Re: Linux GUI weirdness
Ok, its probably not working cause I disabled the x11 patch, it was stopping softimage from starting. I actually disabled the whole folder, was probably too much :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015, 8:17 AM Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > ok it's the "wingdings" font that's used for the checkbox. I think we > ship that with XSI.. Otherwise you'd get it by installing the > Microsoft core font package on linux > > On 4 April 2015 at 19:45, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > > The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about > > font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark > > symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, > > I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's > > focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to > > get access to those settings. > > > > On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot > and are > >> finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage > >> wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are > some > >> of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion > for > >> a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. > >> > >> pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check > mark? > >> > >> lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re > routed > >> to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the > explorer > >> view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing > either a > >> frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production > >> scenes. > >> > >> supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it > >> temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous > mode. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Steven >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
ok it's the "wingdings" font that's used for the checkbox. I think we ship that with XSI.. Otherwise you'd get it by installing the Microsoft core font package on linux On 4 April 2015 at 19:45, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about > font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark > symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, > I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's > focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to > get access to those settings. > > On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: >> Hello, >> >> So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and are >> finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage >> wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some >> of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for >> a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. >> >> pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check mark? >> >> lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re routed >> to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the explorer >> view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing either a >> frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production >> scenes. >> >> supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it >> temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. >> >> Thanks >> Steven
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
*"**Maybe but it's it's good leg!"* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnkY1tBvMU On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Jason S wrote: > On 04/05/15 23:45, Steven Caron wrote: > >> [...] softimage is on its last leg, there will be a time in the future >> where it won't matter. >> > > Maybe but it's it's good leg! > > And ICE acts as a pretty good prothetic limb :) > > And I doubt that time in the future, would be anytime soon, > > But for beyond XSI, I personally have my hopes for BStudio, (or something > like) > > >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
On 04/05/15 23:45, Steven Caron wrote: [...] softimage is on its last leg, there will be a time in the future where it won't matter. Maybe but it's it's good leg! And ICE acts as a pretty good prothetic limb :) And I doubt that time in the future, would be anytime soon, But for beyond XSI, I personally have my hopes for BStudio, (or something like)
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
Hey Simon Any chance you can share some of your configuration info for Softimage on Linux? *written with my thumbs On Apr 4, 2015 10:44 PM, "Simon van de Lagemaat" wrote: > We had the same problem and found out the font that Soft was searching > for, it was something odd. I'll find out what it was on Monday and let you > know how we fixed it. In fact I don't think we ever got a check but > instead it was some odd looking shape. > > The other massive annoyance was how Soft wants to maximise across monitors > and you can't drag a window off the screen, they just bump up against the > edges :-/, this is centos 6 however. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > >> Thanks Luc-Eric... >> >> I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any >> pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >> wrote: >> >>> The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about >>> font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark >>> symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, >>> I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's >>> focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to >>> get access to those settings. >>> >>> On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: >>> >>
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
I can't say I find it crippled to be honest, and these days I find it pretty hard to work on WIndows :) CentOS isn't, admittedly, the most complete or attractive desktop system, but still... at least you have a decent windows manager, configurability, performance (considerable difference), better networking, multiple desktops... I can't wait for win 10, 8 and 7 are bloody prehistoric. Lack of photoshop is really the only drawback these days, of you need it. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Andreas Bystrom wrote: > out of curiosity, what is the point in running linux if you are a small > softimage shop? I use linux every day here and can certainly see the > advantage for a big studio, but if softimage is your main app, why run an > OS that cripples it? > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < > raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> hmm, you mean XSI's own sub windows outside the main client's? XSI does >> maximize to both monitors and snap, but honestly I don't even notice it >> anymore if I want to work on just one monitor, I just meta + middle mouse >> resize it on opening, after that I can move any window outside and over the >> desktop. That's on CentOS 6.2 to 6.6. >> If you mean dragging it off desktop, no, I don't believe it's possible, X >> lets the client window control that behaviour and I suspect mainwin, or >> whatever else deals with the windowing, has it disabled. >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Simon van de Lagemaat < >> si...@theembassyvfx.com> wrote: >> >>> We had the same problem and found out the font that Soft was searching >>> for, it was something odd. I'll find out what it was on Monday and let you >>> know how we fixed it. In fact I don't think we ever got a check but >>> instead it was some odd looking shape. >>> >>> The other massive annoyance was how Soft wants to maximise across >>> monitors and you can't drag a window off the screen, they just bump up >>> against the edges :-/, this is centos 6 however. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Steven Caron wrote: >>> Thanks Luc-Eric... I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about > font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark > symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, > I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's > focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to > get access to those settings. > > On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >> > > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
not my decision, but here are some reasons i can think of... licensing has become a bit of an issue recently. we are seeing more support for linux from our software/hardware partners. nuke and arnold run faster and more efficiently. i am not involved in maintenance of our systems but i am also under the impression that is better. softimage is on its last leg, there will be a time in the future where it won't matter. s On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Andreas Bystrom wrote: > out of curiosity, what is the point in running linux if you are a small > softimage shop? I use linux every day here and can certainly see the > advantage for a big studio, but if softimage is your main app, why run an > OS that cripples it? > > >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
out of curiosity, what is the point in running linux if you are a small softimage shop? I use linux every day here and can certainly see the advantage for a big studio, but if softimage is your main app, why run an OS that cripples it? On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > hmm, you mean XSI's own sub windows outside the main client's? XSI does > maximize to both monitors and snap, but honestly I don't even notice it > anymore if I want to work on just one monitor, I just meta + middle mouse > resize it on opening, after that I can move any window outside and over the > desktop. That's on CentOS 6.2 to 6.6. > If you mean dragging it off desktop, no, I don't believe it's possible, X > lets the client window control that behaviour and I suspect mainwin, or > whatever else deals with the windowing, has it disabled. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Simon van de Lagemaat < > si...@theembassyvfx.com> wrote: > >> We had the same problem and found out the font that Soft was searching >> for, it was something odd. I'll find out what it was on Monday and let you >> know how we fixed it. In fact I don't think we ever got a check but >> instead it was some odd looking shape. >> >> The other massive annoyance was how Soft wants to maximise across >> monitors and you can't drag a window off the screen, they just bump up >> against the edges :-/, this is centos 6 however. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Steven Caron wrote: >> >>> Thanks Luc-Eric... >>> >>> I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any >>> pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >>> wrote: >>> The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to get access to those settings. On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: >>> > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are! >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
hmm, you mean XSI's own sub windows outside the main client's? XSI does maximize to both monitors and snap, but honestly I don't even notice it anymore if I want to work on just one monitor, I just meta + middle mouse resize it on opening, after that I can move any window outside and over the desktop. That's on CentOS 6.2 to 6.6. If you mean dragging it off desktop, no, I don't believe it's possible, X lets the client window control that behaviour and I suspect mainwin, or whatever else deals with the windowing, has it disabled. On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Simon van de Lagemaat < si...@theembassyvfx.com> wrote: > We had the same problem and found out the font that Soft was searching > for, it was something odd. I'll find out what it was on Monday and let you > know how we fixed it. In fact I don't think we ever got a check but > instead it was some odd looking shape. > > The other massive annoyance was how Soft wants to maximise across monitors > and you can't drag a window off the screen, they just bump up against the > edges :-/, this is centos 6 however. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > >> Thanks Luc-Eric... >> >> I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any >> pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >> wrote: >> >>> The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about >>> font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark >>> symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, >>> I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's >>> focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to >>> get access to those settings. >>> >>> On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: >>> >> -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
We had the same problem and found out the font that Soft was searching for, it was something odd. I'll find out what it was on Monday and let you know how we fixed it. In fact I don't think we ever got a check but instead it was some odd looking shape. The other massive annoyance was how Soft wants to maximise across monitors and you can't drag a window off the screen, they just bump up against the edges :-/, this is centos 6 however. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > Thanks Luc-Eric... > > I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any > pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau > wrote: > >> The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about >> font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark >> symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, >> I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's >> focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to >> get access to those settings. >> >> On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: >> >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
