Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Neese
So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a
message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really
hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a
next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even
try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

This is fun!
On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Patrick

Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before 
they will work.

You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully 
functional trial licences.

Kind regards

Angus

From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message 
about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram.  All of the 
values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really 
hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next 
level workstation card if it would greatly help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try 
anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

This is fun!

On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S 
jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese 
patrickne...@gmail.commailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote:
The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.
I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Chapman
Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift
and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error
as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version
behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then
worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!

On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:

  Hi Patrick

  Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them
 before they will work.

  You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4
 fully functional trial licences.

  Kind regards

  Angus
  --
 *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

   So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a
 message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
 vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
 ideas?

 I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
 I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really
 hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a
 next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

 Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant
 even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

 This is fun!
 On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.


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Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Does anyone else get an invalid external destination error,
when trying to access the online documentation for Softimage 2015?

Greetz
Leendert

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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread wavo

no destination-error!
but redirecting to :


 Welcome to the Autodesk Feedback Community!



Am 10/24/2014 1:05 PM, schrieb Leendert A. Hartog:

Does anyone else get an invalid external destination error,
when trying to access the online documentation for Softimage 2015?

Greetz
Leendert




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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread wavo

and 2014 ist still working by the way! : )


Am 10/24/2014 1:05 PM, schrieb Leendert A. Hartog:

Does anyone else get an invalid external destination error,
when trying to access the online documentation for Softimage 2015?

Greetz
Leendert




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60314 Frankfurt am Main
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Telefax +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.15

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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Turman
I noticed that yesterday afternoon too :-/

What was the link to be able to download a version again? At this point, I
trust AD about as far as I can throw them and would not like to lose
ability to access documentation for Softimage.

-=T=-

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:18 AM, wavo w...@fiftyeight.com wrote:

  and 2014 ist still working by the way!  : )


 Am 10/24/2014 1:05 PM, schrieb Leendert A. Hartog:

 Does anyone else get an invalid external destination error,
 when trying to access the online documentation for Softimage 2015?

 Greetz
 Leendert



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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

You should still be able to download them from here: http://waa.ai/4RMF

Greetz
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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Turman
Thanks much, Leendert! just what the doctor ordered =)

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl
wrote:

 You should still be able to download them from here: http://waa.ai/4RMF


 Greetz
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 Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com




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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
aren't you a subscription customer and can submit a support request there?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote:
 So I guess we'll have to address this with our resellers also? :D


Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

In my recent experience they aren't as quick as they used to be...
And this isn't (as we ascertained) a one user problem, but something 
bigger.


Greetz
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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Neese
I thought I just upgraded the driver this week, but...most likely this is
it. I didn't even think of that at 3am :)

I'll give that a go when I return home.

Thanks!

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift
 and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error
 as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version
 behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then
 worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!

 On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za
 wrote:

  Hi Patrick

  Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them
 before they will work.

  You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow
 4 fully functional trial licences.

  Kind regards

  Angus
  --
 *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

   So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with
 a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
 vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
 ideas?

 I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
 I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was
 really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on
 maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

 Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant
 even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

 This is fun!
 On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.


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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Wuijster

Can you explain once more what added value a reseller has these days?
I haven't used one in years, as the Interweb has more convenient and 
quicker ways to buy your software.


For hardware... a big maybe, and my reseller hasn't contacted me in a 
year btw, by phone or email...


Rob

\/-\/\/

On 24-10-2014 15:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

aren't you a subscription customer and can submit a support request there?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote:

So I guess we'll have to address this with our resellers also? :D


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Wuijster
I had the same thing over here. Just be sure to have the latest NVIDIA 
drivers installed. Testing RedShift on a GTX 570 atm. :-)



Rob

\/-\/\/

On 24-10-2014 12:10, Rob Chapman wrote:
Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of 
redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same 
render error as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I 
was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest 
and redshift then worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!


On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:


Hi Patrick

Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have
them before they will work.

You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still
allow 4 fully functional trial licences.

Kind regards

Angus

*From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com
mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away
with a message about it being unable to operate with less than
256mb of free vram.  All of the values other than the card type
are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I
was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help
decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly
help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I
cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an
mi2 file.

This is fun!

On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese
patrickne...@gmail.com mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited
render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I
don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way
from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point
at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2
files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you
have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you
should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask
yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to
fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may
not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
You might also ask on the redshift
  Forum (very Softimage Friendly)
  
  Beleive me, the "fun" will come soon enough :)
  
  
  On 10/24/14 6:10, Rob Chapman wrote:


  Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last
night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a
grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough
vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version behind on latest
nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked
fine.  super fast strands rendering!
  
