Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
Thanks guys, im just installing it One more question if you don’t mind, all Qt applications look the same, maya, nuke, mari, sometimes is hard to tell which one you’re seeing in screenshot does that mean you cannot ‘skin’ Qt window? Give it abit of SI look for example is not possible? From: Simon Anderson Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:46 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) +1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: Under-the-hood stuff: - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. Look-and-feel stuff: - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? From: Tim Crowson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
Please don't give it a bit of SI look. Blah! Its so old school and needs some updating IMO. :) You can skin the UI using CSS (Style sheets). See Ana's message above. You can change it according to some variable which determines which app you're in. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, piotrek marczak piotrek.marc...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks guys, im just installing it [image: Usmiech] One more question if you don’t mind, all Qt applications look the same, maya, nuke, mari, sometimes is hard to tell which one you’re seeing in screenshot does that mean you cannot ‘skin’ Qt window? Give it abit of SI look for example is not possible? *From:* Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:46 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) +1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: *Under-the-hood stuff:* - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. * Look-and-feel stuff:* - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson **Lead CG Artist* *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:* Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use
RE: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Simon Anderson Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 9:47 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) +1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.commailto:ethivie...@gmail.com wrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.commailto:simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: Under-the-hood stuff: - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. Look-and-feel stuff: - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801tel:615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768tel:615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.comhttp://www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what's advantage of using qt over PPG? From: Tim Crowsonmailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801tel:615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768tel:615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.comhttp://www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+100 As for Qt apps looking the 'same', I think that's just because certain conventions work really well for 3D DCC apps (dark gray, lots of controls on the screen). Honestly, you can make apps look just about any way you like. -Tim On 8/30/2012 5:34 AM, Nick Angus wrote: +1 *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Anderson *Sent:* Thursday, 30 August 2012 9:47 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) +1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com wrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com mailto:simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: /Under-the-hood stuff:/ - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. / Look-and-feel stuff:/ - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 tel:615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 tel:615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com http://www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what's advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:*Tim Crowson mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:*softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:*Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. *Tim Crowson
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
SignatureSorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? From: Tim Crowson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez agomezalca...@gmail.com wrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ --
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: /Under-the-hood stuff:/ - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. / Look-and-feel stuff:/ - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Signature Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:* Tim Crowson mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez agomezalca...@gmail.com mailto:agomezalca...@gmail.com wrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ --
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: *Under-the-hood stuff:* - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. * Look-and-feel stuff:* - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson **Lead CG Artist* *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:* Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. *Tim Crowson **Lead CG Artist* *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez agomezalca...@gmail.comwrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ -- -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: *Under-the-hood stuff:* - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. * Look-and-feel stuff:* - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson **Lead CG Artist* *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:* Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's interactive debugging, for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. *Tim Crowson **Lead CG Artist* *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez agomezalca...@gmail.comwrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ -- -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ --
