a 58 minute flight (or was it the 60 minute flight??) I was down to 20 feet at 3 minutes. I thought it was 40, but that's another story. Low enough with a 25 year old 2 meter. (hmm... is this the Gordy bragging disease too?) We have a bunch of people flying electric gliders in our club. Some of them even come home with vinyl/brass/particle board plaques sometimes. Some of them have houses in structural overload from hanging the plaques on the wall. However, we also have a guy who is trying to start an electric event which involves old hlg's and vertical climbs. He very seldom talks about the power off part of the flight. This guy has acquired my old Chrysalis. It's very amusing to watch him launch, but it ain't soaring. He can get lots of exciting vertical drag racing
[RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)
TJB Wrote: So you can fly around as long as you can and look for thermals, but the motor goes off at 500 ft. Not very competitive. Actually, no. At least some of the formats which are being tested in Europe start with a signal for a _short_ launch window followed by a countdown followed by a signal which begins the flying time. Motors are shut off by the altitude device at or prior to the signal or by the pilot at the signal. If a plane has not crossed the altitude threshold during the short launch window it will start from the lower altitude at which it finds itself at the time of the start. Presumably, the _short_ launch window is designed simply to accommodate a modest difference in climb rates so as to not require a pilot to have to have a maximum power setup. Happy Landings, Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886033 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] I'm okay
I heard the news of that horrific event this morning on the local National Public Radio station. It is truly amazing to see how close to home this event comes when someone like Darwin reports in. Such a sad event. Glad to hear you are ok. Kurt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:18 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] I'm okay I've gotten several private emails from concerned people regarding the mid air collision of two medical helicopters in Flagstaff AZ where at least 7 people were killed. I am alive and well but a little numb right now. Many know that I fly medical helicopters for AirEvac a division of PHI, Inc. I'm based out of Yuma AZ and have the night shift this week. I'm on duty now. Our company had a fatal accident 3 weeks ago in TX and one of our AZ aircraft crashed on Friday night injuring the 3 crew members as they were landing at an accident scene. The tragedy today was witnessed by some of our employees who were at the Flagstaff hospital visiting our employees injured Friday. I am thankful for the many friends I have in the soaring community and the many emails I've received checking on my welfare. Thank you. For those so inclined please put these people on your prayer list. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: For Sale--Picolario Variometer
Hi Dan is it still available David -- fudi50 fudi50's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=28410 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549820 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: 30 minute first flight on my new Cularis by Hitec/MPX)
Gordy, Any concern about the wing attachmet points? Also, did you replace the wing rods with carbon because you saw a problem or just something you did because you had them. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: Hi guys, I flew my Cularis today off my winch. Good air day. Like a good little instruction follower, I balanced it on the dots. I gave it a gentle hand toss and as expected, DOINK about 15' in front of me. All I had for nose weight is a 4cell 1250 sub C pack with the cells standing upright beside each other in a row. It was all the way up against theplastic motor mount cup. Once balanced it is now all the way back against the foam cross piece just in front of the servos. The model balances at 4 measured from the trailing edge of the wing, 1 behind the dots. I'm working on my Silver Level Canadian Soaring Task, which asks for 6 30min thermal flights (witnessed). So I decided what the heck, might as well take one down with the Cularis. Most of the flight it was impossible to see the model, blue skies with high thin clouds, and she was up at about 1200' (I know because I have a Picolario talking altimeter) for most of the flight. I have 3/8 full span camber programmed in for thermaling, that bends back to about 3/16 in the air, but worked well...and the usual rudder to aileron mix, camber pump with elevator and as is normal most of the thermaling was done with 80% rudder stick and a bit of up trim elevator...along with the camber. I'll admit I'm surprised it launches well with the all the glass rods replaced with carbon or carbon tubes...and she flies as well as a Spirit Elite 100. The landing flaps are functional too. Very nice piece of foam. I made the tips and ruder and nose cone tape-ons, so that it all fits in the box for storage...likely mine will sit in the rafters for the next few years, but it was a fun project and excellent flying model. Definitely worth the money and for a newbie to the hobby of soaring, easy to build, durable and fun to fly too. Also worth the money for someone who wants a scale looking slope ship! Full house, full flying stab, the wings snap in and the servos plug themselves in too! You can paint it with Krylon if you like by the way. Gordy Louisville today **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) -- aeajr aeajr's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=16056 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=870436 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Got a RES plane you want to sell cheap?
I have a new club member who has really mastered his parkflyer, an Easy Star. And he is getting pretty good at thermaling it. Now I want to take him to gliders. So he is looking for a RES plane. An AVA would be great but out of his price range. Now, I know you all fly hot shot top of the line moldies, so you must have a nice 2.5-3M RES plane somewhere, gathering dust, that you would just love to put in the hands of a new glider pilot for a super reasonable price. He is no builder so kits are out of the picture. ARFs, Receiver ready or RTFs would be great. It ain't for me guys. I am working on turning parkflyer pilots into glider pilots. They need planes. Got one? Best regards, Ed Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Got a RES plane you want to sell cheap?
Ed, I have a skybird from Ray Hayes I don't fly much anymore. It has all the servo's and a futaba receiver. It has flaps instead of spoilers which work really well on this airframe. Never been wrecked. The kit is about $300.00 so I would let it go for that. Let me know if you have interest. Buyer needs to pay shipping. Tom Bean Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:33:22 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Got a RES plane you want to sell cheap? To: Soaring@airage.com I have a new club member who has really mastered his parkflyer, an Easy Star. And he is getting pretty good at thermaling it. Now I want to take him to gliders. So he is looking for a RES plane. An AVA would be great but out of his price range. Now, I know you all fly hot shot top of the line moldies, so you must have a nice 2.5-3M RES plane somewhere, gathering dust, that you would just love to put in the hands of a new glider pilot for a super reasonable price. He is no builder so kits are out of the picture. ARFs, Receiver ready or RTFs would be great. It ain't for me guys. I am working on turning parkflyer pilots into glider pilots. They need planes. Got one? Best regards, Ed Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_feb
Re: [RCSE] About CDs collecting model information
At our Gamblers Gala contest in North West Nevada we just put a space for plane flown on the score card and the landing judge would refuse to sign the card if they had not filled it in! Most of the computer scoring programs have or can easily add this space near channel or pilot number?? The score kepper adds it along with scores! This way the plane and pilot are connected and easy to find... Not really a big thing to keep Gordy happy Lee Cox CD tony estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...An extra responsibility like collecting model information is something the CD, usually a volunteer who does not fly the event, probably doesn't need == At the Gateway Open we requested this info on the pilots' sign-up sheet. Alas, most left the space blank -- including Gordy. We'll do it again this year, so everybody will have another chance. If we get enough responses, I'll post the tally here. However, for this year's F3J WC all the info is available, as has been posted earlier, and I would agree with those who find it to be very interesting indeed. LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Looking for Todd Larson
In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:47:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:26 AM Subject: Looking for Todd Larson Please ping me off line. Computer malfunction, lost ship to address. Skip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
