[RCSE] For Sale - Starflight Pulsar F5J-400 e-glider
2000 model, 1.8m 3-piece carbon/kevlar D-box wing, glass pod w/carbon boom, built-up tail, no skeg, specially built with removable tail (conventional style, bolt-on, servos plug in boom end ), rudder and elevator servos in tail assembly (Cirrus 6.2g there and ailerons) flown very little but launch-dorked once cracking fuselage pod - all repaired with CA, minor hangar rash on wing; QRP 400 w/Cosmotech 4.4:1 gearbox, 11 x 8 CAM folder, 20A ESC; add small 5/6ch end-plug Xcvr, 150mAh 4-cell, 7-cell NiMh 900mAh and fly. Excellent light air performance, gets out of boomers and targets for landing with spoileron. Hi-Res photos by email to serious inquiries. Too many toys. Best offer over $250. Bruce DeVisser San Jose, CA 408-921-1900 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Electric Tug info
Craig, I am buildingthe third E-Tow Plane. It is a Roedel Sky Wing tow plane, very similar to the Graupner Taxi 2400 offered by Hobby Lobby, with an Axi 5330/F3A, 23 x 11 prop, Jeti 90 ESC, 10S4P 8,000 LiPo. Performance should be similar to your Hangar 9 Super Cub. I don't think your tow release is overkill - I use at least 150 ounce servo for my tow plane releases - theother half of success is astrongrelease mechanism; 200 ounce servos on tail surfaces and 110 on wings. I was going tobring a Do-27 but it will only tow 3 meter size. After years of towing with gas engines this will be something new! I will be on Channel 26 or 58. Bruce DeVisser San Jose, CA - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: [RCSE] Electric Tug info I have received a lot of request for info on the Tugs we will be using for our event so I am posting to the group. Here is info on two of the tugs that will be at our event. At this time I do not have info on the third one. First off this is not a cheap endeavor. Brian Chan is currently building a 1/4 scale Wilga using a monster motor provided by Steve Nue that will turn a 27 inch prop pulling over 100ampsusing 12s4p thunder power batteries. It should have no problem pulling up a 30 pound glider at a cost of around $3,500 or so. My Tug is a Hanger 9 1/4 scale Super Cub ARF( No longer Avalible) that easily pulls up my brothers 20 pound very draggy scale gliders. I'm using an Axi 5330/24 Spinning a 22/12 prop with a Jetti 90 amp controller. Batteries are Thunder Power. I use 3 packs of 3s4p wired in series giving me 8000ma. I do this for several reasons. 1. It is much easier to fit and balance the plane with three packs then one or two. 2. I can easily use the packs in other planes of various sizes so they are not just siting around when we are not aero-towing. But the real advantage is I have 3 Astro Flight chargers, I can charge all three batteries at once at 6 amps. It only takes about an hour to have all three of them ready to go again. So by having two sets of 3 packs... Yep.. 6 batteries total. You can tow all day without interruption with this set up. The only Mods I made to the Super Cubwere using the largest Balloon tires I could find and for safety reason I did the following. Icut the counter balance part of the rudderoff and fixed it in place to prevent thetow line from snagging. I might of gone a little overboard with the tow line release, I installed a HS-6985 HB digital servo with 172oz of torque on a 2 to1 bell-crank system so in affect I have 344oz of pulling power on the pin. I lost my first tug to what I believe was a receiver battery coming loose while doing some acrobatics.So on my latest one I installed a duel 5 cell flight pack system with separate on-off switches and connections to the receiver, and I don't do acrobatics any more :-) I will be happy to answer any questions you might have. Sincerely Craig
[RCSE] Last Chance to bid on a beautiful 6 meter scale sailplane
South Bay Soaring Society is auctioning a fully-molded 6 meter Ventus 2C scale sailplane. Please see our club web site for photos and details at: www.sbss.org. This is an excellent value for scale soaring enthusiasts, and the current bid price is still quite low - under $900! Bidding closes at 11:59 PM on Monday June 12, 2006. Thank you. Bruce DeVisser VP SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 6m Ventus 2C for sale
South Bay Soaring Society (San Jose, CA area) is auctioning a 6 meter all-molded scale glider to raise funds for new flying field acquisition. Please note delivery is limited to California as there is no shipping container. Please check our club website for details of this great opportunity at www.sbss.org. Thanks. Bruce DeVisser SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 6 meter Ventus 2C auction
South Bay Soaring Society is auctioning a large scale glider. Please see our club web site for photos and details at: www.sbss.org. This is a really good opportunity for scale soaring enthusiasts. Thanks. Bruce DeVisser SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NIB 6 meter Ventus 2C for sale
South Bay Soaring Society is auctioning a large scale glider. Please see our club web site for photos and details at: www.sbss.org. This is a really good opportunity for scale soaring enthusiasts. Bidding is open until June 12th. Thanks. Bruce DeVisser SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Tug info wanted.
