Re: [RCSE] What the heck???

2008-08-24 Thread Rob Davis
But who exactly will be his running mate?  That ought to be interesting!

Rob

2008/8/24 Dan Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [RCSE] Re: External DC power Question

2008-08-22 Thread Rob Davis
I found a 20A PS off rcuniverse for $60.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=422190

Rob

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:07PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 |I know the Triton expects to see something like a 12 volt car
 |battery, so can I/ how would I go about using this power supply
 without
 |frying the Triton?

 If you're worried about futzing around, then I'd just skip that PS and
 get a 12v one.

 I picked up a PS with the same shape/form factor for about the same
 price a few years ago on Ebay and it was 12 volts.  It had a pot that
 would fine tune the voltage, but I doubt it could drop it by 50%.  (It
 also put out the same power -- they halved the voltage, and doubled
 the amperage.)

 Ebay seems to have lots of similar power supplies that do 12v, but the
 price seems to have gone up, and many are in Hong Kong ...

 |I have a stack of like five old computer power supplies on the bench,
 I
 |had thought about getting one of them to work for this using the
 |Internet directions but don't have the time/inclination to futz
 around.

 It's probably less futzing than modifying a 24v PS to be 12v anyways ...

 |This one is $24 and that's about half what the local Radio Scrap store
 |would charge for something similar.

 Radio Shack is easily beaten.  Though even $50 at RS for a 6A PS
 seems a bit cheap.

 If there's a local ham radio swap meet, they're good places to look
 for this sort of thing.  Or go down to Goodwill, and find a laptop or
 printer power brick that emits 12 volts.

 The Triton can use up to 13 amps, but unless you charge large NiCd or
 NiMH packs (5 amps, 20 cells, that sort of stuff) you'll never go
 anywhere near that limit, and can do with a much smaller power supply.
 Six amps will probably handle most people just fine, for example.

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Re: [RCSE] AC/DC

2008-06-02 Thread Rob Davis
However, the Alpha has amperage limitations that may make charging
simultaneously slower than other chargers that can charge one pack at a
time.  The friend who replaced his Alpha got this charger - Thunder Power
TP610C -  1 to 6-Cell LiPo and A123 cells, 14 NiCd/MH cells and 6-12V Pb, it
can charge, Balance, discharge and cycle batteries and report back full
data. It is capable of up to 10 amps (80 watts total) for charging.  It's a
charger capable of charging anything out there today.

Rob



On 6/2/08, JAMES EALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helloo Peter:

 You can not beat the ALPHA 4 (charger/discharger/maintainance)

 BTWE:

 120AC or 12 DC

 1- 20+ cells

 wet cells

 NiCd or metal hydride  not Lithiums

 9 functions

 1 - 4 FOUR batteries at one time 4 TX or 3 TX and 1 RX, or 2 TX and 2 RX,
 etc.

 Jim Ealy
 Education by Demonstration





Re: [RCSE] 2.4

2008-05-29 Thread Rob Davis
If Futaba's system is THE 2.4 system to have why isn't there support for the
other brands?  I think JR / Spektrum / Horizon have done a good job in
nudging people to their equipment by offering other brand support.  I can
point you towards many happy former futaba fliers that converted to the 2.4
version of the 9303.

Rob


On 5/29/08, Darwin Barrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Comments inserted.
 On May 29, 2008, at 8:55 AM, David Webb wrote:

 Darwin, I think your answer lies in the unique qualities and general low
 numbers of the soaring communities.



 The standard TX for many soaring enthusiasts is the Sanwa / Airtronics
  Stylus and many are waiting for a 2.4 GHZ module due out before next
 season. The JR and Futaba systems offer most of the Stylus functionality and
 in some cases a few features I would like to see on a stylus but many pilots
 are loath to give up their Stylus yet.



 The Stylus is still an excellent transmitter but is no longer made. To me
 the ultimate system for any discipline of RC is the Futaba 14MZ. It has far
 more capability than the Stylus and will drive the other brands of
 receivers, negative or positive shift and is very easy to program.  Yeah it
 is expensive but you only need to buy once and fly everything you own.
  There is no comparison. It is capable of both 72, (all synthesized) and 2.4
 with the FASST module.


