Help Re: cancel and session-scope form

2002-09-29 Thread Angie Lin

Any ideas are appreciated.

Is there anyway to keep my session-scoped form from being populated by a 
click of an html:cancel button?  Is there any hook in the underlying 
Action that I can intercept prior to the ActionForm auto-population?

Thanks,
Angie


Angie Lin wrote:

 Hi there,

 How can I prevent a cancel button from populating the form bean? 
 Normally this isn't a problem, except that my form bean is in 
 session-scope (for an wizard-like implementation).

 I've considered reconfiguring it so that the form stays in 
 request-scope for each page in the wizard.  I would then instantiate 
 the form in session-scope myself and manage the copying of form fields 
 from each page manually depending on if the user submitted or 
 cancelled.  But I was hoping for a simpler solution.

 thanks,
 Angie


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Re: Help Re: cancel and session-scope form

2002-09-29 Thread Eddie Bush

Just quickly thinking it over ...

When your form submits, you're going to hit an action.  Your action is 
going to look and see what the user told you they wanted to do and act 
appropriately.  Now, that doesn't help you keep the form from being 
populated, but you can certainly keep from updating your persistent 
storage using this information - and know that, instead, you should 
request fresh data to repopulate the form with.  I like to rename my 
buttons to something like action or userAction - and give all of 
them the same name - so I can judge off the value of that parameter what 
the user is telling me they'd like to have happen.

That's my spontaneous, first-cut answer.  I can't think of a way to 
circumvent the population ...

Angie Lin wrote:

 Any ideas are appreciated.

 Is there anyway to keep my session-scoped form from being populated by 
 a click of an html:cancel button?  Is there any hook in the 
 underlying Action that I can intercept prior to the ActionForm 
 auto-population?

 Thanks,
 Angie 


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Re: Help Re: cancel and session-scope form

2002-09-29 Thread Eddie Bush

Actually ... I've never done this before, but ...

Why couldn't you invoke a javascript method on your Cancel button that 
invoked the forms reset method?  That might be the easiest solution ...

Eddie Bush wrote:

 Just quickly thinking it over ...

 When your form submits, you're going to hit an action.  Your action is 
 going to look and see what the user told you they wanted to do and act 
 appropriately.  Now, that doesn't help you keep the form from being 
 populated, but you can certainly keep from updating your persistent 
 storage using this information - and know that, instead, you should 
 request fresh data to repopulate the form with.  I like to rename my 
 buttons to something like action or userAction - and give all of 
 them the same name - so I can judge off the value of that parameter 
 what the user is telling me they'd like to have happen.

 That's my spontaneous, first-cut answer.  I can't think of a way to 
 circumvent the population ... 


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Only single attribute collections in ActionForm?

2002-09-29 Thread Frederic Laub

Hi,

I'm building a web application using Struts, all the aspects of the
framework are new to me.
I try to stick to the MVC design, the Model and Controller are quite clear
to me.
Thanks to the wonderful work of the Struts team and in particular Chuck
Cavaness and his Jakarta Struts Book Review.
I still don't know how to design my view components and FormActions, maybe
because of the missing chapter 8 (Custom Tag Libraries) of the review?
Question 1) Where can I find this missing chapter? (PS I pre-ordered the
book)
I want to stick to the struts tag-lib and their use with FormBeans but I
didn't find any convincing example of ActionForms for composed input pages.
I have a page with a table, in each cell is a picture with display
attributes (number, comment, link, ...) and input fields (check box for
selection, quantity, ... ), the last cells may be empty (conditional
display).
I designed a PageView which is composed of PictureViews (with all the
attributes for one cell).
Question 2) Where can I find an example for building this kind of JSP page
with multi-level nested Struts tags (iterate, logic, ...) which will be used
as input of an ActionForm?
Question 3) Do I need to decompose my input attributes in my ActionForm to
simple Arrays/ArrayLists (Is it a best practise?):
selectedPictures[]
pictureNumbers[]
orderedQuanties[]

Your help will be appreciated!!
Frederic

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Re: Help Re: cancel and session-scope form

2002-09-29 Thread Angie Lin

Thanks for the tip, but I'm trying to avoid javascript as much as 
possible.  It looks like I'll have to go ahead and manage my session 
form manually, and use a request-scoped form so that the auto-population 
doesn't blow away the properties.  

Thanks again,
Angie

Eddie Bush wrote:

 Actually ... I've never done this before, but ...

 Why couldn't you invoke a javascript method on your Cancel button that 
 invoked the forms reset method?  That might be the easiest solution ...

 Eddie Bush wrote:

 Just quickly thinking it over ...

 When your form submits, you're going to hit an action.  Your action 
 is going to look and see what the user told you they wanted to do and 
 act appropriately.  Now, that doesn't help you keep the form from 
 being populated, but you can certainly keep from updating your 
 persistent storage using this information - and know that, instead, 
 you should request fresh data to repopulate the form with.  I like to 
 rename my buttons to something like action or userAction - and 
 give all of them the same name - so I can judge off the value of that 
 parameter what the user is telling me they'd like to have happen.

 That's my spontaneous, first-cut answer.  I can't think of a way to 
 circumvent the population ... 




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Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread David Graham

No, I'm not a committer (from my understanding of the term).  I can't commit 
anything to cvs, I've just submitted a few docs and maybe a patch for code.  
I understand that everything we submit won't get applied but if it's not 
going to be used they could at least post a response in bugzilla telling us 
why.  Without that it's a bit discouraging.

Dave


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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:50:28 -0500

Well, David, you're a committer, right?  What would you suggest a person 
do?  I hear you on the patches - but, to be honest, patches are suggestions 
- there's no rule that states that they must be applied. The person 
committing the changes may, in fact, have a different perspective on the 
changes you made and not include your patch - but derive something from 
your patch that does get committed.

My view on filing a fix is:  Hey, here's my suggestion - oh, and I thought 
it through enough that I actually coded it and made it compile and TESTED 
it - it works for me.

A good example of the debacle a commiter could find himself involved in is 
this latest thing with sub-apps that Steve Ditlinger and I have been 
hitting on.  I'm sure you've followed it.  The question is:  Do we ahere 
strongly to this, or relax to include that too - that's a judgement call on 
the part of the committer, IMHO.  My original patch was simply to make 
things work the way I understood Craig wanted them to.  That didn't suit 
Steve, so he submitted another patch for what he wanted.  Then, Martin 
piped up and suggested neither of us fully comprehended the situation (and 
we didn't!  He had good points!) and last night I hacked out another patch 
- which I have yet to attack because I'm waiting for suggestions on whether 
I've covered all the bases or not.  I think I have, but I can't claim to 
know Struts as well as those who are commiters for this piece of the 
machinery.  In the end, one of the three patches will probably be used, and 
it's really irrelevant to me which one it is.  I just want sub-app 
selection to be bulletproof :-)

David Graham wrote:

Agreed, but it's frustrating when you submit a patch or documentation and 
its not applied or responded to.  It seems like they can get lost in the 
shuffle.

Dave


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Re: Proper exception handling of JDBC code? Need to call connection.rollback()?

2002-09-29 Thread David Graham

It's good practice to always put the rollback in the catch block and the 
close in the finally block.  Never depend on the Connection to do this for 
you.  It's not really because of defensive programming, it's to ensure the 
correctness of your data.

An easy way to not forget to do this is to create some kind of wrapper 
method that calls your implementation method.  The impl. method will throw 
SQLException and not have any catch blocks for database problems.  The 
wrapper method that called the impl. method catches SQLException and calls 
rollback.  It also calls conn.commit() if successful and conn.close in the 
finally block.  This reduces your JDBC code considerably.

Dave

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Subject: Proper exception handling of JDBC code?   Need to call 
connection.rollback()?
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:40:57 -0700 (PDT)

One of the many points I raised earlier was how to
properly close a database connection, and how that
might change depending on whether you were using
connection pooling and/or a DataSource.  The example
JDBC code cited was that in the Struts 1.0.2 Javadoc:

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/doc-1.0.2/api/org/apache/struts/util/package-summary.html#doc.JDBC

The part that looked a little funny to me and others
was the call to [myConnection].rollback() in the
catch{} block.  I think I finally figured out why this
was put in - defensive programming.

It seems to me that if *any* part of a transaction is
successful, then [connection].rollback() needs to be
called, else the next piece of application code that
got its hands on that connection object and completed
a transaction successfully would also complete the
previously-uncommitted transaction.

For example, let's say your updateDB() method has two
separate method calls made within it that each update
a table.  If only the first conn.executeUpdate()
method completes successfully, and the second
conn.executeUpdate() throws some kind of SQLException,
that transaction will *not* automatically be rolled
back.  The driver won't do it.  The database would do
it only when the connection is finally closed.

But what if that connection is part of a connection
pool, and before the application server (and thus the
pool) goes down for the night, that updateDB() method
is used again, this time with success.  Now, the
leftover transaction from the first failed call to
updateDB() has been committed along w/ any changes
from follow-on calls to updateDB().  All of this
happens, if your DataSource/Connection Pooling
Mechanism/Wrapped Connection Object isn't smart enough
to call [connection].rollback() for you.  The
GenericConnection object that ships with Struts is
smart enough - and that's why I probably hadn't been
burned in the past while using Struts, and not calling
conn.rollback() myself.

The GenericConnection object's first task in its
close() method is to call connection.rollback().  So,
as long as I call connection.close() before leaving my
updateDB() method, I'm good to go.

/*  Code snippet from Struts source */
...
// Clean up any outstanding transaction as best we can
try {
   conn.rollback();
} catch (SQLException e) {}
...

Hope all this is correct...don't want to mislead
people...


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RE: Disabling jsessionid parameter in Struts forms

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Andrew Hill wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:11:41 +0800
 From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Disabling jsessionid parameter in Struts forms

 You are correct about encodeURL() - this is when the sessionId is appended.
 The sessionId is part of the servlet API session tracking mechanism , and as
 you have noticed is appended to the URL when not using cookies. (When using
 cookies it is instead stored in a cookie).
 If you do not include the sessionId , you will not be able to make much use
 of session scope in your website (as each request will get a new session).
 If you dont need to use session scope to keep track of anything, this
 probably won't be a problem (I think - unless struts itself needs it for
 certain things?).
 As for actually disabling the appending of sessionId I am afraid I have no
 idea how you might achieve it with regards to the struts tags.


The jsessionid path parameter is indeed added by the call that Struts
automatically makes to response.encodeURL() when setting up URLs for you.
Without this automatic feature, you'd have to call encodeURL() yourself in
order to ensure that your application works when your client does not have
cookies enabled.

So, why does this get generated when my client *does* have cookies?  The
reason is that, on the first response for a particular session, the server
has no way to know if you have cookies enabled or not, so the session ID
is sent *both* ways (via URL rewriting and as a cookie).  If the session
ID comes back in as a cookie, the server will understand that it no longer
needs to rewrite from the second response on.

There is no configuration parameter to turn this off, and there won't be.
The important principle you should get used to is that the actual contents
of the request URL is pretty meaningless in a web application based on
Model 2 design patterns.  You're far better training yourself (and your
users) to ignore the URL completely rather than obsessing over the
detailed contents.

For stubborn users, I've occasionally resorted to running the app in a
frameset with a single frame, just so the location bar URL doesn't change
on every request ...

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Property errors.prefix not used by HTML:errors ?

2002-09-29 Thread Pel Oliver Kristiansen

Hi all !

Complete newbe trying to get the html:errors to print pretty.
I include the following into my ApplicationResources.properties

errors.header=Feil oppstod!font color=red
errors.prefix=*
errors.sufffix=br
errors.header=/font

(ignore the lame tags they are just for testing)

The errors.header and errors.header are displayed but the 
errors.prefix and errors.sufffix are not.

(HTML example output:)

Feil oppstod!font color=red
Feltet inneholder for mye informasjon
Feltet Navn er ikke utfyllt
/font

Any pointers ?

Pel O. Kristiansen


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RE: logic:iterate with nested html:img

2002-09-29 Thread Vinh Tran

Eddie:

Thanks for you help.  I promise this will be the last response on this
thread.  I just want to be certain that it is valid to use EL with Struts
tags.  Meaning, by using the bean:define tag I should be able to access
this object using EL.  Or do I have to use c:set or jsp:useBean in order
to use EL?

By the way, I have tried everything from logic:iterate to
c:forEachAnyway, thanks again and I will just have to continue
troubleshooting.

Vinh

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Subject: Re: logic:iterate with nested html:img


Oh - cool!  Glad you could upgrade!

All you should have to do is drop the JAR you built into your app's lib
directory, copy the TLDs over into wherever you keep those, add
references to the taglibs in your web.xml, declare the taglib in your
page, and use them just like you would the Struts tags - BUT - you have
EL support.

If you're running Tomcat 4, why not install the JSTL and use that for
iteration?  :-)

I don't know what kind of errors you're getting in your page.  I think
things look like they are setup right.  One thing to remember is that
the EL is going to expect you to be following JavaBean patterns, so ...
is map.getSrcImage() valid?  is map.getDesc() valid?  If that's really a
map, you might want to try accessing it like map['srcImage'] and
map['desc'].

That's my best guess not knowing what problems you're having.

Vinh Tran wrote:

Eddie:

I'm finally up and running on Tomcat 4.0 but now I'm pulling my hair out
trying to get EL to work.  Is it possible to use Struts-EL in conjunction
with Struts tags?

For example:
bean:define id=beanid name=MyBean type=com.custom.bean.MyBean
scope=session ignore=true/

...later in the page I attempt to iterate through a collection...
logic:iterate id=map name=beanid property=beanMap
   html:img src=/images/${map.srcimage} alt=${map.desc} border=0/
/logic:iterate

Am I trying to defy the laws of physics, or at least Struts?

Vinh


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Re: Struts and high performance sites revisited

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, David Zimmerman wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:42:34 +0100
 From: David Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Struts and high performance sites revisited

 Ok, so we got it nailed down these statements...

 - The Struts Controller doesn't add more overhead than a high
 performance site should be able to handle. In the regard flexibility
 contra performance, using the controller makes your application
 manageable with negligible overhead.


That's a pretty good summary.  For the vast majority of Struts based
applications, the overhead of the Struts controller servlet is down in the
noise level percentages -- and, of course, if you were to consider
replacing it, you'd have to add back in the overhead of your replacement
solution anyway.

 - There was also the everlasting discussion on EJB's be or not to be. I
 think that there are loads of variables that affects the choices of the
 design and that there still remains some issues with EJB's. However when
 only using stateless session beans with DAO's I think that the
 scalability-flexability-performance goes hand in hand and makes a
 preferrable design choice. Anyone disagrees? Would be nice to hear your
 opinions.


There is no one correct answer to this question.  Anyone trying to answer
it with an absolute always use EJBs or never use EJBs should not be
considered a trustworthy source of advice.

What you *should* always start with is an understanding of your
application's functional requirements -- both initially, and the
directions it is likely to go.  Just as a silly example, if you're
building a simple intranet app for a ten-person department, with a
database content measured in kilobytes instead of megabytes, you should
just pick the technology you are the most familiar with and be done with
it -- even if your solution isn't fastest possible, spending a couple of
hundred dollars more on your server hardware is ***much*** cheaper than
paying for the extra hours of development to learn a new technology.
However, if your development team knows the stateless session bean +
DAOs design pattern already, there's nothing wrong with using it.

 - But what was not discussed was the overhead of custom tags. This seems
 to be a question much avoided everywhere. When talking about
 flexability. Oh yes, use them. They makes your pages much easier to
 build and manage. They also makes for a great design of the application.
 BUT (capital letters), what about the performance overhead of the tags?
 When designing a web site where the absolute focus is to be able to
 handle as many transactions as possible to a low cost. Doesn't custom
 tags become very expensive to use in a case like this? There must have
 been extensive testing made on this. Does anyone have any facts or
 thoughts on this?

Here are two basic lines of thoughts to consider.

As with concern over the controller servlet's overhead, you can't just say
custom tags are expensive so do not use them, without considering the
cost of whatever you are going to replace them with.  This matters a lot
more than the controller servlet's potential overhead in many cases, but
my experience is that the database tier tends to dominate the overall
performance overhead of a web app, no matter what technology you use for
the presentation tier.

Second, the performance overhead of custom tags is very much dependent
upon the quality of the JSP page compiler you are using, so it is (as with
most things) impossible to create absolute guidelines that cover every
possible situation.

As an example, you should try running the same Struts based app on the
current releases of Tomcat 4.0 (with the original JSP page compiler) and
Tomcat 4.1 (with the completely rewritten Jasper 2 page compiler that has
many optimizations to improve the generated code for custom tags).
Performance improvements on the order of 600% to 800% have been observed
on pages with lots of custom tags (which is typical of Struts apps), with
*zero* changes to the application itself.  You will see a very wide range
of performance when you try out various other app servers as well.

The moral of the story -- it's not custom tags that are fast or slow, it
is the JSP page compiler's generated code for those tags that is fast or
slow.  Without defining what app server (and version) you are talking
about, trying to ask about the performance of custom tags is a meaningless
question.

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RE: Struts and high performance sites revisited

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Lister, Tom (ANTS) wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:21:45 +0100
 From: Lister, Tom (ANTS) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Struts and high performance sites revisited

 Hi
 I've recently been struggling with performance issues related to tags,
 especially where there are large number in some of our pages. The biggest
 improvment we got was by switching application servers. Specifically by
 upgrading to the latest Tomcat 4.1.11. The difference in response is
 incredible.
 So it would seem that the major issue is with the type of code generated by
 the servlet engine.
 We spent some time looking at the generated code, the major issue being that
 every tag reference is created as a new object. There must be better way to
 do this. Until this point I was wrongly assuming that the tags were run as
 just method calls on one instance.

The JSP Specification provides many standard opportunities that a JSP page
compiler can use to improve the quality of the generated code for a custom
tag invocation.  One of the simplest is to reuse tag instances (as the
Jasper 2 compiler in Tomcat 4.1 can do), but there are more aggressive
things you can do as well.  Consider something like this:

  c:forEach ... something that loops 100 times ...
foo:bar name=x value=y/
  /c:forEach

Not only is it legal to reuse the custom tag instance for the bar tag
(instead of creating 100 instances the way Tomcat 4.0 does), but the page
compiler need not even call the setName() and setValue() methods 100 times
inside the loop -- these can be moved outside the loop using standard
techniques that optimizing compilers have used for decades.

The JSP page compiler in Tomcat 4.1 and 5.0 (called Jasper 2) was
rewritten from the ground up, primarily in order to make optimizations
like this possible.  You are seeing the fruits of this effort in 4.1, but
we are by no means done with improving the optimizations that the page
compiler can perform.

 will JSTL improve on this ?


JSTL by itself doesn't change the code that is generated for a custom tag
-- that's up to the page compiler.  But the page compiler does have the
opportunity to recognize JSTL tags (since they are a standard now) and
generate specially optimized code (for example, turning a c:forEach into
a real Java for statement instead of a custom tag invocation), as long
as the semantic requirements are met.  So, once the page compilers have
been improved in this manner, using c:forEach will definitely run faster
than a Struts logic:iterate tag that iterates the same number of times
(unless someone were to optimize their page compiler for Struts tags,
which seems less likely than optimizing for JSTL :-).

 :-)
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RE: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Assenza, Chris wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:17:36 -0400
 From: Assenza, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: all this traffic

 Usually mailing list operators solve this problem
 by separating mailing lists to a newbie list and
 a list for more experienced users.

 struts-user-beginner
 struts-user

 Which was one thing he originally suggested... =p


While this idea is appealing in principle, it has dramatically failed to
achieve the objectives in every case I've seen it used.  Therefore, I'm
going to -1 any proposal to do this for Struts.

 /me
 Doesn't care so much, I simply don't have enough time to read all this
 stuff, I usually scroll by to see what catches my eye, otherwise I select
 all and delete. :)


Setting up your mail reader to automatically forward STRUTS-USER messages
to a separate folder, and then sorting by thread, is a trivially easy
approach to dealing with volume issues.  Your inbox is no longer clogged,
you can go read Struts mail when you have time, and can ignore entire
irrelevant threads with a single command to advance to the next thread.

 -Chris

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RE: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, adam kramer wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
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 There's seems to be alot of resistance to any sort of suggestion that
 might create better documentation and useability of Struts.


I can tell you for a fact that there's no resistance from Struts
*developers* on this.  What we resist, however, is the implication that
*we* should do all the work. :-)

Struts is an open source project.  The documentation is part of the source
code, in easily accessible formats (for Struts, it is XML files that are
post-processed to produce the HTML), and maintained in the same CVS
archives that the code is.

Users are welcome to submit enhancement requests (for either the code or
the documentation) via the bug tracking system:

  http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/

and you can easily attach proposed patches to the enhancement requests.
The general outline of how to create the patches starts at:

  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html

 Rather than telling people they have bad management skills, the obvious
 thing to do would be to actually listen and try to find solutions. There
 are lots of messages like Jonas's and there seems to be a core of people
 who are unwilling to listen or to change; it's like a chorus of people
 complaining about a bad interface and a group of developers just saying
 get used to it buddy, always has been always will!

 just an oh so humble suggestion.


My humble suggestion is to consider becoming part of the solution instead
of part of the complaining horde.  Patches welcome.

 -adam k.


Craig


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newbie to struts

2002-09-29 Thread Nellikkaltil, Liji

hi there,
I am using Orion 1.5.2 on windows 2000 platform, I tried to deploy the 
struts-documenation.war file on orion using console and I get an error 
com.evermind.server.ConfigFileNotFoundException: Unable to find/read assembly info 
for C:\orion\apachestruts\jakarta-struts-1.0.2\webapps\struts-documentation.war 
(META-INF/application.xml)

If the answer to this has already been posted please let me know here I can find it.

thanks,
Liji



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On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, adam kramer wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
 From: adam kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: all this traffic


 There's seems to be alot of resistance to any sort of suggestion that
 might create better documentation and useability of Struts.


I can tell you for a fact that there's no resistance from Struts
*developers* on this.  What we resist, however, is the implication that
*we* should do all the work. :-)

Struts is an open source project.  The documentation is part of the source
code, in easily accessible formats (for Struts, it is XML files that are
post-processed to produce the HTML), and maintained in the same CVS
archives that the code is.

Users are welcome to submit enhancement requests (for either the code or
the documentation) via the bug tracking system:

  http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/

and you can easily attach proposed patches to the enhancement requests.
The general outline of how to create the patches starts at:

  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html

 Rather than telling people they have bad management skills, the obvious
 thing to do would be to actually listen and try to find solutions. There
 are lots of messages like Jonas's and there seems to be a core of people
 who are unwilling to listen or to change; it's like a chorus of people
 complaining about a bad interface and a group of developers just saying
 get used to it buddy, always has been always will!

 just an oh so humble suggestion.


My humble suggestion is to consider becoming part of the solution instead
of part of the complaining horde.  Patches welcome.

 -adam k.


Craig


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Re: Globals

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Anthony Martin wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:58:11 -0700
 From: Anthony Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts User List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Globals

 Is it now recommended to use members of Global like in Global.ERROR_KEY
 instead of Action.ERROR_KEY *even* in classes that extend Action?  I know
 these members have not been marked as deprecated, but the note seems to
 indecate that they are preferred:

 Global manifest constants for the entire Struts Framework. Many of these
 constants were initially defined in Action, but were moved here so that they
 could be referenced without referencing the Action class itself. For
 backwards compatibility, constant references there point at this class, and
 the constant values themselves have not changed.

 So, it looks like either way is acceptable.  But will the old way be
 deprecated sometime in the future?


The old way is likely to be deprecated in the future, but not in 1.1.

I made a mistake originally in defining these constants in Action.java
instead of in their own class, but there's no going back now (by removing
them from Action).  And there is now a new flood of books that talks about
using Action based constants, so it seems impolite of us to deprecate them
in a 1.1 time frame ...


 Anthony


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Re: use Jakarta TagLibs in Struts

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:12:52 -0500
 From: Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: use Jakarta TagLibs in Struts

 I believe I saw a post in the commons-dev list that indicated the xsl
 taglib was stale and that a person should upgrade to the JSTL.


JSTL is absolutely, positively the way to go if you need XSLT
transformations in your JSP pages.  The only potential negative is that it
requires a Servlet 2.3 / JSP 1.2 container, but the benefits make a pretty
compelling argument to upgrade if you're not already on this platform.

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Re: Is it really worth the effort to have a single instance of theAction?

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Andrew Hill wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:51:06 +0800
 From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Is it really worth the effort to have a single instance of the
 Action?

 Given that for modern JVMs object creation and cleanup isnt the chore it
 used to be , I am wondering if it might not be more convienient to create a
 new Action instance for each request.


The WebWorks framework (by Rickard Oberg) actually does things in the
manner you suggest, and goes one step further -- he combines what we think
of as the form bean and the Action into a single class, and calls all the
property setters for your request fields directly on the Action instance
before calling it's execute() method.  Therefore, no separate form bean
class is needed.

If I had thought of this design pattern in the first place, I'd have been
pretty tempted to use it.  However, changing the semantics of a
fundamental piece of Struts this radically doesn't seem like a good idea
at this point, because it would reduce performance (albeit by a small
amount) on existing Struts apps that are already programmed with thread
safe Actions.

The other concern I have is that this would encourage you to code your
business logic in the Action directly, instead of delegating it to some
logic bean.  I view the most appropriate role of an Action to be as an
adapter between the servlet-API-based web environment and the business
logic of your application, which should *not* depend on any presentation
layer APIs itself.


Craig


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Re: Retrieving list of Roles defined in web.xml [Revised]

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Vinh Tran wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:54:31 -0400
 From: Vinh Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Retrieving list of Roles defined in web.xml [Revised]

 I can also manage if there is a simple way to identify the roles a user
 particpates in (using container managed security). There is a call for
 isUserInRole() but nothing for getUserRoles()?


There is no getUserRoles() method available in the servlet API, which
means that any answer you get is going to be application server dependent.
Indeed, it is incorrect to assume that the list of roles a user has is
static -- it's quite conceivable for your server to define a role as is
it between 8:00am and 5:00pm on a weekday and use that to limit the times
a particular application function is available.

You're going to need to research how your underlying app server stores and
accesses authentication information.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks.

Craig


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Action Error

2002-09-29 Thread Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF)

Action Error must be impletmented in sorted order. Right now it appears to
be Hashtable...When we try to display errors they dont show up in order we
inserted...

-Original Message-
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:35 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Globals




On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Anthony Martin wrote:

 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:58:11 -0700
 From: Anthony Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts User List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Globals

 Is it now recommended to use members of Global like in Global.ERROR_KEY
 instead of Action.ERROR_KEY *even* in classes that extend Action?  I know
 these members have not been marked as deprecated, but the note seems to
 indecate that they are preferred:

 Global manifest constants for the entire Struts Framework. Many of these
 constants were initially defined in Action, but were moved here so that
they
 could be referenced without referencing the Action class itself. For
 backwards compatibility, constant references there point at this class,
and
 the constant values themselves have not changed.

 So, it looks like either way is acceptable.  But will the old way be
 deprecated sometime in the future?


The old way is likely to be deprecated in the future, but not in 1.1.

I made a mistake originally in defining these constants in Action.java
instead of in their own class, but there's no going back now (by removing
them from Action).  And there is now a new flood of books that talks about
using Action based constants, so it seems impolite of us to deprecate them
in a 1.1 time frame ...


 Anthony


Craig


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Re: [FRIDAY] [OT] Best misunderstanding of an acronym?

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Kevin A. Smith wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:07:53 -0400
 From: Kevin A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FRIDAY] [OT] Best misunderstanding of an acronym?

 The one that always baffles me is TANSTAAFL.

 A quick Google search reveals There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.


It's also going to be well known to Robert Heinlein's The Moon Is A Harsh
Mistress, one of my favorite SF novels.

 --Kevin

Craig


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Re: Internationalization Broken on Struts 1.1b2?

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Ryan Cuprak wrote:

 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:54:26 -0400
 From: Ryan Cuprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Internationalization Broken on Struts 1.1b2?

 Okay, I figured it out, one has to add the following to their jsp page:
   html:html locale=true

 Why would I have to do this?


If you were flowing all requests through the controller servlet, you
wouldn't have to do this (assuming you have accepted the default
Controller setting for the locale attribute).  It sounds like you've
got users who are accessing the JSP page's URL directly, which therefore
bypasses the Struts controller.

 -Thanks,
Ryan Cuprak

Craig


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RE: logic:iterate with nested html:img

2002-09-29 Thread Vinh Tran

Eddie:

I figured out that EL is working fine and it does indeed work with all types
of tags.  Thanks again.

Vinh

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From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:51 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: logic:iterate with nested html:img


Eddie:

Thanks for you help.  I promise this will be the last response on this
thread.  I just want to be certain that it is valid to use EL with Struts
tags.  Meaning, by using the bean:define tag I should be able to access
this object using EL.  Or do I have to use c:set or jsp:useBean in order
to use EL?

By the way, I have tried everything from logic:iterate to
c:forEachAnyway, thanks again and I will just have to continue
troubleshooting.

Vinh

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From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:33 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: logic:iterate with nested html:img


Oh - cool!  Glad you could upgrade!

All you should have to do is drop the JAR you built into your app's lib
directory, copy the TLDs over into wherever you keep those, add
references to the taglibs in your web.xml, declare the taglib in your
page, and use them just like you would the Struts tags - BUT - you have
EL support.

If you're running Tomcat 4, why not install the JSTL and use that for
iteration?  :-)

I don't know what kind of errors you're getting in your page.  I think
things look like they are setup right.  One thing to remember is that
the EL is going to expect you to be following JavaBean patterns, so ...
is map.getSrcImage() valid?  is map.getDesc() valid?  If that's really a
map, you might want to try accessing it like map['srcImage'] and
map['desc'].

That's my best guess not knowing what problems you're having.

Vinh Tran wrote:

Eddie:

I'm finally up and running on Tomcat 4.0 but now I'm pulling my hair out
trying to get EL to work.  Is it possible to use Struts-EL in conjunction
with Struts tags?

For example:
bean:define id=beanid name=MyBean type=com.custom.bean.MyBean
scope=session ignore=true/

...later in the page I attempt to iterate through a collection...
logic:iterate id=map name=beanid property=beanMap
   html:img src=/images/${map.srcimage} alt=${map.desc} border=0/
/logic:iterate

Am I trying to defy the laws of physics, or at least Struts?

Vinh


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Strange Behavior With Map$Entry

2002-09-29 Thread Vinh Tran

All:

After alot of experimenting I was able to finally figure out how to retrieve
a value from a Map.Entry.  However, it only works for certain tags.  Below
is an example of this behavior.

logic:iterate id=mymap name=mybean property=map
html:img src=/images/${mymap.value.image} alt=${mymap.value.desc}
border=0/
c:out value=${mymap.value.desc}/
/logic:iterate

In the html:img tag the expressions do not work but in the c:out tag it
prints out the proper value.  Any ideas?



html:options

2002-09-29 Thread Doug Dates

I want to display a dropdown list. The list items are By First Name, By
Last Name, By Date. I think I can do it by the following way:

html:select size=1 property=choice
html:option value=fName By First Name /html:option
html:option value=fName By Last Name /html:option
html:option value=fName By Date /html:option
/html:select

Is there any disadvantages to use above approach compared with using
html:options...? If I use html:options ...  instead of using above
individual html:option...,as following:

html:select property=choice size=1
  html:options collection=%= myArrayList % property=value
labelProperty=label/
/html:select

where should I set myArrayList? in init method of my servlet class, or in my
action form bean, or somewhere else? I am not quite understand it. Could
some one please help me?

Thank you

Doug



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Re: Retrieving list of Roles defined in web.xml [Revised]

2002-09-29 Thread V. Cekvenich

One alternative thing I have done that I consider simple is use 
container managed autherhication, and then call a getPricnciplal.
Based on the user name, I make a bean I put in session that contains all 
  kinds of information about the user, session, security. Things like 
full name, organization, roles, etc. etc.
These I them pass to beans for row based security.

It is cross app server, since it your own bean on top of the getPrinicpal().

hth,
V.

Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Vinh Tran wrote:
 
 
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:54:31 -0400
From: Vinh Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Retrieving list of Roles defined in web.xml [Revised]

I can also manage if there is a simple way to identify the roles a user
particpates in (using container managed security). There is a call for
isUserInRole() but nothing for getUserRoles()?

 
 
 There is no getUserRoles() method available in the servlet API, which
 means that any answer you get is going to be application server dependent.
 Indeed, it is incorrect to assume that the list of roles a user has is
 static -- it's quite conceivable for your server to define a role as is
 it between 8:00am and 5:00pm on a weekday and use that to limit the times
 a particular application function is available.
 
 You're going to need to research how your underlying app server stores and
 accesses authentication information.
 
 
Any ideas?

Thanks.
 
 
 Craig




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[Contributing] Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Peter A. J. Pilgrim

Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, adam kramer wrote:
 
 
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: adam kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: all this traffic


There's seems to be alot of resistance to any sort of suggestion that
might create better documentation and useability of Struts.

 
 
 I can tell you for a fact that there's no resistance from Struts
 *developers* on this.  What we resist, however, is the implication that
 *we* should do all the work. :-)
 
 Struts is an open source project.  The documentation is part of the source
 code, in easily accessible formats (for Struts, it is XML files that are
 post-processed to produce the HTML), and maintained in the same CVS
 archives that the code is.
 
 Users are welcome to submit enhancement requests (for either the code or
 the documentation) via the bug tracking system:
 
   http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/
 
 and you can easily attach proposed patches to the enhancement requests.
 The general outline of how to create the patches starts at:
 
   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
 

What is the format of the patches that developers /contributer patches submit?
Is it a context difference?

diff -c  acme.java  acme.java.orig

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Re: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter A. J. Pilgrim wrote:

 
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
 

 What is the format of the patches that developers /contributer patches submit?
 Is it a context difference?

 diff -c  acme.java  acme.java.orig


The specific instructions on submitting patches are on the following page:

  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html

which is accessible from the page I quoted above.  You need to use the
*unified* diff format, via one of the following commands:

  cvs diff -u acme.java  patchfile.txt

  diff -u acme.java.orig acme.java  patchfile.txt

and then add the patchfile as an attachment to an enhancement request (or
bug report) in the bug tracking system.  The cvs diff version is
preferred, because it unambiguously identifies the version of the source
file that your patch is against -- if you use the regular diff command,
please be explicit about which version of the source you are patching.


 --
 Peter Pilgrim

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RE: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF)

This is for Craig. I believe you are at home today.  Can we do a better job
of listing companies that are in process of developing applications in
struts or already have applications in production. This helpes in convincing
managements to take a  
more closer look at sturt. 
Thanks 

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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:05 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic




On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter A. J. Pilgrim wrote:

 
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
 

 What is the format of the patches that developers /contributer patches
submit?
 Is it a context difference?

 diff -c  acme.java  acme.java.orig


The specific instructions on submitting patches are on the following page:

  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html

which is accessible from the page I quoted above.  You need to use the
*unified* diff format, via one of the following commands:

  cvs diff -u acme.java  patchfile.txt

  diff -u acme.java.orig acme.java  patchfile.txt

and then add the patchfile as an attachment to an enhancement request (or
bug report) in the bug tracking system.  The cvs diff version is
preferred, because it unambiguously identifies the version of the source
file that your patch is against -- if you use the regular diff command,
please be explicit about which version of the source you are patching.


 --
 Peter Pilgrim

Craig


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RE: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) wrote:

 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:14:50 -0400
 From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic

 This is for Craig. I believe you are at home today.  Can we do a better job
 of listing companies that are in process of developing applications in
 struts or already have applications in production. This helpes in convincing
 managements to take a
 more closer look at sturt.
 Thanks


Well, this certainly sounds like an opportunity for you to submit a patch
that improves the website (which is just the struts-documentation web app
:-).  Companies that want to be listed can do so, if they obey the
requirements about advertising the fact that they use Struts and/or Apache
Software Foundation software packages.

Of course, none of this helps if the companies using Struts cannot be
listed (because the usage is on internal company webapps), or don't *want*
to be listed (because they consider their choice of Struts to be a
strategic advantage that they don't want their competitors to know about
:-).

As with code changes, patches to the resources pages (including the
Powered by Struts page) are welcome.

Craig


 -Original Message-
 From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:05 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic




 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter A. J. Pilgrim wrote:

  
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
  
 
  What is the format of the patches that developers /contributer patches
 submit?
  Is it a context difference?
 
  diff -c  acme.java  acme.java.orig
 

 The specific instructions on submitting patches are on the following page:

   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html

 which is accessible from the page I quoted above.  You need to use the
 *unified* diff format, via one of the following commands:

   cvs diff -u acme.java  patchfile.txt

   diff -u acme.java.orig acme.java  patchfile.txt

 and then add the patchfile as an attachment to an enhancement request (or
 bug report) in the bug tracking system.  The cvs diff version is
 preferred, because it unambiguously identifies the version of the source
 file that your patch is against -- if you use the regular diff command,
 please be explicit about which version of the source you are patching.


  --
  Peter Pilgrim

 Craig


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RE: [Contributing] Re: all this traffic

2002-09-29 Thread Hookom, Jacob John

I agree, from observing what others are developing, it seems that about 80% of the 
applications are for intranets.  I know even our campus is using struts for various 
project management applications.  Could we offer links to the sites? No.  Is the 
presentation layer what counts? No.
 
What would be advantagous is a case study page-- how struts helped us do what we 
needed in a timely manner.  I believe that would be much more practical than a bunch 
of links to web sites to check out the pretty graphics.
 
I remember reading a great article in Java Developer about Cocoon a little while back, 
the guy went on for nearly 2 pages on how he was able to use cocoon to help a law firm 
manage documents.  Something like that is 10 fold more beneficial than having the 
author just post a link to the site he did.
 
Regards
Jacob Hookom
University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) wrote:

 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:14:50 -0400
 From: Khan, Manuchehar A (ACF) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 This is for Craig. I believe you are at home today.  Can we do a better job
 of listing companies that are in process of developing applications in
 struts or already have applications in production. This helpes in convincing
 managements to take a
 more closer look at sturt.
 Thanks


Well, this certainly sounds like an opportunity for you to submit a patch
that improves the website (which is just the struts-documentation web app
:-).  Companies that want to be listed can do so, if they obey the
requirements about advertising the fact that they use Struts and/or Apache
Software Foundation software packages.

Of course, none of this helps if the companies using Struts cannot be
listed (because the usage is on internal company webapps), or don't *want*
to be listed (because they consider their choice of Struts to be a
strategic advantage that they don't want their competitors to know about
:-).

As with code changes, patches to the resources pages (including the
Powered by Struts page) are welcome.

Craig


 -Original Message-
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 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter A. J. Pilgrim wrote:

  
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
  
 
  What is the format of the patches that developers /contributer patches
 submit?
  Is it a context difference?
 
  diff -c  acme.java  acme.java.orig
 

 The specific instructions on submitting patches are on the following page:

   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html

 which is accessible from the page I quoted above.  You need to use the
 *unified* diff format, via one of the following commands:

   cvs diff -u acme.java  patchfile.txt

   diff -u acme.java.orig acme.java  patchfile.txt

 and then add the patchfile as an attachment to an enhancement request (or
 bug report) in the bug tracking system.  The cvs diff version is
 preferred, because it unambiguously identifies the version of the source
 file that your patch is against -- if you use the regular diff command,
 please be explicit about which version of the source you are patching.


  --
  Peter Pilgrim

 Craig


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Security bug in the sample application?

2002-09-29 Thread Cuneyt Karul

Hi,

I was playing with the sample application that comes with struts and I noticed a 
strange behavior. I just wanted to check out if this is expected, and if so what is 
the best way to solve this problem.

When I log on with a valid user the application takes me to the page:
http://localhost:8080/struts-example/logon.do

Here I choose the Log off MailReader Demonstration Application link which logs me off 
from the application.

Then I use BACK button of my browser to go to the logon.do page and reload this page.
I expect the application to send me back to the logon page (and it does so for all the 
other pages).

On the browser I get a message like this page can not be refreshed without resending 
the information.
I hit retry and volla I'm logged back to the application without even being prompted 
for username and password.

I modified the code to trace this in server logs and noticed that both username and 
the password are actually kept in the memory and sent back to the server.

Is there a nice way to prevent this behavior?

Thanks

Cuneyt Karul




RE: Pre-populating ActionForms

2002-09-29 Thread Mohan Radhakrishnan

Hi,
 I have actually set up a 'Setup' form and action. After login, I
forward to setup.jsp, that doesn't show anything(though is is a jsp) but
pre-populates the form. How do you forward from there to the JSP that shows
the pre-populated form ? There is no submit action on setup.jsp.
bye,
Mohan

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Override the 'reset' method of the ActionForm descendant, set your initial
values in there, then (most likely) when you want to reference the page,
reference the .do that would forward you out to that page.

Hope that helps.



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RE: Help Re: cancel and session-scope form

2002-09-29 Thread Tal Lev-Ami

You can add another action without a form-bean that will implement the
cancel functionality and in all other cases forward the request to your real
action where the ActionForm will be populated.

Tal Lev-Ami
Trivnet Ltd.

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Thanks for the tip, but I'm trying to avoid javascript as much as 
possible.  It looks like I'll have to go ahead and manage my session 
form manually, and use a request-scoped form so that the auto-population 
doesn't blow away the properties.  

Thanks again,
Angie

Eddie Bush wrote:

 Actually ... I've never done this before, but ...

 Why couldn't you invoke a javascript method on your Cancel button that 
 invoked the forms reset method?  That might be the easiest solution ...

 Eddie Bush wrote:

 Just quickly thinking it over ...

 When your form submits, you're going to hit an action.  Your action 
 is going to look and see what the user told you they wanted to do and 
 act appropriately.  Now, that doesn't help you keep the form from 
 being populated, but you can certainly keep from updating your 
 persistent storage using this information - and know that, instead, 
 you should request fresh data to repopulate the form with.  I like to 
 rename my buttons to something like action or userAction - and 
 give all of them the same name - so I can judge off the value of that 
 parameter what the user is telling me they'd like to have happen.

 That's my spontaneous, first-cut answer.  I can't think of a way to 
 circumvent the population ... 




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