John, I am not specifically familiar with the Wilga you mention, but at the recent SBSS Los Banos Scale Event a group of guys from SoCal had a nice ELECRIC Wilga Tug that easily towed up 4-meter gliders several times on a charge. Tow Plane: - Wilga ¼ scale electric (Hobby Club), Nue BAM 2215 1 ½ turn motor with a 6.7:1 gear box, 12S4P TP Lipo batteries, Schulze 40.160 speed controller, 26 X 15 Prop I don't have their contact info, but if you contact Alberto at Hobby Club I know that he has all the details. Bruce DeVisser SBSS www.sbss.org (see events) --- Original Message --- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?John_D_Frug=E9?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Tug info wanted. I wanted to see if anyone has a Wilga-35 ARF TUG from = http://www.icare-rc.com/wilga.htm I would like some feedback / pic's on a gas or electric setup.=20 I plan to go electric. Thanks, John D. Frug=E9 Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Paging George Voss...
Title: Initial CG on a scratch ship... George Voss, Please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Bruce
[RCSE] Los Banos 2006 Scale Sailplane Event next weekend
Next weekend April 22 - 23, 2006 will be the 13th annual Los Banos Scale event. In spite of the unusually heavy rains, the site is in good condition, it just needs a good mowing, which the Park Rangers will take care of this week. We are expecting a good turnout, and with the weather outlook becoming drier there should be excellent soaring, (and cross your fingers) good wind for slope soaring. Come on out and soar! Bruce DeVisser South Bay Soaring Society www.sbss.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Vinylwrite
Hi Robert, I use ModelGrafix in Visalia, CA. Call Disk Tristao at 559 625-3590. He recently didan extensive scale graphics package for my 5-meter Pilatus B-4 and it was perfect. Bruce DeVisser San Jose, CA - Original Message - From: Robert P. Buxton To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:44 AM Subject: [RCSE] Vinylwrite Was going to get some needed vinyl lettering for some of my birds and have done business in the past with Vinylwrite.com in Napa, CA. It would appear that perhaps they are no longer in business. Does anyone have any information on the whereabouts and status of this company. Or is this one of our Cottage industries that has gone by the wayside. If so, would like info on a good source of vinyl letter for my sailplanes. Thanks to all. Robert Robert P. Buxton105 Oak Hill AvenueLittleton, NH 03561-4811The information contained in this message may be confidential and protected from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
Re: [RCSE] redundancy for scale
Brent, I have been using 2 x 5-cell packs, dual high-quality switches (very important), and plugged separately into the receiver for my 4-meter and up ships. Since I use all 8 channels I power the Xcvr through 2 Y harnesses. This has saved a scale sailplane twice in 10 years (two different sets of batteries!), once due to a servo jam, the other a bad cell. So I have only damaged my ships by disconnected brain, thumbs, or both. YMMV... Bruce - Original Message - From: Douglas, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: [RCSE] redundancy for scale Has anyone here ever set up a redundant battery and switch for a scale ship? Was it worth the trouble? I'm working out my servo / rx / battery tray, and I'm torn between duplicating everything or just using a Y on two batteries. The extreme would be having two RXs, splitting the plane, either left / right, maybe one for the wings the other for everything else. Without a split elevator, that's probably not worth pursuing (I probably couldn't land it if if I lost the elevator). In the end, I'm just looking for reliable power for a lot of servos. Any experiences you've had would be much appreciated. Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Gliders for Sale
Posting this for San Francisco Bay Area friend - please contact directly via info at end of list. Thanks. Model Gliders for Sale from former SBSS member:: 1) RR Genesis; 113in all composite full function glider; Airtronics Vision Tx 6 servos, ready to fly. Built by Scott Meader; flown 4 times; a few small imperfections. Not an SE version. $500 OBO 2) Airtronics Sagitta kit; 99in balsa and ply kit, new in box. $225 OBO 3) Airtronics Eclipse kit; 78in electric motor glider, new in box. $70 OBO 4) Spectrum; 109in all composite glider with 6 servos, can fly as is but needs cosmetic repairs, beer can material used to repair wings; good for first try with multifunction glider; 2 horizontal stabs; $140 OBO. 5) Rave fiberglass fuse by Viking; 10.25in wing chord, includes plans. ($25 OBO) 6) Great Planes Spirit 100; full function, 3 piece wing, 6 servos, ready to fly. Great first multi function glider. ($260 OBO) 7) Great Planes Spirit 100 kit; only rudder and stab built. ($100 OBO). 8) 2 Meter full function name unknown; no servos, composite fuse, foam core wing, free ($0) to a good home. Contact: Wayne Scott 408-379-3166 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries??