On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus
  Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za
  wrote:
  

  Hi
Patrick


Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers
  need to have them before they will work.


You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure
  if they still allow 4 fully functional trial
  licences. 


Kind regards


Angus
  

From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network
  license?



  

  So I downloaded the redshift
demo...and it errors out right away with a
message about it being unable to operate
with less than 256mb of free vram.  All of
the values other than the card type are at 0
or 0kb. Any ideas?
  I have a gtx 560 ti i believe
with 1 gig.  No sli setup. 
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near
black friday but I was really hoping I could
get a preview of redshift soon to help
decide on maybe a next level workstation
card if it would greatly help. 
  
  Backburner's server.exe refuses
to run on my second computer so I cant even
try anything there and see if there is a way
to queue an mi2 file.
  This is fun! 
  On Oct 23, 2014 1:27
PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)
  
  On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau
  wrote:
  
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM,
Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:

  The reseller I talked with said I have
  unlimited render nodes for Max
  and Backburner for Mental Ray and to
  just use that.  I don't know what
  shaders can/can't be used for the
  renders this way from softimage.
  I'm still green with all of this...but
  at this point at least I don't
  have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that
you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite
standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage
standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes
for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you
should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering
what's best to fix it.
 

Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
I just threw the problem @AutodeskHelp on Twitter. They appear to be 
working on it!


Greetz
Leendert

And yes that's a lot quicker than waiting for the assignment of a 
support request... ;)


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OT - really nice simulation tech

2014-10-24 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Just stumbled over this one and thought I'd share:

https://vimeo.com/109662489

Would be a lovely addition to Kristinka...


Morten

Re: OT - really nice simulation tech

2014-10-24 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Nice ! though i shudder to think about the sim time.

On 24 October 2014 15:58, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk wrote:

   Just stumbled over this one and thought I'd share:



  https://vimeo.com/109662489


Would be a lovely addition to Kristinka...



Morten






RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. 
But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or 
Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this 
is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are 
available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do 
that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage 
rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or 
email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch 
of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on 
this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

 IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) 
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the 
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of 
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for 
 such things...)

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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Hi Jill,
Elsewhere on this list I noted a couple of days ago that the document 
currently online as the updated FAQ might require some additional 
update, in that it was intentionally sparse, but might have gotten too 
sparse in the process.


Greetz
Leendert

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Re: Softimage online documentation down?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

It would seem as if the problem has been resolved.

Greetz
Leendert

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Friday Flashback #195

2014-10-24 Thread Stephen Blair
SOFTIMAGE|3D system requirements circa 1999: 96MB RAM, 2GB free hard disk
space
http://wp.me/powV4-36I


Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)


We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very 
much available (and also still very useful)


I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little 
known secret? :)


Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. 
But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or 
Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this 
is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are 
available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do 
that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage 
rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or 
email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch 
of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on 
this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Actually you don't have to answer that, because I think we already know 
the answer.


But otherwise thanks for your presence and support around here!
J

On 10/24/14 13:06, Jason S wrote:
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for 
anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)


We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very 
much available (and also still very useful)


I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little 
known secret? :)


Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you 
are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage 
+ Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only 
available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, 
it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a 
further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if 
you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no 
change there).


Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com


http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf 



Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S

Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive 
to a bunch of subscribers.


Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say 
people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.

(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone
 looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
 as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a
 non-(internally)-developed product)

 We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
 but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much
 available (and also still very useful)

 I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little
 known secret? :)

 Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

 Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
 J

 On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

 Hi guys,
 Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on
 subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015
 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb
 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products).
 The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need
 to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get
 previous version usage rights (no change there).

 Hope that helps.
 Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your
 reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

 http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/
 products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%
 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

 Thanks,
 Jill

 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
 listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
 Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a
 bunch of subscribers.

 Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
 No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people
 on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
 (If too afraid of making too many sales)

 Why such tight limits?

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
 such things...)





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Phil Harbath
I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

-Original Message-
From: Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone
 looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
 as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a
 non-(internally)-developed product)

 We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
 but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much
 available (and also still very useful)

 I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little
 known secret? :)

 Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

 Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
 J

 On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

 Hi guys,
 Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on
 subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015
 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb
 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products).
 The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need
 to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get
 previous version usage rights (no change there).

 Hope that helps.
 Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your
 reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

 http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/
 products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%
 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

 Thanks,
 Jill

 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
 listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
 Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a
 bunch of subscribers.

 Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
 No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people
 on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
 (If too afraid of making too many sales)

 Why such tight limits?

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
 such things...)





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on 
sub)...


Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

Buy $ 6825  (more like 7k)

or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think 
would the case )


Upgrade $ 4780


Any of which is just not reasonable if you have SI ...2012/2013/2014 
and would like to update to the latest (last) 2015 version



On Friday, October 24, 2014 13:57:54, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?

On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for
anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version
(of a non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still
very much available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a
little known secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless
you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the
Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle.
Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is
unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do
not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on
subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change
there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to
your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com
http://autodesk.com


http://static-dc.autodesk.net/__content/dam/autodesk/www/__products/autodesk-softimage/__docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%__20Release%20Announcement_FAQ___UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-bounces@listproc.__autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-bounces@__listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.__com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as
it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users,
say people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to
last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to
request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

(Sorry, see erratum added between the asterisk)

Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on 
sub)...



Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

Buy $ 6825  (more like 7k)

or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think 
would the case **for many** )


Upgrade $ 4780




Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't
  on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015?
  
  On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:


  
  
I
  was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.
  
  
From: Luc-Eric
Rousseau
Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to
  Network license?

  
  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what
product? 
  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
  my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for
  anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on
  sub),
  as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest
  version (of a non-(internally)-developed product)
  
  We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
  but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's
  still very much available (and also still very useful)
  
  I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a
  little known secret? :)
  
  Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?
  
  Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
  J
  
  On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
  
Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore
unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get
upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage +
Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1,
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all
products). The bundles are available for purchase for a
further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that,
however if you are not on subs you do not get previous
version usage rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk
to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's)
as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage
users, say people on this list  + current SI-Community
Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at
  least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
  access to the
  latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
  same amount of
  existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to
  last one)
  
  (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to
  request/plead for
  such things...)
  

  
  

  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on
 sub)...

 Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the
webinar and the post here from jill !

The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus
Softimage 2015  and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya
upgrade.
But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it.


Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or 
take).

From: Jason S 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then 
upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:

  I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

--
  From: Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 

  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much 
available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known 
secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

  Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on 
subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 
bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The 
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on 
subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version 
usage rights (no change there).

  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

  
http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

  Thanks,
  Jill

  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a 
bunch of subscribers.

  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people 
on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)

  Why such tight limits?

  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
Hum! might be expensive, but 3k sure
  beats 7k, good to know there's at least an accessible (secret)
  avenue! ;)
  
  On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I
just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was
never on sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax
for free. Wohoo!
 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
  Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  

 

  Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on
sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:


  

  I
  was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

  
  

  
From:
Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent:
‎10/‎24/‎2014
1:57 PM
  To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject:
Re:
Stand-Alone to Network license?
  
  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 
  
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly
  be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the
  latest SI (while not being on sub),
  as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest
  version (of a non-(internally)-developed product)
  
  We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
  but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's
  still very much available (and also still very useful)
  
  I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there
  also a little known secret? :)
  
  Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?
  
  Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
  J
  
  On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
  
  
Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore
  unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get
  upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage
  + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1,
  2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for
  all products). The bundles are available for purchase for
  a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that,
  however if you are not on subs you do not get previous
  version usage rights (no change there).
  
  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk
  to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com
  
  http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf
  
  Thanks,
  Jill
  
  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
  [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
  On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  
  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
  exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.
  
  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+
  SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage
  users, say people on this list  + current SI-Community
  Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)
  
  Why such tight limits?
  
  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:
  
  
  
IMHO,  I
  think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
  access to the
  latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
  same amount of

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
I think it is tough to blame any for NOT totally understanding the 
situation.


-Original Message- 
From: Luc-Eric Rousseau

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:04 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on
sub)...

Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite


It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the
webinar and the post here from jill !

The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus
Softimage 2015  and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya
upgrade.
But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it. 



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
I didn’t bite on this.  As I was only 1 sub behind, so in the the old days with 
AVID, I would have been charge
1 back sub and 1 current sub for a total of 1800 to get current. However, our 
good friends at Autodesk, are not as flexible, and have a more 
concrete approach,  if you are off subs you have to upgrade (2500 or discount 
slightly when on special) and then buy subscription on top of that (600 some 
for Maya).

From: phil harbath 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:06 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or 
take).

From: Jason S 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then 
upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:

  I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

--
  From: Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 

  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much 
available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known 
secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

  Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on 
subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 
bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The 
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on 
subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version 
usage rights (no change there).

  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

  
http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

  Thanks,
  Jill

  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a 
bunch of subscribers.

  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people 
on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)

  Why such tight limits?

  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
... 
got 3dsmax for free. 
  
  Lol! xD
  
  
  On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I
just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was
never on sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax
for free. Wohoo!



 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
  Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM

  

  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Lampi
Hurry up and learn 3DS Max, it's the next to be axed.

UX Designer

www.ericlampi.com

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  ...  got 3dsmax for free.

 Lol! xD


 On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:

  I just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was never on
 sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax for free. Wohoo!




 *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
 mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason S
 *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM