BSS Bulletin - December

[Bill Visick]

Dear All,

The December issue of the BSS Bulletin has just been dispatched - members 
should expect to receive their copies soon. In the event of non-delivery please 
contact the Membership Secretary, Jackie Jones, members...@sundialsoc.org.uk - 
but please allow a month for delivery, particularly for overseas members and in 
the run-up to Christmas. As usual, the contents list, together with one article 
for free download, is available on our website at www.sundialsoc.org.uk.

Regards
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BSS Bulletin - September

[John Davis]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,

The September issue of the BSS Bulletin was recently dispatched - members 
should expect to receive their copies soon (if not already!). As usual, the 
Contents List, together with one article for free download, is on our website 
at www.sundialsoc.org.uk.

Regards,

John
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Re: Silver Jubilee edition, BSS Bulletin

[Frank King]

Dear John,

I am delighted to hear that you
enjoyed the Jubilee Edition of
the BSS Bulletin.  There have
been many enthusiastic comments.

Your congratulations to the
"authors" and "editors" are much
appreciated but the main reason
for the elegance and high quality
of the Bulletins is down to THE
Editor (singular), John Davis, to
whom the BSS owes a considerable
debt of gratitude. 

I hope you will continue to read
many John Davis Edited Bulletins
in future.

I am assured that the September
Bulletin will be back to its
normal Yellow Livery!

Frank

Frank King
Chairman
British Sundial Society


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Silver Jubilee edition, BSS Bulletin

[John Pickard]

Good morning all,

Thanks to the miracles of snail mail, my copy of the Jubilee Edition of the BSS 
Bulleting landed in my mail box.

Congratulations to the authors for the great articles, and the editors for a 
great job of putting it all together. John Carmichael's dial is truly worthy of 
the cover, but it's invidious to ignore the other modern dials shown in the 
various articles. And the detail of engraving in early dials. 

Sundials may be well-and-truly dead technology, but they live and thrive in the 
21st century. Somehow I doubt if iPads etc. will last as long!

Many thanks to all concerned,

John

John Pickard

In sunny (but crispy cold) Sydney, a week or so after the winter solstice, and 
dreaming of summer!

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BSS Bulletin for June

[John Davis]

Dear Dialling colleagues,

The June issue of the BSS Bulletin, a special edition for our silver jubilee, 
was dispatched yesterday. Members should expect it in a day or so (rather more 
if long distances are involved!).

As usual, the Contents List and a sample article for download can be found at 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php

Regards,

John
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AW: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Reinhold Kriegler]

Good Lord!


 
* ** ***  * ** ***
 
Reinhold R. Kriegler
 
Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST
+2)   www.ta-dip.de
 
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18
 
http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html
http://www.ta-dip.de/salon-der-astronomen/musik-im-salon-der-astronomen.
html
 
 
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] Im Auftrag von Dennis
Cowan
Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Mai 2014 21:35
An: Frank King
Cc: Sundial
Betreff: Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin 
 
Dear Frank
 
I can indeed confirm that the clock was stopped at 12.  I took the photo
at 
09.55am.  The church on which the clock is mounted had recently been
sold 
and I expect that the new owners has not yet appointed a "Keeper of the 
Clock"!
 
Regards
 
Dennis
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank King" 
To: "Dennis Cowan" 
Cc: "Frank Evans" ; "Sundial" 
; 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin
 
 
> Dear Dennis,
>
> You note:
>
>> It also showed the photo in fig 5 of
>> the article.
>
> Indeed so, and they drew attention to
> the clock on the building behind the
> empty pedestal, adding words to the
> effect that:
>
>  Even with the sundial missing
>  experts can still tell the time.
>
> Maybe but, I suspect, not with that
> clock.  It looks as though it has
> been stopped at 12.
>
> Perhaps you can confirm one way or
> another!
>
> Kirkbean is clearly a challenging
> place to tell the time unless you
> bring along your own equipment!
>
> Frank
> 
 
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AW: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Reinhold Kriegler]

Good Lord!


 
* ** ***  * ** ***
 
Reinhold R. Kriegler
 
Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST
+2)   www.ta-dip.de
 
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18
 
http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html
http://www.ta-dip.de/salon-der-astronomen/musik-im-salon-der-astronomen.
html
 
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] Im Auftrag von Dennis
Cowan
Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Mai 2014 21:35
An: Frank King
Cc: Sundial
Betreff: Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin 
 
Dear Frank
 
I can indeed confirm that the clock was stopped at 12.  I took the photo
at 
09.55am.  The church on which the clock is mounted had recently been
sold 
and I expect that the new owners has not yet appointed a "Keeper of the 
Clock"!
 
Regards
 
Dennis
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank King" 
To: "Dennis Cowan" 
Cc: "Frank Evans" ; "Sundial" 
; 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin
 
 
> Dear Dennis,
>
> You note:
>
>> It also showed the photo in fig 5 of
>> the article.
>
> Indeed so, and they drew attention to
> the clock on the building behind the
> empty pedestal, adding words to the
> effect that:
>
>  Even with the sundial missing
>  experts can still tell the time.
>
> Maybe but, I suspect, not with that
> clock.  It looks as though it has
> been stopped at 12.
>
> Perhaps you can confirm one way or
> another!
>
> Kirkbean is clearly a challenging
> place to tell the time unless you
> bring along your own equipment!
>
> Frank
> 
 
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Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Dennis Cowan]

Dear Frank

I can indeed confirm that the clock was stopped at 12.  I took the photo at 
09.55am.  The church on which the clock is mounted had recently been sold 
and I expect that the new owners has not yet appointed a "Keeper of the 
Clock"!


Regards

Dennis


- Original Message - 
From: "Frank King" 

To: "Dennis Cowan" 
Cc: "Frank Evans" ; "Sundial" 
; 

Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin



Dear Dennis,

You note:


It also showed the photo in fig 5 of
the article.


Indeed so, and they drew attention to
the clock on the building behind the
empty pedestal, adding words to the
effect that:

 Even with the sundial missing
 experts can still tell the time.

Maybe but, I suspect, not with that
clock.  It looks as though it has
been stopped at 12.

Perhaps you can confirm one way or
another!

Kirkbean is clearly a challenging
place to tell the time unless you
bring along your own equipment!

Frank



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Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[rmallett]

On 24/05/2014 16:25, Frank King wrote:

Dear Dennis,

You note:


It also showed the photo in fig 5 of
the article.

Indeed so, and they drew attention to
the clock on the building behind the
empty pedestal, adding words to the
effect that:

   Even with the sundial missing
   experts can still tell the time.

Maybe but, I suspect, not with that
clock.  It looks as though it has
been stopped at 12.

Perhaps you can confirm one way or
another!

Kirkbean is clearly a challenging
place to tell the time unless you
bring along your own equipment!

Frank

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Thank the Lord for wrist watches !

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South Beds. UK

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Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Frank King]

Dear Dennis,

You note:

> It also showed the photo in fig 5 of
> the article.

Indeed so, and they drew attention to
the clock on the building behind the
empty pedestal, adding words to the
effect that:

  Even with the sundial missing
  experts can still tell the time.

Maybe but, I suspect, not with that
clock.  It looks as though it has
been stopped at 12.

Perhaps you can confirm one way or
another!

Kirkbean is clearly a challenging
place to tell the time unless you
bring along your own equipment!

Frank

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Re: Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Dennis Cowan]

For info the text in the programme was a slight misquote from my article in the 
Sept 2013 issue entitled "the sundials of Robert Palmer, Schoolmaster. It also 
showed tbe photo in fig 5 of the article.

regards

Dennis Cowan


Sent from my mobile.

Frank Evans  wrote:

I didn't recognise some of the quotations. Could they have been genuine?
Frank 55N 1W

On 24 May 2014, at 09:53, Tony Moss  wrote:

I wonder who made the connection?