Fonts are a PITA on Linux, not because of technical reasons but the licensing of wide spread fonts and the poor choices of developers (availability vs licensing, fortunately it's getting better now). There are good quality open source equivalents for almost all proprietary fonts, but you'll have to install and setup your font manager/XServer to render those as a fallback (there might exist some pre configured packaged to fix this). Unfortunately I'm not familiar with CentOS packages (arch linux here), but I'm pretty sure it's fixable. On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > OK, great! > > I was afraid people were putting up with this stuff. > > *written with my thumbs > On Apr 4, 2015 7:54 PM, "Raffaele Fragapane" > wrote: > >> I can't tell you how to fix it, but I can tell you we're on CentOS and >> all those things work, so at least you know they are fixable. >> Things like supra and alt are often related to automated key press >> interval suppression, auto focus, and holding down alt (change it to meta, >> the windows key) to resize or move windows. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Steven Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and >>> are finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage >>> wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some >>> of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for >>> a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. >>> >>> pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check >>> mark? >>> >>> lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re >>> routed to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the >>> explorer view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing >>> either a frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on >>> production scenes. >>> >>> supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it >>> temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Steven >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >> >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
OK, great! I was afraid people were putting up with this stuff. *written with my thumbs On Apr 4, 2015 7:54 PM, "Raffaele Fragapane" wrote: > I can't tell you how to fix it, but I can tell you we're on CentOS and all > those things work, so at least you know they are fixable. > Things like supra and alt are often related to automated key press > interval suppression, auto focus, and holding down alt (change it to meta, > the windows key) to resize or move windows. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Steven Caron wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and >> are finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage >> wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some >> of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for >> a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. >> >> pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check >> mark? >> >> lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re >> routed to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the >> explorer view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing >> either a frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on >> production scenes. >> >> supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it >> temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. >> >> Thanks >> Steven >> > > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are! >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
I can't tell you how to fix it, but I can tell you we're on CentOS and all those things work, so at least you know they are fixable. Things like supra and alt are often related to automated key press interval suppression, auto focus, and holding down alt (change it to meta, the windows key) to resize or move windows. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Steven Caron wrote: > Hello, > > So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and > are finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage > wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some > of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for > a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. > > pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check mark? > > lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re routed > to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the explorer > view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing either a > frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production > scenes. > > supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it > temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. > > Thanks > Steven > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
Thanks Luc-Eric... I am not sure where to start investigating on the font subject, any pointers? but the window server tip can get me started. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about > font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark > symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, > I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's > focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to > get access to those settings. > > On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: > > Hello, > > > > So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and > are > > finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage > > wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are > some > > of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion > for > > a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. > > > > pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check > mark? > > > > lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re > routed > > to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the > explorer > > view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing > either a > > frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production > > scenes. > > > > supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it > > temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous > mode. > > > > Thanks > > Steven >
Re: Linux GUI weirdness
The missing checkmark in the spreadsheet control is something about font substitution. It's not a bitmap that's used, it's the checkmark symbol. In.. Arial font, perhaps. For the keyboard and the focus, I'm sure something can be fixed by fiddling with the window server's focus-follow-mouse setting. You might need to install something to get access to those settings. On 3 April 2015 at 17:46, Steven Caron wrote: > Hello, > > So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and are > finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage > wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some > of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for > a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. > > pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check mark? > > lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re routed > to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the explorer > view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing either a > frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production > scenes. > > supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it > temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. > > Thanks > Steven
Linux GUI weirdness
Hello, So we are switching over to Linux (CentOS) and we are learning a lot and are finding some weird stuff. I guess it is to be expected since Softimage wasn't really developed with Linux in mind from the start but here are some of the oddities, if anyone can confirm these or provide some suggestion for a workaround or fix, I would be forever grateful. pass options > render channel grid/spreadsheet doesn't show the check mark? lots of issues with views loosing focus causing shortcuts to get re routed to the main application. for example, i use the array keys in the explorer view a lot and they get redirected to the main application causing either a frame to jump or playback to start. really really annoying on production scenes. supra key mode not working? I can't press and hold a key to have it temporarily go into that mode then on release return to the previous mode. Thanks Steven
