Re: [RCSE] The Top Pilots Are Sluts and Idiots?
The top pilots get to fly all the nice planes and they can and do pick the one they like the most. With their skills why would we not want to know what they like? ---BeginMessage--- Brian said it best, the top guys, heck every body reading this forum, will tend to chose the models to fly that they feel best compliments their skills, will give them the best chance at flying a perfect score. Just because the most talented guys 'can' do well with anything doesn't mean they are stupid...they chose the plane that compliments their flying and optimizes their chancesthe sharpest tool for them. To imply that JW or DP or any of our top pilots only fly what is given to them disrespects them on every level. If they couldn't afford the hobby, they wouldn't be in it for long. You know DP and you know JW...they aren't for sale...they chose the models they fly and pay for them. Gordy Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more! ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Re: Mikey and 60 Acres
The fact is King County requires all pilots to have AMA membership. Even if you fly on 2.4. Even if you fly a 1 oz electric plane made of foam. Even if you fly a glider. These are the facts. No AMA and you are breaking the rules if you fly at 60 acres. -- Original message -- From: _Mikey_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I belong to several full scale clubs and fields, and I go to fly there. But only after the planes have been flight tested @ 60. Remember me mentioning Marymoor and Flaming Geyser? I never have a problem with any rules at these fields, and neither did I at 60, till recently. The Flaming Geyser people are really nice. Marymoor, not so much, but I got thick skin. Sounds like the tone of these prior two posts is pretty clear. Contradicting the plea for help. Schizophrenia, or blatant selfishness? This is simply the same point I made with my first posting, is that you guys just simply aren't interested in the use of the field for anyone besides yourselves. And now it's not just Sherman... It's Chris and ... someone from New Mexico??? Off I go! Have fun you guys. When they start requiring paid AMA memberships with the purchase of Air Hogs and Park Zone planes, don't hesitate to let me know. :) -- _Mikey_ _Mikey_'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=204221 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862378 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Look out Gateway, I'm planning on attending!
I think the LSF needs a new task for level 5, just for Gordy. The POP OFF task. We'll let Gordy defign the task and we all get to vote on it. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi guys, I have to run over to Malasia for a week or so prior but I think I can return to St Louis on Friday evening about 9pm, then attend the contest that weekend! Likely I'll need a wheel chair to get around after that marathon flight of about 20hours or soand special consideration on pop-offs (maybe and spare 2 or 3 per round)...but looking forward to another fun contest! Gordy **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ---BeginMessage--- Hi guys, I have to run over to Malasia for a week or so prior but I think I can return to St Louis on Friday evening about 9pm, then attend the contest that weekend! Likely I'll need a wheel chair to get around after that marathon flight of about 20hours or soand special consideration on pop-offs (maybe and spare 2 or 3 per round)...but looking forward to another fun contest! GordyWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Re: Re: SASS HELP ALERT !! Keeping Sixty Acres South for the Greater ...
The size and weight of the electrics flying at 60 acres south has been growing steadily. I have seen 5+ lb electrics flying there in the past month. The Heli's are also getting larger. I have seen several 600 size heli's flying at 60 acres. Its only a matter of time before a 28 lb 30% Extra with the new 4 hacker motor setup shows up to fly. Even a 5 oz electirc shock flyer can do damage to a little kid just walking thru the parking lot (remember the prop is spinning at 4,000 rpms). Safety is utmost and no matter what you fly (yes even if it has no motor) SAFETY COMES FIRST. If you want to fly as I see you flying go to a private place, be it a soccer field or some other open space. When in a public park with public people walking around its a no brainer SAFETY COMES FIRST. -- Original message -- From: _Mikey_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for explaining, Sherman. :) I had typed up a pretty nasty flame, but then I cut it and didn't send it. My point to posting was to let you know what kind of reaction you caused with the electric guys. There's a couple things that are immutable about Sunday. 1: The regularity of the crowd that you were confronting. These guys (including the guy who told you not to take a picture of him) are all there pretty much whenever they can be. I've known them for months. Some for years. They show up down there more often than I do. They are regulars at the field. But nobody's disputing the fact that the glider guys were there first. And yes, we're there because of you. Obligatory humility. I know the history. I signed the petitions in 2004 2007. These guys all fly 12-24oz birds made mostly of styrofoam and perhaps a little balsa, with a few exceptions. The 4oz battery is the heaviest part. For the most part, talking about safety with that size of airplane, is like talking about safety with a 16oz frisbee, or a 24oz football. Plastic props break before they break skin, unless you *hold* your finger there like I did. :) Safety when you are talking about pounds and feet and gas, is a totally different story, and that is why the AMA safety rules were created. To keep people from getting injured by heavy birds. Park fliers think it is ridiculous to be subjected to safety rules which were written for a 5 plus pound bird. This is why your safety argument was met with such hostility by the majority of fliers. 