[RCSE] Sinha Deturbulators
Been reading about them for years, with initial skepticism, but growing excitement the past year or so. This months SOARING has them featured in Bill Collum's column, soaring tech, June 2008 page 19-22 Heady stuff! I'm sure many here are aware already, and hopefully some are already testing somewhere... or maybe some already know why this isn't gonna work... JR www.roenation.com More online: http://sinhatech.com/
[RCSE] Some (very) short glider videos (OT-1:1)
The end of a faithful ASW-20, N31AP "OD"http://www.martialartsacademy.org/./media/mp_gliderscum_4.asxMore at www.gliderscum.com A fine mid-winter soaring day in Southern California:http://www.martialartsacademy.org/./media/mp_zr_5.asxMore at www.martialartsacademy.org/zr.htmEnjoy, take care, see some of you at Phoenix next month...John Roe www.roenation.com
Re: [RCSE] Re: New DS world records
With any luck i will have it up on www.mccomposites.com before too long. As you can imagine Brian has been on the phone a few times. Must feel good to be *THE MAN* when it comes to "DS Worthy" gliders... john roe www.roenation.com
Re: [RCSE] Visalia Fall Festival Scores posted...
After a brief analysis... Who is that "Joe" guy who just barely missed winning all three classes? One advantage of getting older is that you can *finally* place higher than your age...Way to go Bob Lenard! Wish I had made it up there... John Roe www.roenation.com
Re: [RCSE] I made a glider video
Thanks John. Here is a good example of a flight documented entirely with datalogger info displayed in 3D: http://www.martialartsacademy.org/300k.htm I took no pictures on that particular flight, did not even bring a camera...but you can still get a good sense of the flight. John Roe www.roenation.com
[RCSE] I made a glider video
Not exactly up to Paul's standards. Not models. But you might enjoy it... http://www.martialartsacademy.org/./media/mp_zr_3.asx John Roe www.roenation.com
Re: [RCSE] mono soaking
you got it!
Re: [RCSE] mono soaking
back in the stone age it was water + surfactant (we used downey) Gorgon thought "yak jiz" was the ideal substance, but john
Re: [RCSE] Visalia Fall Fest Accomadations warning
Thanks. I'm gonna be there, gonna sleep on the field. john www.roenation.com
RE: [RCSE] Why are so many gays unsubscribing?
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[RCSE] Final Glide, Mark Navarre
Mark Navarre died Sunday when his ASW-20 impacted terrain on the white mountains. He was one of my best friends, and we had the best times ever flying both full scale and R/C gliders together. Sucks. john Quietman John Roe www.roenation.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
Re: [RCSE] Dawn Flight video
I only have a ratty old copy-of-a-copy, and would love a DVD as well, so CC me please... John Roe __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [RCSE] Schweizer Build Threads
Nice website, very cool. You need to model the best flying Schweizer of all time, the 1-34 of course. ;-) quietman SGS 1-34 N7626 "ZR" www.martialartsacademy.org/zr.htm __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[RCSE] Here's a fun thread on a full-scale site
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/browse_frm/thread/51ae4fc78352a9b4?scoring=d Almost as cool as a DS thread... :-) John Roe www.roenation.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: [RCSE] F3B team selection
Way to go Gordon! Man I gotta dust off a few models and get out there again, especially as I have procreated myself out of full-scale etc. John the jealous... "Dad's Home" http://img.4chan.org/f/src/195918_dad_s_home_2.swf __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [RCSE] Who is Tappdog?
I dunno. I would guess he participates in either Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or mixed martial arts, or both, by his handle. Maybe check out the posters on the "fight boards" quietman Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today
Re: [RCSE] Classic Quotes
There are two kinds of models, ones that have crashed and ones that are gonna crash john roe Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
RE: [RCSE] If you're flyin' today...plus slipping thermal turns
I did a bit (3.5 hours) of flying today out in Elsinore, Ca. I found myself low (600 feet) patiently working a tiny 100 fpm thermal until it built up enough to get me away again. I really focused on slow(ish) tight slightly slipped turns, and on keeping my head on the head rest, as the G-loading was starting to bug me after about 10 minutes of sustained 45* bank. It worked, and I got complimented on an unlikely-looking "save" http://www.martialartsacademy.org/November8th2003.htm John Roe "ZR" Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
[RCSE] World record soaring video...