 People don't want to poke holes in their nose cone or fuse to allow the two
 whiskers to exit. 2.4 friendly noses are becomeing main stream and this may
 also push adoption up.



 Never seen this be an issue with anyone. The Futaba antennas can be exited
 with a 1/32 hole for each. No extra antenna modules etc No big
 obtrusive holes


 The FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) factor is still high. I just attended
 an f3J contest and someone on my flight line had to get a backup model
 because thier primary failed to  bind up. Many see 2.4 technology as still
 teething and would like to see it get to a more critical mass before putting
 it into something as unforgiving as an unpowered aircraft. Fail safe in a
 glider is a crap shoot at best so trying out a new technology that could
 leave you free flying is just plain scary.


 The initial intoxication with the 2.4 has died down. I agree that many have
 not wrapped their arms around this yet while others have sold all 72 gear.
 I'm just curious why more aren't using it in competition.


 The real pressure to move to 2.4 is to attain a frequency-less situation
 that avoids conflicts. Glider pilots are the geeks of the R/C crowd and at
 the  fields I fly, on a sunny Saturday or Sunday morning I have a hard time
 finding another pilot to talk to let alone conflict with. I have to make a
 call and organize to get someone to show up there when I am flying!



 The moron factor is definitely reduced with 2.4.


 Contest pilots are the ones who are moving fairly fast towards 2.4 which is
 a very small number of a select small crowd. I will be there next season
 myself.  My secondary field is very close to a private power field so the
 prospect of removing conflicts is my main advantage.


 I think many are overlooking great equipment when it comes to the Futaba
 stuff. The 14MZ is the ultimate. Nothing comes close. The new 12 is
 excellent and the new 10 Channel is a great do everything system that is
 easy to program with every function we need. I use my trusty 9C Super for HL
 and all of my electric stuff and the 14MZ my competition sailplanes and
 Giant Scale Aerobatic planes.


 The receivers are tiny and fit in all current HL's and there are many
 excellent digital and non digital servos available with some new ones coming
 out.


 I'm a little biased being on Team Futaba. Despite the brand loyalty, I've
 looked at all of them and find the Futaba 2.4 receivers the most practical
 for the soaring application.


 Darwin N. Barrie
 Chandler AZ







 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Darwin Barrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought 2.4 was all the rage. People abandoning 72 and ham band en masse
 to use 2.4 and selling everything off.  So, why are we not seeing it as much
 in the sailplane world?

 At the SW Classic there were not nearly as many as I expected. I did not
 get the count but it was far less than we thought we'd get.  Now, I was
 reviewing the pilot list for the IHLGF and see that there are only 4 pilots
 using 2.4, myself included (53 total entries).

 I am using the Futaba Fasst System. I have the 9C Super transmitter with
 the 2.4 Fasst Module and the 607 Fasst receivers in my Blaster, Blaster 2
 and Vandal. These small receivers fit nicely and the two whisker antennas
 are easily exited from the fuselage.

 So far they are working great with no range issues. Admittedly, I have not
 used the system in a crowded environment, but I have no doubt it will work
 fine.

 Darwin N. Barrie
 Chandler AZ
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Re: [RCSE] Well, I thought it was over...

2008-02-26 Thread Rob Davis

83f in Dallas yesterday.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is the trouble when you move north instead of south.  63 in  
Tullahoma yesterday and we flew for hours in wall to wall sun, and  
abundant lift. Sorry about that. ;o) Brian


- Original Message - Cc: Subject: Re: [RCSE] Well, I thought  
it was over...




But I am not in the Middle of KNOW Where..
LOL

--
Jack Strother
Granger, IN

LSF 2948
LSF Level V  #117
LSF Official 1996 - 2004
CSS Gold



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Jack I would be glad to trade you the 30 on the ground for the 6  
you have

right now.   :-))


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LSF 7429 level IV


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Re: [RCSE] Jack Benny is 39 and 2.4 is 38? Thanks for the 'assurances and guesses!

