Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Like a said NOT A REAL RADIO but a recording !!! Ernie On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Token t_o_k_e...@hotmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list The explanation has been given. He was reporting a numbers station heard on Hamsphere. Not a real transmission, but a recording that is played on the ham radio simulation of Hamshpere. No actual radio transmitters, receivers, or antennas, are actually part of the Hamsphere simulation. To answer your question, it is the real thing in that it is a real recording of LP, however it is a recording made years ago, not a new signal actually transmitted over air today. You can hear it almost non-stop on one frequency or another on Hamsphere. T! --** From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:20 AM To: robertlewis2000 robertlewis2...@hotmail.com; Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list I wonder if it's the real thing or if someone is playing an old recording? Hard to say these days. Do you actually have an antenna capable of getting a bearing? Zack On 10/6/13, robertlewis2000 robertlewis2...@hotmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Using HF phone appt to pick up Lincolnshire poacher 73 Sent from Samsung Mobile __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Remember that when you think you have it all figured out... you wake up to start all over again! Trust yourself and MOST times you will not be disappointed __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Token t_o_k_e...@hotmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The explanation has been given. He was reporting a numbers station heard on Hamsphere. Not a real transmission, but a recording that is played on the ham radio simulation of Hamshpere. No actual radio transmitters, receivers, or antennas, are actually part of the Hamsphere simulation. To answer your question, it is the real thing in that it is a real recording of LP, however it is a recording made years ago, not a new signal actually transmitted over air today. You can hear it almost non-stop on one frequency or another on Hamsphere. T! -- From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:20 AM To: robertlewis2000 robertlewis2...@hotmail.com; Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I wonder if it's the real thing or if someone is playing an old recording? Hard to say these days. Do you actually have an antenna capable of getting a bearing? Zack On 10/6/13, robertlewis2000 robertlewis2...@hotmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Using HF phone appt to pick up Lincolnshire poacher 73 Sent from Samsung Mobile __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you're limiting yourself to shortwave, that may be true. I got interested in VHF/UHF/microwave/mmwave weak-signal work a number of years ago. It's a whole new world. The others interested in this facet of ham radio are not the same as most of the HF ops. Almost all are willing to give a hand, get new people involved and on the air. Almost all are very technically competent and have something useful to contribute. Sort of breathes new life into the hobby. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not true in my area! Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 12:09, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you're limiting yourself to shortwave, that may be true. I got interested in VHF/UHF/microwave/mmwave weak-signal work a number of years ago. It's a whole new world. The others interested in this facet of ham radio are not the same as most of the HF ops. Almost all are willing to give a hand, get new people involved and on the air. Almost all are very technically competent and have something useful to contribute. Sort of breathes new life into the hobby. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Where do you live? On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not true in my area! Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 12:09, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you're limiting yourself to shortwave, that may be true. I got interested in VHF/UHF/microwave/mmwave weak-signal work a number of years ago. It's a whole new world. The others interested in this facet of ham radio are not the same as most of the HF ops. Almost all are willing to give a hand, get new people involved and on the air. Almost all are very technically competent and have something useful to contribute. Sort of breathes new life into the hobby. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Sorry.I am not divulging my location. Let's just say 8 land Ernie On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Where do you live? On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not true in my area! Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 12:09, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you're limiting yourself to shortwave, that may be true. I got interested in VHF/UHF/microwave/mmwave weak-signal work a number of years ago. It's a whole new world. The others interested in this facet of ham radio are not the same as most of the HF ops. Almost all are willing to give a hand, get new people involved and on the air. Almost all are very technically competent and have something useful to contribute. Sort of breathes new life into the hobby. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real transmissions that much more interesting, even if you're just scanning bands and not participating in amateur radio (which is also a blast). And doesn't hamsphere have some kind of subscription cost?! Please, tell me what the appeal is so I can die knowing. -Kevin __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I know a lot of W8's who would be Elmers for VHF weak-signal work. Note I am NOT talking about FM. I'm talking about the guys who do SSB and CW on VHF+ bands. Zack On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Radionut R ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Sorry.I am not divulging my location. Let's just say 8 land Ernie On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Where do you live? On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not true in my area! Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 12:09, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you're limiting yourself to shortwave, that may be true. I got interested in VHF/UHF/microwave/mmwave weak-signal work a number of years ago. It's a whole new world. The others interested in this facet of ham radio are not the same as most of the HF ops. Almost all are willing to give a hand, get new people involved and on the air. Almost all are very technically competent and have something useful to contribute. Sort of breathes new life into the hobby. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And most hams still won't help. I am letting my ticket expire because the hobby is no longer fun or useful. Hams talk about CB ad chicken band or low lives. Go to 80 m on any night and listen to the crap up there. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:46, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list From reading the comments on the site, a lot of people use it as a simulator to help them as they study for their ham licenses. Current hams use it as a way to elmer newcomers. That alone has some value, bec. when I tried to become a ham as a teen I found most didn't want to bother to lend a hand. On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Zack Widup wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If there are signals long-since departed from the airwaves on Hamsphere, perhaps nostalgia? That's all I can think of. I picked up a small portable shortwave radio at a ham auction for $10 a few months ago. It needed a bit of repair work but is a nice little radio. I'm pretty sure similar radios for similar prices can be had on eBay. Also, my Yaesu VX-6 does a decent job of receiving on the shortwave bands when it has a decent antenna. The only problem I might see with those is the need for an adaptor for the SMA connector it uses for the antenna. But those are also easy to come by. 73, Zack (W9SZ) On 10/7/13, Rick Hampton rickhamp...@comcast.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list According to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamSphere) you're pretty much dead on with your assessment. I ran across it a while back and couldn't understand why anyone would take the time to build something that emulates the worst part of a real radio circuit, and from the comments I've read, does so only poorly. Apparently, there is a niche (but not a huge niche) for people who like the idea of dealing with noise, static, etc, but don't have the wherewithal to either get real radios or the license to operate them. That doesn't include me, but to each his own... Rick On 10/7/2013 7:28 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Can someone explain what the appeal of Hamsphere is? I have played with it a few times, and I just can't get over the fact that nothing is really transmitting on frequencies. It's not much different than a voice chat server with a ton of channels. It seems like a nice way to play with the concepts without needing the equipment, but other than a really really basic learning tool, how is it practical in any way? There's something that having laws to restrict transmissions on real frequencies and the need for relatively costly equipment that makes real
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Na I am done with ham and it's close minded attitude I have sold most if my gear anyway. Even if I did stay in good gear is beyond my monetary means. I am going to get a better SWL/cb radio gear. I sold most of my CB 11 m when I got into ham took almost all the money I had to buy the basic ham gear Now I'm selling it back to get back into 11 m and shortwave again I'm done with ham close minded snobs I'm done with them. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 13:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list See ya! John At 01:57 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Na I am done with ham and it's close minded attitude I have sold most if my gear anyway. Even if I did stay in good gear is beyond my monetary means. I am going to get a better SWL/cb radio gear. I sold most of my CB 11 m when I got into ham took almost all the money I had to buy the basic ham gear Now I'm selling it back to get back into 11 m and shortwave again I'm done with ham close minded snobs I'm done with them. Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 13:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You may tar the world with one brush, but if you look around there are more colours and brushes to choose from. I am a ham, I am not a snob and I rather think judging the whole by examining the remainder isn't the way to gauge the world. I also have spent significant time on 11M and I don't judge people collectively there, I have met some rather obnoxious people on all bands, and by the same token I have met many rather nice people on all bands. I have found the some of the worst people on 11M more often or not, and have seen the demise of 11M in some areas purely due to the minority's stuck up attitude. I don't know where you're from but I only wish you'd seen my local club, whose interests are vast, who's main focus is to support the education in the hobby and it's expansive knowledge is open to all. We have all ages ranging from very young to rather elderly and the old teach the young and conversely the old have learnt equally as much from the young. Some members enjoy contests, some enjoy specific bands, other only listen like us, and some like data modes, and I like to dabble in everything, including satellite work. So, I ask you, do you think I am a snob? Dennis Smith M1DLG On 7 October 2013 18:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Dennis Smith M1DLG __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi Parrish: Yes. Same goes for military radios. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list In the United States, yes. Carole - Original Message - From: Parrish S. Knight pianodw...@gmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. Iyi geceler, Ted in Turkey From: ccsele...@earthlink.net To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:22:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list In the United States, yes. Carole - Original Message - From: Parrish S. Knight pianodw...@gmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I’m mostly just mulling things over. I’m new to shortwave and don’t take it very seriously, but I’m finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I’d like to figure out whether it’s because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I’m overlooking something else, or simply because I’m doing something wrong. I’d say it’s most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I agree... But the question was whether it was lawful, not whether it made sense! Carole - Original Message - From: Ted Van Beurden tedvanbeur...@hotmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. Iyi geceler, Ted in Turkey __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Do you offer to help others? Have you? I am referring to the hams in my area NOT all hams but hams in another area can't hep me here can they? OK I have ranted enough GEE thanks John for your help NOT!!! E On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Smith m1dl...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You may tar the world with one brush, but if you look around there are more colours and brushes to choose from. I am a ham, I am not a snob and I rather think judging the whole by examining the remainder isn't the way to gauge the world. I also have spent significant time on 11M and I don't judge people collectively there, I have met some rather obnoxious people on all bands, and by the same token I have met many rather nice people on all bands. I have found the some of the worst people on 11M more often or not, and have seen the demise of 11M in some areas purely due to the minority's stuck up attitude. I don't know where you're from but I only wish you'd seen my local club, whose interests are vast, who's main focus is to support the education in the hobby and it's expansive knowledge is open to all. We have all ages ranging from very young to rather elderly and the old teach the young and conversely the old have learnt equally as much from the young. Some members enjoy contests, some enjoy specific bands, other only listen like us, and some like data modes, and I like to dabble in everything, including satellite work. So, I ask you, do you think I am a snob? Dennis Smith M1DLG On 7 October 2013 18:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Dennis Smith M1DLG __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Remember that when you think you have it all figured out... you wake up to start all over again! Trust yourself and MOST times you will not be disappointed __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list When you throw a bomb on the way out the door, you would expect roses. I just wished you a fond farewell. Have a nice time on 11m. John At 02:27 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list See what I am saying? Just look at John's post!!! WOW Ernie On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM, john joh...@nc.rr.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list See ya! John WARNING: The remainder of this message has not been transferred. The estimated size of this message is 10584 bytes. Click on the Retrieve From Server icon above and check mail again to get the whole thing. (If you're reading this in the preview pane, you'll need to open the message to see the icon.) If the Retrieve From Server icon is not showing, then this message is no longer on the server. III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list ITed, it's probably both. Even a cheapish table top used SW receiver with a random wire will pick up numbers stations , hams, SWBC stations, etc. A budget portable with a whip MAY be able to pick them up if you have experience with SW listening and are patient, but you'd do much better to get an Icom R71, or a Kenwood 2000, or something affordable like that, and run a wire as far as you can (even if it's just tacked to the ceiling down the hallway). A whip and an inexpensive portable is not going to be easy! John At 02:29 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I'm mostly just mulling things over. I'm new to shortwave and don't take it very seriously, but I'm finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I'd like to figure out whether it's because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I'm overlooking something else, or simply because I'm doing something wrong. I'd say it's most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The Grundig came with a wire, but I’ve tried the Grundig both with and without it, and even with both antennas attached, and haven’t had any luck picking up anything but fairly strong local stations. Thank you for the suggestions about gear, I’ll take a look at those. Hmm. If a small portable is so problematic, I wonder how it is that spies use them. Or maybe the don’t use them? Dunno. (Obviously.) On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, john wrote: ITed, it's probably both. Even a cheapish table top used SW receiver with a random wire will pick up numbers stations , hams, SWBC stations, etc. A budget portable with a whip MAY be able to pick them up if you have experience with SW listening and are patient, but you'd do much better to get an Icom R71, or a Kenwood 2000, or something affordable like that, and run a wire as far as you can (even if it's just tacked to the ceiling down the hallway). A whip and an inexpensive portable is not going to be easy! __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list John, You can bet that I will!! When I need help with a radio or putting an antenna up the local cb ops are the first one here. Ham was never fun to me. When I went to a local club tto ask about help with studying for me test I was told we don't want cbers in ham. I told them thank you very much. They to;d me I wold NEVER pass the test without their help. I went to the next exam and passed with a perfect score. Anyway John have a nice day and you are proof of my point On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, john joh...@nc.rr.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list When you throw a bomb on the way out the door, you would expect roses. I just wished you a fond farewell. Have a nice time on 11m. John At 02:27 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list See what I am saying? Just look at John's post!!! WOW Ernie On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM, john joh...@nc.rr.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spooks http:/**/mailman.qth.net/mailman/**listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list See ya! John WARNING: The remainder of this message has not been transferred. The estimated size of this message is 10584 bytes. Click on the Retrieve From Server icon above and check mail again to get the whole thing. (If you're reading this in the preview pane, you'll need to open the message to see the icon.) If the Retrieve From Server icon is not showing, then this message is no longer on the server. III __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Remember that when you think you have it all figured out... you wake up to start all over again! Trust yourself and MOST times you will not be disappointed __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You're replying to the wrong sender (Dennis is not John) but to your point yes, I've helped many folks get started in ham radio, or re-kindle their enjoyment of it (even though it isn't an it...there's CW, DXing , ragchewing, contesting, moonbounce, satellite, homebrewing, QRP, and dozens of other facets). Too bad it didn't work out for you. John At 02:30 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Do you offer to help others? Have you? I am referring to the hams in my area NOT all hams but hams in another area can't hep me here can they? OK I have ranted enough GEE thanks John for your help NOT!!! E On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Dennis Smith m1dl...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You may tar the world with one brush, but if you look around there are more colours and brushes to choose from. I am a ham, I am not a snob and I rather think judging the whole by examining the remainder isn't the way to gauge the world. WARNING: The remainder of this message has not been transferred. The estimated size of this message is 10541 bytes. Click on the Retrieve From Server icon above and check mail again to get the whole thing. (If you're reading this in the preview pane, you'll need to open the message to see the icon.) If the Retrieve From Server icon is not showing, then this message is no longer on the server. III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Thanks, but that's not my post. Mine ended with the phrase just my view. Dunno how it got mixed in with another post. - Ted From: pianodw...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:37:29 -0400 To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The Grundig came with a wire, but I’ve tried the Grundig both with and without it, and even with both antennas attached, and haven’t had any luck picking up anything but fairly strong local stations. Thank you for the suggestions about gear, I’ll take a look at those. Hmm. If a small portable is so problematic, I wonder how it is that spies use them. Or maybe the don’t use them? Dunno. (Obviously.) On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, john wrote: ITed, it's probably both. Even a cheapish table top used SW receiver with a random wire will pick up numbers stations , hams, SWBC stations, etc. A budget portable with a whip MAY be able to pick them up if you have experience with SW listening and are patient, but you'd do much better to get an Icom R71, or a Kenwood 2000, or something affordable like that, and run a wire as far as you can (even if it's just tacked to the ceiling down the hallway). A whip and an inexpensive portable is not going to be easy! __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] SWLing and portables
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If you don't notice a significant difference in background noise levels and signal strengths of stations when you attache a long wire to the receiver, there's something wrong with the radio, or the way the antenna is being attached. Is it a wire that attaches directly to the built in whip? Most long wires that come with receivers aren't very long.What happens if you moisten your finger tips and touch the whip? does the background noise jump up some? Do you hear WWV at 5/10/15 Mhz at any time? John At 02:37 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The Grundig came with a wire, but I've tried the Grundig both with and without it, and even with both antennas attached, and haven't had any luck picking up anything but fairly strong local stations. Thank you for the suggestions about gear, I'll take a look at those. Hmm. If a small portable is so problematic, I wonder how it is that spies use them. Or maybe the don't use them? Dunno. (Obviously.) On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, john wrote: ITed, it's probably both. Even a cheapish table top used SW receiver with a random wire will pick up numbers stations , hams, SWBC stations, etc. A budget portable with a whip MAY be able to pick them up if you have experience with SW listening and are patient, but you'd do much better to get an Icom R71, or a Kenwood 2000, or something affordable like that, and run a wire as far as you can (even if it's just tacked to the ceiling down the hallway). A whip and an inexpensive portable is not going to be easy! __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Come visit us on 6855, 6975, 6925, 6930, 6950, et al. Radio is a much better place once you get out of the amateur bands. On 10/07/2013 01:57 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Na I am done with ham and it's close minded attitude I have sold most if my gear anyway. Even if I did stay in good gear is beyond my monetary means. I am going to get a better SWL/cb radio gear. I sold most of my CB 11 m when I got into ham took almost all the money I had to buy the basic ham gear Now I'm selling it back to get back into 11 m and shortwave again I'm done with ham close minded snobs I'm done with them. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] SWLing and portables
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:43 PM, john wrote: If you don't notice a significant difference in background noise levels and signal strengths of stations when you attache a long wire to the receiver, there's something wrong with the radio, or the way the antenna is being attached. OK, thanks — I’ll pull the wire back out and give it another try. Is it a wire that attaches directly to the built in whip? No. Most long wires that come with receivers aren't very long. I haven’t actually measured this one, but it’s probably around forty feet. What happens if you moisten your finger tips and touch the whip? does the background noise jump up some? It doesn’t appear to make any difference. Do you hear WWV at 5/10/15 Mhz at any time? (I assume you mean Khz, not Mhz.) I’m not getting them right now, no. On 15, I’m picking up a faint sporadic “blooping” type noise, nothing more. Let me try attaching the wire again and see whether that makes any difference. Government furloughs definitely leave you with a lot of time on your hands… even with all the TV that I have to watch and the schoolwork that I have to do, I’m still a man of leisure right now, albeit an involuntary one. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Thanks BOB Ernie On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Come visit us on 6855, 6975, 6925, 6930, 6950, et al. Radio is a much better place once you get out of the amateur bands. On 10/07/2013 01:57 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Na I am done with ham and it's close minded attitude I have sold most if my gear anyway. Even if I did stay in good gear is beyond my monetary means. I am going to get a better SWL/cb radio gear. I sold most of my CB 11 m when I got into ham took almost all the money I had to buy the basic ham gear Now I'm selling it back to get back into 11 m and shortwave again I'm done with ham close minded snobs I'm done with them. Ernie Sent from my iPhone __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Remember that when you think you have it all figured out... you wake up to start all over again! Trust yourself and MOST times you will not be disappointed __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes. No problem with that. 73, Zack On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Parrish S. Knight pianodw...@gmail.comwrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Most ham transceivers made since the 80's have general coverage receivers from the kHz region through 30 MHz. Some of the newer ones go up into the VHF region as well. Most have receive-only capabilities outside the ham bands, which CAN be defeated by removing diodes or adding jumpers somewhere. If you're not planning on transmitting, don't do those mods. My TS-850 is not the newest radio but is known for its outstanding audio quality. It still surpasses most other, even newer, equipment in this regard. It has filters in it to attenuate the AM broadcast band; these were installed to get around the problem of overload if you live near an AM station. There is a mod to bypass/remove that attenuation. It makes an excellent AM broadcast band DXing radio if you do that mod. I haven't had any overload problems and I live 5 miles from an AM station. 73, Zack On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden tedvanbeur...@hotmail.comwrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. Iyi geceler, Ted in Turkey From: ccsele...@earthlink.net To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:22:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list In the United States, yes. Carole - Original Message - From: Parrish S. Knight pianodw...@gmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi Parrish: The antenna is just as important as the radio. For receive applications the T2FD is hard to beat (and also for many transmit applications). http://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.shtml#T2FD I claim that using a chirp receiver is the best way to evaluate a receive antenna. A key radio specification is the IF bandwidth, the narrower the better for detecting a signal. Of course the IF needs to be as wide as the signal to hear the modulation. For example the HP 4395A spectrum analyzer has a true 1Hz RBW, it's my most sensitive instrument. http://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.shtml#SA The NRD545 has a 10 Hz IF BW, which is the narrowest receiver I have. http://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.shtml Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I’m mostly just mulling things over. I’m new to shortwave and don’t take it very seriously, but I’m finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I’d like to figure out whether it’s because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I’m overlooking something else, or simply because I’m doing something wrong. I’d say it’s most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello. Interesting how a single Android-application can start a big discussion on this list. This list was quiet and now I got 50 emails in 2 days. I am just watching this list. I do not listen to radio, but I am interested in these number stations. I am always excited when reading S20 or other logs. I have small transistor radio with casette. I ocassionaly listen to China and Turkey international, some oriental, and noise of living area. It is a bit strange, that I cannot tune any station from our country outside FM. And I made high voltage supply that accidentaly was transmitting around 500kHz. Funny device. Lights a CFL blub from your hand and does not shock you. So this was on my mind about radio now. I just cannot leave that 50 msgs alone :) Sorry for bad engilsh, I will try harder. On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 07:16:21PM +0100, Dennis Smith wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You may tar the world with one brush, but if you look around there are more colours and brushes to choose from. I am a ham, I am not a snob and I rather think judging the whole by examining the remainder isn't the way to gauge the world. I also have spent significant time on 11M and I don't judge people collectively there, I have met some rather obnoxious people on all bands, and by the same token I have met many rather nice people on all bands. I have found the some of the worst people on 11M more often or not, and have seen the demise of 11M in some areas purely due to the minority's stuck up attitude. I don't know where you're from but I only wish you'd seen my local club, whose interests are vast, who's main focus is to support the education in the hobby and it's expansive knowledge is open to all. We have all ages ranging from very young to rather elderly and the old teach the young and conversely the old have learnt equally as much from the young. Some members enjoy contests, some enjoy specific bands, other only listen like us, and some like data modes, and I like to dabble in everything, including satellite work. So, I ask you, do you think I am a snob? On 7 October 2013 18:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. - -- Sent with Mutt MUA, composed in Nano. GPG - Cryptography for Everyone -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.gpg4win.org/doc/en/gpg4win-compendium.html Comment: Plugin for Firefox and Chrome is called WebPG. iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSUwbOAAoJEMdO67lGlzZ9QoAIAMbu0CZ6RmdgexRQmEi/k7VP 15ThNvR0wYHRBWnM0YuyQKqm4tZzgc5v0FyZXVza2/LaVIxrLP/7au9scrphwHEw rCrYLKWISqu/mzoEGl5LS44hWKpGTTe3vBaTtbNCXQcswtbrA/PclupgbCcYTO58 O1cmg4aoYHTF0HGlE17l+8t+WjtWf4cWCAsl7GhFVU57r2LIsZ/r92cYC+YQrlje 5wocXCO83K2LSo3Ikr5f8297V8xEFhX3tKlOb8PWCffa5V/NYDiMzgJMwPHX59Ac KADenHIltYk9fmKczgryAr78NK2hHrPPIHJVjqKq86z1TKo7WljFGOJXYBaESoI= =51oi -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] SWLing and portables
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 02:50 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:43 PM, john wrote: If you don't notice a significant difference in background noise levels and signal strengths of stations when you attache a long wire to the receiver, there's something wrong with the radio, or the way the antenna is being attached. OK, thanks Ill pull the wire back out and give it another try. Is it a wire that attaches directly to the built in whip? No. Does it plug into a jack then I take it? Most long wires that come with receivers aren't very long. I havent actually measured this one, but its probably around forty feet. That should be plenty long enough What happens if you moisten your finger tips and touch the whip? does the background noise jump up some? It doesnt appear to make any difference. What happens if you connect and disconnect the long wire antenna while you have a shortwave signal tuned in? Does the level go up and down? Do you hear WWV at 5/10/15 Mhz at any time? (I assume you mean Khz, not Mhz.) Im not getting them right now, no. On 15, Im picking up a faint sporadic blooping type noise, nothing more. Let me try attaching the wire again and see whether that makes any difference. Nope... 5 , 10 or 15 Mhz should bring you the tick tock of WWV (where are you located by the way...US?) John Government furloughs definitely leave you with a lot of time on your hands even with all the TV that I have to watch and the schoolwork that I have to do, Im still a man of leisure right now, albeit an involuntary one. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Sure! www.eham.net has a lot of them! ( it's a ham site ) :-) John At 03:38 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Thank you for the information. This is a lot more involved than I would have thought. Do you know of any good web sites or other resources that give reviews for radios and antennas (and any other important items that would go along with them)? I don't think I'll be able to afford any major purchases until the government decides to let me go back to work *growl* but I can at least take some time to read up on the subject. On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi Parrish: The antenna is just as important as the radio. For receive applications the T2FD is hard to beat (and also for many transmit applications). http://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.shtml#T2FD I claim that using a chirp receiver is the best way to evaluate a receive antenna. A key radio specification is the IF bandwidth, the narrower the better for detecting a signal. Of course the IF needs to be as wide as the signal to hear the modulation. For example the HP 4395A spectrum analyzer has a true 1Hz RBW, it's my most sensitive instrument. http://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.shtml#SA The NRD545 has a 10 Hz IF BW, which is the narrowest receiver I have. http://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.shtmlHave Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I'm mostly just mulling things over. I'm new to shortwave and don't take it very seriously, but I'm finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I'd like to figure out whether it's because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I'm overlooking something else, or simply because I'm doing something wrong. I'd say it's most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] SWLing and portables
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I was starting to experiment with your suggestions below, but I noticed that the batteries are almost dead, so I stopped. Let me replace them and get back to you again in a little bit. Yes, the long antenna goes into a separate jack on the side… my radio is a Grundig G5 if you care to look up the specs. On Oct 6, 2013, at 3:57 PM, john wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 02:50 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:43 PM, john wrote: If you don't notice a significant difference in background noise levels and signal strengths of stations when you attache a long wire to the receiver, there's something wrong with the radio, or the way the antenna is being attached. OK, thanks — I’ll pull the wire back out and give it another try. Is it a wire that attaches directly to the built in whip? No. Does it plug into a jack then I take it? Most long wires that come with receivers aren't very long. I haven’t actually measured this one, but it’s probably around forty feet. That should be plenty long enough What happens if you moisten your finger tips and touch the whip? does the background noise jump up some? It doesn’t appear to make any difference. What happens if you connect and disconnect the long wire antenna while you have a shortwave signal tuned in? Does the level go up and down? Do you hear WWV at 5/10/15 Mhz at any time? (I assume you mean Khz, not Mhz.) I’m not getting them right now, no. On 15, I’m picking up a faint sporadic “blooping” type noise, nothing more. Let me try attaching the wire again and see whether that makes any difference. Nope... 5 , 10 or 15 Mhz should bring you the tick tock of WWV (where are you located by the way...US?) John Government furloughs definitely leave you with a lot of time on your hands… even with all the TV that I have to watch and the schoolwork that I have to do, I’m still a man of leisure right now, albeit an involuntary one. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nobody mentioned it but the WebSDR net works well, especially the Netherlands radio...and it's all free, google it. On 2013-10-07 3:58 PM, john joh...@nc.rr.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Sure! www.eham.net has a lot of them! ( it's a ham site ) :-) John At 03:38 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Thank you for the information. This is a lot more involved than I would have thought. Do you know of any good web sites or other resources that give reviews for radios and antennas (and any other important items that would go along with them)? I don't think I'll be able to afford any major purchases until the government decides to let me go back to work *growl* but I can at least take some time to read up on the subject. On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Hi Parrish: The antenna is just as important as the radio. For receive applications the T2FD is hard to beat (and also for many transmit applications). http://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.**shtml#T2FDhttp://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.shtml#T2FD I claim that using a chirp receiver is the best way to evaluate a receive antenna. A key radio specification is the IF bandwidth, the narrower the better for detecting a signal. Of course the IF needs to be as wide as the signal to hear the modulation. For example the HP 4395A spectrum analyzer has a true 1Hz RBW, it's my most sensitive instrument. http://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.**shtml#SAhttp://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.shtml#SA The NRD545 has a 10 Hz IF BW, which is the narrowest receiver I have. http://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.**shtmlhttp://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.shtml Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE http://www.PRC68.com http://www.**end2partygovernment.com/** 2012Issues.html http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/** mailman/listinfo/spooks http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I'm mostly just mulling things over. I'm new to shortwave and don't take it very seriously, but I'm finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I'd like to figure out whether it's because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I'm overlooking something else, or simply because I'm doing something wrong. I'd say it's most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/** mailman/listinfo/spooks http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ **__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __** __**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto: Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mail... __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Thanks! On Oct 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Martin G Choquette wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nobody mentioned it but the WebSDR net works well, especially the Netherlands radio...and it's all free, google it. On 2013-10-07 3:58 PM, john joh...@nc.rr.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Sure! www.eham.net has a lot of them! ( it's a ham site ) :-) John At 03:38 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Thank you for the information. This is a lot more involved than I would have thought. Do you know of any good web sites or other resources that give reviews for radios and antennas (and any other important items that would go along with them)? I don't think I'll be able to afford any major purchases until the government decides to let me go back to work *growl* but I can at least take some time to read up on the subject. On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list Hi Parrish: The antenna is just as important as the radio. For receive applications the T2FD is hard to beat (and also for many transmit applications). http://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.**shtml#T2FDhttp://www.prc68.com/I/RCS-5A.shtml#T2FD I claim that using a chirp receiver is the best way to evaluate a receive antenna. A key radio specification is the IF bandwidth, the narrower the better for detecting a signal. Of course the IF needs to be as wide as the signal to hear the modulation. For example the HP 4395A spectrum analyzer has a true 1Hz RBW, it's my most sensitive instrument. http://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.**shtml#SAhttp://www.prc68.com/I/4395A.shtml#SA The NRD545 has a 10 Hz IF BW, which is the narrowest receiver I have. http://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.**shtmlhttp://www.prc68.com/I/NRD545.shtml Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE http://www.PRC68.com http://www.**end2partygovernment.com/** 2012Issues.html http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/** mailman/listinfo/spooks http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksto unsubscribe from this list On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. I'm mostly just mulling things over. I'm new to shortwave and don't take it very seriously, but I'm finding myself kind of annoyed at my astoundingly bad fortune in picking up number stations with my Grundig G5 with a whip antenna. I'd like to figure out whether it's because I need a better antenna, or a better radio, or because I'm overlooking something else, or simply because I'm doing something wrong. I'd say it's most likely the last one, but even so, I want to look at the other possibilities as well. __**__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/** mailman/listinfo/spooks http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ **__**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __** __**__ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/spookshttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooksHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto: Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html III __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mail... __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Spooks] Lincolnshire poacher