Tony Moss


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To: Sundial List 
Sent: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:48
Subject: BSS Bulletin

Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this evening’s 
edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1
 
Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials
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RE: BSS Bulletin

[peter ransom]

I've distributed over 80 past copies to newly qualified teachers over the past 
couple of months and one item of discussion is why this has not been on HIGNFY, 
so I wondered if it is one of them that have passed on details.
 
ATB,
 
Peter Ransom
 
To: jmikes...@ntlworld.com; sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: BSS Bulletin
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 04:53:32 -0400
From: tonylindi...@talktalk.net



 I wonder who made the connection?



Tony Moss






 






 






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From: jmikes...@ntlworld.com


To: Sundial List 


Sent: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:48


Subject: BSS Bulletin

























Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this 
evening’s edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1




 




Mike 
Shaw


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West


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Bulletin

[Colin Davis]

Hi!
Extended version Monday evening at 10:30pm BBC1.
Cheers
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Re: Fw: BSS Bulletin

[Steve Lelievre]

Thanks Mike,

Unfortunately the BBC iplayer doesn't work here in Canada; it's 
something to do with copyright and broadcast licencing. There's a 
digital lock built in to the iplayer so that it won't work with Canadian 
IP addresses (or most other countries). It would be possible to 
circumvent the software lock, but our criminal code forbids that.


Ah well.

Steve



On 24/05/2014 9:49 AM, jmikes...@ntlworld.com wrote:

See:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b044j5n1/have-i-got-news-for-you-series-47-episode-8
Scroll forward to 24m 20s
Mike Shaw

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Re: BSS Bulletin

[Ian Maddocks]

Hi folks
The episode is at
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b044j5n1/have-i-got-news-for-you-series-47-episode-8
Starting at 24 minutes in
But to my knowledge this only works from within the UK , so only useful for BSS 
members sadly.
Best wishes
Ian
Chester, UK

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Sent: 24 May 2014 13:34
To: "Steve Lelievre" 
Cc: "Sundial List" 
Subject: Re: BSS Bulletin

Steve,

Each week they do a quote from some obscure publication with a few words 
blocked out for the teams to guess what the missing words are.
This week they used the BSS Bulletin.
Sadly, there doesn’t seem to be a repeat scheduled, but you should be able to 
see it in BBC iPlayer.
It’s the one with Kirsty Young as the host.

Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials


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Fw: BSS Bulletin

[jmikeshaw]

See:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b044j5n1/have-i-got-news-for-you-series-47-episode-8

Scroll forward to 24m 20s

Mike Shaw


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Re: BSS Bulletin

[jmikeshaw]

Steve,

Each week they do a quote from some obscure publication with a few words 
blocked out for the teams to guess what the missing words are.
This week they used the BSS Bulletin.
Sadly, there doesn’t seem to be a repeat scheduled, but you should be able to 
see it in BBC iPlayer.
It’s the one with Kirsty Young as the host.

Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials


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Fwd: Re: BSS Bulletin

[Frank Evans]

I didn't recognise some of the quotations. Could they have been genuine?
Frank 55N 1W

On 24 May 2014, at 09:53, Tony Moss <mailto:tonylindi...@talktalk.net>> wrote:



I wonder who made the connection?

Tony Moss


-Original Message-
From: jmikes...@ntlworld.com <mailto:jmikes...@ntlworld.com>
To: Sundial List mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de>>
Sent: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:48
Subject: BSS Bulletin

Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this 
evening’s edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1

Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials <http://www.wiz.to/sundials>
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Re: BSS Bulletin

[Steve Lelievre]

Hi,

Plese give us a bit more detail / some context  ... what happened on the TV
show?

Steve


On Friday, May 23, 2014, jmikes...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:

>   Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this
> evening’s edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1
>
> Mike Shaw
> 53º 22' North 03º 02' West
> www.wiz.to/sundials
>
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Re: BSS Bulletin

[Tony Moss]

 I wonder who made the connection?

Tony Moss

 

 

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From: jmikes...@ntlworld.com
To: Sundial List 
Sent: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:48
Subject: BSS Bulletin



Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this evening’s 
edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1
 
Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials

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BSS Bulletin

[jmikeshaw]

Good to see the British Sundial Society’s Bulletin featured on this evening’s 
edition of “Have I got News For You” on BBC1

Mike Shaw
53º 22' North 03º 02' West
www.wiz.to/sundials


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BSS Bulletin, March issue

[John Davis]

Dear colleagues,

The March issue of the BSS Bulletin was dispatched a few days ago and most 
members should have received their copies already. Let me know is yours doesn't 
arrive soon.

As usual, the full Contents list and a sample article are visible on our 
website at www.sundialsoc.org.uk

Regards,

John
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December BSS Bulletin

[John Davis]

Dear Sundialling Colleagues,

The December issue of the BSS Bulletin has just been posted out to members. If 
yours doesn't arrive in a reasonable time, please let me know.

As usual, the complete Contents List is available on our website 
(http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php) together with a sample article for 
download.

Regards,

John
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September BSS Bulletin

[John Davis]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,

The September issue of the BSS Bulletin was posted to members at the beginning 
of this month. I hope yours has arrived by now - let me know if not.  As usual, 
an updated Contents list and an article for free download are on our website at 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php

Regards,

John
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BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The June issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been dispatched to members. 
Should yours not reach you in a sensible time, please let me know.
 
As always, the running Contents list is on our website at 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php and there is a sample article for 
free download.
 
Regards,
 
John
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March BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
The March issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been distributed to members. 
As always, if yours doesn't arrive in a sensible time, please let me know.
 
The Contents list, together with a sample article for free download, is on 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php
 
Regards,
 
John


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BSS Bulletin - December

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The December issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been dispatched to members. 
If yours doesn't arrive in a sensible time, please let me know.
 
As usual, the contents are listed on our website, 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.php and there is also one article for 
free download.
 
Regards,
 
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June BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The June issue of the BSS Bulletin was dispatched a couple of weeks ago so all 
members should have received their copy by now.
 
As usual, the complete contents list can be found on the BSS website, 
www.sundialsoc.org.uk together with one article available as a pdf for free 
download.
 
Regards,
 
John
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RE: March Bulletin

[Tom Kreyche]

John,

 

Today my mailbox revealed both the March issue of the BSS Bulletin AND the
March issue of the Journal of the North American Sundial Society - I think
the first time this has happened. Almost an embarrassment of riches! Thanks
to you, Fred Sawyer and all the contributors for keeping us informed and
entertained.

 

.Tom Kreyche

 

From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of JOHN DAVIS
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:36 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: March Bulletin

 


Dear Dialling Collegues,

 

The March issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been distributed to
members. Please let me know if yours does not arrive in a sensible period.

 

As usual, the Contents list, and a sample article for free download, is on
the BSS website at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.htm

 

Regards,

 

John



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March Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Collegues,
 
The March issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been distributed to members. 
Please let me know if yours does not arrive in a sensible period.
 
As usual, the Contents list, and a sample article for free download, is on the 
BSS website at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.htm
 
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September Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The September issue of the British Sundial Society Bulletin has just been 
dispatched to members. If you do not get yours within a sensible period, please 
let me know.
 
As usual, the Contents list is on the Bulletin page of the BSS website 
(www.sundialsoc.org.uk), together with a sample article for free download.
 
Regards,
 
John Davis
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June BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
The June issue of the BSS Bulletin has now been dispatched to members - please 
let me know if yours doesn't arrive in a sensible time.
 
As always, the extended list of Contents for all issues and a free downloadable 
article from this latest issue are on the BSS website at www.sundialsoc.org.uk 
- just follow the links to Bulletin.
 
Regards,
 
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BSS Bulletin contents

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
The online contents list of the BSS Bulletin has just been updated and now 
includes one more article for free download. Go to: 
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/bulletin.htm

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Re: BSS Bulletin on DVD

[Bill Gottesman]

  
  
Sign me up, John!  How do we pay?  Can we use paypal?
-Bill G

On 3/11/2011 11:17 AM, JOHN DAVIS wrote:

  

  

  Dear Dialling Colleagues,
   
  The British Sundial Society is pleased to announce
that the full run of BSS Bulletins, from the start of
the Society in 1989 until September 2010 (a total of 75
issues) is now available on a DVD-R.
   