2007-12-26 Thread Rob Davis
I would expect the spektrum limit and what happens when the channels are
occupied was addressed to the AMA's satisfaction.  Perhaps asking Steve
Kaluf is in order.  He's the AMA tech guy.

Rob

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 Begin forwarded message:

 basically...the mixing systems shouldn't be any issue.  The Futaba
 systems represent momentary narrow band emissions and as such will not
 interfere with the Direct Sequence system used by JR/Spektrum.when you
 get 39 JR/Spektrum radios on at the same time, then number 40 will not be
 able to achieve a lock with the receiver.that one won't be able to fly
 till one of the other ones is turned off...none of the other ones currently
 on will be affected by the 40th one..the Futaba and JR systems use VERY
 different Spread Spectrum systems...the Futaba frequency hopping system
 basically uses a narrow band signal but change the frequency across a wide
 spectrum..the JR/Spektrum Direct Sequence system literally spreads the
 data packets across a wide spectrum.the great part about this is when
 the receiver puts all of this back together.the direct sequence system
 reduces the background interference to a minimum..
 Kevin O'Dell





RE: [RCSE] Level-IV Session

2006-08-27 Thread Rob Davis
Jochen flies a Sharon Pro!

Rob

-Original Message-
From: David Register [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:32 PM
To: RCSE (Soaring)
Subject: [RCSE] Level-IV Session

A hot, steamy flying session at a sod farm near Tioga, TX yielded some 
great results for LSF accomplishments today. 4 Texans and an Okie got 
there around 8:30 just as a band of rain was passing through. After 
getting things settled down, scoping out the distances with a GPS and 
getting the truck ready for course duties, the guys settled in to trim 
flights and various attempts at finding lift.

The first several hours were spotty as the humidity kept the lift light 
and patchy. But late in the morning a strong lift band developed and 
Jochen Luetke hooked a boomer with his Stratos. After spec'ing it out, 
we piled in the truck and took off down the field. As more lift 
developed heading north, the outcome became more certain. John  
maintained much of his altitude over the 2km run to the turn-around 
point. We had to really haul a** coming back down wind to keep up with 
the plane. The gravel road with pits and holes and right angle turns 
made it a bit tough on the pilot but with good altitude at the finish we 
were able to slow down a bit and get him back to the start for a smooth 
landing.

One Level-IV goal and return done.

The next several hours went back to the unstable cycle that prevailed 
early in the morning and only one (unsuccessful) attempt was made on the 
course. Around 1:30 PM, Tim Bennett added some tail weight to his TECO 
and sent it up for a check out. Although the plane was much more 
responsive, it had a tendency to stall and tuck.  However, it was going 
up at a really good clip! The morning lift band looked like it was back. 
Tim worked a fairly strong core on the west side of the field until he 
was spec'ed enough to give it a shot. We got Tim in the truck bed and 
took off for the 2km target at the north end. From the morning's 
experience, Dan drove ahead to spot the turn-around point so we wouldn't 
have to drive the truck around the storage shed, down the tree line, 
through the mud bog and up the hill at the extreme north end of the field.

Lift continued to develop on the northward traverse. The plane continued 
to swoop and tuck in the lift-y gusts that were coming through. Dan 
spotted the plane at the north end just as we were thinking of braving 
the bog to make sure we got the distance right. Just in time as the lift 
was starting to quit. Tim turned that puppy around and we drove like a 
bat outta hell trying to keep up. The plane was back over the winch 
before we got there and Tim had to 'loiter' it a bit while Rob raced 
around the gravel boundary road. Making the last turn at a good clip 
dumped Tim over in the bed of the truck, at which point the plane was 
about 10ft off the deck in a perfect position to finish the course.

Since both pilots had completed all their other tasks for Level IV, 
hopefully today's adventure will wrap things up when their paperwork is 
sent in to LSF.

Congratulations Tim and John. They'll join Mark Williams as Level IVs 
for the Soaring League of North Texas. Thanks to Rob Davis and Dan 
Ahearn for their very able assistance in getting these guys qualified to 
tackle Level V.

