Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
I don't know Cal. I see many new fliers starting competition with an RES plane. Usually a 3 meter RES. It makes more sense to start someone out on a 3 Meter RES than a 2 Meter full house. Afterall this is the National competition. You should not be there if you only have a few flights on a beginner plane. Steve Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 12:21 PM 8/2/2005, Cal Posthuma wrote: ... Two Meter is very different from RES but both contribute to new aircraft that provide a starting place for the new fliers. ... Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
This is a great idea and a easy one to implement, drop a day of 2M, numbers are about the same for 2M and RES, mostly me thinks, because the guys that come to play for the week bring the requisite toys. Here's one idea, start AMA TD with one day of 2m, then 2 days of unlimited, one day of RES and end with a day of NOS. If NOS numbers are low, the event could wind up earlier in the day to get guys on their way. RES has evolved into a fun event with sailplanes that are a blast to fly, I love my Topaz. A day of RES is a good way for the contest to wind down. NOS numbers might go up with a full day as some may come to just fly that event on a Friday. Mark's idea below to make the Dan Pruss award based on unlimited, 2M and RES is a good one, and one that I believe would enjoy good support. What say all of you?? Barry On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Mark Miller wrote: I'm all for a full day of RES. The way it was explained to me regarding the reason for keeping 2 days of 2 meter was that it was a premier event like Unlimited and RES was not. I would say that over the past 4 or 5 years RES had advanced and grown in popularity around the country. The technology has advanced to the point where RES designs are winning unlimited contests these days. 2 meter is declining around the country and technology and market share is stagnant or declining. The number of people flying RES at the NATS is not what it could be because, in my opinion it is essentially a half day of flying for a full price entry. It is also placed badly where folks are trying to get home after a long week of flying. I feel it is the class that has actually been growing over the years nation wide. The way it can become a premier event is by treating it that way. I would not mind even seeing the Dan Pruss award be based on the point total for 2 meter, Unlimited and RES. It is 3 different ways of flying and would reward the versitility of the team. This will, in my mind, be as the award was intended which was based on 3 classes, 2 meter, standard and unlimited. Seeing a full day for DLG with 20 entries is kind of weird. Also, who would like to see a Hobie Hawk sub class in Nostalgia? I would love to see a bunch of Hobies mixing it up. The Isthmus Models Hobie Hawk Challenge. I'll provide a trophy. Mark Miller Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Hi Guys, I wasn't trying to take a day from 2m, just suggesting we add a full day of RES. RES is fun, and it is clearly growing in popularity. It seems to me there might be a way for HLG and NOS to share the day with frequencies and field space much like we do when F3B runs along side of X/C, using the same fields. I like and support the idea about the Dan Pruss award (as a member of the first SOAR team to ever win it in 2004), but that is a different discussion independent of getting RES a full day. Lets take that as a next step if possible, down the road. Jim At 11:29 AM 8/2/2005, Barry Andersen wrote: This is a great idea and a easy one to implement, drop a day of 2M, numbers are about the same for 2M and RES, mostly me thinks, because the guys that come to play for the week bring the requisite toys. Here's one idea, start AMA TD with one day of 2m, then 2 days of unlimited, one day of RES and end with a day of NOS. If NOS numbers are low, the event could wind up earlier in the day to get guys on their way. RES has evolved into a fun event with sailplanes that are a blast to fly, I love my Topaz. A day of RES is a good way for the contest to wind down. NOS numbers might go up with a full day as some may come to just fly that event on a Friday. Mark's idea below to make the Dan Pruss award based on unlimited, 2M and RES is a good one, and one that I believe would enjoy good support. What say all of you?? Barry On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Mark Miller wrote: I'm all for a full day of RES. The way it was explained to me regarding the reason for keeping 2 days of 2 meter was that it was a premier event like Unlimited and RES was not. I would say that over the past 4 or 5 years RES had advanced and grown in popularity around the country. The technology has advanced to the point where RES designs are winning unlimited contests these days. 2 meter is declining around the country and technology and market share is stagnant or declining. The number of people flying RES at the NATS is not what it could be because, in my opinion it is essentially a half day of flying for a full price entry. It is also placed badly where folks are trying to get home after a long week of flying. I feel it is the class that has actually been growing over the years nation wide. The way it can become a premier