If you would like to see the world-record breaking video of the Extreme going 212 mph, and then 215 mph, you need to follow a new link at: http://www.mccomposites.com The band-width demands were too great, so the old link was broken and the new one formed. The old video was 10 meg, the new one is six, but it is streamed so you shouldn't have to wait too long (you don't still have dial up do you?) Plus the videographer is shilling his wares on the page. But hey what do you want? Building and filming the ultimate _expression_ of R/C soaring to date costs money... ;-) John Roe ...none for me...fishing and flying full-scale http://www.martialartsacademy.org/quietmanfish.htm Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
[RCSE] Extreme DS
Doug Reel and Kyle Paulson both joined the 190mph+ DS club at Vincent today. They were flying two new 2meter molded DS Extremes, and recording speeds with a radar gun. They both recorded top speeds of 192,andDoug was "cruising" in the high 180's while talking about the servos etc. and the 100" exxtreme he has on order. They were flying unballasted at a 22 oz wing loading and the wind was 20 mph.They found a line that produced much higher speeds, but could not get the radar gun to record it, so they were obliged to fly closer and slower, but still managed repeated high 180's and low 190's to 192. Doug says that the Extreme is the most solid feeling plane he has ever flown DS with, and that it was "easy." Neither plane suffered any damage from the speed session, although one flap horn became loosened on one plane. These planes should be good for a lot more, just use good servos and linkages! Considering that conditions were nothing special, when they can get a better angle or a better radar gun 200 mph and more should soon become routine. I'm very happy for Brian, since he has really busted his butt on this project, and has come up with a plane that is just "born" to do this. ...Of course with a lot of help from Joe Wurts, and Brian is the first to credit Joe's airfoils and planforms. They are the best. The 100" CNC version should be insane... John Roe McComposites website: http://www.mccomposites.com Standard disclaimer: I don't get nuthin' from Brian/McComposites. Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
[RCSE] Funny aviation audio
This is pretty good. The pro pilots on this board have most likely already heard it... http://www.whoohoo.net/pilot/index.htm Very cool, enjoy JR. A person is a person, no matter how small .Horton hears a who (Dr. Suess) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] molded psyko nose cone
Sam, what the hell did you DO to my Psyko? JR. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Bob Lenard please contact me
Yah Bob landed his cumpulsion on Alicia Parkway in front of a car...crunch! jR. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] This is sorta cool...
Mebbe some of you scale aerotow guys could do this as well at Visalia. Or we could do it full-scale, I'll drive if you'll jump...;-) http://alto.nethit.fi/kuvat/ JR. The beatings will continue until morale improves John Roe www.martialartsacademy.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Best TD plane?
I would tell you but this thread comes up so often i already have. Search the archives. J.R. Grumpy in Michigan after reading the F3J world report. I'll be here till wednesday, any slopers or flat-landers wanna let me wreck a plane? Clare area, or will travel... = John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters www.MartialArtsAcademy.org __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sliders, Sky-diver near-miss
http://www.dropzone.com/features/Skydiverinnearmisswithsl.shtml Slider for camber is good. Sliding, not digital, elevator trim equally good and correct, for the same reasons. Thus sayeth the Roe. John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free unlimited access
[RCSE] Want to buy a used Lap Top
Sorry to waste band width, but most of us glider guys are pretty handy with computers, except me... I just dropped my laptop in the parking lot at work, I think it's dead. So does anyone have a used one for sale, or a specific recommendation on where to get a very inexpensive used one on the net or at an actual store...in orange county california? My old one was a Toshiba Satellite Pro 425 CDT and was able to do most of what I needed... I would rather not go through ebay, and I need one pretty soon... Thanks for any help!John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup
Re: [RCSE] Re: Memorial day Massacre
Ron Quintana writes: Valbuena will get his in the end, That is my fervant hope, perhaps from a cell-mate in prison. JR.Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
[RCSE] Memorial day Massacre
