Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Unfortunately I don't have the opportunity to attend Siggraph. I have not attended before so unsure of the feasibility but as a suggestion: An intro and outro slate to the Softimage showreel (if this is being planned) where we have a mosaic of portrait pictures of artists who use Softimage with thumbs down or simply looking displeased. If its a slate on the showreel it could pull out to reveal the Softimage logo. This could also work as a series of posters etc People could upload a portrait (to a given image spec) to a dropbox shared a folder. Just a thought... J On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Andres Stephens drais...@outlook.com wrote: +1 -Draise PH: +57 313 811 6821 *From:* Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl *Sent:* Thursday, June 12, 2014 15:11 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Steven Caron schreef op 12-6-2014 19:42: could we make a reel and have it in the animation theatre? too late for submissions? An unofficial EOL reel comprising the greatest hits released after the official retirement might be something still worth looking into even if you can't get it submitted in time for Siggraph. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
I don't think you'd need a big intro and/or outro, the fact the reel got made should speak for itself and you could open with a simple statement: In March 2014 Autodesk annnounced the retirement of Softimage, this is what happened since... or words to that effect... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
i agree,adding faces of users to the statment would bring the issue to a plane of not being just a piece of software,but a tool that provides a livelihood to so many people. Rui - Original Message - From: Jon Hunt To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Softimage at Siggraph? Some of that didn't even make sense! An intro and outro slate to the Softimage showreel (if this is being planned) we could have have a mosaic of portrait pictures of artists who use Softimage with... J On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Jon Hunt jonathan.m.h...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I don't have the opportunity to attend Siggraph. I have not attended before so unsure of the feasibility but as a suggestion: An intro and outro slate to the Softimage showreel (if this is being planned) where we have a mosaic of portrait pictures of artists who use Softimage with thumbs down or simply looking displeased. If its a slate on the showreel it could pull out to reveal the Softimage logo. This could also work as a series of posters etc People could upload a portrait (to a given image spec) to a dropbox shared a folder. Just a thought... J On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Andres Stephens drais...@outlook.com wrote: +1 -Draise PH: +57 313 811 6821 From: Leendert A. Hartog Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 15:11 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Steven Caron schreef op 12-6-2014 19:42: could we make a reel and have it in the animation theatre? too late for submissions? An unofficial EOL reel comprising the greatest hits released after the official retirement might be something still worth looking into even if you can't get it submitted in time for Siggraph. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com --- Este email está livre de vírus e malware porque a proteção avast! Antivirus está ativa. http://www.avast.com
Softimage at Siggraph?
Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
get mob go to AD stand throw red die balloons at them shouting murderers On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
I'm hoping the Softimage User dinner is still on. Adam / Matt? As for a protest type thing... meh... Eric T. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:54:48 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: get mob go to AD stand throw red die balloons at them shouting murderers On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com http://si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
ofc it wont happen just.. expressing feelings ;) U know old story but still ;) On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: I'm hoping the Softimage User dinner is still on. Adam / Matt? As for a protest type thing... meh... Eric T. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:54:48 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: get mob go to AD stand throw red die balloons at them shouting murderers On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com http://si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Well there are always options that aren't as extreme as throwing red die balloons at Autodesk and not as extremely low-profile as a Softimage user dinner... ;) -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Being? If you want something to happen you need to pull things together and start actually discussing what could happen and what you want to happen and for what purpose. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:00:21 AM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Well there are always options that aren't as extreme as throwing red die balloons at Autodesk and not as extremely low-profile as a Softimage user dinner... ;)
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Funny that. I was just trying to figure out what happened to all the fighting spirit of a couple of months back. I for one won't be organizing anything for Siggraph, as I can't attend, but IIRC some relatively realistic (no red die balloons!) ideas among some less realistic (red die balloons!) were already mentioned. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
What about, instead of throwing your wallets at AD you throw them at someone else :) , that always gets a reaction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: Throwing poo is good enouh ? Le 12/06/2014 12:54, Mirko Jankovic a écrit : get mob go to AD stand throw red die balloons at them shouting murderers On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Red dye Throwing poo Well, you can bet that nobody involved with the decision to axe Softimage even knows what SIGGRAPH is, let alone be at the ME booth for it, so any sort of thing that might annoy the booth staff and make their jobs harder will do just that and not much else. Heck, it's fairly obvious that the axe folks didn't even know what Softimage was beyond a number on a spreadsheet or it wouldn't be EOL right now. I do agree that there have got to be constructive, organizational, and beneficial things that can be done in spite of the EOL verdict on the platform of SIGGRAPH. -Eric
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