event is by treating it that way. I would not mind even seeing the Dan Pruss award be based on the point total for 2 meter, Unlimited and RES. It is 3 different ways of flying and would reward the versitility of the team. This will, in my mind, be as the award was intended which was based on 3 classes, 2 meter, standard and unlimited. Seeing a full day for DLG with 20 entries is kind of weird. Also, who would like to see a Hobie Hawk sub class in Nostalgia? I would love to see a bunch of Hobies mixing it up. The Isthmus Models Hobie Hawk Challenge. I'll provide a trophy. Mark Miller Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Sounds like a real winner to me! Even though this was my first NATS, I heard a lot of grumbling about 2-meter, and a number of pilots longing for RES to have a full day. Based on the numbers you cited (72 pilots in 2M, 64 in RES) and apparently popular sentiment, I think you have a pretty strong case. Barry Andersen wrote: Here's one idea, start AMA TD with one day of 2m, then 2 days of unlimited, one day of RES and end with a day of NOS. If NOS numbers are low, the event could wind up earlier in the day to get guys on their way. What say all of you?? Barry -- Ben Wilson Web Developer/Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 502.836.8551 home: 502.290.0624 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
sounds good to me. Jon - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be cool if the RES competition could have an entire day to itself at Nats next year. Anyone else here think that would be a good idea? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Two Meter does not need to drop a day. Nostalgia will die or co-exist with F3B or HL, probably HL. Two Meter is very different from RES but both contribute to new aircraft that provide a starting place for the new fliers. When I wrote the first rules to start the RES class at the Nats the concept was to cause new planes to be made for the class so new flyers have choices. To diminish Two Meter as a result is back stepping. Dan Pruss award is up to SOAR. If they want to advance RES to competition level they write the rules. AMA sets Hi Johnson and Lee Renaud awards and they should remain as they are. Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES Hi Guys, I wasn't trying to take a day from 2m, just suggesting we add a full day of RES. RES is fun, and it is clearly growing in popularity. It seems to me there might be a way for HLG and NOS to share the day with frequencies and field space much like we do when F3B runs along side of X/C, using the same fields. I like and support the idea about the Dan Pruss award (as a member of the first SOAR team to ever win it in 2004), but that is a different discussion independent of getting RES a full day. Lets take that as a next step if possible, down the road. Jim At 11:29 AM 8/2/2005, Barry Andersen wrote: This is a great idea and a easy one to implement, drop a day of 2M, numbers are about the same for 2M and RES, mostly me thinks, because the guys that come to play for the week bring the requisite toys. Here's one idea, start AMA TD with one day of 2m, then 2 days of unlimited, one day of RES and end with a day of NOS. If NOS numbers are low, the event could wind up earlier in the day to get guys on their way. RES has evolved into a fun event with sailplanes that are a blast to fly, I love my Topaz. A day of RES is a good way for the contest to wind down. NOS numbers might go up with a full day as some may come to just fly that event on a Friday. Mark's idea below to make the Dan Pruss award based on unlimited, 2M and RES is a good one, and one that I believe would enjoy good support. What say all of you?? Barry On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Mark Miller wrote: I'm all for a full day of RES. The way it was explained to me regarding the reason for keeping 2 days of 2 meter was that it was a premier event like Unlimited and RES was not. I would say that over the past 4 or 5 years RES had advanced and grown in popularity around the country. The technology has advanced to the point where RES designs are winning unlimited contests these days. 2 meter is declining around the country and technology and market share is stagnant or declining. The number of people flying RES at the NATS is not what it could be because, in my opinion it is essentially a half day of flying for a full price entry. It is also placed badly where folks are trying to get home after a long week of flying. I feel it is the class that has actually been growing over the years nation wide. The way it can become a premier event is by treating it that way. I would not mind even seeing the Dan Pruss award be based on the point total for 2 meter, Unlimited and RES. It is 3 different ways of flying and would reward the versitility of the team. This will, in my mind, be as the award was intended which was based on 3 classes, 2 meter, standard and unlimited. Seeing a full day for DLG with 20 entries is kind of weird. Also, who would like to see a Hobie Hawk sub class in Nostalgia? I would love to see a bunch of Hobies mixing it up. The Isthmus Models Hobie Hawk Challenge. I'll provide a trophy. Mark Miller Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Hi Cal and Everyone: It would appear that the Nat's is trying to be all things to all flyers. Looking back on past Nat's with 2 Meter, Standard(100) Unlimited and Scale it was a more relaxed time. Now we are trying to get F3B, F3J, Hand Launch, Cross Country, Scale, 2 Meter, Unlimited, RES and Nostalgia into the schedule. Take a look at this for a schedule. First Class of AMA TD. Sunday and Monday 2 Meter. Second Class TD. Tuesday and Wednesday Unlimited. Third Class.TD. Thursday and Friday RES with Friday shared with Nostalgia. Friday evening for the Banquet. Specialty events in the days before and after AMA TD. This would give SIX days of Thermal Duration Flying with diversified types of Sailplanes testing all of our skills. My $0.02 worth. EW. Ed Whyte Whyte Wings 7207 Cornerstone Drive Caledonia, MI 49316-7879 616 698 8668 - Original Message - From: Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES Two Meter does not need to drop a day. Nostalgia will die or co-exist with F3B or HL, probably HL. Two Meter is very different from RES but both contribute to new aircraft that provide a starting place for the new fliers. When I wrote the first rules to start the RES class at the Nats the concept was to cause new planes to be made for the class so new flyers have choices. To diminish Two Meter as a result is back stepping. Dan Pruss award is up to SOAR. If they want to advance RES to competition level they write the rules. AMA sets Hi Johnson and Lee Renaud awards and they should remain as they are. Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] One full day of RES
The olny thing that flies as bad as a 2mtr isDavie butthed McCarthy!!! MB pbss From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500 What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. I think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly it to occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this years event was Do you know what flies worse than a 2M? Answer: Nothing. In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis. Let the flaming begin. Jim McCarthy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Jim, Oh man, I may have to "un-invite" you to "The Party" for comments like that!!!:) I maybe one of few that really enjoys two meter. For me I found that flying two meter really helped me read air. Not quite like hand launch but close. Plus they're just so damn cute!! I don't think you would get too much opposition to a one day of each format. Definitely wouldn't try to get rid of it entirely though. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: Jim McCarthy To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. I think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly it to occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this years event was " Do you know what flies worse than a 2M?" Answer: "Nothing". In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis. Let the flaming begin. Jim McCarthy
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
With the introduction of production planes like the Ava and the Topaz, RES is now the fastest growing segment of plane in this neck of the woods. Where it used to be just a few people it is now nearly even with the amount of Open class entries. There are several fliers that have won Open contests with these planes and it isn't a fluke. Over the last year I have consistently scored better with my Topaz than with my Open class plane, primarily because of the ability to just drop it on the spot and have it stick. They are so light they don't carry too much momentum. They thermal easier, the handling is excellent, they just don't like as much wind, but then again, they can successfully be ballasted. In the big monthly contests SWSA holds, the number of Open class planes is probably around 30, RES is about 20 and 2M is about 10. It seems completely upside down to me that 2M at the NATS gets 2 days while RES gets 1/2 a day. Additionally, the awards banquet is held before RES and NOS are even flown, pushing it down further from a competitive event to more of a fun fly afterthought. I would have Monday for 2M, Tues and Wed for Open, Thurs would be RES, Fri morning hand launch and Friday afternoon NOS. Events like F3B, F3J, X-Country and Scale would be on the weekend before or after. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500 To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. I think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly it to occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this years event was Do you know what flies worse than a 2M? Answer: Nothing. In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis. Let the flaming begin. Jim McCarthy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Not so Jim. We fly 2m comps here, and they tend to be every bit as popular as Open class. We often get more pilots at 2m comps than any other. Look at my website under Millennium Cup. I have heard it said that 3m + models are easier to fly than 2m. I dont agree with that, but they are certainly more efficient, launch higher and hang longer than 2m models. I love flying 2m models, and one day, poppa Edgar may send me one. Klaus Weiss Sydney Australia http://www.hsl.org.au What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. Do you know what flies worse than a 2M? Answer: Nothing. In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis.