2: The reaction of the crowd that you were confronting. Without exception, each and every single person that was there, either left to go to the other side of the road, or was upset with you and poked fun of you after you left. That reaction, inherently, over so many people, regardless of electric or glider, speaks for itself. Taking pictures of activity at the park, with these guys' knowledge of your political agenda and Who You Are, General Sherman, right after getting on them about flying over the parking lot, would certainly be interpreted as an invasion of privacy, and you don't even have to be paranoid. On sunny days, two or three people a day stop by and ask questions of me while I am flying, and I am very friendly to them. My friend from work was there on Sunday, he was actually interested in the gliders, till you came over. He *was* completely and totally unbiased. Way to teach 'em! :) My point was, and remains, that as long as you cause this kind of reaction in people, generically, whether soliciting their help or not (and are you soliciting my help as an electric guy? Or not, cause I sure am not a lawyer!), you will not succeed in your goal. That's the truth, no matter whose help you are soliciting. I'm trying to help you out and get you to chill out a little bit and perhaps change your attitude towards people you interact with. Interpersonal skill burnishing, call it. Perhaps these pointers into the electric guys behavior might be of help to you in figuring out why, when you speak at the council, you get results that you aren't expecting. Good luck. I know a lot is riding on this for you. -- _Mikey_ _Mikey_'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=204221 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=860486 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in
Re: [RCSE] Just Got My New TD Ship in the Mail Today!
MessageI too just picked up a new Shadow. Time to start assembly, as soon as Tuan starts his build thread:) - Original Message - From: TDL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Just Got My New TD Ship in the Mail Today! Having been away from the Soaring scene since last Sept, I had to treat my symptoms with a couple new F3X.COM Shadows. Documenting the progress as I put her together. Laptop in the Garage using 2.4g wireless router. Will post the build on RCgoups. This in addition to the 2 Pike Perfects I had just finish prior... well make that 2.5 Perfects. My first Perfect died a peculiar death, only the tips and stab are reusueable. Got replacement parts coming. Now as if that was not enough, I have just been exposed to another infectious disease... I think you call it F3F, been doing some reading on it. Pretty contagiously exciting stuff. Oh yeah, life is good. Anyway, hope we cross paths again, I could use a I Beat Gordy button, have a great weekend everyone. Tuan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:44 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Just Got My New TD Ship in the Mail Today! Just got home from soaring some in Tullahoma TN yesterday morning, and it being already about 5 oclock, I was slipping into soaring withdrawals when my Catahoula started barking her UPS bark. Sure enough, like a message from the soaring godsit was the new ship I'd been waiting for a few months to get. Can't wait to get started on it! Full house fully molded, but some assembly required as with most today. Its all white, so I'll have to add some color to it as usual. Totally 2.4 friendly fuse, so I'll be installing a Spektrum system in it likely. How about you guys? Any new planes arrive, or on their way for this season? Gordy Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 7:15 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 7:15 PM
[RCSE] Pike Superior for sale
I am selling my Superior (carbon 68) x-tail. It is yellow with red bottoms. Volts servos all around and a 2400 mah 5 cell battery (no receiver). Also included is a Pike Superior Electric fuse (yellow) with the servos for the elevator and rudder installed. I will include an Aveox F12 LMR motor with a 80A speed controller. I want $800 for the Superior and $350 for the electric fuse and motor. $1150 for all including shipping to lower 48. I have a zip file with pictures so if interested e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR 9303 Flap Programming Question
You also need to set the flapern mix. Its just above the flap rate. Set the values to +100 and you should see them work. -- Original message -- From: Chris Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got a 9303 for an incredible price, and have run into a wall trying to convert all my gliders over to it. I've followed this post as a guide from rcgroups: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347609 My problem is that I try adjusting the flaps in the flap rates and camber mix menus, but I don't see any change in the flaps as I move the various switches for the various flight modes. I'm trying to program a Berg 4l, berg 7 channel, and a jr700 rx. Is there something that I'm missing? I've tried to program this like I would my JR 6102, but this is an entirely different beast. FYI, I'm trying to program three DLGs, and a 3M Trio, as well as a couple of 2Ms. Thanks for the help, Chris Rose RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RTS Soaring Works
Does anyone know Dan Stang of RTS Soaring Works. He is a builder in New Jersey and I and others have been trying to get a hold of him for over a week. His cell phone will not accept anymore messages. Any help would be appreciated. David
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4?