Hi Kent, I've had great service and support from Diversity in San Diego - try www.flydma.com. Bruce DeVisser SBSS - Original Message - From: Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Aerotow scale topics
Jim, First documented aerotow: Germany, Spring 1927, according to research I did a few years ago. They hadn't yet invented a release system - the glider pilot manually released the tow rope - I think he just let go! Some famous aviators like Peter Riedel were in this group of daring pilots. Bruce DeVisser - Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: [RCSE] Aerotow scale topics I was browsing through a German book on gliders used during the war and came across a couple of interesting photos. One claims to show the first aerotow attempt - both towplane glider (definitely not a sailplane) would be interesting topics. The other shows a DFS 230 troop glider with a bracket that held an ME-109. The theory was that the ME-109 powered the combination to a release point the covered the DFS 230 descent. Wouldn't that combo turn a few heads at a scale aerotow event? Jim Deck -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 6/21/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Volz Kolibri Servos - for sale
Found 4 new Volz Kolibri and 2 Kolibri Twin servos stashed away. Volz quit making them a while ago, but they were their tiny lightweight servo offering. They each have a 10-inch lead with universal plug (JR/Futaba/Hitec). All have arm sets. Also one older style Kolibri that was used for installation mockups - has 2 wheels and lead but no arm set. $100.00 for the lot shipped Priority Mail insured USA only. Bruce DeVisser San Jose, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Los Banos Scale Soaring Event this weekend
Just a reminder that this weekend is the annual Los Banos Scale event. We are expecting a good turnout this year, and we have some nice support from the hobby industry including Hobby Club, Tom Martin RC, and Quiet Flyer. We also are offering the Scalesoaring (John Derstine) Gold Medal soaring achievement medals for thermal excellence with your scale ship (no you can't count time on the slope as thermal time!). Check John's web site for details at: www.scalesoaring.com. By request of the attendees we will have 2 raffles this year - the traditional free one for registered pilots only, and this year we will try a separate raffle open to all in attendance. We have a new aerotow runway this year that works much better than previous setups - wish we had photos of it already but will include aerial shots with the event report. The weather report looks good with chance of a shower on Saturday night. Come on out and have some fun! I'm on my way out there when I log off. Bruce DeVisser Organizing Team -Los Banos 2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Event Announcement - Los Banos Scale 2005 April 23-24, 2005
Calling all Aerotowers, Vintage Scale Sailplaners and White Wingers! Los Banos, California - a great place to visit and fly scale sailplanes! Just over 2 weeks to go and things are shaping up nicely. We have a new runway for aerotowing that's an nice improvement over last year, allowing simultaneous slope and aerotow with separate traffic patterns, closer to the center of action than before, and this year even safer - no boundary fence on final approach. Our Park Rangers are taking great care of us! Come on out and have some great fun. We'll be out there from Thursday (21st) on. Bring water, hats and sunscreen - this is the Central Valley and Spring can get hot. Burgers, Hot Dogs and Sodas as usual, maybe some of that awesome Chili... Check www.sbss.org for Hotels, Registration and Maps. You have until April 15th for Lynsel Miller to receive your $20 registration fee and form, or pay $25 on site. Email to me or Brian Chan if you need other info. Bruce DeVisser Brian Chan Los Banos Organizing Team 2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?
Hi Rob, Your test with a glitch counter is not a vaild measure of interference, unless the model carrying ithas been calibrated in a "clean environment", like a radio test chamber, and the area under test has been profiled across the user'sfrequency band. I've had hundreds of glitches recorded on calibrated devices and not seen a single twitch from the plane. FYI... Bruce DeVisser - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch? Fact: It is very unlikely anyone flying a mile away is adversely affecting anyone at your field, irregardless of the frequency. Remember...the receiver would need to see on-frequency RF that is equal or greater from the offending transmitter to gain control. The above statement is unfortunately incorrect. I used to think the same way, but I have had my mind changed. We (North Alabama Silent Fliers) unfortunately lost our field due to construction recently. In an effort to find a new field we tried to move to a nice spot that is around 2.5 miles from an existing RC site. We borrowed a small glitch counter from the AMA (thanks to Steve Kaluf) and went trhough the procedures outlined by AMA to test for interference between the two sites. Testing was done with a .25 sized trainer aircraft, flown pretty far out but not near as far out as I've flown an unlimited glider. The "interfering" transmitter easily registered at the airplane from the distant (prospective) field. sorry to burst anybody's bubble, Rob Glover
Re: [RCSE] Pager? Interference
It sounds very much like you are dealing with pager and/or industrial radio control interference. About the only way to track down the source(s) is to use a programmable scanner hooked to a PC with appropriate software, a uni-directional antenna, a directional antenna, and invest a bunch of time monitoring. Then when you detect a signal in your band you know what frequency and strength the signal is, and if you are quick (!), you can establish the direction the signal is coming from. A few years ago we had a similar intermittent problem at our club field, and being lucky enough to have a retired scientist and Ham as a member, who was also well-equipped with monitoring equipment, we set out to track down the source. We were able to determine it was a high-powered pager tower a couple of miles away (line of sight) and above us, aimed down into our area. We ended up banning one channel and giving warnings on the adjacent 2 channels, and our problems were reduced to noise level. FYI.. Bruce DeVisser - Original Message - From: Howard Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: [RCSE] Pager? Interference At one field I fly at often, we've had problems with interference since the facility was opened 3 years ago. JR receivers seem to have the biggest issues. I believe the early 700's (could be 600's) were worst. I've heard JR has updated the receiver to fix the issues. I mention JR only as information and NOT as a slam. Many of the guys that had problems with JR gear have replaced the receivers with RCD and have had no more big issues. A couple of weeks ago I (ch32) was aerotowing a friend's (Jon) sailplane. He got hit shortly after takeoff (ch44) and also just before landing - causing him to damage a beautiful sailplane. Jon was flying Airtronics gear (Stylus) PPM. Just a few minutes later a pilot flying a 1/3 scale 3D plane with JR PCM reported that he'd had a lot of hits. Turns out he didn't know if the interference was caused by his ignition, setup Or if it was coming from some other source. I witnessed several uneventful flights so I figured it was safe to fly. I fired up my trusty Skybolt and wrung it out for a few minutes. I thought I had a minor hit once - just before the thing dove straight into the ground - full throttle - from about 200 feet. The model exploded and was a total write-off. I've flown this model at the same facility dozens of times before without a problem. I used an Airtronics 660 / RCD 535 in the Skybolt. Of course a frequency scanner showed that my frequency was clean AFTER the wreck. Club members have tried in vain to find the source of the interference. I had not had many problems before I lost the Skybolt - a few glitches that last a second or so - and those are rare. But once Bob Vixie came out to fly there and his Tiger II went wacko on approach. It dove straight at the ground rolling - full throttle, pulled out inverted at about 3 feet and rolled back upright and cut the throttle - all on it's own before giving control back to Bob. Bob was so shaken that he shoved the radio at me and said Here - YOU land it!. Bob had the susceptible gear in his plane. Now to my question. Is it possible that this is pager interference? I've downloaded the coordinates of pager antennas from the FCC and plotted them. Connecting the dots by company reveals three possible sources. Of course I don't know if these are pager repeaters or not. Is it POSSIBLE that our field is in the path of a high-powered pager repeater - and that this could be the source of our interference? Our field is on the high plains just east of the foothills near Denver. The pager antennas are located in the foothills above - and in the plains to the east below. A hi-gain antenna (yagi...) will still probably have a beam width wide enough to cause a problem for anything close to the centerline of it's path. I've read that repeaters can use 300W of power! Any info that anyone can supply would be appreciated!!! - but please facts and NOT just opinions. Mark This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED
[RCSE] Los Banos Scale Soaring meet is this weekend!
