RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-18 Thread message message
Why not filter you out.
Perhaps because you are white.
Or perhaps you represent certain interests.



From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400
Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and
arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago.
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat
arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion
fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and
consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally
considered unnecessary.
It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that
such a high volume list can remain so productive.
All the best,
Adam
On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote:

 I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that
 includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is.

 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400


 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings.
 A discussion is going on about verify applications and the
 consequences.

 I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my
 posting.

 To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a
 qualification you gave yourself
 but I do not recognise it.


 From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200

 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the
 job well. ;)

 Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC],
 [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read
 first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the
 reason I subscribed to
 this mailinglist. ;)

 ciao

 --Alen


 - Original Message -
 From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM
 Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified


  This discussion has gotten a little wonky.  Let me suggest you add
 [OT] to
  this stuff.
 
  At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote:
 
  Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using
 tomcat or
  JBOSS,
  I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could
  write applications using J2EE without  paying for the J2EE
  compliancy fee.
  
  From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
  
  
  There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's
 websphere 3.5
  wasn't j2ee compliant ?
  
  From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
  
  The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are
 verified,
 you
  can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but
 company
 x
  is not. Who knows what it will do?
  
  Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea
 threw back
  when IBM didn't certify their app server?
  
  In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my
  current clients is verifying a couple of their major products.
  
  BAL
  
  From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
  
  what is the point of verified application ?
  Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes
 with the
  j2ee bundle
  from java.sun.com
  
  
  From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
  
  They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare
 minimum to
  verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year,
  $15k
 for
  each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any
  support during the verification process.
  
  It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify
  your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the
  checklist and
 get a
  sun verified product.
  
  BAL
  
  From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 [EMAIL

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-18 Thread message message
Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer.
I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum.


From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400
Why not filter you out.
Perhaps because you are white.
Or perhaps you represent certain interests.



From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400
Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative 
and
arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat
arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion
fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and
consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally
considered unnecessary.
It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that
such a high volume list can remain so productive.
All the best,
Adam
On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote:

 I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that
 includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is.

 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400


 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings.
 A discussion is going on about verify applications and the
 consequences.

 I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my
 posting.

 To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a
 qualification you gave yourself
 but I do not recognise it.


 From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200

 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the
 job well. ;)

 Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC],
 [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read
 first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the
 reason I subscribed to
 this mailinglist. ;)

 ciao

 --Alen


 - Original Message -
 From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM
 Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified


  This discussion has gotten a little wonky.  Let me suggest you add
 [OT] to
  this stuff.
 
  At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote:
 
  Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using
 tomcat or
  JBOSS,
  I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could
  write applications using J2EE without  paying for the J2EE
  compliancy fee.
  
  From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
  
  
  There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's
 websphere 3.5
  wasn't j2ee compliant ?
  
  From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
  
  The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are
 verified,
 you
  can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but
 company
 x
  is not. Who knows what it will do?
  
  Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea
 threw back
  when IBM didn't certify their app server?
  
  In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my
  current clients is verifying a couple of their major products.
  
  BAL
  
  From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
  
  what is the point of verified application ?
  Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes
 with the
  j2ee bundle
  from java.sun.com
  
  
  From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
  
  They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare
 minimum to
  verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year,
  $15k
 for
  each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any
  support during the verification

[OT] BaseBean portal

2003-08-17 Thread message message
Does know anybody anything about the portal from www.baseBean.com

Perhaps they would care to comment on it  ?

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Re: [OT] BaseBean portal

2003-08-17 Thread message message
You haven't looked at it but couldn't resist making comments about me.
Do I know know everything. I use search engines for what I don't know.
From: Mark Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT]  BaseBean portal
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:54:19 +0100
To you? I thought you knew everything already, if there's an example to 
copy and paste that is..

I think its vic's site. He's one of the commiters and done some stuff with 
iBatis and struts I think..

Why are you still looking for other folks to do you work?

On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 03:33 PM, message message wrote:

Does know anybody anything about the portal from www.baseBean.com

Perhaps they would care to comment on it  ?

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Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-16 Thread message message
There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings.
A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences.
I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting.

To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification 
you gave yourself
but I do not recognise it.


From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200
Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it.
Does the job well. ;)
Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC],
[???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or
two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to
this mailinglist. ;)
ciao

--Alen

- Original Message -
From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 This discussion has gotten a little wonky.  Let me suggest you add [OT] 
to
 this stuff.

 At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote:

 Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat 
or
 JBOSS,
 I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write
 applications
 using J2EE without  paying for the J2EE compliancy fee.
 
 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
 
 
 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 
3.5
 wasn't j2ee compliant ?
 
 From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
 
 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified,
you
 can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but 
company
x
 is not. Who knows what it will do?
 
 Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw 
back
 when IBM didn't certify their app server?
 
 In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current
 clients is verifying a couple of their major products.
 
 BAL
 
 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
 
 what is the point of verified application ?
 Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the
 j2ee bundle
 from java.sun.com
 
 
 From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
 
 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum 
to
 verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for
 each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support
 during the verification process.
 
 It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your
 verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a
 sun verified product.
 
 BAL
 
 From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
 
 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version.
 Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified


 I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
 thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
 are j2ee verified (
 http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).

 I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
 Never heard of a web application getting certified which
 was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
 lurking in here. :)

 Thanks for the responses.

 Amin

 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: J2EE certified

 Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you 
say?
;)

 I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge
of 15
 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation
 for my j2ee app.




 On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote:
  http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-16 Thread message message
I should also inform you that I am writing my own product
that includes marketing.
It is none of your business what the product is.
From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400
There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings.
A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences.
I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting.

To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification 
you gave yourself
but I do not recognise it.


From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200
Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it.
Does the job well. ;)
Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC],
[???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or
two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to
this mailinglist. ;)
ciao

--Alen

- Original Message -
From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
 This discussion has gotten a little wonky.  Let me suggest you add [OT] 
to
 this stuff.

 At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote:

 Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat 
or
 JBOSS,
 I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write
 applications
 using J2EE without  paying for the J2EE compliancy fee.
 
 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
 
 
 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 
3.5
 wasn't j2ee compliant ?
 
 From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
 
 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified,
you
 can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but 
company
x
 is not. Who knows what it will do?
 
 Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw 
back
 when IBM didn't certify their app server?
 
 In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current
 clients is verifying a couple of their major products.
 
 BAL
 
 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
 
 what is the point of verified application ?
 Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with 
the
 j2ee bundle
 from java.sun.com
 
 
 From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
 
 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum 
to
 verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for
 each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support
 during the verification process.
 
 It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your
 verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get 
a
 sun verified product.
 
 BAL
 
 From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
 
 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial 
version.
 Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version 
:)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified


 I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
 thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
 are j2ee verified (
 http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).

 I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
 Never heard of a web application getting certified which
 was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
 lurking in here. :)

 Thanks for the responses.

 Amin

 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: J2EE certified

 Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you 
say?
;)

 I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although

RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-15 Thread message message
It is in your own benefit to do the J2EE tutorials.
I don't think it is very clever to send messages with your opinions with out
actually doing the tutorials.
Struts being model neutral means you can also use it with  EJBs/JMS etc.
Going around reading books from o'reillys and mastering  EJBs etc.
will get you now where apart from wasting your time  money, furthermore
you will continue to form ill - informed opinions based on ill advised 
books.


From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version.
Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :)


   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  
  
   I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
   thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
   are j2ee verified (
   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).
  
   I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
   Never heard of a web application getting certified which
   was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
   lurking in here. :)
  
   Thanks for the responses.
  
   Amin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
  
   Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;)
  
   I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15
   grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation
   for my j2ee app.
  
  
  
  
   On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html
   
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: OT: J2EE certified
   
   
   Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for
   a J2EE web
   app?
   
   Struts question,
   
   I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's
   the Servlet
   action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas?
   --- error
   
   javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error
   processing resource
   path
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1035)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1014)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action
   Servlet.ja
   va:955)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.
   java:470)
at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256)
   - snip
   -
   
   Amin
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
   
   J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application.
   JMS, EJB, XML
   processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail..
   just to begin
   with.
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   
   
   Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean
   
   my app using
   
   Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE
   
   certified web
   
   app.
   
   Plus, not all question on the list are about struts
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Shane Mingins
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   So where's the Struts question?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m.
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   I meant getting a web application certified
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   
   
   Amin
   
You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component
   
   Developer),
   
   its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have
   JCP to take this exam.
   
   Raghu
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: J2EE 

RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-15 Thread message message
what is the point of verified application ?
Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee 
bundle
from java.sun.com


From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify 
your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each 
additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the 
verification process.

It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification 
so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified 
product.

BAL

From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version.
Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :)


   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  
  
   I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
   thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
   are j2ee verified (
   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).
  
   I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
   Never heard of a web application getting certified which
   was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
   lurking in here. :)
  
   Thanks for the responses.
  
   Amin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
  
   Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;)
  
   I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15
   grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation
   for my j2ee app.
  
  
  
  
   On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html
   
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: OT: J2EE certified
   
   
   Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for
   a J2EE web
   app?
   
   Struts question,
   
   I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's
   the Servlet
   action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas?
   --- error
   
   javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error
   processing resource
   path
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1035)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1014)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action
   Servlet.ja
   va:955)
at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.
   java:470)
at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256)
   - snip
   -
   
   Amin
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
   
   J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application.
   JMS, EJB, XML
   processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail..
   just to begin
   with.
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   
   
   Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean
   
   my app using
   
   Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE
   
   certified web
   
   app.
   
   Plus, not all question on the list are about struts
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Shane Mingins
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   So where's the Struts question?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m.
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   I meant getting a web application certified
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   
   
   Amin
   
You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component
   
   

RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-15 Thread message message
There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 
wasn't j2ee compliant ?

From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you 
can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is 
not. Who knows what it will do?

Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when 
IBM didn't certify their app server?

In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients 
is verifying a couple of their major products.

BAL

From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
what is the point of verified application ?
Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee 
bundle
from java.sun.com


From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to 
verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each 
additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the 
verification process.

It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your 
verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun 
verified product.

BAL

From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version.
Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :)


   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  
  
   I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
   thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
   are j2ee verified (
   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).
  
   I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
   Never heard of a web application getting certified which
   was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
   lurking in here. :)
  
   Thanks for the responses.
  
   Amin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
  
   Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;)
  
   I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15
   grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation
   for my j2ee app.
  
  
  
  
   On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html
   
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: OT: J2EE certified
   
   
   Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for
   a J2EE web
   app?
   
   Struts question,
   
   I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's
   the Servlet
   action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas?
   --- error
   
   javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error
   processing resource
   path
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1035)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1014)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action
   Servlet.ja
   va:955)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.
   java:470)
   	at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256)
   - snip
   -
   
   Amin
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
   
   J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application.
   JMS, EJB, XML
   processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail..
   just to begin
   with.
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
   
   
   
   Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean
   
   my app using
   
   Struts is J2EE certified

RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-15 Thread message message
Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or 
JBOSS,
I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write 
applications
using J2EE without  paying for the J2EE compliancy fee.

From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 
wasn't j2ee compliant ?

From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you 
can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x 
is not. Who knows what it will do?

Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back 
when IBM didn't certify their app server?

In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients 
is verifying a couple of their major products.

BAL

From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
what is the point of verified application ?
Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee 
bundle
from java.sun.com


From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to 
verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each 
additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the 
verification process.

It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your 
verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun 
verified product.

BAL

From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version.
Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :)


   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: RE: J2EE certified
  
  
   I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the
   thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products
   are j2ee verified (
   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ).
  
   I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'.
   Never heard of a web application getting certified which
   was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are
   lurking in here. :)
  
   Thanks for the responses.
  
   Amin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
  
   Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;)
  
   I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 
15
   grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation
   for my j2ee app.
  
  
  
  
   On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html
   
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
   To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
   Subject: OT: J2EE certified
   
   
   Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for
   a J2EE web
   app?
   
   Struts question,
   
   I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's
   the Servlet
   action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas?
   --- error
   
   javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error
   processing resource
   path
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1035)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A
   ctionServl
   et.java:1014)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action
   Servlet.ja
   va:955)
   	at
   org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.
   java:470)
   	at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256)
   - snip
   -
   
   Amin
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: J2EE certified
   
   J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application.
   JMS, EJB, XML
   processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA

RE: J2EE certified [Off-Topic]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
He was referring to the Verifier tool AKA  write once run anywhere.


From: Mainguy, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: J2EE certified [Off-Topic]
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:15:42 -0400
I'll certify it for $1000

-Original Message-
From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE certified
A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I
could only find getting an application server certified not the
application.
Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a
certification for Java web apps?
Amin

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RE: OT: J2EE certified

2003-08-14 Thread message message
You mean you have to refer to it as J2EE COMPLIANT.
This is an advisory post, please do not misconstrue it as a complaint.
From: PREETAM Balijepalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: J2EE certified
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:30:00 +0530
you have to pronunce it as J2ee Complaint not certified

-Original Message-
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:23 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: OT: J2EE certified
On 08/14/2003 04:26 AM Mohd Amin Mohd Din wrote:
 Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web
 app?

You want to certify a WEB APP? You mean the code and the database etc?
The answer is no. Normally only people get the certification.
Adam

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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
What is the criteria of the list ?


From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] - [TOPIC]  - [VOTE]
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
-1

We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than a
few that you listed.
Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.  
There
is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the threads
here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save 
what
you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail client.  That
makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.

--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx


 -Original Message-
 From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
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 Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]


 With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult to
 search for mails to read or not to read.
 For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.

 We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following categories.
 If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on the struts
 site too.

 By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails and
 read/answer those that interest you.
 I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.

 [OT]  -Off Topic
 [FB]  -Form Bean
 [AF]  -Action Form
 [RP]  -Request Processor
 [AS]  -ActionServlet
 [SC]  -Scope Related mails
 [GE]  -General Error
 [DG]  -Design Consideration
 [PR]  -Problem in Struts
 [TL]  -Tiles
 [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
 [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
 [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
 [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library

 etc

 Shall we start voting for this...!!!

 Regards,
 Puneet Agarwal

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RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation

2003-08-14 Thread message message
In theory if you have a file called application_fr.properties in
your appname/WEB-INF/classes/resources directory then all the text will
be replaced with French.
Based on the assumption that the browser is configured to French.
Therefore no coding is required.
However what happens if the browser is configured to spanish when
you only have a file for French and English ?
Is there a default or will this cause an error  ?
From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:51:53 -0400
From what you are saying I think you should try:

message-resources parameter=application/
in your struts config file.  Since you specifically say
application.properties as the name of your file.
For instance my file is also called application.properties as opposed to
aApplicationResources.properties or something.  But since mine in a
resources directory off of the classes directory I declare mine as:
message-resources parameter=resources.application/

So I am assuming struts takes the last name in the parameter as the file
name and anything before it as directory structure.


-Message d'origine-
De : Samanth Athrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date : mercredi 13 août 2003 16:57
Objet : application.properties file location
Hi,

I have my application.properties file stored in the classes directory. 
But
the application is unable to locate and load this file. Any tips would 
be
of
great help.

Thanks,
Samanth Athrey




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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-14 Thread message message
After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click  
select run.
So I did.

The browser started automatically saying The page cannot be displayed.

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple sample 
program.

I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.












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Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1

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There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation

Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.

Thanks
Nazeer
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Subject: Application Design Document
Hi everyone,

I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our client
is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and what
it should include.
I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions and
their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
appreciate any individual experiences.
Thanks,
Tarek M. Nabil
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Test questions

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Somebody wrote earlier that people were filing test questions ?
What  is the purpose of test questions ?
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RE: Sample code to upload file with struts

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Have look at the Stringtokenizer class.
It can be used to read characters separated by commas.

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Take a look at struts-upload application that is shipped with struts.

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I need a sample code to upload a file selected by the user
c:\myfolder\filetoupload.csv
Please help
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RE: Application Design Document

2003-08-14 Thread message message
WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1

From: Syed, Nazeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation

Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.

Thanks
Nazeer
-Original Message-
From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Struts (E-mail)
Subject: Application Design Document
Hi everyone,

I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our client
is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and what
it should include.
I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions and
their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
appreciate any individual experiences.
Thanks,
Tarek M. Nabil
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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
or should I say Skoda.
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Isn't Tata Consultancy Services an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds like 
a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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Re: Struts plugin for eclipse

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Yes I have , what would you like to know ?


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Subject: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
Does anyone already configured struts plugin for eclipse? If so, i would 
like to hear detailed steps in configuring it and also which plugin to use. 
How is the struts-config-editor 
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/ ? let me 
know in detail steps.

Thanks,

Vicky

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Re: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-14 Thread message message


I have already made postings about the mistakes I have found so far.


From: Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:23:18 -0400
There are many books, and many people offer on site public training 
demonstrating hands on how easy it is to do your example: Using tag libs, 
iterate and mulit row update in a master detail.
Correctly you observed that learning is required to master any new skill.

One way to look at Struts is (Churchill I think):
Struts is the worst framework... except for every other one out there
.V
Jitesh Sinha wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers which 
I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to
develop his app
Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to understand
what this tag will do...


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Re: struts war files in weblogic

2003-08-14 Thread message message
cheers.


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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:59:03 +0200
you can:
use admin console and deploy via gui interface.
e.g.
http://localhost:7001/console
--Alen

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Subject: struts war files in weblogic

 Is it possible to deploy a struts war file into weblogic  ?
 Is so where is it placed  ?


 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:41:51 +0400
 
 
 I bet these people starting blocking messages now.
 
 
 
 From: Mark Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:16:30 +0100
 
 man.. I think that's savagely out of order..
 
 I doubt the time you have wasted compares to the amount of time such 
a
 framework saves you. Have a look at some other open source projects,
 you'll soon start to see that struts is well documented and there are
 plenty of examples. Its more than you'll get with most projects.
 
 
 On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:15 AM, message message wrote:
 
 
 I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time,
 and should save you alot of time.
 As these people are used to releasing beta versions,
 their example applications are wriiten with the mentality
 of, it is only a beta it which will change.
 Frankly  the example applications stink.
 I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
 the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production
 ready,tried and tested.
 I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple
example
 application also doesn't work and needed correcting.
 
 
 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400
 
 
 I suggest you use a professional version.
 You will save yourself alot of time.
 These American companies have a culture of releasing beta
functionality.
 Hyping it up.
 Getting  people from the industry to test it free.
 Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by
selling
 to you
 after having had your free feedback.
 I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
 That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
 It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
 Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
 such luxuries of beta versions.
 
 The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on
 licensing fees)
 and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
 How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.
 
 
 From: Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
 
 I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
 Struts...and it went quite smoothly
 as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is
 concerned,that
 was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some  basic
thing
 which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of
 development...
 
 Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will 
try
 that..
 
 And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation:
 giving
 examples certainly helps ...
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
 
 
 Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework
and
 come
 back in about a year and let us know how it went.
 
 I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed 
and
 you
 won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how
bad
 the
 doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the
 developers
 on this list who use Struts.
 
 That's just MHO
 
 Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
 Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag 
libraries...now
if
 these tags cannot
 do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant 
numbers
 which I
 had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it 
completely
 to
 develop his app
 Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to
 understand
 what this tag will do...
 
 
 
 
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broken link

2003-08-14 Thread message message
The example for wireless using struts listed here.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/examples.html
The link is broken
Sample hdml/wireless based struts application
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Re: [OT]Re: struts war files in weblogic

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Using the configuration wizard -
- created a domain called mydoman.
- accepted default configuration in development mode,
I found a readme.html file in  
.../user_project/domains/mydomain/applications.
Readme.html says place .war in this directory.

Thanks Again   Cool!
Coffee have you tried visiting Internet Cafe with Ant -:)

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Subject: [OT]Re: struts war files in weblogic
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:48:54 -0500 (CDT)
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Gregory F. March wrote:

 I have my ant script put my war in the directory:

 .../config/mydomain/applications

 I also have a target that can put the exploded war in the same place.
 This is with WLS 6.1 SP4.  I believe the same works for 8.

Yes, except it will be (for 8.1 sp1)
.../user_projects/domains/mydomain/applications
if you picked the defaults when you ran the configuration wizard. You
could have changed where you domain directory is located. If you are
running your server in development mode, Weblogic will poll for
applications to deploy in that applications folder under your domain
directory. There is also an Ant task available with Weblogic that will
allow you to use the deployer tool from Ant. For development, I use Ant to
copy files to an exploded directory under that applications folder and use
the Weblogic deploy task to reload the app when necessary. Actually, I use
Ant to do about everything. Now, if only Ant would go and get me coffee
...


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Re: application.properties file location

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Play about with it until it works.

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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:27:23 +0530
Hi,

I have my application.properties file stored in the classes directory. But
the application is unable to locate and load this file. Any tips would be 
of
great help.

Thanks,
Samanth Athrey


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Re: Struts plugin for eclipse

2003-08-14 Thread message message
prerequisite
step 1.  download   GEF-runtime-I20030618.zip   from 
http://www.eclipse.org/gef/
unzip and copy files to eclipse plug-in directory.

step 2.   follow the steps here for the actual graphical design editor
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/ressources/usingTheUpdateManager.html


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Subject: Re: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:28:15 +0400
Yes I have , what would you like to know ?


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Subject: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
Does anyone already configured struts plugin for eclipse? If so, i would 
like to hear detailed steps in configuring it and also which plugin to 
use. How is the struts-config-editor 
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/ ? let me 
know in detail steps.

Thanks,

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Re: Apache Tomcat web servers

2003-08-14 Thread message message
Perhaps it is not a good option for you in terms of economics.
But do you have the flexibility of being able to change your application 
functionality
at anytime ?
I have more Bandwidth with my package deal furthermore
I can host a number of sites although I haven't tried out hosting mutiple 
website sites.


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Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:51:18 +0200
Yes, but is that much cheaper?

For a start it would require the hardware, plus of course it would cost 
about 100 euros a year in electricity, plus the upload bandwidth on my DSL 
is only 256 kbps (is that the right unit?), (download is  1000).

message message wrote:
Have you considered running tomcat  apache on your machine
and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises.


From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200
How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? 
And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, 
but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. 
What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars 
almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD  75 Gigs traffic per 
month.

The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / 
month.

Adam

Philip Seay wrote:

Yan,

Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at
http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll
Regards,
Phil Seay
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers

Hi,

I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding
it very difficult locating a suitable host.
Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache
server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container?  I prefer a UK based
host as this is where I reside.
I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called
'Houxou '.  This is what they have replied:
Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on
our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist
with two competitors on the same machine:
Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP

I am not sure what they mean

Any advice would be gratefully received

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Re: Struts plugin for eclipse

2003-08-14 Thread message message
After going through the manual install which I is believe the stage you have 
reached.
Restarting Eclipse should load the plug-in(s).

Do you know how to create a new project ?
If no then email back for this part.
Assumption
You have a created and setup/mounted a struts projects in Eclipse.
You have selected Window-Open Perspective - Resources.
Struts-config.xml is closed (not open using some other editor in Eclipse).
1. select Struts-config.xml so that it is highlighted.
2. Still focused on Struts-config.xml Click using the right mouse button, 
this
should produce a drop down list.
3. From the drop down list choose Open With by placing your mouse on this 
option.
4. Another list box should appear with the option Struts Config Editor. 
(This will tell you that
the plug-in is loaded successfully).
Choosing the open with - Struts Config Editor  option should produce the 
image you are referring to.


From: Vicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT)
Since i was not able to get plugin using update manager i have downloaded 
zip and have unzipped per following Instruction on web-site.
If your cannot use the update manager online, a zip version is avalaible. 
After unzipping, you will need to copy the files inside your eclipse 
installation directory.
Now struts-plugin files resides under following directory 
Eclipse\eclipse\features and Eclipse\eclipse\plugins. Still i am not able 
to use plugin from eclipse? what else do i need to change in configuration 
to see following screen in my environment?.
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/images/plug-in.gif

message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
prerequisite
step 1. download GEF-runtime-I20030618.zip from
http://www.eclipse.org/gef/
unzip and copy files to eclipse plug-in directory.
step 2. follow the steps here for the actual graphical design editor
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/ressources/usingTheUpdateManager.html


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:28:15 +0400

Yes I have , what would you like to know ?


From: Vicky
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To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Struts plugin for eclipse
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:21:08 -0700 (PDT)


Does anyone already configured struts plugin for eclipse? If so, i would
like to hear detailed steps in configuring it and also which plugin to
use. How is the struts-config-editor
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/ ? let me
know in detail steps.

Thanks,

Vicky


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Re: struts war files in weblogic

2003-08-14 Thread message message
thanks.


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On Aug 11, 2003, message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 |Is it possible to deploy a struts war file into weblogic  ?
 |Is so where is it placed  ?
I have my ant script put my war in the directory:

.../config/mydomain/applications

I also have a target that can put the exploded war in the same place.
This is with WLS 6.1 SP4.  I believe the same works for 8.
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2003-08-14 Thread message message
Is it possible to deploy a struts war file into weblogic  ?
Is so where is it placed  ?

From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:41:51 +0400
I bet these people starting blocking messages now.



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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:16:30 +0100
man.. I think that's savagely out of order..

I doubt the time you have wasted compares to the amount of time such a 
framework saves you. Have a look at some other open source projects, 
you'll soon start to see that struts is well documented and there are 
plenty of examples. Its more than you'll get with most projects.

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:15 AM, message message wrote:

I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time,
and should save you alot of time.
As these people are used to releasing beta versions,
their example applications are wriiten with the mentality
of, it is only a beta it which will change.
Frankly  the example applications stink.
I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production 
ready,tried and tested.
I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple example
application also doesn't work and needed correcting.


From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400
I suggest you use a professional version.
You will save yourself alot of time.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta functionality.
Hyping it up.
Getting  people from the industry to test it free.
Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by selling 
to you
after having had your free feedback.
I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
such luxuries of beta versions.

The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on 
licensing fees)
and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.


From: Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
Struts...and it went quite smoothly
as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is 
concerned,that
was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some  basic thing
which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of 
development...

Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try 
that..

And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: 
giving
examples certainly helps ...



-Original Message-
From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and 
come
back in about a year and let us know how it went.

I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and 
you
won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how bad 
the
doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the 
developers
on this list who use Struts.

That's just MHO

Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers 
which I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely 
to
develop his app
Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to 
understand
what this tag will do...



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RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation

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Also I was curious about languages ( i.e.Arabic based) which are written 
from right to left.
Can I have a sample file with right to left text
which says the following

welcome.title=Welcome title
welcome.heading=Welcome heading
welcome.message=To get started on your own application
I want to rename this right to left file to application.properties
and try it out.
Thanks

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Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:21:23 -0400


It is built-in to the properties file framework.
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/i18n/intro/steps.html
I believe Struts will get the correct properties file based on the locale
set for each remote user.
Create files like:
application.properties
application_en_US.properties
application_fr_FR.properties
application_de_DE.properties
The first one is the default and all the rest should be selected
automatically depending on the remote user's locale.  I don't have an
Internationalization specification on my project so this is what I beilieve
to be true.
Someone else can verify.



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Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation
In theory if you have a file called application_fr.properties in your
appname/WEB-INF/classes/resources directory then all the text will be
replaced with French.
Based on the assumption that the browser is configured to French.
Therefore no coding is required.
However what happens if the browser is configured to spanish when you only
have a file for French and English ?
Is there a default or will this an error  ?
From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:51:53 -0400


From what you are saying I think you should try:

message-resources parameter=application/
in your struts config file.  Since you specifically say
application.properties as the name of your file.

For instance my file is also called application.properties as opposed 
to
aApplicationResources.properties or something.  But since mine in a
resources directory off of the classes directory I declare mine as:

message-resources parameter=resources.application/

So I am assuming struts takes the last name in the parameter as the file
name and anything before it as directory structure.



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Date : mercredi 13 août 2003 16:57
Objet : application.properties file location


 Hi,
 
 I have my application.properties file stored in the classes directory.
But
 the application is unable to locate and load this file. Any tips would 
be
of
 great help.
 
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RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation

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In theory if you have a file called application_fr.properties in your
appname/WEB-INF/classes/resources directory then all the text will be 
replaced with French.
Based on the assumption that the browser is configured to French.
Therefore no coding is required.

However what happens if the browser is configured to spanish when you only 
have a file for French and English ?
Is there a default or will this an error  ?

From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:51:53 -0400
From what you are saying I think you should try:

message-resources parameter=application/
in your struts config file.  Since you specifically say
application.properties as the name of your file.
For instance my file is also called application.properties as opposed to
aApplicationResources.properties or something.  But since mine in a
resources directory off of the classes directory I declare mine as:
message-resources parameter=resources.application/

So I am assuming struts takes the last name in the parameter as the file
name and anything before it as directory structure.


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Objet : application.properties file location
Hi,

I have my application.properties file stored in the classes directory. 
But
the application is unable to locate and load this file. Any tips would be
of
great help.

Thanks,
Samanth Athrey




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RE: J2EE certified

2003-08-14 Thread message message


If you download the J2EE  V.1.3 bundle from www.java.sun.com/j2ee
Then go through the tutorials which can be found at 
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/tutorial/1_3-fcs/doc/J2eetutorialTOC.html
You will come across a tool called the verifier.
The verifier can be used to verify whether an .EAR ,.WAR ,JAR are J2EE 
compliant.
Struts framework uses a WAR file.

This page shows you the instructions on how to use the verifier.
It is an extract from J2EE the tutorial.
www.java.sun.com/j2ee/tutorial/1_3-fcs/doc/tools11.html
In theory, you should be able to deploy any .EAR,WAR,JAR
file on any of the J2EE compliant application server.
For instance if you take a  Struts War (Web Application (I can't remember 
what R mean))
file, which you may have developed on tomcat using your favourite free bie 
GUI IDE.

Then you should deploy it on the Application Server which comes with the 
J2EE bundle.
Then run the verifier to make sure it is J2EE compliant.
If  the Verifier does not throw any errors this means that
in theory you can deploy your WAR file on Weblogic or Websphere 4.0 + 
,SilverStream.
with out any problems.
Another words your WAR (Web Application) file has been verified or certified 
to be J2EE compliant.


From: Thamarajah Dharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: J2EE certified
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:52:01 -0400
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html



 -Original Message-
 From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: OT: J2EE certified


 Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for
 a J2EE web
 app?

 Struts question,

 I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet
 action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas?
 --- error 
 javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource
 path
at
 org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A
 ctionServl
 et.java:1035)
at
 org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A
 ctionServl
 et.java:1014)
at
 org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action
 Servlet.ja
 va:955)
at
 org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:470)
at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256)
 - snip -

 Amin

 -Original Message-
 From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: J2EE certified

 J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application.
 JMS, EJB, XML
 processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin
 with.