Some of you may remember the Easter Week Massacre at Laguna Niguel. That was when a certain person who doesn't like R/C gliders allegedly was shooting the planes with an air-rifle and a wrist rocket. Despite the fact that he is now being to treated to a party by the Superior Court of California he is now apparently up to more shennanigans. Even though I had just got my invitation to his party, a very nice blue one labelled "SUBPEONA-CRIMINAL" with the theme being "The People of The State of California, Plaintiff VS. Valbuena, Stephen," he still felt the need for more fun and games. Must be his patriotic spirit. Hisnew partygame at the slope is "shoot down the gliders with spurious RF signals." Today we had numerous unexplained obvious interference caused crashes on several frequencies. A phone call was made. A scanner was brought out. Yep, VERY strong signal on latest frequency to be affected, no TX's on. No immediate action by us, waited for more data. Crash, Crash. Police called, more fun. If this continues it will be the People of the United States of America VS. Moron, Psychotic. I wonder if he realizes that deliberate destruction of property and endangering of persons by interfering with FCC controlled airwaves is a FEDERAL offense, and possibly a felony. Doubt it. Be aware that if you fly at the LN site you need a cel phone to call the police with as well as your planes and sunscreen. Hopefully this will be resolved quickly. JR.Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
[RCSE] For RF Sailplane pilots
I was looking at other stuff when I came across this talking vario with available factory made total energy probe system. It is listed as being for "RF Sailplanes." Cute. http://www.renschler.de/english.htm JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
Re: [RCSE] DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter
Joedy writes: Would anyone care to most their feedback, building and flying experiences with DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter glider? A lot of fun on the slope, flys suprising well in suprisingly little lift. Must be flown like most large scale planes, smoothly and with care to maintain airspeed and energy. A well-flown one in decent lift can put on quite a show of graceful linked aerobatics, much the same as a glass model would. Care must be exercised on winch launch, as the wings and airframe are somewhat flexible compared to glass. Flutter or other odd behavior can occur. Same with prolonged, steep dives. It aerotows well, and thermals well, when well flown. Building one is straightforward, but having prior EPP experience would be a very big help. It is more work then you would expect, not hard, just a lot of sanding and shaping to do one right. An enormous plus is it's durability. It can only be compared to other EPP planes, and is able to survive in the foamy wing cluttered environment found on many slopes nowadays. JR. John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
[RCSE] Real slope combat (the Easter Week Massacre)
Apparently inspired by events in the middle east and New York a local homeowner in Laguna Niguel has redefined slope combat for us. He set himself up with a high-powered air rifle and a good vantage point for sniping (his back yard), and started banging away at our planes. Due to his location and the wind we didn't figure out what was going on until three of our planes had had holes blasted through them. A particularly solid hit on a JW pulled the elevon partially off and caused it to crash down the hill. My Wizard merely had a nice chunk of foam and skin blown out of the middle of one wing and an Obechi-covered Hobby People Euro-thingy had the basswood leading edge shattered by a round that passed through the wind at an angle, entering the bottom about an inch behind the LE and exiting through it. After we spotted the shooter, he acknowledged us by wanging a round off the top of our frequency board shelter. At this point we landed, moved off to a safe distance and dialed 9-11. Three cop cars arrived, and everyone got to talk to the police. If anything interesting evolves from all this I'll let you all know. In the meantime if you fly at the Laguna Niguel slope be aware that there is a more than slightly unstable dude, about 6' 2" tall and 240 pounds (big-belly) with longish black hair and a SERIOUS dislike for glider guys. He lives in/shoots from the house immediately to the south of the park overlooking the slope. John Roe, veteran of the Easter-Week massacre.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax
[RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode
Craig admits: I'm an in-flight switch flipper (camber, rudder mix on/off,reflex) and have not had a problem. One can learn to remember,enabling landing mode and confirming rudder mix on is part of mycheck at the abeam point of my approach. Evil advice, somedayyou WILL have a problem.Sooner rather than later ifyou ever get interested in F3x style competitions, or any flying where you are forced to deal with wind, other planes, desperate pop-off gambles, etc. etc. etc. etc. You WILL screw it up! Any human being would. Switches are bad. We can all train ourselves to do most anything at the same time-most of the timeif we have to, but it's just not playing the percentages. And there is no reason to not equip yourself with the "right stuff," if you are serious. JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover
Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode
Rusty writes: Just try not to remember that the next time you're on a commercial flight on final!! :) So very true, and the number 1 priority for airlines all the way down to recreational pilots is and has been for years to reduce the workload on the pilot. Nearly all accidents in aviation are due to pilot error in whole or in part. Anything which reduces the things you need to consciously attend to when flying, be it models or full-scale will pay-off sooner or later... JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover
[RCSE] Off-topic don't read, unless you are a computer weenie.