- Dave R
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Re:[RCSE] Great Ideas

2006-08-15 Thread Rob Davis
To add to Simon's note.  I normally build / buy my batteries with dual leads.  
One lead is used to charge and the other plugs into the switch.  Charging 
through a switch is normally a bad idea.

I like the idea of a switch that fails open.  I've used Fromeco's pin flag 
switches on other aircraft and wonder why I've not seen any saiplanes using 
them.  The switch has a pin that you remove to turn on the aircraft.  The pin 
(2-3 inches in length) normally has the proverbial Remove before flight 
streamer attached to the pin requiring a 2-3mm hole in the canopy of fuse to 
allow the pin access to the switch.  It ought to lead to fewer failures to turn 
on the plane prior to launch. But then again a quick control check would 
accomplish this task as well.

Rob
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RE: [RCSE] Re: TX RF output? Long!

2006-03-10 Thread Rob Davis
So if the far is PCM and the near is PPM does using PCM mitigate this
problem?  What about the opposite situation i.e. PCM near and PPM far?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Jon Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:38 AM
To: EXT-McCleave, Howard R
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: TX RF output? Long!

From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Of course it's a real phenomenon.  The technical term is `desense'.
 
   http://users3.ev1.net/~medcalf/ztx/desense.html


It's also called the near-far problem.

Imagine trying to hear a whisper across a crowded room.  Nearby louder
voices drowned out the one familiar voice you are trying to hear.  All radio
receivers face the same issues.

Jon

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RE: [RCSE] 9303???

2006-03-05 Thread Rob Davis








I fly both Helis and Sailplanes and
have the 9303 heli version. I prefer the switch placement of the Heli
version. 



Rob











From: Marta Zavala
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:03 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] 9303???







Does the JR 9303 Heli version have all the sailplane
programming available in it as well? I have heard it does with the big
difference between it and the airplane/sailplane version being switch location?





thanks, Walter










RE: [RCSE] Supra Antenna Placement - bottom placement

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Davis
Is your equipment PPM or PCM?  Single or Dual Conversion? Is the range
checking done with the transmitter antennae fully collapsed or partially?
Here's a link to a good article on range checking.

http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1079tag=hht2004

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Donald B. Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:48 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Molded Supra Antenna Placement - bottom placement

Update on antenna placement question I posed on Tuesday.
 
I did a fair amount of range testing today before I maidened my new carbon
Supra #48. I tried the thick walled plastic tube along the tailboom - works
but only what I consider to be very marginal range (approx 120 feet). 
 
Shortening a long story. Gordy - you told me so!
 
What worked best for me was to lengthen the antenna so that 18 of antenna
extended out beyond the end of the tailboom. 18 has not been optimized. I
just found that with 18 out the back I had more than 300 feet of range and
ran out of dry area in my melting snow covered soggy field before I started
to see any glitches or jittering. 
 
Don


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[RCSE] Hoopes Cutout Diagram Anyone?

2006-02-05 Thread Rob Davis
I’ve inherited a hoopes harness and am looking for the diagram to aid
mounting the harness in the fuse.  

Thanks,
Rob

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RE: [RCSE] sailing

2006-01-20 Thread Rob Davis
The different fleets have their own idiosyncrasies.  The IOM class, which I
ran for several years, spends a lot of time getting guys up to speed.  The
racing rules of sailing are taken quite seriously.  At 2003 World
Championships held in Vancouver, we had an international panel of sailing
judges.  Several of these judges had finished the Americas Cup earlier that
year.  We have an annual Dallas Regatta, appropriately named the Blow Out,
which will likely attract 25-35 boats from around the country.

Unless you're willing to travel around the US for regattas you're kinda
stuck with who is local to you sailing in their fleet.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Ben Diss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:59 AM
To: Bill Johns
Cc: Soaring Yahoo
Subject: Re: [RCSE] sailing

I tried a couple of times.  I even bought an EC-12, but the sailing 
guys are a tight-knit group and not very open to outsiders.  I gave up 
before attending even one event as it didn't seem fun at all.

-Ben

Bill Johns wrote:

 Idle curiosity prompts me to ask.
 
 Is there anyone on this list who is also active with R/C sailboats?
 