NO FREQUENCY CONTROL BOARD. You are free to fly anytime you like and do not have to locate others on your frequency. -- Original message -- From: Joe Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as I've been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever dream of using. So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand relishing technical challenges-but what is the attraction of this apparently finicky and expensive technology? I just don't get it. Could someone 'splain to me what the big deal is? Joe Parsons ---BeginMessage--- Ive been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as Ive been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever dream of using. So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand relishing technical challengesbut what is the attraction of this apparently finicky and expensive technology? I just dont get it. Could someone splain to me what the big deal is? Joe Parsons ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Speaking of Fuutaba...
Proof once again You get what you pay for -- Original message -- From: TDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the many really kool feature of the Futaba radio I am using is that I can take an actual photo of my plane and load it into the Futaba's TX's screen to give me a visual of the actual model. To date I havent tried to fly a Pike Perfect with the Pike Superior settings. Helps a lot too when you have a few of the same birds so you don't have to remember Pike Perfect 1, Pike Perfect 2 etc... just glance at the Futaba screen and you will know which model is loaded. Now if only Futaba can make fast enough the 2.4g retrofit for the standard MZ's it would be great. Did I mention I love the Futaba 14MZ? -Original Message- From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:44 PM To: Albert E. Wedworth; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to? Al, You had me right up tell you said Stylus I thought your parents raised you better Al :-) Now if you had said Futaba 9C... One. I would of made $1 and two, you would of shown how smart you are :- A Stylus up against a Futaba is kind of like Dos up against Mac Very Ugly :- Craig. Long Live 72 :-) 42 years of using it and no problems yet The financial crisis is kind of like people swimming nude in the ocean... You don't know how ugly it is tell the tides gone out... And then its very very ugly... Warren Buffet Albert E. Wedworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness ) Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying! Not wondering where to put the silly little whisker antennas or if the install gona work in my TOY sailplane. The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my channel (; = ! I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 2.4 in the future either! I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see no need to change EVER! Loving 72 meg on ch 51 Al In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release Date: 3/4/2008 8:35 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release Date: 3/4/2008 8:35 AM ---BeginMessage--- Title: Message One of the many really kool feature of the Futaba radio I am using is that I can take an actual photo of my plane and load it into the Futaba's TX's screento give mea visual of the actual model. To date I havent tried to fly a Pike Perfect with the Pike Superior settings. Helps a lot toowhen you have a few of the same birds so you don't have to remember Pike Perfect 1, Pike Perfect 2 etc... just glance at the Futaba screen and you will know which model is loaded. Now if only Futaba can make fast enoughthe 2.4g retrofitfor the standard MZ's it would be great. Did I mention I love the Futaba 14MZ? -Original Message-From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:44 PMTo: Albert E. Wedworth; soaring@airage.comSubject: Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to? Al,You had me right up tell you said "Stylus" I thought your parents raised you better Al :-) Now if you had said Futaba 9C... One. I would of made $1 and two, you would of shown how smart you are :- A Stylus up against a Futaba is kind of like Dos up against Mac Very Ugly :- "Craig. Long Live 72 :-) 42 years of using it and no problems yetThe financial crisis is kind of like people swimming nude in the ocean... You don't know how ugly it is tell the tides gone out... And then its very very ugly..." Warren Buffet"Albert E. Wedworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar inyour fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness ) Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying! Not wondering where to put the
RE: [RCSE] Seriously offended - A common occurrence