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 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM
 Subject: RE: J2EE certified


  Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean
 my app using
  Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE
 certified web
  app.
 
  Plus, not all question on the list are about struts
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM
  To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 
  So where's the Struts question?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m.
  To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 
  I meant getting a web application certified
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM
  To: Struts Users Mailing List
  Subject: RE: J2EE certified
 
 
 
  Amin
 
   You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component
 Developer),
  its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have
  JCP to take this exam.
 
  Raghu
 
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  From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM
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  Subject: J2EE certified
 
 
  A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE
 certified. I
  could only find getting an application server certified not the
  application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE
 certified
 or
  is there a certification for Java web apps?
 
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RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation

2003-08-14 Thread message message
If I get hold of a sample file with Arabic type text, as described below,
then I guess we would be sure of what happens   :(
So many people logged on this line there must be one person !


From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:52:44 -0400


I think everything is supported except diagonal right to left (or is it
diagonal left to right).  Sorry, I'm not sure.  :)
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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation


Also I was curious about languages ( i.e.Arabic based) which are written
from right to left.
Can I have a sample file with right to left text
which says the following
welcome.title=Welcome title
welcome.heading=Welcome heading
welcome.message=To get started on your own application
I want to rename this right to left file to application.properties
and try it out.
Thanks

From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:21:23 -0400



It is built-in to the properties file framework.
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/i18n/intro/steps.html

I believe Struts will get the correct properties file based on the locale
set for each remote user.

Create files like:
application.properties
application_en_US.properties
application_fr_FR.properties
application_de_DE.properties

The first one is the default and all the rest should be selected
automatically depending on the remote user's locale.  I don't have an
Internationalization specification on my project so this is what I 
beilieve
to be true.

Someone else can verify.




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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: application.properties file location - Internationalisation


In theory if you have a file called application_fr.properties in your
appname/WEB-INF/classes/resources directory then all the text will be
replaced with French.
Based on the assumption that the browser is configured to French.
Therefore no coding is required.

However what happens if the browser is configured to spanish when you 
only
have a file for French and English ?
Is there a default or will this an error  ?

 From: Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: application.properties file location
 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:51:53 -0400
 
 
 From what you are saying I think you should try:
 
 message-resources parameter=application/
 in your struts config file.  Since you specifically say
 application.properties as the name of your file.
 
 For instance my file is also called application.properties as opposed
to
 aApplicationResources.properties or something.  But since mine in a
 resources directory off of the classes directory I declare mine as:
 
 message-resources parameter=resources.application/
 
 So I am assuming struts takes the last name in the parameter as the 
file
 name and anything before it as directory structure.
 
 
 
 -Message d'origine-
 De : Samanth Athrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date : mercredi 13 août 2003 16:57
 Objet : application.properties file location
 
 
  Hi,
  
  I have my application.properties file stored in the classes 
directory.
 But
  the application is unable to locate and load this file. Any tips 
would
be
 of
  great help.
  
  Thanks,
  Samanth Athrey
  
  
  
  
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Re: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-14 Thread message message
keep your abuse to yourself  Mr. I have nothing to say so I might as well 
make a posting.
Want ideas go and do reaserch.
I paid for the book , I spent time correcting the examples.
I can complain.
The only parasite I can see here between the two of us is you.

From: Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: struts-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:21:40 +0100
On 11/08/2003 09:15 message message wrote:
Frankly  the example applications stink.
The provide something better and stop being a parasite. Or don't use 
Struts...

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RE: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-14 Thread message message
I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time,
and should save you alot of time.
As these people are used to releasing beta versions,
their example applications are wriiten with the mentality
of, it is only a beta it which will change.
Frankly  the example applications stink.
I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production ready,tried 
and tested.
I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple example
application also doesn't work and needed correcting.


From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400
I suggest you use a professional version.
You will save yourself alot of time.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta functionality.
Hyping it up.
Getting  people from the industry to test it free.
Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by selling to 
you
after having had your free feedback.
I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
such luxuries of beta versions.

The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on licensing 
fees)
and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.


From: Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
Struts...and it went quite smoothly
as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is concerned,that
was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some  basic thing
which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of development...
Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try 
that..

And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: giving
examples certainly helps ...


-Original Message-
From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and 
come
back in about a year and let us know how it went.

I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and you
won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how bad 
the
doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the 
developers
on this list who use Struts.

That's just MHO

Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers which 
I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to
develop his app
Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to understand
what this tag will do...



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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-14 Thread message message
There are girls here too.
If you can't get one here then you can't get one there either.

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:58:54 -0400
Will there be girls?

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From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Another off topic note - With the increased need for professional Struts
Training, I decided to begin offering Struts Training Classes for beginner
through advanced users.  This would be outside the scope of my involvement
with Struts-Atlanta.
Struts-Atlanta is (and always will be) FREE.  The training classes/packages
would not be free and probably not be cheap (costs for instructors and
classrooms are not cheap).  As I said, I haven't formalized the packages
yet, but more info on this will follow.  Email me privately if you (or your
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Re: which presentation layer

2003-08-12 Thread message message
You might an opinion on the struts line  so I'll send it here  ?


From: objectworlds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: which presentation layer
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:49:14 +0100

Bearing in mind that I should use Servlets as the controller rather than
JSPs because Servlets
allows for binary content  unlike JSPs which are restricted to text.
I can 't make up my mind which presentation layer approach I should choose.
It is considered that  endless out.println( ..  statements are
difficult to read.
e.g.
PrintWriter  out =  response.getWriter();
out.println( Model 1 uses JSPs are the controller);
Some of the choices are :-
Tiles,
cocoon,
Apache JSTL,
layout  http://struts.application-servers.com/
Combination of servlets + JSPs.
i.e.
public class PopulateServlet extends HttpServlet {
protected  void doGet (HttpServletRequest req, HttpservletResponse res )
throws 
.
if(dbConnectionClosed)  {
   ServletContext ctx = getServletContext();
   ctx.getRequestDispatcher(/db_failed.jsp).forward(req,res);
 }
}
db_failed.jsp
html
body
br font color=red Unable to Connect/font
br Confirm that your database is running
/body
/html
I think choosing one approach is too complicated  so is there an expert
who can give me guidance  ?
Regard,
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Weblogic 6 SP 2

2003-08-11 Thread message message
Why was SP2 on weblogic 6 introduced.  ?

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RE: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-11 Thread message message
I suggest you use a professional version.
You will save yourself alot of time.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta functionality.
Hyping it up.
Getting  people from the industry to test it free.
Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by selling to 
you
after having had your free feedback.
I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
such luxuries of beta versions.

The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on licensing 
fees)
and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.


From: Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
Struts...and it went quite smoothly
as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is concerned,that
was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some  basic thing
which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of development...
Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try 
that..

And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: giving
examples certainly helps ...


-Original Message-
From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and come
back in about a year and let us know how it went.
I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and you
won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how bad the
doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the developers
on this list who use Struts.
That's just MHO

Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers which 
I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to
develop his app
Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to understand
what this tag will do...



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Re: WebLogic 8.1.1 and Struts 1.1/Tiles

2003-08-11 Thread message message


Have you applied SP1
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Subject: WebLogic 8.1.1 and Struts 1.1/Tiles
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:50:06 -0400
Has anyone had any issues with JSP's not compiling with WL 8.1.1 and Struts
1.1 using Tiles? I have just upgraded WL and some JSPs compile and others
dont.
Thanks,

Shane

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RE: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-11 Thread message message
I have a document called
Designing Enterprise Applications with the J2EEtm  Platform, second Edition.
This document tells me how Struts fits into J2EE.
I don't think the issue was what Struts can do for you.
We can read!
We were complaining about other things like why should we pay weblogic when 
weblogic
gets free advice by reading our emails then Weblogic charge us for their 
tool.

For example I once attending a conference where
software houses were displaying their products designed to
solve a problem in a particular industry.
When the salesman found out that I was a programmer for another company
who was also displaying our solutoon.
The Salesman wouldn't let me look at their product because
I might ideas on writing a product just like theirs.

From: Mike Jasnowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:04:24 -0400
Personally IMHO I think there is a common misconception among some people
that Struts solves more problems than it is intended to. I see people use
the phrase The Struts way.. often with regards to a problem it's not
intended to solve. Struts will give you alot, but it's not going to write
your app for you, it doesn't tell you how to write your app either.
my 2cents

-Original Message-
From: Greg Ludington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
(response about the initial iterate question at end):

Frankly  the example applications stink.
I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
Whom is this supposed to help?  People who do not like struts?  Nope --
if they do not like it, chances are they are not on this list.  People
who use and/or commit to struts?  Nope -- because you do not give any
indication of what you think is wrong with it, so they have no idea how
to help you, or to improve the product.  People on the fence, who may or
may not use it?  You might think you save these people some time by
scaring them off, but those who leave based on a lack of infomration
will likely have to make decisions without proper knowledge, which can
also be dangerous.  Criticism without focus or direction helps nobody.
Struts is not for everybody, nor is it even for every project -- and
nobody on this list would pretend it is.  If it helps you, great.  If it
is not for your project, great -- pick the framework or development
environment that works for you.  And if struts is *close but not quite*
what you need, well, that is where these lists and this model of
development shines.  If you rephrased your issue as follows:
I find the example applications are not well-documented.  My project
needs a strong user authentication component, but the examples have bug
X, Y, and Z in them.  With problems in such a simple example, I do not
think Struts can handle a login scheme.  How do people get around X, Y,
Z to implement robust user authentication?
-- you might get a better response.  Armed with a knowledge of which X,
Y, and Z are your problems, people on this list can provide some manner
of help on how to get around these problems.  Sometimes problems arise
because the developer does not understand a particular facet of struts
-- it is complex, and there are points where fuller documentation would
be nice.  (Ooops -- I should be more specific -- maybe next time:) ).
Sometimes it is a genuine problem or bug in the framework, in which case
putting it on this list can bring it directly to the attention of the
coders -- a responsiveness that does not exist elsewhere.  In either
case, a conceptual hurdle or a bug, a *specific*, polite post will often
get you a solution.  Sometimes it will not, but a vague post saying
something stinks *NEVER* will.
the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production
ready,tried and tested.
Yes, if you are a developer, you are expected to put together solutions
that work.  It is, after all, your job.  If shortcomings in the examples
lead you not to trust struts as a foundation, then you can a) use it, in
which case it is also your job to dig past the examples, learn the
underlying concepts, and adapt/fix it to your needs, or b) not use it,
in which case it becomes your job to find something better, or to roll
your own.  You have that choice.
I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple
example
application also doesn't work and needed correcting.
Again, this helps nobody.  What did not work?  If you made specific
corrections, I am sure Ted Husted would appreciate hearing them, and
would gladly put them on his website Errata to help other people with
the same issues.  If you did not make corrections, but just had problems
getting the samples running, post what problems you had, and perhaps
people will help you get it working.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta
functionality. 

Re: Struts is incomplete

2003-08-11 Thread message message
I bet these people starting blocking messages now.



From: Mark Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:16:30 +0100
man.. I think that's savagely out of order..

I doubt the time you have wasted compares to the amount of time such a 
framework saves you. Have a look at some other open source projects, you'll 
soon start to see that struts is well documented and there are plenty of 
examples. Its more than you'll get with most projects.

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:15 AM, message message wrote:

I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time,
and should save you alot of time.
As these people are used to releasing beta versions,
their example applications are wriiten with the mentality
of, it is only a beta it which will change.
Frankly  the example applications stink.
I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production 
ready,tried and tested.
I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple example
application also doesn't work and needed correcting.


From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400
I suggest you use a professional version.
You will save yourself alot of time.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta functionality.
Hyping it up.
Getting  people from the industry to test it free.
Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by selling 
to you
after having had your free feedback.
I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
such luxuries of beta versions.

The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on 
licensing fees)
and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.


From: Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
Struts...and it went quite smoothly
as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is 
concerned,that
was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some  basic thing
which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of 
development...

Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try 
that..

And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: 
giving
examples certainly helps ...



-Original Message-
From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and 
come
back in about a year and let us know how it went.

I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and you
won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how bad 
the
doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the 
developers
on this list who use Struts.

That's just MHO

Jitesh Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers 
which I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to
develop his app
Documentation is even worseone has to do hit and trial to understand
what this tag will do...



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RE: New Bie : org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Cannot retrieve mapping foraction /login

2003-08-09 Thread message message
probably because the error message says login
whilst your config says /Login
your config should say action   path=/login

From: Seshadhri Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Balabaskaran, Kanagasabai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:  New Bie : org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Cannot retrieve 
mapping for action /login
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 11:50:55 +0530

Hi,
This is my first Struts app, I have a login.jsp in which I have declared a
form tag with action as login.do and I have two buttons(a login button and 
a
browse button) on the page.

I have written a form bean and an action class also. While trying to access
login.jsp I get an Internal Server Error. I have appended the
struts-config.xml and the exception that I get.
Kindly help me out.
The following is an extract from struts-config.xml:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1 ?

!DOCTYPE struts-config PUBLIC
 -//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Struts Configuration 1.0//EN
 http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/struts-config_1_0.dtd;
struts-config

  !-- == Form Bean Definitions = --
  form-beans
form-bean  name=LoginForm
type=com.untd.shiftscheduler.beans.LoginForm/
  /form-beans

  !-- == Action Mapping Definitions  --
  action-mappings
action   path=/Login
  type=com.untd.shiftscheduler.scheduler.LoginAction
  name=LoginForm
  input=/Login.jsp
  scope=request
forward name=success path=/jsp3.jsp/
forward name=failure path=/jsp3.jsp/
/action
  /action-mappings

/struts-config

The Stack trace:

org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Cannot retrieve mapping for action 
/login
	at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:2
48)
	at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:289)
	at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:240)
	at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Application
FilterChain.java:247)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterCh
ain.java:193)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.ja
va:243)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
66)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.ja
va:190)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
66)
	at
org.apache.catalina.valves.CertificatesValve.invoke(CertificatesValve.java:2
46)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
64)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2347)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:180
)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
66)
	at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.
java:170)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
64)
	at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:170
)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
64)
	at
org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:468)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
64)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java
:174)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:5
66)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
	at
org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.process(HttpProcessor.java:
1027)
	at
org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.run(HttpProcessor.java:1125
)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536)

Thanks,
Seshadhri Srinivasan
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Re: Apache Tomcat web servers

2003-08-09 Thread message message
Have you considered running tomcat  apache on your machine
and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises.


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Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200
How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And 
is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am 
planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have 
looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz 
CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD  75 Gigs traffic per month.

The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month.

Adam

Philip Seay wrote:
Yan,

Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at
http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll
Regards,
Phil Seay
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers

Hi,

I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding
it very difficult locating a suitable host.
Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache
server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container?  I prefer a UK based
host as this is where I reside.
I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called
'Houxou '.  This is what they have replied:
Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on
our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist
with two competitors on the same machine:
Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP

I am not sure what they mean

Any advice would be gratefully received

yan

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RE: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-07 Thread message message


I have noticed that this list alone has more postings then the
all the Sun mailing postings put together  ?
Why do you think that is the case  ?


From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:11:37 -0400
When I'm in a hurry to get through my inbox, I rely on 2 industry standard
categories/criteria for sorting...
[BEER]
[OTHER]
;)

--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
770-822-3359
AIM:jmitchtx


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 What is the criteria of the list ?


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 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:20:51 -0400
 
 -1
 
 We tried this a long time ago.  Fact is, it would be impossible to
 categorize discussions by any label.  Especially when you consider how
 topics can vary from one area to another or could be a mix of more than 
a
 few that you listed.
 
 Your best bet is to just go through what you can and delete the rest.
 There
 is a massive amount of knowledge transfer being spread among the 
threads
 here (and other lists), so it is up to you to get what you need or save
 what
 you might need in the future.  I have a technique where I save (what I
 consider) important discussions in subfolders within my mail
 client.  That
 makes for quicker searches among relevant messages.
 
 
 --
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 Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
 http://www.struts-atlanta.org
 770-822-3359
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   -Original Message-
   From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]
  
  
   With growing traffic on this mailing list, it has become difficult 
to
   search for mails to read or not to read.
   For better participation in the forum, we can have following norm.
  
   We can have the Subject of mails prefix any of the following
 categories.
   If all agree we could request ASF people to publish these on
 the struts
   site too.
  
   By doing so we can apply message filtering rules to sort the mails 
and
   read/answer those that interest you.
   I hope this would lead to better participation in the forum.
  
   [OT]  -Off Topic
   [FB]  -Form Bean
   [AF]  -Action Form
   [RP]  -Request Processor
   [AS]  -ActionServlet
   [SC]  -Scope Related mails
   [GE]  -General Error
   [DG]  -Design Consideration
   [PR]  -Problem in Struts
   [TL]  -Tiles
   [T-BE] -Bean Tag Library
   [T-HT] -HTML Tag Library
   [T-NS] -Nested Tag Library
   [T-LG] -Logic Tag Library
  
   etc
  
   Shall we start voting for this...!!!
  
   Regards,
   Puneet Agarwal
  
   Tata Consultancy Services,
   C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
   Phone: +91-120-2461001, 2, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13 (Ext. 1031)
   FAX  : +91-120-246 1521
  
   Struts ... Action ... Struts in Action ... Action in Struts ...
  
  
   
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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread message message


I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.
I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.
The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.
Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port 
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they
have the source code.

All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on 
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.



From: Cameron Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent 
opinion
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300

I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
you have on your computer.
For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:

- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
view.
- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.
This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
editing.
Cameron



-Original Message-
From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion
After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click 

select run.
So I did.
The browser started automatically saying The page cannot be displayed.

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
sample
program.
I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.












From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400


WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1


From: Syed, Nazeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Application Design Document
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400

There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation

Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.

Thanks
Nazeer


-Original Message-
From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Struts (E-mail)
Subject: Application Design Document

Hi everyone,

I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our
client
is asking us to provide a design document for the application.

I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and
what
it should include.

I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions
and
their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?

By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
appreciate any individual experiences.

Thanks,
Tarek M. Nabil

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Re: [OT] - [TOPIC] - [VOTE]

2003-08-06 Thread message message
Also I think it is owned by one family known as the TATA of India.

I think I know the history of this company  or I could be thinking of 
another one.
There used to be car called Morris Minor built by British Leyland.
When Leyland stopped building it so the car became obsolete.
TATA  bought the equipment/plant  machinery from British Leyland.
They then started building the Morris minor in India.

You can still buy a new morris Minor in India.

There is currently an advert on TV about the Renault Clio where
the guy gets an elephant to sit on the car to shape like a Renault Clio.

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:30:43 +0800
It's quite a big company in India.

message message wrote:

I think it is originally Car company like General Motors
or should I say Skoda.
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Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:29:46 -0400
Isn't Tata Consultancy Services an odd name for an IT biz. It sounds 
like a cosmetic surgeon's office or something.

BAL

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:37:44 +0530
Regards,
Puneet Agarwal
Tata Consultancy Services,
C-56, Phase - II, NOIDA 201305 (India)
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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread message message
The diagram you have pointed is generated from the struts-config.xml file.
To edit the Action servlet (shown as .do ) you can point and click.
You can also point  click for JSPs  html.
Although the diagram doesn't show the form-beans.

From: Mike Jasnowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent 
opinion
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:01:09 -0400

Here's another Eclipse based Struts diagram tool.  I haven't used it, I
don't know if it just renders the config, or if it is interactive and
enables you to edit the config thru the diagram.
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/images/plug-i
n.gif
-Original Message-
From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion


I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.
I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.
The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.
Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they
have the source code.
All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.


From: Cameron Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300

I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
you have on your computer.

For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:

- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
view.
- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.

This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
editing.

Cameron



-Original Message-
From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion


After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.

I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click 

select run.
So I did.

The browser started automatically saying The page cannot be displayed.

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
sample
program.

I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.













 From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Application Design Document
 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
 
 
 WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
 Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
 
 
 From: Syed, Nazeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Application Design Document
 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
 
 There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
 
 Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
 
 Thanks
 Nazeer
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
 To: Struts (E-mail)
 Subject: Application Design Document
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our
client
 is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
 
 I was wondering, if among the struts

RE: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic)

2003-08-05 Thread message message

I have one on my desk, and have perused the Amazon comments.
The comments on Amazon.com are only worth reading when
it is not public knowledge.
For instance if you go http://www.middleware-company.com for 
recommendations,
The comments you find there are written by vendors posing as independent 
developers.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, 
Weblogic)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:44:57 -0700

I think Linus' requirements are wrong.
Books on J2EE patterns in general, and Core J2EE Patterns in particular,
are not worth reading.
Change the requirement to books that provide useful patterns for J2EE
applications, and you get the answer you want, which is Fowler's Patterns
of Enterprise Application Archectecture.
Unit testing in Java sounds interesting.

I too am in search of a WebLogic book.
I have one on my desk, and have perused the Amazon comments.
I plan to visit a bookshop later this week and buy one.
I will try to post a review view once I have read one.
Brendan



-Original Message-
From: Laurent PETIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:06 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB,
Weblogic)
Hello,

I'm looking for a good book related to the Test first driven development
area.
I browsed the amazon customer reviews for the classical books on the 
subject
(Kent Beck, ...) but was still afraid of something : are this book really
connected to reality when you have to deal with real projects (what I 
mean
here by real project could be : a web version of an enterprise application
to deal with its products, employees, commercials, ..., not just a project
to build an Euro converter or a bowling scorer (*), ... which does'nt 
really
speak to me and prove to me that those techniques may scale well and prove
benefits in my area of concern).

I found one book that seems REALLY interesting on the subject :
Unit testing in Java, by Johannes Link and Peter Frohlich.
It seems to address topic as testing in web apps, with databases involved,
asynchronous processes (do you know a recent application which doesn't have
to send or receive emails in its requirements ? ...)
But there are only 3 reviews on the book, the book itself is very young
(April 2003), so I wonder if you folks in this mailing list have read it,
and maybe may give us some other point of view ??
Thanks in advance,

--
Laurent
(*) : In fact, I really enjoyed the reading of the paper on the bowling
scorer pair programming and TDD I found on the objectmentor website, but
after reading it, one question still occurs to me : well, ok, but what in
real projects, and with real programmers that aren't senior consultants 
of
a brilliant society ?





Linus Nikander [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thank you for the reply. But I'm looking for books, not online articles 
or
 documentation. I know I can probably find book recommendations at the
sites
 you point to, but I was trying to save myself the effort of searching 
for
 them and of evaluating their recommendations by posting to this group
 instead.

 //Linus Nikander

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  J2EE PATTERNS -  www.JAVA.SUN.COM
  Struts - struts in action.
  JUNIT - Eclipse  - free IDE comes with documenttion on JUNIT
 /www.junit.org
  EJB - www.JAVA.SUN.COM
  Weblogic - Weblogic saleman.
 
 
  From: Linus Nikander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB,
  Weblogic)
  Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:24:17 +0200
  
  Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure
takes
 a
  lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of
  java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup
 probably
  have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask 
for
  recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on
  any/all
  of the following subjects:
  
  J2EE Patterns
  Struts
  JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most 
widely
  accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though)
  EJB (more interested in performance tuning, best practices etc, not 
EJB
 as
  a
  technology)
  Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs
and
  enterprise solutions)
  
  All recommendations appreciated.
  
  //Linus Nikander - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic)

2003-08-04 Thread message message


J2EE PATTERNS -  www.JAVA.SUN.COM
Struts - struts in action.
JUNIT - Eclipse  - free IDE comes with documenttion on JUNIT /www.junit.org
EJB - www.JAVA.SUN.COM
Weblogic - Weblogic saleman.

From: Linus Nikander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, 
Weblogic)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:24:17 +0200

Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure takes a
lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of
java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup probably
have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask for
recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on 
any/all
of the following subjects:

J2EE Patterns
Struts
JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most widely
accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though)
EJB (more interested in performance tuning, best practices etc, not EJB as 
a
technology)
Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs and
enterprise solutions)

All recommendations appreciated.

//Linus Nikander - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic)

2003-08-04 Thread message message


Struts in Action is a book.
Good luck with your specific requirements.
From: Linus Nikander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, 
Weblogic)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:44:07 +0200

Thank you for the reply. But I'm looking for books, not online articles or
documentation. I know I can probably find book recommendations at the sites
you point to, but I was trying to save myself the effort of searching for
them and of evaluating their recommendations by posting to this group
instead.
//Linus Nikander

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 J2EE PATTERNS -  www.JAVA.SUN.COM
 Struts - struts in action.
 JUNIT - Eclipse  - free IDE comes with documenttion on JUNIT
/www.junit.org
 EJB - www.JAVA.SUN.COM
 Weblogic - Weblogic saleman.


 From: Linus Nikander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB,
 Weblogic)
 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:24:17 +0200
 
 Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure 
takes
a
 lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of
 java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup
probably
 have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask for
 recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on
 any/all
 of the following subjects:
 
 J2EE Patterns
 Struts
 JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most widely
 accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though)
 EJB (more interested in performance tuning, best practices etc, not EJB
as
 a
 technology)
 Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs 
and
 enterprise solutions)
 
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RE: using html:file and commons-fileupload

2003-08-04 Thread message message
Here is a copy of the code from the struts-upload example (upload.jsp)
html:form action=upload.do?queryParam=Successful 
enctype=multipart/form-data
It works with out any errors.

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Subject: RE: using html:file and commons-fileupload
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:15:14 +0200
I use commons-fileupload-1.0.jar

here the html:code

html:form action=/core/contact/imageSelect method=POST
enctype=multipart/form-data
html:file property=file/
html:submitsubmit/html:submit
/html:form
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 From: Alen Ribic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:09 PM
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 Subject: Re: using html:file and commons-fileupload


 Of top of my head:
 Are you using a version of upload commons  that came with Struts or...?

 Also, you got some code snippet/ for clues?

 --Alen


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 Subject: RE: using html:file and commons-fileupload


  Hi,
  changing the type to FormFile didn't solve the problem. Any other 
ideas?
 
 
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   Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:28 PM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: using html:file and commons-fileupload
  
  
  
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   From: Filip Polsakiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Struts Users Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:24 PM
   Subject: using html:file and commons-fileupload
  
  
Hi,
i have the following problem. I use a html:file element to
   choose a file
and want it to be uploaded using commons-fileupload.
When i submit my form i get the following exception:
   
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUpload.setSizeMax(I)V
   
my code looks something like
   
html:form action=/myactions/blabla method=post
enctype=multipart/form-data
html:file property=myFile/
/html:form
   
  
By the way: which datatype does the property have to be of?
  
   As far as I can remember it should be of type:
   org.apache.struts.upload.FormFile.
  
My Action is not even called - the exception comes before the
   excute-Method
is called
   
Help please.
   
Filip
   
   
   
   
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Re: Display vector with htmltable?

2003-08-04 Thread message message


http://struts.application-servers.com/example.html

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Subject: Display vector with htmltable?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:49:53 +0800
Is it possible to display a vector containing a list of other objects in
the request object using htmltable?  I have tried reading the examples
in the v0.4 RC-1, but it is just far too complex for a newbie to follow.
Please kindly point me to a place where there are examples in using
vector, or even better, give me an example of the configuration files,
and may be some code?
Thanks

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Re: Call methods from JSTL

2003-08-03 Thread message message
You may want to have a look at this page.
http://developer.novell.com/tech/1126.html.
It shows, using struts, on how to retrieve and display data from a database.

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Subject: Call methods from JSTL
Date: Sun,  3 Aug 2003 08:06:01 +0200
hi list,
I don't manage to use methods from my classes with JSTL.
This is normal Java code:
BuchKatalog bk = new BuchKatalog();
java.util.Iterator i = bk.getBuecher();
How can I achieve the same with JSTL?  (tons of examples to
continue afterwards, but none to this point .-()
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Re: [Problem]

2003-08-03 Thread message message
the example code comes from the struts-logon application
available from the struts website.
for session information you should use

Httpsession class for getting and setting session information.
i.e.
HttpSession session = request.getSession();
session.setAttribute(Constants.USER_KEY, form);
 HttpSession session = request.getSession();
 LogonForm user = (LogonForm) session.getAttribute(Constants.USER_KEY);
also you have a typo in your struts-config.xml
scoope=request
should read
scope=request
this line is probably ignored from your struts-config.xml

From: Naohiro Kuroda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Problem] Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:53:57 +0900
Dir sir,

I'm developing Web Application for Schedule Management in the company by
Struts-1.1 now.
The contents are re-displayed after registering user information.
But, if a new browser is opend, it will not those with a problem.
I think that session information remains, but i don't know how it should
solve. please help me.
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-- Development environment --
-
OS  : Windows XP pro sp1
IDE : Eclipse2.1
JAVA: J2SDK 1.4.2
WEB-APP : Tomcat 4.1.24
Struts  : jakarta-struts-1.1
Torque  : torque-3.0
-
-- struts-config.xml (Extract) --
-
action path=/systemUserAdd
type=jp.co.eishindenki.admin.user.SystemUserAddInitAction
scope=request
forward
name=success
path=/page/systemUserAdd.jsp/
/action
action
path=/userAdd
type=jp.co.eishindenki.admin.user.UserAddAction
name=userAddForm
scoope=request
input=systemUserAdd
forward
name=success
redirect=true
path=/systemUserAdmin.do/
/action
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-- SystemUserAddInitAction --
-
package --- omitted
import --- omitted
public class SystemUserAddInitAction extends Action {

public ActionForward execute(
ActionMapping mapping,
ActionForm form,
HttpServletRequest req,
HttpServletResponse res)
throws Exception {
ServletContext context = getServlet().getServletContext();

if (context.getAttribute(jp.co.eishindenki.admin.user.groupList)
!= null) {
  
context.removeAttribute(jp.co.eishindenki.admin.user.groupList);
}

Criteria crit = new Criteria();
crit.addAscendingOrderByColumn(GroupInfoPeer.GROUP_ID);
LinkedList groupList = new
LinkedList(GroupInfoPeer.doSelect(crit));
context.setAttribute(jp.co.eishindenki.admin.user.groupList,
groupList);
return mapping.findForward(success);
}
}
-
-- UserAddAction 
-
package --- omitted
import --- omitted
public class UserAddAction extends Action {

public ActionForward execute(
ActionMapping mapping,
ActionForm form,
HttpServletRequest req,
HttpServletResponse res)
throws Exception {
UserAddForm addForm = (UserAddForm) form;

UserInfo user = new UserInfo();
user.setUserName(addForm.getUserName());
user.setUserFurigana(addForm.getUserFurigana());
user.setLogonName(addForm.getLogonName());
user.setMailAddress(addForm.getMailAddress());
user.setTelNumber(addForm.getTelNumber());
user.setChargeIdOfQs(addForm.getChargeIdOfQs());
user.setExtNumber(addForm.getExtNumber());
user.setUrlAddress(addForm.getUrlAddress());
user.setAddress(addForm.getAddress());
user.setZipCode(addForm.getZipCode());
user.setPassword(addForm.getPassword());
user.setInitiationDate(addForm.getInitiationDate());
user.setMainGroup(addForm.getMainGroup());
user.save();
return mapping.findForward(success);
}
}
-
-- UserAddAction 
-
package --- omitted
import --- omitted
public class UserAddForm extends ValidatorForm {

private String userName;
private String userFurigana;
private String logonName;
private String mailAddress;
private String telNumber;
private String ChargeIdOfQs;

Resultsets with struts 1.1

2003-08-02 Thread message message
I am looking for an example showing the use of resultsets
preferably with struts 1.1.
thanks.

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Re: Resultsets with struts 1.1 IGNORE

2003-08-02 Thread message message
Sorry , I found what I wanted!!!

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I am looking for an example showing the use of resultsets
preferably with struts 1.1.
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Re: unsubcribe

2003-08-02 Thread message message


Are you telling me to unsubcribe ?

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Sorry , I found what I wanted!!!

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RE: [Friday] TV Commercial 2

2003-08-01 Thread message message
That is not the end of the story there is part 2 which goes something like 
this ...

Vinod Khanna, has a software house in Banglore,
heard about the boss's cost cutting excercise.
He approached the boss and said I hear you are interested in cutting costs
and you want the developers to do it.
Vinod Khanna told the Big G , I will use what ever tool you want me to use
.Net or Struts ot the beez kneezs and I'll be cheaper than Jim.
Six months later Jim was travelling on the train he heard a voice saying
Tickets please !!!
When Jim looked around, it was his ex-Boss saying Tickets please 
So Jim asked his ex-boss former Software house  IT Director about his 
predicament.
His ex-boss replied , you may remember Vinod Khanna who  replaced you.
Jim replied Yes.
Well Vinod Khanna approached my client and my client didn't need me anymore.

The ex-boss asked - do you have ticket because I can't let you travel with 
out ticket!!!
I will lose this job if I let you travel with out a ticket.
Jim replied  you know me , I never travel with out a ticket!!.

The boss went on his merry way  singing his song Tickets please ! Tickets 
please !



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Subject: RE: [Friday] TV Commercial 2
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:20:28 -0400
Hahahaha, that's a good one.

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:06 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [Friday] TV Commercial 2
[Four years later, Jim is now the Struts team lead in a
corporate IT shop. If you haven't heard of this one, continue. I will
try to make it flawless ... although it is still a pre-release.]
The dot com bubbles were easy-come-easy-go. There are only
two teams left in the IT shop, Jim's Struts team and .NET team.
When both teams were scheduling their training in another city
for new projects, they were told from the boss of bosses that
whoever reduces IT costs more will be the winner.
The .NET team booked their airline tickets to the city before they
heard of a super discount train ticket that Jim's team was considering.
The .NET team canceled their airline tickets and arrived at the
train station earlier.
When they saw Jim on the train, they started to laugh at the Struts
team. Because Jim got only one ticket for his whole team.
The conductor is coming! One of the Struts team members
looked out of the window and said. Jim's team went into one
of the rest rooms in the train. The conductor got on the train.
When he passed by the rest room, he knocked on the door.
Ticket please?

A ticket was slid out under the door. The .NET team looked
very serious after both teams arrived at the city. When they finished
the training, the .NET team got only one ticket to back. But they
started to laugh at the Struts team again when they saw Jim
on the train.
Jim's team had no ticket at all. This time, one of the Struts team
members looked out of the window and said
The conductor is coming! Jim's team went into one of the rest
rooms in the train. The .NET team went into the other rest room.
Before the conductor got on the train, Jim quietly walked out
the rest room and knocked on the door of the other rest room.
Ticket please?

*
The last screen of the TV Commercial shows
 Get bothered by your copy-cat? Find Jim, the Struts team lead.
*
Jing
Netspread Carrier
http://www.netspread.com
[After Jim came back, he saw the .NET team is releasing its own MVC
 model and is using a desktop IDE claimed richer in functionality. But
 he knows they are busily and expertly missing the point again.
 Because Jim is playing the Internet IDE and considering to empower
 every employee to build SLWS (Super Large Web Services). If you
 are in Jim's position, take a look at the 24 tips on Wheels and Struts.]
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3

2003-07-29 Thread message message
f you use the struts console on struts-logon example.
You will find it doesn't recognise the write attribute.
This line
   forward   name=success  path=/index.jsp 
rewrite=true/


From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
Struts Console version 4.0.3 is now available.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

Download Now: http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.zip
  -- OR -- http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.tar.gz
Struts Console is FREE software.

This release, along with the past 2 releases, is primarily a bug fix 
release.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.3

  *) Fixed plugin descriptors that were accidentally broken in 4.0.2.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.2

  *) Fixed bug where using Pretty Ouput was not escaping entity
 references inside of tags' content.
  *) Updated console.bat and console.sh startup scripts to no longer
 reference JDOM jar file.
  *) Added org.apache.struts.upload.FormFile to Form Property Type
 field dropdown.
Changes with Struts Console v4.0.1

  *) Fixed Eclipse/WSAD plugin descriptor.

  *) Added ability to create new JSP Tag Library files in standalone
 version.
Thanks,

-james
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3

2003-07-29 Thread message message
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:09:23 +0400
f you use the struts console on struts-logon example.
You will find it doesn't recognise the write attribute.
This line
   forward   name=success  path=/index.jsp 
rewrite=true/


From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
Struts Console version 4.0.3 is now available.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

Download Now: http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.zip
  -- OR -- http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.tar.gz
Struts Console is FREE software.

This release, along with the past 2 releases, is primarily a bug fix 
release.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.3

  *) Fixed plugin descriptors that were accidentally broken in 4.0.2.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.2

  *) Fixed bug where using Pretty Ouput was not escaping entity
 references inside of tags' content.
  *) Updated console.bat and console.sh startup scripts to no longer
 reference JDOM jar file.
  *) Added org.apache.struts.upload.FormFile to Form Property Type
 field dropdown.
Changes with Struts Console v4.0.1

  *) Fixed Eclipse/WSAD plugin descriptor.

  *) Added ability to create new JSP Tag Library files in standalone
 version.
Thanks,

-james
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http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/


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example Templates for presentation layer

2003-07-29 Thread message message
I am looking for templates for the presentation layer.
templates consisting of
A header  with tabs,
footer,
side bar
and body.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3

2003-07-29 Thread message message
I installed this latest version with Eclipse v2.1 but I think it's 
irrelevant,
but I thought I mention it anyway , Justin Case told me to mention it :)
After fas as I can see the plug-in is write once Run anywhere


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f you use the struts console on struts-logon example.
You will find it doesn't recognise the write attribute.
This line
   forward   name=success  path=/index.jsp 
rewrite=true/


From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
Struts Console version 4.0.3 is now available.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

Download Now: http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.zip
  -- OR -- http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.tar.gz
Struts Console is FREE software.

This release, along with the past 2 releases, is primarily a bug fix 
release.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.3

  *) Fixed plugin descriptors that were accidentally broken in 4.0.2.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.2

  *) Fixed bug where using Pretty Ouput was not escaping entity
 references inside of tags' content.
  *) Updated console.bat and console.sh startup scripts to no longer
 reference JDOM jar file.
  *) Added org.apache.struts.upload.FormFile to Form Property Type
 field dropdown.
Changes with Struts Console v4.0.1

  *) Fixed Eclipse/WSAD plugin descriptor.

  *) Added ability to create new JSP Tag Library files in standalone
 version.
Thanks,

-james
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Re: example Templates for presentation layer

2003-07-29 Thread message message
Are you saying my requirement is in the example application.
There is a possibility of more which are not in the example application.
Which example application are you thinking of  ?


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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:17:28 -0500
And I'm looking for source code and purple.

Perhaps you'll find it if you dig through the example applications.

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I am looking for templates for the presentation layer.
templates consisting of
A header  with tabs,
footer,
side bar
and body.
Thanks.

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Re: example Templates for presentation layer

2003-07-29 Thread message message
Ok - if you visit this page http://xml.apache.org/forrest/

You can see a header with the Apache logon and the forest logo.
A side bar with a content list. It is has three tabs.
When you select one of the options listed in the content the pertaining text 
appears
in the body.

I am looking for a template presentation layer so that
I would only change the particulars.



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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:27:52 -0500
I'm saying you're being vague.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:24:02 +0400
Are you saying my requirement is in the example application.
There is a possibility of more which are not in the example application.
Which example application are you thinking of  ?


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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:17:28 -0500
And I'm looking for source code and purple.

Perhaps you'll find it if you dig through the example applications.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:15:27 +0400
I am looking for templates for the presentation layer.
templates consisting of
A header  with tabs,
footer,
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and body.
Thanks.

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RE: example Templates for presentation layer

2003-07-29 Thread message message
You're right, I need to  integrate Tiles
to get the effect I want for my application.

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Subject: RE: example Templates for presentation layer
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:40:59 -0400
Most of the examples show a presentation layer. I used the struts-tiles
example and found it very helpful.
Glenn

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I'm saying you're being vague.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:24:02 +0400
Are you saying my requirement is in the example application.
There is a possibility of more which are not in the example application.
Which example application are you thinking of  ?

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Subject: Re: example Templates for presentation layer
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:17:28 -0500

And I'm looking for source code and purple.

Perhaps you'll find it if you dig through the example applications.


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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:15:27 +0400


I am looking for templates for the presentation layer.
templates consisting of

A header  with tabs,
footer,
side bar
and body.

Thanks.

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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3

2003-07-29 Thread message message
I have taken out the rewrite attribute and replaced it with  redirect=true.
It doesn't seem to  have had any impact on the application behaviour.
the struts-logon.war with struts-config.xml file is probably incorrect.
I have also checked the supported attributes for the forward element
in the book I am using. The rewrite attribute is not included.




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Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:33:18 -0400
Struts' forward element does not have a rewrite attribute.  It has a
redirect attribute and Struts Console does support that attribute.
Perhaps your config file is corrupt.

-James
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
f you use the struts console on struts-logon example.
You will find it doesn't recognise the write attribute.
This line
forward   name=success  path=/index.jsp
rewrite=true/
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v4.0.3
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT)

Struts Console version 4.0.3 is now available.

http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/

Download Now:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.zip
   -- OR --
http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/struts-console-4.0.3.tar.gz

Struts Console is FREE software.

This release, along with the past 2 releases, is primarily a bug fix
release.

Changes with Struts Console v4.0.3

   *) Fixed plugin descriptors that were accidentally broken in 4.0.2.


Changes with Struts Console v4.0.2

   *) Fixed bug where using Pretty Ouput was not escaping entity
  references inside of tags' content.

   *) Updated console.bat and console.sh startup scripts to no longer
  reference JDOM jar file.

   *) Added org.apache.struts.upload.FormFile to Form Property Type
  field dropdown.


Changes with Struts Console v4.0.1

   *) Fixed Eclipse/WSAD plugin descriptor.

   *) Added ability to create new JSP Tag Library files in standalone
  version.

Thanks,

-james
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Re: Struts Action in Welcome File List

2003-07-29 Thread message message


Actually this blank page phenomenon happend to me
a long time ago.
I remember taking out the line content type.
That was the only change I made and it worked.

From: Jon Wynacht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts Action in Welcome File List
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:21:25 -0700
Didn't work for me. I'm stumped ;-(

Jon

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 09:55  PM, Dan Tran wrote:

This works for me

%@ page language=java contentType=text/html;charset=utf-8 %
%
response.sendRedirect(./PMTAction.do);
%
-D
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From: Jon Wynacht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Struts Action in Welcome File List

Hmmm...tried that but still blanks out after a while...I'm wondering  if
there's an issue with my use of sessions...would that come into play
here?
Jon

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 06:56  PM, John Cavacas wrote:

Try,

logic:redirect forward=HOME/

In your index.jsp page. Also, look at sruts-blank.war example
application
for an easy to understand example of this.
John

-Original Message-
From: Jon Wynacht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:41 PM
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Subject: Struts Action in Welcome File List
Hi,

I've been using Struts now for some time and enjoy it immensely!
However, I've recently run into a problem that has me perplexed.
Usually I can figure these things out and not bother the mail lists
but
this one requires your help ;-)
I've pulled some info from the Programming Jakarta Struts book by
Chuck Cavaness on how to use a Struts action in the welcome file  list
of a web.xml file.
Based on the instructions in the book I have the following welcome
file
entry in my web.xml:
welcome-file-list
welcome-fileindex.jsp/welcome-file
  /welcome-file-list
and the following code in my index.jsp:

%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-logic.tld prefix=logic %

html
   body
 logic:forward name=HOME/
   /body
/html
and the following entry in my struts-config.xml file:

global-forwards forward name=HOME path=PMTAction.do
redirect=false //global-forwards
So, when I first fire up Tomcat everything forwards fine but after a
while, if I hit the following URL:
http://localhost:8080/pmt/index.jsp

I get a blank page. No forwarding. Nothing. I've tried every combo
possible here, including using logic:redirect/ but eventually it
stops forwarding.
Am I doing something subtly wrong or drastically wrong here?

Thanks in advance,

Jon

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Struts console plug-in - Bug - rewrite attribute

2003-07-28 Thread message message
To whom it my concern,

I was using the Struts console plug-in Eclipse with the Struts-logon 
application.

the console gives the error message

 Invalid struts config File
   error on line 44:Attribute rewrite is not declared for element 
forward.
  Validate that the file's DOCTYPE is supported by Struts Console. 

The error message referring to the line below in the struts-config.xml file.
 forward   name=success  path=/index.jsp rewrite=true/
I think the attribute rewrite  has not been implemented yet.

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Re: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found

2003-07-28 Thread message message
Since readiing your email I deployed the banking.war file from
http://examples.oreilly.com/jakarta/
I get a login page saying enter
Access Number  ---
Pin Number  
Perhaps you should try that war file



From: Vinayak Birari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:08:08 +0530
hi all,
   I am new to Struts, I have downloaded sample banking application
oreilly site.(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jakarta/banking-dev.zip)
I have unzipped the entire code in webapps\ROOT directory if
 I m getting following error
 org.apache.jasper.JasperException: File
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
I have kept all the .tld file in WEB-INF folder
in web.xml i have made the entry and given the path as
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld
i wanted to know is it necessary to make its entry anywhere else.
thanks in advance.
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Re: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found

2003-07-28 Thread message message
OK.

I decompiled the code to find the out the access number  pin number.
here is the code.
if(123.equals(s)  456.equals(s1))

From: Vinayak Birari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:43:28 +0530
Hi,
I have tried deploying war file its workin fine. since i am interested
in developing a appl. i tried to install by unzipping and manual
configuration.
Thanks,
Vinayak.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 02:48PM 
Since readiing your email I deployed the banking.war file from
http://examples.oreilly.com/jakarta/
I get a login page saying enter
Access Number  ---
Pin Number  
Perhaps you should try that war file


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Subject: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:08:08 +0530

hi all,
I am new to Struts, I have downloaded sample banking application
oreilly site.(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jakarta/banking-dev.zip)
I have unzipped the entire code in webapps\ROOT directory if
  I m getting following error
  org.apache.jasper.JasperException: File
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found

I have kept all the .tld file in WEB-INF folder
in web.xml i have made the entry and given the path as
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld
i wanted to know is it necessary to make its entry anywhere else.

thanks in advance.
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Re: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found

2003-07-28 Thread message message
You probably need to reload your application after having made
the entry in the web.xml file.

From: Vinayak Birari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: File /WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:08:08 +0530
hi all,
   I am new to Struts, I have downloaded sample banking application
oreilly site.(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jakarta/banking-dev.zip)
I have unzipped the entire code in webapps\ROOT directory if
 I m getting following error
 org.apache.jasper.JasperException: File
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld not found
I have kept all the .tld file in WEB-INF folder
in web.xml i have made the entry and given the path as
/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld
i wanted to know is it necessary to make its entry anywhere else.
thanks in advance.
Vinayak.
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Re: Reasons to move to Struts 1.1

2003-07-28 Thread message message


There is a book by Ted husted and a few other others called struts in 
action.
Page 54 - 57  has a number of tables with various points.
The  tables are  called
Struts 1.0 weaknesses addressed by Sruts 1.1
Struts 1.1 weaknesses
Struts's Strengths.


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Subject: Reasons to move to Struts 1.1
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:30:51 -0700
Dear all,

We have using Struts 1.0.2 for about last couple of years.

Now that Struts 1.1 is out. Are there any reasons for us to start thinking
moving to 1.1?
Any help or pointer to help will be greatly appreicated.

Regards,

ATTA



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RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec

2003-07-28 Thread message message
Here is a copy of an email which you should find more informative and clear.

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, objectworlds wrote:


Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:51:01 +0100
From: objectworlds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts - j2ee compliant
To use struts framework does the server have to be J2EE compliant ?



To use Struts your container has to implement the Servlet 2.2
Specification (which is part of J2EE 1.2) or later.  If you're using JSP
pages, your container must also support JSP 1.1 (also part of J2EE 1.2) or
later.
Any J2EE 1.2 or later container will therefore support Struts.  However,
Struts itself does not require any J2EE capabilities other than Servlet or
JSP.

if so  is that the case  for model 1  model 2 ?



Model 1 and Model 2 have nothing to do with J2EE compliant or not.  They
describe architectural approaches to building web applications, and appy
no matter what technology you are using.

Is tomcat always J2EE compliant ?


Tomcat implements the Servlet and JSP specs, but is not a complete J2EE
container.  The first digit of the Tomcat version number tells you which
versions:
* Tomcat 3.x -- Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1
* Tomcat 4.x -- Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2
* Tomcat 5.x -- Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0
As you can see from the above description, though, Tomcat can be used to
execute Struts based appications.
Craig


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Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:15:01 -0600
You can still use Tomcat.  Servlets have always been part of the J2EE spec.
You can still use Tomcat.  I have deployed Servlet 2.4/JSP 2.0 apps in
Tomcat 5.0.4 successfully.
HTH,

Matt

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From: Vijay Balakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:53 AM
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Subject: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec


Hi,

I just attended a conference this weekend.A speaker mentioned that with the
Servlet 2.4 spec, Servlets are being tied to the J2EE environment.I would
like to know in what way ? Also,does this mean that we can't use Tomcat
anymore ??
Thanks,
Vijay
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expert group

2003-07-27 Thread message message
I was informed that the expert group can be found at Struts.

Does that mean that as long I use struts Framework I will always be
using a framework which is compliant to the various web standards.
Does that also mean that  J2EE architects are not experts but a bunch of 
lame
Sun Microsystems Salesman ?

I just wondering.

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Re: expert group

2003-07-27 Thread message message
Yes thank you and I will keep my opinions to myself.
The only reason I am here is because I was visiting
www.amazon.com whilst looking for some books.
Somebody wrote although JSP PRO has loads of
typos it is very good book.
I think the reason that person wrote the reviews was because it opens
this new world of open source software.
Free ware which allows one to setup non -static websites.
All you need is motivation to learn.
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:20:17 -0400
There are many talented and helpful people on this list.  There are also
some who spew false rumors and outrageous predictions.
You are free to form your own opinion(s), and I encourage you to do so.

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Subject: expert group

 I was informed that the expert group can be found at Struts.

 Does that mean that as long I use struts Framework I will always be
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 Does that also mean that  J2EE architects are not experts but a bunch of
 lame
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 I just wondering.

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Re: expert group

2003-07-27 Thread message message
P.S. I did  buy the book as a result of the reviews.


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Subject: Re: expert group
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:33:20 +0400
Yes thank you and I will keep my opinions to myself.
The only reason I am here is because I was visiting
www.amazon.com whilst looking for some books.
Somebody wrote although JSP PRO has loads of
typos it is very good book.
I think the reason that person wrote the reviews was because it opens
this new world of open source software.
Free ware which allows one to setup non -static websites.
All you need is motivation to learn.
From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: expert group
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:20:17 -0400
There are many talented and helpful people on this list.  There are also
some who spew false rumors and outrageous predictions.
You are free to form your own opinion(s), and I encourage you to do so.

--
James Mitchell
Software Developer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
678-910-8017
AIM:jmitchtx
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Subject: expert group

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 Does that also mean that  J2EE architects are not experts but a bunch 
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