 Please contact me off line.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bill
 ---
 It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins
 
 Bill Johns
 Colton, WA
 
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[RCSE] RE: JR 368's vs Airtronics 94761

2006-01-14 Thread Rob Davis
I’m planning to try the Airtronics 94761 in lieu of the venerable JR 368s on
my Thermal Dancer.  I’m planning to use these servos on all surfaces.  Is
this overkill or a misapplication of this servo?

The airtronics servo has performed impeccably as a rudder servo on small
electric helis like the T-Rex and is used on Futaba 401 gyros without any
problems.  In comparing the JR and Airtronics servo they’re nearly identical
on paper.  I’ve included the details below.  What are others opinions? 
Thanks in advance.

DS368 Premium Digital Servo:Micro 
  Specs
  Torque: 53.0 oz/in
  Speed: .21 sec/60°
  Dimensions: 0.50 x 1.12 x 1.17in
  Weight: .80 oz
  Bearing: n/a
  Motor Type: Cored




Airtronics 94761

Torque – 55 oz/in
Speed  - .15 sec/ 60
Dims – 1.06 x .47 x 1.18
Weight - .80 oz
Bearing – 2
Motor Type - Coreless

Rob


From: John D Frugé [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:07 AM
To: Chip Willis; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds.

Yep, The (368's) are like Gold. I keep some in the garage in a drawer just
in case the US doller falls to low I still will have something :)
 
Hehe,
 
John Fruge
- Original Message - 
From: Chip Willis 
To: soaring@airage.com 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds. 

Man, guess I should have asked for more… lol… thanks guys!

chip

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RE: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment

2006-01-09 Thread Rob Davis
Deutsche Post which owns DHL, Lufthansa, Danzas, etc. is very deep into
transportation.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:59 PM
To: JMiller
Cc: Anker Berg-Sonne; RC Soaring Exchange
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment


Yes, the german post office will ship to other countries.


JMiller wrote:
 Anker,
   I feel your pain and auger.  Bye the way, in my previous post, I don't 
 know if DHL will ship to foreign countries, but the service is very good 
 in the USA.
 
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RE: [RCSE] Lachowski Pod

2006-01-06 Thread Rob Davis








I felt the same way about mine! 



Rob











From: Marta Zavala
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:48 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Lachowski Pod







Got my fuse pod for the Supra from Mike today. Thats
quality stuff Mike. Looks so nice it will be hard to paint it, it may
stay bare.





Walter










RE: [RCSE] Supra

2005-12-27 Thread Rob Davis
It sounds like there are several variants...

Drela Supra
Phil Barnes is doing 130 Supra wings / tail feathers that mate with an M
Lachowski's fuse Kennedy Composites Molded Supra

Kinda Supra -
Polecat Aero's Thermal Dancer a 122 variant based upon Thermal Dancer w/ 2
piece wings


Rob

-Original Message-
From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:59 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Supra

How many different variations of the Supra are there?


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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RE: [RCSE] Batteries??

2005-10-06 Thread Rob Davis








A guy broke off from SR Batteries and is
doing the same quality work at a little lower price. The place is
nobsbatteries at http://www.hangtimes.com/nobsbatteries.html
. Ive had good experiences with him. Radical RC is also very
good.



Rob











From: Jim Laurel
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005
11:42 PM
To: 'GRW'; 'Kent Miller';
Soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Batteries??





Glenn,

Have you really had good experiences with
them? Ive placed two orders. The first order, for some
Lipoly packs that puffed for no apparent reason. Actually, one puffed
before I ever even hooked up a connector, just sitting in a box!



The second order was for some custom
shaped NiMh RX packs. I drew up a Visio diagram showing the
configuration, where I wanted the wire to exit, how I wanted the strain relief
done. I got packs with no strain relief, the wire coming out of the wrong
end of the pack, and a really sloppy shrinkwrap job. When I called them
about it, they said to send them back and this time to please provide a
diagram. Go figure.



Never ordered from them again



--Jim











From: GRW
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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005
5:59 PM
To: Kent Miller;
Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries??







Try www.cheapbatterypacks.com





--
Glenn W.
Tri-Cities, Wa







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