Heck what do you think I felt like when Gordy called my shiny new red X-Pro a pig in a poke. I was outraged. I was so offended I wanted to sue somebody for viloating my civil rights. How could anyone speak there mind like that in a county that allows such behavior. The only thing I could do to aleviate my stress was to hit the delete key. The constitution does not grant the right not to be offended. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ira, Per the comments below from the rest of the posting gang, I have to also agree with them. Emails often are hard to read the way the author writes them. Likewise, if you post, like I have, you will get the same reply. You will be slapped down. Turn the other cheek, and realize we are all have a bit of idiot in us all. Heaven knows, everyone will tell us so. In general, you have to be thick skinned (as noted below), you have to learn to use you delete key, and you have to know that is it just water rolling off a turtle's back. In many cases, those who reply only see what they want to see and read, and have their ways set in stone. I, too, feel the same many times. What all this does is make you sit back and not reply. That is not to say that sitting back is good, but it does make you realize that flying is alot better than being an armchair pilot. Then againyou could switch to a Woody class to get your LSF V wins when you strike out in the Open class. Woodies are for Old Timers LOL. Chris Adams Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Seriously offended From: Ira Faberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, February 28, 2008 9:37 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks guys. At least I am not alone in taking offense. It now remains to be seen how magnanimous a man Gordy is. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ira, Welcome to RCSE! Gordy Offends Everyone it's his job! Although I have to admit he gets to grow on you when you figure him out. LJ Oooh.. Now you can expect a private email from the G-dude himself correcting you of your ways. :) - Original Message - From: Ira Faberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring Soaring@airage.com, gordysoar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:48:13 -0700 Subject: [RCSE] Seriously offended Gordy- You said Come on you guys, get involved and share! and when I took your invitation to share, you call my carefully thought out work silly and wacky and claim it has nothing to do with reality? Your behavior is offensive to me. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Dedicated to Gordy!
I guess I don't understand the problems most people have with winter. Sure sunny weather is great but if its sunny all the time when do you build? Here in the PNW it was another great day. It rained all day so I got lots of building done before I headed out to the slope. It was fantastic. One of the best days I've had on the slope in a while. The seenery was beautiful, the conditions were near perfect with moderate winds and temps in the upper 20's. Tomorrow night I'm going back to the slope for some more turns. I just can't get enough of skiing. and you? -- Original message -- From: Richard Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear some what spoiled,At least we get to fly on one of our 60 to 200 acre sites sporting manicured 1-1/4 sod when the foot of snow goes away. I enjoy the building season and making up with the wife for being gone all summer long golfing and flying. not too spoiled, Richard - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: [RCSE] Dedicated to Gordy! The sun beaming through the window awakened me early this morning. A quick check on the computer confirmed that it was going to be another glorious day. So it was off to Poway. I stopped at the 7-11 and picked up some ice. I thought that if I stuck my hands in the ice, I could get close to the feeling of flying in Louisville or Chicago! It didn't work as the 77 degree temperature warmed my hands before I could launch. About three hours of air time in about 4 hours at the field with the Supra, Rogue 2.0, Blaster and E Blaster. I only had a high start as the winch motor is being refurbished, but the Supra and Rogue did not seem to care. Thermals were plentiful with plenty of 10 minute flights and a few good landings. Another beautiful day in Southern California. And Gordy? Don Richmond -- The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. ---BeginMessage--- Dear some what spoiled,At least we get to fly on one of our60 to 200 acre sites sportingmanicured 1-1/4"sod when the foot of snow goes away. I enjoy the building season and making up with the wife for being gone all summer long golfing and flying. not too spoiled, Richard - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: [RCSE] Dedicated to Gordy! The sun beaming through the window awakened me early this morning. A quick check on the computer confirmed that it was going to be another glorious day.So it was off to Poway. I stopped at the 7-11 and picked up some ice. I thought that if I stuck my hands in the ice, I could get close to the feeling of flying in Louisville or Chicago! It didn't work as the 77 degree temperature warmed my hands before I could launch. About three hours of air time in about 4 hours at the field with the Supra, Rogue 2.0, Blaster and E Blaster. I only had a high start as the winch motor is being refurbished, but the Supra and Rogue did not seem to care. Thermals were plentiful with plenty of 10 minute flights and a few good landings. Another beautiful day in Southern California. And Gordy? Don Richmond The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?