  The cost of the DVD to BSS members is £25 +p&p.
It may also be purchased at a cost of £75 by
non-members, though it would be advantageous to join to
get the lower price! Contact BSS Sales (Elspeth Hill at
mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk)
to purchase, or me for any technical enquiry. 
   
  The BSS is grateful to Kevin Karney, assisted by
Elaine Hyde, for the conversion of the 75 issues into
PDF files. 
   
  Regards,
   
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RE: BSS Bulletin on DVD

[John Carmichael]

This is wonderful news John D. !

 

I have all the digital Compendiums on my computers and this format comes in
very handy and I use them often- usually when I’m researching something or
on the road.  You have sent me many PDF copies of BSS articles in the past
for use in our websites, and I’ve noticed that I can see much higher quality
graphics in the digital format than in printed paper BSS Bulletin.  And I
can zoom in on them too and can copy photos and articles.   (But I still
love my paper copy for first-time reading!)

 

This is a great step forward for The British Sundial Societry, and it will
be a wonderful resource.  Congratulations to everybody involved at the BSS
for putting this together.  I’m sure it was a lot of work to get it done.  I
will contact Elspeth Hill at mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk to order my copy!

 

Thanks from all of us,

 

John Carmichael

 

 

From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of JOHN DAVIS
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:17 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Cc: Elspeth Hill
Subject: BSS Bulletin on DVD

 


Dear Dialling Colleagues,

 

The British Sundial Society is pleased to announce that the full run of BSS
Bulletins, from the start of the Society in 1989 until September 2010 (a
total of 75 issues) is now available on a DVD-R.

 

The cost of the DVD to BSS members is £25 +p&p. It may also be purchased at
a cost of £75 by non-members, though it would be advantageous to join to get
the lower price! Contact BSS Sales (Elspeth Hill at
mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk) to purchase, or me for any technical enquiry. 

 

The BSS is grateful to Kevin Karney, assisted by Elaine Hyde, for the
conversion of the 75 issues into PDF files. 

 

Regards,

 

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BSS Bulletin on DVD

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The British Sundial Society is pleased to announce that the full run of BSS 
Bulletins, from the start of the Society in 1989 until September 2010 (a total 
of 75 issues) is now available on a DVD-R.
 
The cost of the DVD to BSS members is £25 +p&p. It may also be purchased at a 
cost of £75 by non-members, though it would be advantageous to join to get the 
lower price! Contact BSS Sales (Elspeth Hill at mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk) to 
purchase, or me for any technical enquiry. 
 
The BSS is grateful to Kevin Karney, assisted by Elaine Hyde, for the 
conversion of the 75 issues into PDF files. 
 
Regards,
 
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Re: BSS bulletin copy of article

[Frans W. Maes]

Dear Willy,
I will send you a copy.
Kind regards,
Frans Maes

On 30-11-2010 18:14, willy.leend...@telenet.be wrote:

Preparing an article for the bulletin of 'Zonnewijzerkring Vlaanderen'
(The Flemmish Sundial Society) I am in search of a copy of

Sarah Syman, Shadow Clocks and Sloping Sundials of the Egyptian New
Kingdomand Late Period: Usage, Development and Structure, The British
Sundial Society Bulletin 98.3 (1998), 30-36


Who sent me that copy?


Willy Leenders

Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)



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BSS bulletin copy of article

[willy . leenders]

Preparing an article for the bulletin of 'Zonnewijzerkring Vlaanderen' (The 
Flemmish Sundial Society) I am in search of a copy of 


Sarah Syman, Shadow Clocks and Sloping Sundials of the Egyptian New Kingdom and 
Late Period: Usage, Development and Structure, The British Sundial Society 
Bulletin 98.3 (1998), 30-36 




Who sent me that copy? 