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I like it when a discussion does move a little from topic occasionally, keeps the conversation from going stale! I also made an inverter once, I used it to initially power a 15W fridge lamp from a 9V battery, I tweaked it and made it into a very small electric shocker to zap friends at school, I then tweaked it a bit more an up rated it until I accidently burnt through my thumb nail. It hurt like hell and smelled of burnt flesh. I managed to use it to light a 6 foot neon lamp without even physically touching it so long as the other end was grounded. I'd love to get back into construction again. As for replying to the wrong messages, easily done, my mobile phone is too small and I can't quite tell who I am replying to due to the small screen, only that I am on the right thread. Dennis Smith M1DLG On 7 October 2013 20:09, Tomas Brod tomasb...@azet.sk wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello. Interesting how a single Android-application can start a big discussion on this list. This list was quiet and now I got 50 emails in 2 days. I am just watching this list. I do not listen to radio, but I am interested in these number stations. I am always excited when reading S20 or other logs. I have small transistor radio with casette. I ocassionaly listen to China and Turkey international, some oriental, and noise of living area. It is a bit strange, that I cannot tune any station from our country outside FM. And I made high voltage supply that accidentaly was transmitting around 500kHz. Funny device. Lights a CFL blub from your hand and does not shock you. So this was on my mind about radio now. I just cannot leave that 50 msgs alone :) Sorry for bad engilsh, I will try harder. On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 07:16:21PM +0100, Dennis Smith wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list You may tar the world with one brush, but if you look around there are more colours and brushes to choose from. I am a ham, I am not a snob and I rather think judging the whole by examining the remainder isn't the way to gauge the world. I also have spent significant time on 11M and I don't judge people collectively there, I have met some rather obnoxious people on all bands, and by the same token I have met many rather nice people on all bands. I have found the some of the worst people on 11M more often or not, and have seen the demise of 11M in some areas purely due to the minority's stuck up attitude. I don't know where you're from but I only wish you'd seen my local club, whose interests are vast, who's main focus is to support the education in the hobby and it's expansive knowledge is open to all. We have all ages ranging from very young to rather elderly and the old teach the young and conversely the old have learnt equally as much from the young. Some members enjoy contests, some enjoy specific bands, other only listen like us, and some like data modes, and I like to dabble in everything, including satellite work. So, I ask you, do you think I am a snob? On 7 October 2013 18:42, Bob DeMarco b...@citynet.net wrote: Ernie, Don't let a bunch of silver hair's who only tolerate operating in a echo chamber run you out of radio. I too let my license go for the same reasons as you but instead of leaving I just moved on to places where ham's aren't. Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. On 10/07/2013 01:19 PM, Ernie Rice wrote: Not here sir! I have ask for held with upgrading and no one would OR the give classes that start at $100 plus book(which they sell) My license expires in DEC and I will sell all my gear. I was told when I first wanted to be a ham that hams were snobs. Now I have found out that it is true. I no longer wish to be a ham. I still 11 m and find it for more enjoyable than anything ham. - -- Sent with Mutt MUA, composed in Nano. GPG - Cryptography for Everyone -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.gpg4win.org/doc/en/gpg4win-compendium.html Comment: Plugin for Firefox and Chrome is called WebPG. iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSUwbOAAoJEMdO67lGlzZ9QoAIAMbu0CZ6RmdgexRQmEi/k7VP 15ThNvR0wYHRBWnM0YuyQKqm4tZzgc5v0FyZXVza2/LaVIxrLP/7au9scrphwHEw rCrYLKWISqu/mzoEGl5LS44hWKpGTTe3vBaTtbNCXQcswtbrA/PclupgbCcYTO58 O1cmg4aoYHTF0HGlE17l+8t+WjtWf4cWCAsl7GhFVU57r2LIsZ/r92cYC+YQrlje 5wocXCO83K2LSo3Ikr5f8297V8xEFhX3tKlOb8PWCffa5V/NYDiMzgJMwPHX59Ac KADenHIltYk9fmKczgryAr78NK2hHrPPIHJVjqKq86z1TKo7WljFGOJXYBaESoI= =51oi -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 10/07/2013 13:18, Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? Yes. There's absolutely no prohibition on owning ham gear without a license as long as you're not transmitting with it. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 10/07/2013 13:26, Ted Van Beurden wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Wouldn't be any point. A shortwave receiver covers more freqs (unless things have changed) and should receive just as well as a ham receiver. Unless you just want to listen to hams. Just my view. Unless you own an older ham transceiver, most ham rigs these days have general coverage receivers. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] leagality
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Plenty of available spectrum out there with much more interesting people and conversations with no silly clubs or associations. ..and all of it in the category of illegal, unlicensed operation. Sure lets all just operate where we please, as we please. This thought process gets tiring.can we get back to the subject of spooks?? Rick. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher]
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Important to note that in the USA it is not illegal to own ham gear without a license, that might not apply to other nations. This mailing list is, after all, an international forum. T! -- From: Tom Sevart tmsev...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:59 AM To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] HAM Stuff [was: Re: Lincolnshire poacher] Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 10/07/2013 13:18, Parrish S. Knight wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Is it lawful to own HAM radio gear without a license so long as you don’t use it to transmit, only to receive? Yes. There's absolutely no prohibition on owning ham gear without a license as long as you're not transmitting with it. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
