Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+100
As for Qt apps looking the 'same', I think that's just because certain
conventions work really well for 3D DCC apps (dark gray, lots of
controls on the screen). Honestly, you can make apps look just about any
way you like.
-Tim
On 8/30/2012 5:34 AM, Nick Angus wrote:
+1
*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon
Anderson
*Sent:* Thursday, 30 August 2012 9:47 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon
v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge <mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool
(asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it
consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and
it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small
tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming.
PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar
with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the
Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to
create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box.
Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt
implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my
subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D
Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson
<mailto:simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and
usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past
I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and
interactive tools.
The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a
plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd
party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do
that then you can have some really great tools.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson
<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote:
That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More
experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG
options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt
offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category.
I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some
practical highlights:
/Under-the-hood stuff:/
- A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not
limited to on_clicked() or on_changed())
- Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across
your UI! This is big!
- The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes.
- UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs
a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than
just Softimage stuff.
/
Look-and-feel stuff:/
- Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at
the top
- Buttons defined to look any way you like
- Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly
(including Slider layouts which can be collapsed)
- Dockable widgets
- Tree views!
- Menu bars!
- Status bar!
- Toolbars!
- Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS.
I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples
to really demonstrate how useful it is.
*Tim Crowson
*/Lead CG Artist/
*Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc.
*2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214
*Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768
| www.magneticdreams.com
<http://www.magneticdreams.com>
tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com <mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>
On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote:
Sorry for stupid question, but what's advantage of using qt over PPG?
*From:*Tim Crowson <mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM
*To:*softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Subject:*Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon
v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I
especially like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a
better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused
variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So
many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow
is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a
PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and
then for one-of
RE: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Simon Anderson Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 9:47 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) +1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson mailto:simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com>> wrote: As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote: That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: Under-the-hood stuff: - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. Look-and-feel stuff: - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com<http://www.magneticdreams.com> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Sorry for stupid question, but what's advantage of using qt over PPG? From: Tim Crowson<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com<http://www.magneticdreams.com> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, bu
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
Please don't give it a bit of SI look. Blah! Its so old school and needs some updating IMO. :) You can "skin" the UI using CSS (Style sheets). See Ana's message above. You can change it according to some variable which determines which app you're in. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: > Thanks guys, im just installing it [image: Usmiech] > One more question if you don’t mind, > all Qt applications look the same, > maya, nuke, mari, sometimes is hard to tell which one you’re seeing in > screenshot > does that mean you cannot ‘skin’ Qt window? Give it abit of SI look for > example is not possible? > > *From:* Simon Anderson > *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:46 AM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon > v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) > > +1 > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: > >> Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset >> loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across >> apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the >> same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously >> for the actual renaming. >> >> PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with >> python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage >> PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely >> spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. >> >> Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt >> implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my >> subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D >> >> >> Eric Thivierge >> http://www.ethivierge.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson < >> simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and >>> usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I >>> have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and >>> interactive tools. >>> >>> The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a >>> plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party >>> plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you >>> can have some really great tools. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson < >>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More >>>> experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options >>>> in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by >>>> 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly >>>> cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: >>>> >>>> *Under-the-hood stuff:* >>>> - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not >>>> limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) >>>> - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across >>>> your UI! This is big! >>>> - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. >>>> - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a >>>> Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just >>>> Softimage stuff. >>>> * >>>> Look-and-feel stuff:* >>>> - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at >>>> the top >>>> - Buttons defined to look any way you like >>>> - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including >>>> Slider layouts which can be collapsed) >>>> - Dockable widgets >>>> - Tree views! >>>> - Menu bars! >>>> - Status bar! >>>> - Toolbars! >>>> - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. >>>> >>>> I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to >>>> really demonstrate how useful it is. >>>> >>>> *Tim Crowson >>>>
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
Thanks guys, im just installing it
One more question if you don’t mind,
all Qt applications look the same,
maya, nuke, mari, sometimes is hard to tell which one you’re seeing in
screenshot
does that mean you cannot ‘skin’ Qt window? Give it abit of SI look for example
is not possible?