I'll take 2 -- Original message -- From: David Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentlemen, I would like your feedback on something I created last season in a bit of a whim. I have been competing at various TD tasks in the Northwest over the last 3 years. Over this time I have witnessed far too many launches where the pilot after the fact admitted that he/she did not turn on the aircraft. Needless to say most of the aircraft were lost or seriously damaged. So in search of a solution I went to a local electronics shop and asked a young guy if he could give me a hand designing a safety component that might help avoid this scenario. Basically we designed a switch with a small tilt sensor and some latching circuitry. The result is this: If you remember to turn on the plane the switch works as expected. The plane powers on and off as it would normally. If you turn OFF the plane and tilt the aircraft in the desired launch angle ( this is set by the pilot) the plane turns ITSELF on and stays on until the circuit is reset by disconnecting / interrupting the battery. The draw is tiny and the circuit and switch itself 1xx .25 or double the size of a typical 20 amp RC switch. I have tested the product in the lab and i know a shop that could likely get the size down to half its current size or close to the size of a standard switch This would of course cost some money out of pocket but I am not sure if the target market is too limited to bother creating this solution for. For the most part, the elite pilots I watch either don't even use a switch or are very disciplined in their launch methodology. The target market is more appropriately general pilots who may be approaching the more senior years as well as new pilots. What do you think people? At your local club have you seen anyone toss an un-powered glider to its death? Would a product like this be of value as a replacement for the standard on off switch for your more senior members or new eager soaring enthusiasts? David Webb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Tree story
I parked my TD ship in 3 smallish trees on the edge of our field (yes only one each). Needless to say those 3 scrub trees are no longer there. - Original Message - From: Dennis Hoyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tree story At the WMSS we have an annual award called the Arboreal Award. This prestigious award is granted to the the skilled pilot that manages to land in a tree the most times in a single year. The award is a beautiful but unfortunately dead bonsai tree with a brass sailplane stuck in it. We did take time to spray the branches green to give it that living feel. Here a photo of one of our members holding the coveted award. http://www.rcsoaring.org/images/pics/Dual-Soar-in_2005/pages/100_1803.htm Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tree story Tree / Trophy story that happened back around 1976 (best guess) and I was having a very unusual year with trees. Landing in a very tall tree at Lansing, MI. straining an Aquila through a tree at Chicago at speed. The flying surfaces stayed in the tree and the fuse came out alone. There were more as I couldn't go near a tree that summer without an altercation. The bottom line came in September in Detroit, at what was known as the SOAR / GDSHS Dual Meet. One day sponsored by GDSHS and the other day by SOAR and as SOAR was handing out their trophies, Dan Pruss called me up and presented me with a very unusual award. The trophy was a very ratty log of wood with an even rattier old, beat up hand axe sunk into the log, all spray painted gold. This was for capturing more trees in one season with a sailplane than anyone else. It was a very special award coming from Dan Pruss and the SOAR guys and I have lost it over the years but I still have a picture of the award presentation. OK, who has their best tree story. Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] What Am I building building this winter
I just finished an R2 led sled for a friend and have a new R3 half built for me. Also slated is a 3M fox that needs a rebuild as well as a new La Fish for another friend. Then there is the new ridge runner for the combat season as well as my new BD5 shot kit. So many planes so little time. -- Original message -- From: Stan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grand Esprit, best looking nostalgia plane out there. Stan ---BeginMessage--- Grand Esprit, best looking nostalgia plane out there.Stan ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Re: Re: HKM's High End
I saw the one at this years Visalia. I think I looked like any guy staring at the most beautifull girl in the world. -- Original message -- From: gliding Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all I first saw her before she had a name, Holland Glide 2006. I was taken away by Dieter's build quality (this was the first one out of the mold) and also how sweet she looked (Yes I like the toothpick size fuse with wings look! She looked like she could hide amoung a flock of F3B birds) and how she flew(maybe it was just Dieter on the sticks). A couple of weeks later when I cought up with Dieter and Daniel in Munster and were given a fly of her and was very pleased with her performance. I just hope the that the builder (its not Dieter, I know that) can build them just as light and stiff as the model I saw. If they do, this will be one hot model! Cheers Thomas -- gliding Oz gliding Oz's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=128538 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=785198 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Which JR 3421- Metal or nylon gear ?
The nylon gears work great in a vibration rich environment like heli's. This is where the SA excels. In a heli the metal gears wear quickly due to the vibration. Our sailplanes have no vibration and the metal gears should last a long time. -- Original message -- From: TG Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's probably over kill but I use metal in EVERYTHING regardless of its place on the plane. When your dealing with an airframe that costs $1200, $1500, $1800+ the difference cost in the servo is miniscule. Even on my built up stuff I have far too much time into them to have an equipment failure take it out. If I smash stuff thats one thing, but if I scimp on a control surface controller and thats what causes the failure(prior experience sadly enough when I was flying power) thats much harder to live with. Subject: RE: [RCSE] Which JR 3421- Metal or nylon gear ? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:55:54 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Steve, Definitely go with the Metal Gear. Thanks, JD From: Steve Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:36 PM To: RCSoaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] Which JR 3421- Metal or nylon gear ? Which JR 3421 should I use on flaps and elevator for a Pike Perfect, the metal (DS 3421) or nylon gear (DS 3421 SA) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ---BeginMessage--- It's probably over kill but I use metal in EVERYTHING regardless of its place on the plane. When your dealing with an airframe that costs $1200, $1500, $1800+ the difference cost in the servo is miniscule. Even on mybuilt up stuff I have far too much time into them to have an equipment failure take it out. If I smash stuff thats one thing, but if I scimp on a control surface controller and thats what causes the failure(prior experience sadly enough when I was flying power) thats much harder to live with. Subject: RE: [RCSE] Which JR 3421- Metal or nylon gear ? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:55:54 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Steve, Definitely go with the Metal Gear. Thanks, JD From: Steve Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:36 PM To: RCSoaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] Which JR 3421- Metal or nylon gear ? Which JR 3421 should I use on flaps and elevator for a Pike Perfect, the metal (DS 3421) or nylon gear (DS 3421 SA) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text formatConnect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now! ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???
Now if Futaba would just provide the superior sailplane programming the JR 9303 has I would consider switching. JR was the first to bring SS to the market and Futaba has some catch up to do. -- Original message -- From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm just curious as to why all the talk is about the JR 2.4 system? From everything I have read, the Futaba 2.4 is the only one to use true spread spectrum and is a much better system that the JR... Like I said I'm just curios. So flame away :-) Craig ---BeginMessage--- I'm just curious as to why all the talk is about the JR 2.4 system? From everything I have read, the Futaba 2.4 is the only one to use true spread spectrum and is a much better system that the JR...Like I said "I'm just curios." So flame away :-)Craig---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)
If you bought a transmitter one year earlier you would have gotten the Futaba 8ua you would not be flying because you would not be able to program it. - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, . Thanks :-) I just want to thank everyone for the very thoughtful and informative post. I was expecting a lot of flames :-) hehe Just a little background... I left Soaring in 1979 after moving to LA to work in the Film Industry. I took my trusty Kraft 4ch transmitter and my Super Esprit, White Trash and Todi to Pearce collage in the Valley and watched some guys ( Probably Joe, and a few other of U hot shots Launching their home made Carbon rockets to the moon... I asked Hay were can you buy one of those gliders They all laughed at me and said You can't, you have to make them .. Oh shit :-( I went home that day and put my planes in the closet never to fly again Oh ya... My cars engine froze up on the way home to Hollywood too.. So all in all it was a very bad day. In 1999 I was back in Sac town searching the web and somehow found DLG's. WOW I was hooked... More bang for your buck !!! U bet ya... Now I had to buy a new radio.. I went to the local hobby shop and bought a Airtronics Stylus Radio Could I program by myself ?? Hell No... Then after some time I traded that for a brand new JR 10x... Could I program it??? Hell No I still have it if anyone want to make me an offer? Never used once in 4 years.. Then I went and looked at a Futaba 9c... Within 5 min I could program it. It was so so simple, just like my Apple 2 and my very first Mackintosh. I think you will notice a lot of newcomer to the hobby chose Futaba for this reason as well. So I have been flying Futaba ever since Maybe I'm missing something that I don't know about.. But time after time I see people out at the local field with Radio issues, Programing issues, and it's never been a Futaba. So what ever I might be missing, I don't miss :-))) As far as Spread Spectrum systems. From purely an engineering point of view, the Futaba system is by far more reliable.. Sure the JR system might work just fine. Although we have already heard reports of problems with satellite receivers... But true Spread Spectrum is the only way to go and I would not buy any 2.4 system that doesn't have it Just my two cents :-) Craig
Re: [RCSE] I pity the guy, don't have a Plane Perch!
Here is a link to some pics of the Plane Perch http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636835#post6855957 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [RCSE] I pity the guy, don't have a Plane Perch! I've raved about them in the past when they were the Super Stand, but Tor Burkhart picked up the stick and made them out of real aircraft ply wood. I carry mine with me all over the world, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who'd say they saw me putting a plane together on the ground. Tor makes the stand only, it has a 1/4x20 insert in the bottom for a camera tripod or home made pipe stake. I just talked to Tor and he has some on hand for anyone wanting to stand up for a change. Comes apart and the pieces fit in the bottom of you Sportube. $69 shipped, I know crazy cheap but that's what it is. Wait and wail. 206 522 0227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got questions about it? Ask Tor. Gordy -- Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.
Re: [RCSE] I pity the guy, don't have a Plane Perch!
Here is a link to some pictures and Info on how to order http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636835#post6855957 -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've raved about them in the past when they were the Super Stand, but Tor Burkhart picked up the stick and made them out of real aircraft ply wood. I carry mine with me all over the world, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who'd say they saw me putting a plane together on the ground. Tor makes the stand only, it has a 1/4x20 insert in the bottom for a camera tripod or home made pipe stake. I just talked to Tor and he has some on hand for anyone wanting to stand up for a change. Comes apart and the pieces fit in the bottom of you Sportube. $69 shipped, I know crazy cheap but that's what it is. Wait and wail. 206 522 0227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Got questions about it? Ask Tor. Gordy **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ---BeginMessage--- I've raved about them in the past when they were the Super Stand, but Tor Burkhart picked up the stick and made them out of real aircraft ply wood. I carry mine with me all over the world, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who'd say they saw me putting a plane together on the ground. Tor makes the stand only, it has a 1/4x20 insert in the bottom for a camera tripod or home made pipe stake. I just talked to Tor and he has some on hand for anyone wanting to stand up for a change. Comes apart and the pieces fit in the bottom of you Sportube. $69 shipped, I know crazy cheap but that's what it is. Wait and wail. 206 522 0227 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got questions about it? Ask Tor. GordyCheck out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Full size slope/ridge ships
The strength of the glider is not what's important, its the G force that cannot be duplicated by full scale ships. If you were to scale up the aerobatic abilities of our gliders to full scale the pilots would be reduced to a small pile of goo in the back of the canopy. You can scale everything except the air molecule. Otherwise the Fox and the H101 Salto are full aerobatic gliders. - Original Message - From: Kevin Andersen To: RCSE Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: [RCSE] Full size slope/ridge ships Hey guys! Anyone know of any full-size gliders that can handle the rigors of full on aerobatics like what we put our slope ships through? How about DS? Thanks Kevin Andersen
Re: [RCSE] RE: Supra or Onyx JW
I helped a guy do the final setup of a Shadow Thursday before Visalia. His first flght was Friday. I timed for him Saturday and Sunday. He is a good pilot but has not had a lot of stick time in the last year +. He finished 14th with his new Shadow. As impressive as the Shadow is I still want a 2.4 GH carbon lite Supra. Is it $400.00 better? IMHO Not for AMA TD. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, The Supra and Onyx are totally different planes. If its just for California conditions (AMA TD), the Onyx is fine. The Supra is a better plane if you're going to demand some degree of performance (usually not required for Calif AMA TD) and it comes at a price. If it were me, I'd seriously take a look at the Shadow. I'm not going to get into the details, but Tom Copp at Composite Specialties will tell you more about it. He's pretty sharp at explaining the attributes of various models and matching them to a pilots abilities. Worth a call if you're gonna spend that kind of money. www.f3x.com Ben Clerx Mike Clancy wrote: I'm shopping for a new TD ship. Have settled on either a Supra or an Onyx JW. California conditions. Bad left eye makes the Onyx a probable choice--easier to see. Also, which Supra?? Comments appreciated. Mike Clancy ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ---BeginMessage--- Hi Mike, The Supra and Onyx are totally different planes. If its just for California conditions (AMA TD), the Onyx is fine. The Supra is a better plane if you're going to demand some degree of performance (usually not required for Calif AMA TD) and it comes at a price. If it were me, I'd seriously take a look at the Shadow. I'm not going to get into the details, but Tom Copp at Composite Specialties will tell you more about it. He's pretty sharp at explaining the attributes of various models and matching them to a pilots abilities. Worth a call if you're gonna spend that kind of money. www.f3x.com Ben Clerx Mike Clancy wrote: I'm shopping for a new TD ship. Have settled on either a Supra or an Onyx JW. California conditions. Bad left eye makes the Onyx a probable choice--easier to see. Also, which Supra?? Comments appreciated. Mike Clancy** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ---End Message---