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year
would have Monday for 2M, Tues and Wed for Open, Thurs would be RES, Fri morning hand launch and Friday afternoon NOS. Events like F3B, F3J, X-Country and Scale would be on the weekend before or after. JE Would probably be the end of NOS. Just not that many flying it. It won't be long and NOS will be 30 year old planes. It is so limited. If they set the category for 20 year old planes (more like it was when it started), it would open up the field for more fliers. I would come an extra couple days early if they had XC and Scale every year. It doesn't even have to be a contest, just two days set aside at the beginning of the schedule. T With the introduction of production planes like the Ava and the Topaz, RES is now the fastest growing segment of plane in this neck of the woods. Where it used to be just a few people it is now nearly even with the amount of Open class entries. There are several fliers that have won Open contests with these planes and it isn't a fluke. Over the last year I have consistently scored better with my Topaz than with my Open class plane, primarily because of the ability to just drop it on the spot and have it stick. They are so light they don't carry too much momentum. They thermal easier, the handling is excellent, they just don't like as much wind, but then again, they can successfully be ballasted. In the big monthly contests SWSA holds, the number of Open class planes is probably around 30, RES is about 20 and 2M is about 10. It seems completely upside down to me that 2M at the NATS gets 2 days while RES gets 1/2 a day. Additionally, the awards banquet is held before RES and NOS are even flown, pushing it down further from a competitive event to more of a fun fly afterthought. I -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500 To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. I think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly it to occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this years event was Do you know what flies worse than a 2M? Answer: Nothing. In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis. Let the flaming begin. Jim McCarthy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year
Now there is an idea, basically what I was getting at, contests and fun every year. De-emphasize the contest aspect as the die hards know who they are, and will always show up, we need to attract the rest, the guys who don't always come, who care less about rigorous competition, who will support the National Flying site with their presence if it is relevant to their interests, not the minority of top level competition pilots. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: TJB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:54 PM To: Soaring List Subject: Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year would have Monday for 2M, Tues and Wed for Open, Thurs would be RES, Fri morning hand launch and Friday afternoon NOS. Events like F3B, F3J, X-Country and Scale would be on the weekend before or after. JE Would probably be the end of NOS. Just not that many flying it. It won't be long and NOS will be 30 year old planes. It is so limited. If they set the category for 20 year old planes (more like it was when it started), it would open up the field for more fliers. I would come an extra couple days early if they had XC and Scale every year. It doesn't even have to be a contest, just two days set aside at the beginning of the schedule. T With the introduction of production planes like the Ava and the Topaz, RES is now the fastest growing segment of plane in this neck of the woods. Where it used to be just a few people it is now nearly even with the amount of Open class entries. There are several fliers that have won Open contests with these planes and it isn't a fluke. Over the last year I have consistently scored better with my Topaz than with my Open class plane, primarily because of the ability to just drop it on the spot and have it stick. They are so light they don't carry too much momentum. They thermal easier, the handling is excellent, they just don't like as much wind, but then again, they can successfully be ballasted. In the big monthly contests SWSA holds, the number of Open class planes is probably around 30, RES is about 20 and 2M is about 10. It seems completely upside down to me that 2M at the NATS gets 2 days while RES gets 1/2 a day. Additionally, the awards banquet is held before RES and NOS are even flown, pushing it down further from a competitive event to more of a fun fly afterthought. I -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500 To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 2M. I think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly it to occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this years event was Do you know what flies worse than a 2M? Answer: Nothing. In general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a regular basis. Let the flaming begin. Jim McCarthy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
Yes! RES deserves more rounds. Drop one day of 2M and install RES. I still will need to buy a 2M and a RES plane. At 04:56 PM 8/1/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: I think it would be cool if the RES competition could have an entire day to itself at Nats next year. Anyone else here think that would be a good idea? Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES
I'm all for a full day of RES. The way it was explained to me regarding the reason for keeping 2 days of 2 meter was that it was a premier event like Unlimited and RES was not. I would say that over the past 4 or 5 years RES had advanced and grown in popularity around the country. The technology has advanced to the point where RES designs are winning unlimited contests these days. 2 meter is declining around the country and technology and market share is stagnant or declining. The number of people flying RES at the NATS is not what it could be because, in my opinion it is essentially a half day of flying for a full price entry. It is also placed badly where folks are trying to get home after a long week of flying. I feel it is the class that has actually been growing over the years nation wide. The way it can become a premier event is by treating it that way. I would not mind even seeing the Dan Pruss award be based on the point total for 2 meter, Unlimited and RES. It is 3 different ways of flying and would reward the versitility of the team. This will, in my mind, be as the award was intended which was based on 3 classes, 2 meter, standard and unlimited. Seeing a full day for DLG with 20 entries is kind of weird. Also, who would like to see a Hobie Hawk sub class in Nostalgia? I would love to see a bunch of Hobies mixing it up. The Isthmus Models Hobie Hawk Challenge. I'll provide a trophy. Mark Miller Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
