Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
just reporting back, after installing the Logitech Media Server *-Version: 8.2.0 -* and activating the "*-Reliable-*" plugin, I have not had any long podcasts stop at random as they used to. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.. cheers CD doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
philippe_44 wrote: > I have a fix for that > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112518-EXPERIMENTAL-quot-reliable-quot-plugin-for-HTTP(S)-streaming Hey Phillipe Thank you very much for your commitment and help. I will try it out and answer there. DS1010+, DS14play Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 @ Fri Jun 1 16:21:00 CEST 2018 slimdevicesplatz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3060 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slimdevicesplatz wrote: > The podcasts of the Swiss radio stop perhaps for years already after > about 10' 30'' and I always hoped for an update that solved the problem. > > My Squeezebox runs Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - > 0011.1527861596. > > Is there any chance that this workaround is occasionally built into a > plugin? Or where can I find instructions on how to proceed, would I like > to try to extend the podcast plugin with this script? I have a fix for that https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112518-EXPERIMENTAL-quot-reliable-quot-plugin-for-HTTP(S)-streaming LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
The podcasts of the Swiss radio stop perhaps for years already after about 10' 30'' and I always hoped for an update that solved the problem. My Squeezebox runs Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596. Is there any chance that this workaround is occasionally built into a plugin? Or where can I find instructions on how to proceed? Would I like to try to extend the podcast plugin with this script? 3 SB, 1 SBT, 1 Boom, 2 Radio @ DS1010+ 1 SB, 1 Boom, 2 Radio @ DS14play LMS: 7.7.3 - 1375965195 @ Mon Aug 19 11:42:55 PDT 2013 slimdevicesplatz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3060 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > Attached the script and conf file. Good work ! I'll keep it by me in case I should become similarly afflicted. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Attached the script and conf file. All based on bashpodder :-). Not the best written scipts, but it seems to work. Requires wget, curl besides the normal bash commands available. You need to restore the original filename. - 28442 - 28443 Functional changes to bashpodder: - updated extraction of episode URL to fit my podcast - updated conf file to allow URL and Title specification. Title to be used as target directory and playlist name - added function to keep only the last x files. - added function to initiate playlist rescan on LMS - adapted playlist creation to support a second basepath due to LMS running in docker and script running on server - added function to copy most recent episode to "latest.mp3" file in the podcast target directory +---+ |Filename: bp.conf.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28443| +---+ -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 @ Wed Oct 16 14:20:53 CEST 2019 Player: 1x SB Touch, 5x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > I too would love to be able to play complete podcasts via LMS on a Pi. I don't think there is a quick fix. As I see it, this situation has arisen for two reasons: 1. Podcasts were originally handled the same in mysqueezebox.com and LMS which meant no storage. 2. It seems podcast servers are now been tuned to download rather than stream. Thismay be because of increasenbumber of users, increased size of podcast because longer & higher bitrate. This mean the only proper solution would be a plugin which it is a LMS only solution. * handles podcast RSS/XML feeds. * downloads the podcast at the same time as it being played. Once played the download is played or stopped, the file is deleted. * handle bookmarks and chapters (both MP4 and MP3). As user could initiate multiple podcast playback simultaneously and some podcasts are 100's Mbytes in size - not sure what might happen on Picore LMS systems with no disk. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > Right so unfortunately it isn't going to solve podcast issues on the > Pi. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk bummer. Thanks for the replies and clarification, though. slimhase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > This is refers to a socketwrapper issue (which is Windows only, > Linux/OSX do not need socketwrapper) - when transcoding streams. Not > used with MP3 podcasts as no transcoding.Right so unfortunately it isn't > going to solve podcast issues on the Pi. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > I could be wrong but is that fix just for windows? I too would love to > be able to play complete podcasts via LMS on a Pi This is refers to a socketwrapper issue - when transcoding streams. Not used with MP3 podcasts as no transcoding. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slimhase wrote: > bpa - did you see this discussion? > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110455-Announce-Spotty-2-8-x-Spotify-Connect-for-your-Squeezebox=954040=1#post954040 > > Is there a chance you could have a look and see, if this might be > related? > (With a potential fix from sle118?) > > Apolopies, in case its not related. > > I am also recently suffering random podcast stopping on a new podcast I > found > (https://www.srf.ch/feed/podcast/sd/5ba1cc91-64f2-4583-a72c-7d8194d7b163.xml), > so I was hoping, that that discussion could be lead to new > insights..I could be wrong but is that fix just for windows? I too would > love to be able to play complete podcasts via LMS on a Pi. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > Just to fill in some of the blanks. > Podcast are always served using https . http gets redirected to https. > > The BBC podcast URL gets redirected to acast.com which handles the ad > insertions and podcast serving. bpa - did you see this discussion? https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110455-Announce-Spotty-2-8-x-Spotify-Connect-for-your-Squeezebox=954040=1#post954040 Is there a chance you could have a look and see, if this might be related? (With a potential fix from sle118?) Apolopies, in case its not related. I am also recently suffering random podcast stopping on a new podcast I found (https://www.srf.ch/feed/podcast/sd/5ba1cc91-64f2-4583-a72c-7d8194d7b163.xml), so I was hoping, that that discussion could be lead to new insights.. slimhase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Just to fill in some of the blanks. Podcast are always served using https . http gets redirected to https. The BBC podcast URL gets redirected to acast.com which handles the ad insertions and podcast serving. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Paul Webster wrote: > You might not have looked at the web view of the forum post. It says: > Plex server does not have the same issueYup Tapatalk doesn't show post > titles. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > It is hard to tell. The OP only made three posts in the thread and > didn't mention Plex as far as I can see. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk You might not have looked at the web view of the forum post. It says: Plex server does not have the same issue Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > It is hard to tell. The OP only made three posts in the thread and > didn't mention Plex as far as I can see. Just to show how complicated things have got. The kermode podcast can be played in at least 4 version http/https 64kb and 128kb - I got ads inserted so there may be two further possibilties Uk / non UK ?) . When ads are inserted - they seem to be "regional" - it implies use of a CDN network ( (sample size of 1 is not a good test) . Earlier this year, BBC podcasts seemed to be only available in 128kb and http/https and no ads - so I think things on BBC end have changed. edit: The Kermode podcast has played OK up to 40 mins with my SB Receivr native 128kbps / http and with ads. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Paul Webster wrote: > From the change of subject in the thread post, i suspect that this was a > report that it works with Plex with no LMS involvement.It is hard to tell. > The OP only made three posts in the thread and didn't mention Plex as far as I can see. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > Did you change anything? Since the original "problem" is with the podcast server timeout - it is possible that the podcast server setup could have changed. If the reference is to Plex - I don't know how it works but many player download the whole podcast while playing them so it may not be a valid comparison. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > Did you change anything? > >From the change of subject in the thread post, i suspect that this was a report that it works with Plex with no LMS involvement. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
doobre wrote: > UPDATE - the exact same podcast (Kermode & Mayo 25/10/19) plays through > without any issue..Did you change anything? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
UPDATE - the exact same podcast (Kermode & Mayo 25/10/19) plays through without any issue.. doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Might the ancient -BashPodder-, or something similar, assist your podcatching ? I believe it might generate a playlist. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
I dont know all the internals. I was thinking of running a cronjob which downloads the latest episode, makes sure only the last # episodes are kept and then forces a db rescan. I was also thinking of using the sane filename with overwriting (will lead to wrong information being displayed, but). So this would be outside LMS as my Perl and LMS skills are not good enough to do anything else. -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > If i cone across a solution, I will share it. I could run a script > daily, downloading the latest episode (same file/ overwrite), > potentially initiate a db rescan and then simple playback... > Will think about it :-). I don't there is an easy solution. Within LMS there is no way to tell the difference between an remote MP3 stream and a podcast (extension, mime & URL designations - same for both) - so any special processing would have to happen at the Podcast plugin level and would have to create a new type to label podcast URL as a podcast and not just a remote MP3 stream (e.g. change saved URL from http:// to podcast://). MPEG-4 podcast can be distinguished but handling all podcast the same may be easier as there are very few http/MPEG-4 streams (i.e. no duration) as MPEG-4 is normally streamed with HLS or DASH. Once identified, then the simplest way to stream and provide intermediate caching would be to tell LMS to use a "transcoder" - which does nothing to data but buffers data and also facilitates "jump to time". Unfortunately to get metadata from the stream and to enable seeking a time point through a "transcoder" - means some more work in terms of a new Protocol handler - much of which will probably be passed to current LMS processing but still needs intercepting etc. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Mplayer: my fault. I misread one of the posts above. Aac: the site provides two streaming formats: aac and mp3. I simply tried both in case it might change the behavior - it didnt I agree with the remark on streaming vs download costs. If i cone across a solution, I will share it. I could run a script daily, downloading the latest episode (same file/ overwrite), potentially initiate a db rescan and then simple playback... Will think about it :-). Thanks again! -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > Understood. I will also move back to the mp3 feed as aac at least in my > case seems to block fast forwarding (even worse as I cannot workaround > the situation). Not sure if you are talking about an AAC stream (ADTS format) or AAC podcast (MPEG4). MPEG4 AAC podcast have particular format difficulties and LMS just does enough to stream them. > @bpa: Is there any setting on mplayer side or similar you know of, that > I can change the caching so bigger chunks might be downloaded? I will > also contact the stream provider - potentially there is a way... Not sure why you bring mplayer into this - it is not part of LMS. I mentioned it just to confirm the underlying issue with a non LMS system. I also mentioned when I increase the cache (i.e use the mplayer -cache command line option) podcast plays OK. I think (would need to be confirmed) LMS player cache slowly gets depleted and so it stops. Mplayer with no cache stops after 1 min. Mplayer with a small cache which is not depleted plays OK. Usually sites which configure the servers in this way do it consciously to reduce network load/costs (i.e avoid users streaming, keeping number of network connection to a minimum which would otherwise block access to the site). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Understood. I will also move back to the mp3 feed as aac at least in my case seems to block fast forwarding (even worse as I cannot workaround the situation). @bpa: Is there any setting on mplayer side or similar you know of, that I can change the caching so bigger chunks might be downloaded? I will also contact the stream provider - potentially there is a way... Thanks for the feedback -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > > > Technically we know the cause of the problem - basically the podcast > server doesn't like keeping an stream open that doesn't "move" - the > server has been setup and tuned to download the podcast as a file > (i.e. quick download) and not stream (i.e. download takes same time as > it takes to play the file - short bursts of data downloaded with very > long gaps in between with no activity). > > No easy answer on the LMS side. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Just for completeness: I changed the URL to http instead of https - I still have the same problem: podcast stops in between. This is not really helpful as anyone will understand :-). Any other ideas? Addon: I moved to the aac version of the podcast by changing the URL ending from mp3 to aac. After the good thing: didnt stop after 5 minutes, but it stopped after 7 minutes... This is better, but still annoying and not usable. -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
mrw wrote: > he continued to brief me through my Squeezebox Classic without a hitch, > for the full duration of the episode. Well, an update. I have now repeated the process, on the current and an earlier episode, and am now experiencing the same issue as -bigcookie-, that is, playback is now stopping after four or five minutes, as originally reported. So, my original success might have been a (temporary) fluke. I don't have any further insight at this point. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
mplayer only fetches data as it is required for playing - no prefetching whole files. The podcast reliably breaks down after 1 minute when I use mplayer on a Ubuntu system with no cache. The podcast plays OK using mplayer with a 32kb cache. Haven't tested very often but cache level only occasionally goes down to 0% - so I think amount of cached data is not the issue. Thinking some more, when using https URL - LMS is handling all the https stuff and so is behaving as if "proxied streaming" is enabled. So to be thorough and exclude the possibility of a https issues - test playing the http url bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > Not sure if this helps - I thought it might be useful to share. Well, on a whim I subscribed to the podcast and played out the episode that you referenced (the latest one). Although I did not understand the content of Herr Steingart's briefing, he continued to brief me through my Squeezebox Classic without a hitch, for the full duration of the episode. For avoidance of doubt, this is the URL of the podcast feed that I subscribed to: Code: https://dasmorningbriefing.podigee.io/feed/mp3 And this was the URL of the episode: Code: https://cdn.podigee.com/media/podcast_5030_steingarts_morning_briefing_der_podcast_episode_314_das_doppelte_dilemma_der_gruenen.mp3?v=1571288804=feed My LMS runs on an Arm5 box, Debian Buster, LMS version 7.9.2 from a quite recent nightly (August 2019), IO::Socket::SSL version 2.060. I can think of no obvious reason that explains why we experience a different result. Perhaps https related, or perhaps simply something else. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
You are playing a https URL . IS there any difference with a http URL ? I'm not sure how much of the 7.9.2 https stuff has been back ported into 7.7.7 bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
I changed the setting today and will be able to tell tomorrow and provide feedback... Thanks for the quick proposal and feedback. Explanation to my previous thought: I was thinking more of the behavior of the Podcast applications - instead of proactively downloading the content, one could start doing this on playback request. As the podcast history is normally not that long, you could delete the cached file when it disappeared from the RSS feed... Nevertheless I dont know if this is suitable or somebody is wlling to spend some time on it. -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
slartibartfast wrote: > If you remember I tried that with the Flaming Lips podcasts and playback > still stopped but after 7 minutes instead of 5 IIRC Not all podcast servers are the same (which is why there is a problem in the first place) and it does not require much effort to try. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > For the sake of trying something - enable "proxied streaming" for the > player (WebUI Settings/Player/Audio / Streaming method) . It usually > results in more data being cached at OS level of the LMS rather than > just caching the player which might be enough to appease the streaming > server.If you remember I tried that with the Flaming Lips podcasts and > playback still stopped but after 7 minutes instead of 5 IIRC. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bigcookie wrote: > Is there a chance to introduce caching in the 3rd party podcast > application? So it caches and the server doesnt need to keep the stream > open My guess is "only with disproportionate effort". One would not only need to download and cache, but also maintain the cache... Have you investigated the possibility of linux based podcast manager ? If an acceptable package exists, and it could be trained to download podcasts into a suitable folder on your music disk, then maybe that could effectively solve the problem for you. Just a thought. I have not investigated. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
I have a similar issue with a podcast stopping each 5:00-5:30minutes... https://dasmorningbriefing.podigee.io/feed/mp3 It is 100% reproducible. Is there a chance to introduce caching in the 3rd party podcast application? So it caches and the server doesnt need to keep the stream open? It is really annoying to fast forward every 5minutes from 0:00 to the latest stop if the cast is 30minutes long... If ther eis anything I can do or help with, please contact me... :-) (I am unfortunately no developer). regards, André -- LMS auf einem QNAP TS-653B in einem Debian Docker-Container Versionsnummer: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:36:54 UTC 2017 Player: 1x SB Touch, 2x SB Radio, 1x SB Duet. bigcookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
doobre wrote: > Just to add that the issue is with kermode & Mayo film review.. but that > is the only one I listen to from BBC, it happens on every ep. three or > four times. These are very long eps, usually over 2hours in length. > Listening through the podcast app plugin on SQBox radio - LMS v7.7.5 and > also now 7.7.7 - running win10 and before that win 7. > > sorry to reply sooo late, but I didn't receive any alerts about replies, > my finger trouble..I find a similar thing happens with Flaming Lips podcasts > (Sorceror's Orphan). In this case playback always stops after 5 minutes or so. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Just to add that the issue is with kermode & Mayo film review.. but that is the only one I listen to from BBC, it happens on every ep. three or four times. These are very long eps, usually over 2hours in length. Listening through the podcast app plugin on SQBox radio - LMS v7.7.5 and also now 7.7.7 - running win10 and before that win 7. sorry to reply sooo late, but I didn't receive any alerts about replies, my finger trouble.. doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > In the case of the BBC - there have been programmes which comment on the > news - after broadcast legal action is taken and so some items were > removed. > In other cases, a discussion talked about a topic (e.g. suicide, > terorist attack) and shortly afterwards a real similar high profile > event took place and so program was edited to remove what was now a > "sensitive" subject. I moved 'my response here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109017-Podcasts-stop-before-they-re-supposed-to-end=945307=1#post945307). QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
dolodobendan wrote: > Not sure why CNN etc. would want to replace the content a day later (but > I've seen that, too). But you're the expert, I trust your expertise.. In the case of the BBC - there have been programmes which comment on the news - after broadcast legal action is taken and so some items were removed. In other cases, a discussion talked about a topic (e.g. suicide, terorist attack) and shortly afterwards a real similar high profile event took place and so program was edited to remove what was now a "sensitive" subject. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > There are times depending on formats when remote streaming when duration > changes between what is told by the file header and is delivered by the > file audio contents (as file is streamed LMS doesn't get the most of the > contents until after playing has started) - with BBC there are many > podcast which have been revised after broadcast but the enclosure (xml) > has the original duration which is used by LMS when starting but the > file duration in the file contents is different (as it has been > replaced) - which one should LMS choose ? the choice usually depends on > the plugin writer. Not sure why CNN etc. would want to replace the content a day later (but I've seen that, too). But you're the expert, I trust your expertise. bpa wrote: > If you want to revisit your issue - add to your original thread and > leave this thread to solving the OP problem. Of course. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
doobre wrote: > Hi there all, as the title says, I regularly listen to BBC streamed > podcasts, trouble is it will just stop at random, maybe after 50mins or > only 7mins. Pressing play again the stream starts from the beginning > again, and I must jump through to roughly where it stopped. Any specific podcast ? And how are you accessing it ? I regularly listen to BBC Podcasts here in the UK, but cannot recall encountering this problem. I have had it on some other podcasts, occasionally, and put it down to an annoying remote server hanging up on me, part way through. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
doobre wrote: > Hi there all, as the title says, I regularly listen to BBC streamed > podcasts, trouble is it will just stop at random, maybe after 50mins or > only 7mins. Pressing play again the stream starts from the beginning > again, and I must jump through to roughly where it stopped. > any ideas anyone..!! > cheers CD What happens if you skip back a few seconds every five minutes? (Not a solution, I know.) QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
dolodobendan wrote: > I reproduce it (=streams stops one to two minutes too early) every time > I listen to CNN's or MSNBC's podcasts. Didn't we find that there was mismatch between the file header and the file duration so not a LMS problem ? This users problem is that podcast stop randomly at any point int the podcast. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
bpa wrote: > > Most time no single / good solution was found as problem is often not > reproducible but provide more details such as specific program being > played, how is it "found", LMS version, player type, uk/nonuk, etc. > > I reproduce it (=streams stops one to two minutes too early) every time I listen to CNN's or MSNBC's podcasts. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
This behaviour as been noticed many times before but there can be a variety of reason - podcast server not "liking" a connection kept open for ling duration - podcast were intended to be downloaded and some server don't like streaming them as a TCP connection is kept open for a long time with no traffic. - local ISP / CDN issue - hardware - duration mismatch between podcast feed and actual podcast Most time no single / good solution was found as problem is often not reproducible but provide more details such as specific program being played, how is it "found", LMS version, player type, uk/nonuk, etc. As a workaround if using LMS and only for BBC - use BBCiplayer to play BBC "listen-Again" programs. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109809-Troubleshooting-Podcast-Halting-Error https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109150-Podcast-download-instead-of-streaming https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109017-Podcasts-stop-before-they-re-supposed-to-end https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101277-Podcast-reading-stops-after-a-few-minutes bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Some extra info might help - for example: What version of LMS are you running (and on which OS)? Which player are you using (e.g. SB3, Touch) What do the LMS logs show? How are you accessing the podcast (menu route)? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] podcasts just stop at random
Hi there all, as the title says, I regularly listen to BBC streamed podcasts, trouble is it will just stop at random, maybe after 50mins or only 7mins. Pressing play again the stream starts from the beginning again, and I must jump through to roughly where it stopped. any ideas anyone..!! cheers CD doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