Voting with your wallet is the only effective way. From: Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.commailto:ognj...@gmail.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Thursday 12 June 2014 at 4:23 PM To: softimage softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage at Siggraph? What about, instead of throwing your wallets at AD you throw them at someone else :) , that always gets a reaction. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frmailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: Throwing poo is good enouh ? table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
True, but voting with your wallet doesn't necessarily preclude making a possibly very small symbolic gesture... There are still people working with Softimage, even if the company has quit the software. The gesture would be FOR them, not against Autodesk IMHO. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
But in general it is agreed that something must happen. On 12 June 2014 16:32, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: True, but voting with your wallet doesn't necessarily preclude making a possibly very small symbolic gesture... There are still people working with Softimage, even if the company has quit the software. The gesture would be FOR them, not against Autodesk IMHO. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
I think an unofficial booth showcasing things like that of Softimage.TV would be awesome, have some monitors, a playlist, and the SI paraphernalia - show people, and then have them spurred by the slogan “All this, the tools and the talen that made this, is at the brink of extinction” and do some kind of petition signing thing? It wouldn’t be hard to organize - print some banners - setup some booth reps - showcase work - games, movies (lego movie perhaps? Nike football? Things from blur, whiskeytree, etc) Or even maybe make it more of a VFX greenscreen protest event also, petition to save the software that helped movies like X who gave X people jobs - and now in 2016 they will possibly loose those jobs due to re-education and/or incapable software. Movies with scenes like X and X will not be possible if it were not for the dynamic non-destructive tools of SI. Just… A booth of a sort, not just for SI, but VFX artists worried of their future………. I’m far away, so I can’t really help, but I would. Just thoughts. SIGGRAPH is nearly opening up here, but I am not sure if I can set up a panel though - I should look into it. Hmm…… Yeh, it’s a bit lame of an effort that probably won’t sway any masses , but oh well, still in the bitter denial, wishful thinking stage….. “Be progressive, keep developing and making what already has been built! Somehow!” motivation. Millions of lines of code gone to the chops, sucks…. -Draise Ph: +57 313 811 6821 From: Sebastien Sterling Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:03 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com But in general it is agreed that something must happen. On 12 June 2014 16:32, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: True, but voting with your wallet doesn't necessarily preclude making a possibly very small symbolic gesture... There are still people working with Softimage, even if the company has quit the software. The gesture would be FOR them, not against Autodesk IMHO. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
could we make a reel and have it in the animation theatre? too late for submissions? On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: I would think organising these booth scenarios is very expensive and will imply people on the booth, etc... I would suggest give away tshirts or other paraphernalia (non-throw away) with a message to showcase the situation. The key will be the message to be sent to be show professional attitude. Something than any max or maya user will be happy to display and ask everybody to wear it at the Autodesk party. Hope it makes sense Job
RE: Softimage at Siggraph?
Let's not do the protest thingy. It speaks more about the protester than the cause. My SIGGRAPH attendance is up in the air as we just launched a product. As for dinner, most years I've held it on Sunday as its easiest to reserve and the least scheduled evening of the conference. I typically don't formalize arrangements until a week or two before the conference because most restaurants don't accept reservations beyond one week in advance without a cash deposit, and asking for travel/schedule of dinner attendees has been very unreliable at best because people are working on projects up to the last minute and/or jockeying to get into the studio parties and user groups. I literally don't know who will show up until we get to the restaurant, which makes it very difficult to plan and limits options. SIGGRAPH is a little later this year. Don't look for any dinner information from me until last week of July or first week of August. I'll get in touch with Adam offline to see what's up on his end. I'll definitely have the dinner next year and in 2016 as SIGGRAPH is in southern California both those years. I'm thinking 2016 should be the big sendoff as that's the first dinner after Softimage support officially ends. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:50 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage at Siggraph? I'm hoping the Softimage User dinner is still on. Adam / Matt? As for a protest type thing... meh... Eric T. On Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:54:48 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: get mob go to AD stand throw red die balloons at them shouting murderers On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Back when the wounds of the retirement of Softimage were still fresh, there was some talk on this list about ensuring some kind of presence for Softimage at this year's Siggraph. Is something like this still in the works, however minimal this might be, or has this died as being too impractical? Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com http://si-community.com
Re: Softimage at Siggraph?
I think a documentary film about AD's predatory tactics along the lines of who killed the electric car might get get some attention at siggraph. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: could we make a reel and have it in the animation theatre? too late for submissions? On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: I would think organising these booth scenarios is very expensive and will imply people on the booth, etc... I would suggest give away tshirts or other paraphernalia (non-throw away) with a message to showcase the situation. The key will be the message to be sent to be show professional attitude. Something than any max or maya user will be happy to display and ask everybody to wear it at the Autodesk party. Hope it makes sense Job