Help me. I just received a gift of an old toshiba satellite pro 425cdt laptop. I got it to use in the field for soaring, including downloading flight logs from gps receivers installed in either full-scale planes or models so I guess this post is not completely off-topic. Here's the problem. Unit WAS working perfectrly, until I loaded a copy of doomII from 1994. The install program asked me if i wanted to change to "Direct X" i said yes and now my display is screwed up. I can only get a Letter-box and only in 16 colors, and i had to go to safe mode to even do that. How canI get back to where I was, with it working perfectly? JR. John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings!
Re: [RCSE] Flying in and around Newport Beach, CA
Greg- I'm in Michigan, but what you should do is call 949-248-2778 and get directions to the Laguna Niguel slope club from Dave Sanders. There is also a possiblility of slope-ing the back bay if the winds right and you can get in there... John Roe = Prof. J. Roe Laguna Hills, Ca When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Simulated Air - Need some input
"Clarkson, Tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to develop some simulation code for HL gliders. My hope is tomodel some real world contest conditions. I hope to uncover which cl's arethe most important to optimize in an airfoil design. However, I don't have agood feel for the "rising" velocity of strong and week thermals or the sameinfo for sink. Does anyone have any real data on this? Tom- Go to www.ssa.org and look for back issues on-line of "soaring".What you wanthas been done, andI guess fairly accurately. I remember reading and looking at the 3D computer models of convective lift about a year ago. A couple of problems might be getting the actual code parameters, but the author might be willing to help. The other problem is that the studies available don't really modelthe liftwe fly in with HLG's. Technically we utilize "surface layer plumes" for the most part, not what the "big boys" consider thermals. I'm not sure how much it matters, maybe not at all to just measure the effects of delta airmass on CL. You also might try and contact Scott Jenkins (aka Dr. Wave) he is a fluid dynamics expert who teaches at San Diego State, and is a rabid soaring enthusiast. Find him by calling or emailing www.skysailing.com , that's where he hangs out. He is a great guy, and very helpful.Prof. J. RoeLaguna Hills, Ca When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. Yahoo! by Phone.
Re: [RCSE] What you can do now.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Call for Support of our National Guard and Reserve Forces Families - September 2001snipThese are small but real steps you can take to help your community and country.Reach out, touch lives, and make a difference. John- Thank you for posting this. By far the best and most important use of an otherwise utterly frivolous and often banal and self-absorbed list such as this, is the dissemination of important and meaningful information such as your post. Thanks again I intend to pass along and act upon your message. John Roe, USA p.s. Any Californians from the Oakland/Berkelydistrict RECALL that treasonous bitch, Barbara Hill...the ONLY member of the entire US Congress to vote against responding to the attack on New York and the Pentagon and the defeated attack on the Capitol. Of course that's par for the course for that sick part of California...Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information in Yahoo! News.
Re: [RCSE] Another full-scale story by John Roe...(hit delete?)
P Pnbsp; BIDouglas Turner lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/I/B wrote: BLOCKQUOTE style=PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid META content=MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE DIVFONT face=Arial size=2gt;John,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Just so you know, rec.aviation.soaring is another good place to share your full-scale gt;flying stories.nbsp; nbsp; /FONT/DIV DIVgt;/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2gt;Sincerely,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2gt;Doug Turnernbsp; 7B/FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE style=PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #00 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px PThanks Doug, I'm glad you enjoyed the story, I've received more great feedback/P Pand thanks from it than just about anything I've ever posted, so many guys love/P Pto hear about soaring full scale.nbsp; I will check out posting it to the other soaring/P Pexchange ;-)./P PTHANKS to all!/P Pnbsp;/P/BLOCKQUOTE/BLOCKQUOTE __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Places to live and Soar (Texiz humor)
This link goes to the currently unfolding cartoon of the adventures of Pez D. Spensor, Sailplane Racer in Uvalde Texiz. http://www.imdata.com/pezpage1.htmlProf. J. RoeLaguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org www.ScCollege.org/mroe I exist in the hope that ...I may stir up a race of rebels who shall refuse to be confined to limited Dimensionality."Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger.
[RCSE] The Pro's quick CG test...
If anyone is curious as to what Joe Wurts, Daryl Perkins, et all will commonly do to "check" the CG of a plane when you hand them the Transmitter; it's this... They will trim straight and level at some reasonable "floaty" speed, then roll inverted. If the plane continues happily or climbs/descends onlyslighty, then it's close to where it "should" be. If it noticably dives/speeds up then it's too far forward. This may only work best with performance oriented designs which have little or no decaloge, or full-flying stabs. I'm speculating because I've never tried this test with a trainer. None of the "best" guys that I fly with a lot pay much attention to this or any other "test" they simply play with the CG till the plane is "right". "Right" by the way can change from flight to flight depending on the task. For example slope racing can benefit from an extreme back CG because the plane is in close in where you can see it well and needs to turn a lot. F3B distance on the other hand can be problematic for back CG's as the plane may be a mile away while you are trying to fly it accurately. Even worse distance wiseis F3J. However for thermal events the CG can be farther forward without making you much less competitve,a back CG isjust not as important to the task. John Roe Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger.
Re: [RCSE] F3b worlds...and scoring
Remember that Gavin got a 100 point penalty as well, which will be deducted AFTER the throw outs :-(... John Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger.
[RCSE] Re: Glide Polars
This is an EXCELLENT visual tool to help make Blaine's math come to life while sitting in the comfort of your computer chair! No math needed, just click and watch the animation. Then re-read Blaine's equations he so kindly posted and see them come alive. http://home.att.net/~jdburch/polar.htm I would be so bold to say that for most pilots I observe at contests, really getting a feel for this is the single most important thing they could do to be more consistant in making thier times, especially on difficult days, such as windy ones. John Roe ZR = Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org In God we trust ...the official motto of the United States. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Save Speedvision petition.
Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: Speedvision NASCAR programming hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/svsn/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, John Roe = Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org In God we trust ...the official motto of the United States. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] looking for Brian McClean
--- D Hauch/ D Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a number or a e-mail address for Brian? Thanks, Dave email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work Phone: 541-383-5179 = Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Moral relativism, feet firmly planted in mid-air. ...Greg Koukl, www.str.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Full Scale Opportunity
Mike writes: Want to see some real glass sailplanes? Or maybe a real manly piece of heavy metal, or piece of something... ...I might tow up my Schweizer 1-34, if I'm feeling thirsty for pain, and if Dave Sanders finishes my minor threat nose art (a sheep with teeth bared)...hey great sports class handicap, 1.31!!! ...or maybe I'll just tag along with OD, better known as Gliderscum, and crew for him a day or two... Depends on how sickly my kids are this weekend, (3 for 3 right now, and my wife) Any way, good luck to Mike, Paul and Mark! John Roe SGS 1-34 ZR = Professor John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Truth is that which man discovers, not that which he creates. John Roe __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Mantis Thread
At the risk of interupting the fascinating threads on what a particular airplane looks like, I would like to give a briefing on my impressions of the Mantis. I have flown two examples, and would classify them as "in the ballpark" for US TD competition. You could certainly win a local regional or the NATS with one, given ordinary conditions and contest structure. After flying them, however I would not consider one for myself, and can guarantee you that you won't see any of the "name" pilots flying one. The tail booms flex when attempting a hard launch, the geometry is not optimal, and the planform is not optimized, plus they are BAGGED for heavens sake! The planform/geometry problems were really apparent when I tested a Mantis side-by-side with my #2 Psyko, turning circles at low altitude in light lift. The mantis does not turn as efficiently*. *I have to say, in defense of the Mantis, that the two i have flown were not set up to what I would consider even close to "optimal". There are many readily available planes on the market with superior performance, from the Emerald, to the Hera/Artemis/Stratos style planes, to what I still fly, the Psyko. These are simply MY OPINIONS AND MY IMPRESSIONS. YOU should go do whatever the hell you want, unless of course you would like your name on a T-shirt someday. John Roe "I'll be back" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Cool aviation software fun stuff
Hi Jim, Cool site John, tnx. You're welcome. How's the glider ticket coming? Got my private pilot's license last November, am working on my commercial license, should be done by the middle of summer. Just about to put down a deposit on a 304CZ, 15 meter class plane, gotta get the wifey to buy in on the deal, however. She's having difficulty with the idea of me playing with "toys" that cost nearly $50 grand. Go figure. John. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3J Penetration Comparison
Ronald writes: Should I get the time to cross 100' in calm wind? Get the time to cross with the least altitude lost. Let's say the model loses 5 feet in 100 at 25 mph. that would be: 20:1 Lift/Drag (L/D) @ 25 mph (best L/D speed) The equation to figure out how far you can go (penetrate) into a headwind is: (L/D)*(LDspeed - headwind speed) -- = actual L/D ( L/D speed) Actual L/D is the models glideslope into a given wind. You want the biggest number you can get. Wing loading will raise the best L/D speed, so try to test models at similar wing loadings. You want a model with a high best L/D speed at the lightest wing loading, which would indicate that the model will be less sensitive to wind effects at a given loading. (play with the above equation to get a feel for this. Beware selecting a model based primarily on optimizing one variable. Unless of course it launches the highest. I would love to see some numbers on this! John Roe __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Aerotowing advice
Chris Gregg writes: but trouble on the downwind leg. Remember to the plane(s) there is no such thing as an "upwind" or "downwind" leg. The towpilot is most likely slowing the plane down on the downwind leg, since from a ground-speed perspective the plane appears to speed up when travelling down-wind. Let it! It has to! lider would go low behind the owplane and start whipping from side to side. That would be the wake. Ether climb above it or drop below it, or even fly out to the sides. The side to side weave is a classic "figure eight" caused by bouncing from one tip vortice to the other, most likely. With practice it is possible to "box" the wake, flying all ther way around it, pull up through it or drop down through it at will. Just don't stay in it. towplane would stall and See first paragraph. Fly faster. Hope this helps! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3F race july 29th at Laguna Niguel
Here are the results of the F3F race at Laguna Niguel. Conditions weren't great, as the times will attest, but other than a 1/2 hour intermission while we waited for some sort of atmospheric system to go inland, the wind was reasonably consistant. It was fairly cool, and MUCH nicer than the searing conditions inland. We were able to fly 4 rounds with 16 pilots, and had no problems to speak of. Very smooth. I had never CD'd anything before, so I didn't fly, as I anticipated having to be available for "stuff" during the contest. Turns out I could have flown, no problemo. GREAT bunch of guys, some really polished flying, and generally lots of fun. I will be hosting more, and I am thinking that there is real potential in F3F to resurrect slope-racing on the west coast. ..I know today when I went out, there was a bigger than usual bunch, and the "buzz" was all "let's do it again" , "let's practice" etc. etc. Conditions dictated using TD or very light F3F ships, planes like the Hera or my Psyko were ideal. A large variety of planes were flown, and everyone had fun, regardless. Placings, four rounds with no throw-out: 1. Brian Buass 3834.8 Hera/Artemis 2. Larry Jolly 3778.5 Hera/Artemis 3. Jonathan Albert 3634.0 Vindicator 4. Tom Copp3602.1 a 2meter 5. Ken Dillon 3566.0 Hera? 6. Chris Wynaught 3476.7 Vindicator 7. Dan Field 3328.9 Thermal plane 8. Nathan Woods3251.5 Hera? 9. Scott Southall 3215.2 CR Raider 10. Duane Laine 3200.9 Molded F3B Eagle 11. Frank Cavasos 3115.7 no idea 12. Scott Magnar3000.2 Vindicator 13. Dave Sanders2933.4 DAW EPP Ka-6, 1/4 scale 14. Bobby Wilson2706.9 Modified multiplex thingy 15. Ian Sanders 1936Patton EPP Be5a? 30" fighter 16. Bob Lenard 786.1 Apex II In spite of the light lift, several pilots managed to whack the hill, and/or crack up thier planes landing them. This was the cause of some of the sub-3000 scores, either by getting a zero flight (no throw-outs!) or forcing a switch to back-up planes or withdrawal. Fast time of the day was Larry Jolly, with a "blistering" 57 second run. Most all of the flights were in the 60-80 second range. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org You should never be in company that you wouldn't want to die with. ---Freman Proverb __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