From: Simon Anderson
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:46 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon
v1.14:fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote:
Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset
loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps.
Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya
as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual
renaming.
PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with
python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG
widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs
in Softimage out of the box.
Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt
implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription
money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D
Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson
wrote:
As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy
extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen
entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools.
The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin
and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to
get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some
really great tools.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson
wrote:
That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced
people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage
are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I
mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences,
but I can hit some practical highlights:
Under-the-hood stuff:
- A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not
limited to on_clicked() or on_changed())
- Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your
UI! This is big!
- The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes.
- UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a
Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage
stuff.
Look-and-feel stuff:
- Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at
the top
- Buttons defined to look any way you like
- Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including
Slider layouts which can be collapsed)
- Dockable widgets
- Tree views!
- Menu bars!
- Status bar!
- Toolbars!
- Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS.
I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to
really demonstrate how useful it is.
Tim Crowson
Lead CG Artist
Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc.
2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214
Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com
tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com
On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote:
Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG?
From: Tim Crowson
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14:
fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially
like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it
instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables,
etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too.
So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that
as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then
for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment.
Tim Crowson
Lead CG Artist
Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc.
2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214
Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com
tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
+1 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: > Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset > loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across > apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the > same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously > for the actual renaming. > > PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with > python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage > PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely > spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. > > Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt > implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my > subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.ethivierge.com > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson < > simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and >> usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I >> have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and >> interactive tools. >> >> The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin >> and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party >> plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you >> can have some really great tools. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson < >> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote: >> >>> That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More >>> experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options >>> in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by >>> 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly >>> cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: >>> >>> *Under-the-hood stuff:* >>> - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not >>> limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) >>> - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across >>> your UI! This is big! >>> - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. >>> - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a >>> Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just >>> Softimage stuff. >>> * >>> Look-and-feel stuff:* >>> - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at >>> the top >>> - Buttons defined to look any way you like >>> - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including >>> Slider layouts which can be collapsed) >>> - Dockable widgets >>> - Tree views! >>> - Menu bars! >>> - Status bar! >>> - Toolbars! >>> - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. >>> >>> I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to >>> really demonstrate how useful it is. >>> >>> *Tim Crowson >>> **Lead CG Artist* >>> >>> *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. >>> *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 >>> *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com >>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: >>> >>> Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? >>> >>> *From:* Tim Crowson >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM >>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon >>> v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) >>> >>> As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially >>> like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it >>> instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, >>> etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse >>> too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then >>> set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every >>
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
Also to note, if you're in a mixed pipeline but need the same tool (asset loader for example) creating the UI in Qt will keep it consistant across apps. Recently I ported my renamer tool to PyQt and it looks exactly the same in Maya as it does in Softimage. Small tweaks to the code obviously for the actual renaming. PyQt is a pythonic way of creating UIs as well so if you're familiar with python programming, creating UIs will feel more natural than the Softimage PPG widgets. As Tim said above, it's infuriatingly hard to create nicely spaced UIs in Softimage out of the box. Also if any of the devs are reading, please can we get a built in PyQt implementation? Pretty please? If I had a choice as to where my subscription money went, I'd put it all towards that. :D Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Simon Anderson < simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com> wrote: > As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy > extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have > writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive > tools. > > The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin > and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party > plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you > can have some really great tools. > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson < > tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote: > >> That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More >> experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options >> in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by >> 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly >> cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: >> >> *Under-the-hood stuff:* >> - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not >> limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) >> - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your >> UI! This is big! >> - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. >> - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a >> Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just >> Softimage stuff. >> * >> Look-and-feel stuff:* >> - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at >> the top >> - Buttons defined to look any way you like >> - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including >> Slider layouts which can be collapsed) >> - Dockable widgets >> - Tree views! >> - Menu bars! >> - Status bar! >> - Toolbars! >> - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. >> >> I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to >> really demonstrate how useful it is. >> >> *Tim Crowson >> **Lead CG Artist* >> >> *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. >> *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 >> *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com >> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com >> >> >> >> On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: >> >> Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? >> >> *From:* Tim Crowson >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: >> fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) >> >> As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially >> like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it >> instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, >> etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse >> too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then >> set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every >> now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. >> >> *Tim Crowson >> **Lead CG Artist* >> >> *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. >> *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 >> *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com >> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com >> >> >> On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
As Tim wrote, what ever you can imagen you can achieve with Qt, and usualy extremly rappidly due to the structure of the API. In the past I have writen entire project tracking systems, and some really fun and interactive tools. The only down side to QT is that at the moment if you do develop a plugin and a user wasnt to run it they have to install a bunch of 3rd party plugins to get the software to run, but if your willing to do that then you can have some really great tools. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: > That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced > people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in > Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by > 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly > cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: > > *Under-the-hood stuff:* > - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not > limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) > - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your > UI! This is big! > - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. > - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a > Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just > Softimage stuff. > * > Look-and-feel stuff:* > - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the > top > - Buttons defined to look any way you like > - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including > Slider layouts which can be collapsed) > - Dockable widgets > - Tree views! > - Menu bars! > - Status bar! > - Toolbars! > - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. > > I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to > really demonstrate how useful it is. > > *Tim Crowson > **Lead CG Artist* > > *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. > *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 > *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com > tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com > > > > On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: > > Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? > > *From:* Tim Crowson > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: > fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) > > As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially > like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it > instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, > etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse > too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then > set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every > now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. > > *Tim Crowson > **Lead CG Artist* > > *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. > *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 > *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com > tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com > > > On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: > > Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and > install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich > can be very helpful. > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez wrote: > >> Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: >> >> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html >> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > --- > Simon Ben Anderson > blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
That's not a stupid question. I'll answer as best I can. More experienced people can correct me and add their own voices. The PPG options in Softimage are substantially more limited than what Qt offers. And by 'substantially,' I mean not even in the same category. I can't possibly cover all the differences, but I can hit some practical highlights: /Under-the-hood stuff:/ - A great variety of signals for defining more specific callbacks (not limited to on_clicked() or on_changed()) - Model view programming, to efficiently store and share data across your UI! This is big! - The full power of the Qt library, which contains over 400 classes. - UI files created in QtDesigner can be loaded into any app that runs a Python Qt library (as far as I know). So it's good for more than just Softimage stuff. / Look-and-feel stuff:/ - Tab Widgets anywhere you want. You're not limited to placing them at the top - Buttons defined to look any way you like - Intelligent 'Layouts' that resize their contents elegantly (including Slider layouts which can be collapsed) - Dockable widgets - Tree views! - Menu bars! - Status bar! - Toolbars! - Extremely detailed control over the design via CSS. I could go on, but perhaps we need some people to post more examples to really demonstrate how useful it is. *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/29/2012 3:17 PM, piotrek marczak wrote: Signature Sorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? *From:* Tim Crowson <mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Subject:* Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez <mailto:agomezalca...@gmail.com>> wrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ --
Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu)
SignatureSorry for stupid question, but what’s advantage of using qt over PPG? From: Tim Crowson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Some more questions about PyQt in Softimage (addon v1.14: fixesbutton size and adds command to Soft menu) As a matter of fact, Simon, that's the exact setup I use! I especially like Eclipse's "interactive debugging", for lack of a better term, where it instantly highlights syntax errors, unused variables, undefinied variables, etc. Really speeds things up! So many other things to like about Eclipse too. So far, my workflow is to create a new addon directory from Soft, then set that as a PyDev project in Eclipse. I still use Sublime Text 2 every now and then for one-offs, but Eclipse my main environment. Tim Crowson Lead CG Artist Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 8/28/2012 6:25 PM, Simon Anderson wrote: Im not sure what Dev Environment you are using, but if you use eclipse and install pyDev for it, when you develop for Qt you get auto completion, wich can be very helpful. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Ana Gomez wrote: Life with stylesheet becomes easier when you find this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-reference.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet-examples.html -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ --