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75th Bulletin again

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
Oops - I hit return too soon! The address should have been 
www.sundialsoc.org.uk.
 
Regards,
 
John
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75th BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
I'm pleased to announce that the September issue of the BSS Bulletin, which has 
just been distributed to members, is our 75th edition. As usual, a list of the 
contents is available on our website www.sundialsoc.og.uk, as well as a sample 
article for free download. If you want to read the others, you need to join us/

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September Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
The September issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been mailed out - please 
let me know if yours doesn't arrive (assuming you're a member, of course!).
 
As usual, the contents are listed on the Bulletin page at www.sundialsoc.org.uk 
and there is one article available for free download.
 
Regards,
 
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Artikel in Bulletin van De Zonnewijzerkring Nederland

[Willy Leenders]

Dag zonen en co,

Ter informatie:

Ik publiceer regelmatig in 'Zonnetijdingen',  het tijdschrift van  
Zonnewijzerkring Vlaanderen.
Nu verscheen er ook een artikel van mij in het 'Bulletin' van  
Zonnewijzerkring Nederland.
Het betreft de beschrijving en mijn berekening van de grootste  
zonnewijzer van het land in Brussel.
Enkele maanden geleden verscheen het artikel ook in Franse vertaling  
in het tijdschrift van de Franse Association de Cardans Solaires.


Als PDF te downloaden. Het artikel vind je op blz. 48 t/m 53
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/downloads/zwk-bul-100-mei-2009.zip

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Bulletin nr. 100 of De Zonnewijzerkring.

[fer de vries]

Dear Friends,

On the occasion of our number 100 bulletin, may 2009, this bulletin is for 
download available at:
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/downloads/zwk-bul-100-mei-2009.zip

However, some wrote the bulletin couldn't be downloaded.
If so try:
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/downloads/zwk-bul-100-mei-2009.pdf

Best wishes, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries

De Zonnewijzerkring
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

Molens
http://www.collsemolen.dse.nl

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BSS Bulletin - June 2009

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Colleagues,
 
The June issue of the BSS Bulletin has recently been dispatched to members - if 
your does not arrive in a sensible time, please let me know.
 
As usual, the Contents list is on the BSS website (www.sundialsoc.org.uk and 
follow the links to The Bulletin) and one sample article is available for free 
download.
 
Regards,
 
John


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Congratulations to the Nr 100 issue of the bulletin of the Dutch Zonnewijzerkring

[Reinhold Kriegler]

 
 
Congratulations to Nr. 100!
 
 

 
What a wonderful occasion to be able to celebrate the 100th issue of the
bulletin of the Zonnewijzerkring!
Best wishes and hopefully GOOD LUCK for the next 100 issues!
 
 
Reinhold Kriegler
 
 
 
* ** ***  * ** ***
Reinhold R. Kriegler
Lat. 53° 6' <http://www.ta-dip.de/17,0,meine-sonnenuhren,index,0.html>
52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  
www.ta-dip.de
 <http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18>
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18
 
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March BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear dialling Colleagues,
 
I'm pleased to inform you that the latest BSS Bulletin is currently being 
distributed to our members. Please let me know if yours does not arrive in a 
sensible time.
 
As usual, the contents list is available on the BSS website 
(www.sundialsoc.org.uk and follow the link on the left to The Bulletin). In 
addition, one article, on a polarisation dial, is available for free download.
 
Happy dialling,
 
John Davis
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BSS Bulletin is First Class

[John Carmichael]

 

Congratulations to the British Sundial Society on it's Full Color edition of
the Bulletin.

 

What a difference that makes!  It looks like a first class magazine now.
All the photos come alive.  I really enjoyed getting my copy this month.

 

It must have cost a fortune to publish, but I for one really appreciate it.
We proudly put it on our coffee table for our Christmas party and everyone
loved it.

 

Thanks to the people at BSS who made this possible.  (just try not to raise
the dues!)

 

Merry Christmas

 

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December Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The December edition of the BSS Bulletin is now being posted out to members. If 
yours does not arrive in a sensible time (bearing in mind the Christmas rush) 
please let me know. Apologies for being slightly late - we have moved to new 
printers to allow us to go to full colour throughout.
 
As usual, the complete list of contents is now on the BSS website 
(www.sundialsoc.org.uk and follow the Bulletin link) and a sample article is 
available for free download.
 
Happy Christmas reading,
 
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September BSS Bulletin

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
   
  I'm pleased to inform you that the September issue of the BSS Bulletin has 
been dispatched to all our members. The contents list for the issue can be seen 
on the BSS website (http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/) - navigate to the Bulletin 
page from the left hand side of the home page.
   
  A sample article is available for free download (together with a selection of 
articles from earlier issues) to whet your appetite.
   
  Regards,
   
  John Davis
  BSS Editor
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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[Chris Lusby Taylor]

Well done, Fer and Joel. I'm sure Kate Pond's sundial was the one I remembered. 
Strangely, though, I now realise it almost certainly doesn't have any hour 
lines on the horizontal base, so misses the possibility of showing Italian 
Hours.

Kate: what we're discussing here is that, if you put conventional hour lines on 
the base of your Skywatch, the polar gnomon would show conventional hours, 
while the edges of the circle would show Italian and Babylonian hours on the 
same lines, but with all numbers doubled (i.e. read, say, 3:15 as 6:30). Also, 
incidentally, you could put dates along the polar gnomon and use the shadow of 
the circle on it to indicate the date.

Best wishes
Chris

  - Original Message - 
  From: robic.joel 
  To: fer de vries ; Chris Lusby Taylor ; Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


  You can see a photo on:
  http://perso.orange.fr/cadrans.solaires/cadrans/cadran-kate-pond.html
  Best regards,
  Joël
  48°01'25'' N, 1°45'40" O
  ---> http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/

- Original Message - 
From: fer de vries 
To: Chris Lusby Taylor ; Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


Chris,

You wrote:
At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

Could it be the (small) sculpture by Kate pond? Diameter about 4.5 inch. 
Named Skywatch.
Coyright Kate Pond.

An advertisement is in Compendium vol. 2 nr. 4 december 1995, page 26.

Think for the copyright.

Best wishes, Fer. 


Fer J. de Vries

De Zonnewijzerkring
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N  long.  5:30 E

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Lusby Taylor 
  To: Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


  Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the 
spot for you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does a whole 
lot better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.

  The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. I'd 
seen pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must work, I 
realised (as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly the same as the 
half-hour lines of a conventional sundial. I also spotted that you don't need 
the whole cone - any conic section would be just as good. So a circular disk or 
ring surrounding a conventional gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours 
on the existing hour lines.

  At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with 
a gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

  While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought 
of using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the middle, as 
its silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.

  If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a 
picture of my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" consisting of 
nothing more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. Please be careful not 
to email the whole list.

  Chris Lusby Taylor
  51.4N 1.3W



- Original Message - 
From: Bill CS.Com 
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
    Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Article in March BSS bulletin


I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS 
Bulletin
on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal 
sundial.
I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did 
not
understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a 
little
work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally 
display
these hours.

Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from 
sunrise, or
hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) 
round
Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, 
or is
  

Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[Mike Shaw]

I have a Kate Pond Skywatch.

Photo at: 
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jmikeshaw/Pond.jpg

Mike Shaw

53.37N
3.02W

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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[robic.joel]

You can see a photo on:
http://perso.orange.fr/cadrans.solaires/cadrans/cadran-kate-pond.html
Best regards,
Joël
48°01'25'' N, 1°45'40" O
---> http://www.cadrans-solaires.fr/

  - Original Message - 
  From: fer de vries 
  To: Chris Lusby Taylor ; Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


  Chris,

  You wrote:
  At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

  Could it be the (small) sculpture by Kate pond? Diameter about 4.5 inch. 
Named Skywatch.
  Coyright Kate Pond.

  An advertisement is in Compendium vol. 2 nr. 4 december 1995, page 26.

  Think for the copyright.

  Best wishes, Fer. 