Attention all West Coast Scale soaring enthusiasts - the 11th Annual Los Banos Scale Soaring Event event will be this weekend April 24th 25th! Come early and enjoy the slope or tow if there is no wind - usually someone is around to tow on Friday. Info: http://www.sbss.org/LosBanos2004/losbanos2004.htm Registration form: http://www.sbss.org/LosBanos2004/losbanos2004.htm Map: http://www.sbss.org/LosBanosStuff/banos_map.jpg Hotels: http://www.sbss.org/LosBanosStuff/LosBanosHotels.htm This year we have a new field layout, some nice prizes (including a full-scale sailplane ride), and Gold Medal Soaring (see www.scalesoaring.net). Lunch will be available as usual both days. We have tow planes and one of the best scale slope sites in the country. Please bring your scale gliders out and join us! Any questions email me. Bruce DeVisser Los Banos Event Organizer VP, SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 11th Annual Los Banos Scale Soaring Event April 24th 25th, 2004
Attention Scale Glider-Guiders! Mark April 24th and 25th on your calendars! The 11th Annual Los Banos Scale Event iscoming soon, so plan now to attend for a weekend of flying fun. For 2004 we have a new runway arrangement for Aerotowing, providing an improved grass area away from the slope. The original landing area adjacent to the slope remains available as well. Winch will be available also. - Pilots Choice awards - Pilot's Raffle - Scale Soaring Gold Medal Achievement For the first time we willoffer the option of Scale Thermal Duration competition - you can earn medals for thermalling your favorite scale ship! This is the Scale Soaring Gold Medal Achievement program sponsored by John Derstine of Scalesoaring.com. Please see http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/scalesoaringgold.htmfor details. NOTE: slopesoaring not eligible!! - T-shirts - something different this year - Food: burgers anddogs available at lunch and soft drinks all day both days Check our website (www.sbss.org) in a week or so for updated information. Apologies for the outdated info presently there - we are trying to fix that and get the 2004 Registration form posted. Hotel info is okay, best place is the Holiday Inn Express in Santa Nella; pool and free breakfast. Bruce DeVisser: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Chan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bruce mis spoke on Voltage Monitors
Sheldon, Remember that the original pointwas about theGas Gauge ability of voltage monitors relative to NiCads versus NiMHs apparently you think it is an opportunity to promote your product... Here is my finalcommentary, my position, whichis fact-based but IS my personal opinion, that you openly invite at your website: http://members.rogers.com/meneer/ynt/files/faqs/voltage.htm "First let me make it very clear that I am the owner of YNT uDesign and, as such, do have a personal "interest", in the continued sales of my product--The BC6 Flight Monitor. I would still make the statements below regardless of my involvement with YNT uDesign or any other company. I would never, knowingly, mislead anyone intentionally...while I believe my statements to be accurate they are, after all, my own opinion and,as with any advice,you should evaluate it--then form your own conclusion!" Anyone who has read your most recent post, and then reads your website information,can easily see contradictions between your statements here and the information you provide on your website relative to use of the BC6. In fact, they can see the contradictions within your post: "Again, speaking to the BC6...Basically this is really no different than the little low fuel indicator in most vehicles. The low fuel indicator in vehicles is calibrated to activatewhen a certain quantity of fuel remains - but the BC6 indicates the equivalent of the fuel pressure; yourvain search for analogies to validate your statements only highlights the difference between NiCad and NiMH, again, one of the original points. And a relevant contradiction between your post and your website: "You're saying that "green or equivalent" means that there is enough for another flight...That is NOT what I'm saying." But on your website you clearly state at: http://members.rogers.com/meneer/ynt/files/products/electronics/bc6/operation.htm "After each flight you should check the BC6 before shutting off your Tx and Rx. The BC6 will display the LOWEST voltage recorded during your flight and the number of glitches encountered during that flight. If any of the Green LEDs are on it is still safe to fly." (last sentence emphasisadded byme for clarity) You have clearly indicated yourmain interest is commercial in nature, which inherently taints anyinformation you provide beyond verifiable specification and performance data. Anyonewho understands and practices propercare and maintenance of their RC battery systems, regardless of chemistry, does not rely solely on a voltage monitor.Most that don't understand,and use voltage monitors, rely on them as if it were a gas gauge - this from personal observation of several years. I won'tuse anyfurther bandwidth on this,as you have turned the subject significantly away from the original point, and further discussion would not contribute materially to that original point. Bruce