  Fer J. de Vries

  De Zonnewijzerkring
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

  Eindhoven, Netherlands
  lat.  51:30 N  long.  5:30 E

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Lusby Taylor 
To: Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the spot 
for you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does a whole lot 
better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.

The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. I'd 
seen pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must work, I 
realised (as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly the same as the 
half-hour lines of a conventional sundial. I also spotted that you don't need 
the whole cone - any conic section would be just as good. So a circular disk or 
ring surrounding a conventional gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours 
on the existing hour lines.

At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought of 
using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the middle, as its 
silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.

If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a picture 
of my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" consisting of nothing 
more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. Please be careful not to email 
the whole list.

Chris Lusby Taylor
51.4N 1.3W



  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill CS.Com 
  To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
  Subject: Article in March BSS bulletin


  I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS Bulletin
  on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal sundial.
  I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did not
  understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a 
little
  work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
  text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally 
display
  these hours.

  Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from sunrise, 
or
  hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) round
  Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, or 
is
  a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?

  Bill Gottesman
  Burlington 


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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[fer de vries]

Chris,

You wrote:
At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

Could it be the (small) sculpture by Kate pond? Diameter about 4.5 inch. Named 
Skywatch.
Coyright Kate Pond.

An advertisement is in Compendium vol. 2 nr. 4 december 1995, page 26.

Think for the copyright.

Best wishes, Fer. 


Fer J. de Vries

De Zonnewijzerkring
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N  long.  5:30 E

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Lusby Taylor 
  To: Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


  Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the spot 
for you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does a whole lot 
better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.

  The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. I'd 
seen pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must work, I 
realised (as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly the same as the 
half-hour lines of a conventional sundial. I also spotted that you don't need 
the whole cone - any conic section would be just as good. So a circular disk or 
ring surrounding a conventional gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours 
on the existing hour lines.

  At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

  While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought of 
using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the middle, as its 
silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.

  If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a picture of 
my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" consisting of nothing 
more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. Please be careful not to email 
the whole list.

  Chris Lusby Taylor
  51.4N 1.3W



- Original Message - 
From: Bill CS.Com 
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
    Subject: Article in March BSS bulletin


I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS Bulletin
on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal sundial.
I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did not
understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a little
work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally display
these hours.

Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from sunrise, or
hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) round
Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, or is
a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?

Bill Gottesman
Burlington 





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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[Frans W. Maes]

Dear Chris, Bill & all,

I can add some information, based on my article on the Genk cone dial in 
the Bulletin of the Dutch Sundial Society, May 2005.

Javier Moreno Bores mentioned the relationship between conventional hour 
lines and Bab. & Ital. hour lines already in his article in the NASS 
Compendium 5(2), June 1998.

The beautiful minimalistic sundial Chris mentioned is located in the 
Spanish sundial town of Otos (some 70 km south of Valencia). It was made 
by Joan Olivares (gnomonics) and Andreu Alfaro (artwork). A picture can 
be found at: http://www.ruralotos.com/ruta_rellotges.htm.

Although it might look like an equatorial dial, it is in fact a 
horizontal dial. The hours are indicated on the concrete base: numbers 
for the even hours, points for the odd ones. The circle was mainly meant 
as an artistic addition. It does serve a calendrical function, though: 
at the equinox its shadow becomes a straight line.

By adding hour and half-hour lines, and Bab. & Ital. hour numbers, this 
nice sculpture could be converted into a triple sundial!

Best regards,
Frans

Chris Lusby Taylor wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the 
> spot for you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does 
> a whole lot better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.
>  
> The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. 
> I'd seen pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must 
> work, I realised (as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly 
> the same as the half-hour lines of a conventional sundial. I also 
> spotted that you don't need the whole cone - any conic section would be 
> just as good. So a circular disk or ring surrounding a conventional 
> gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours on the existing hour lines.
>  
> At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with 
> a gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a 
> polar gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have 
> had the idea of combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very 
> sorry, but I don't know who.
>  
> While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought 
> of using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the 
> middle, as its silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.
>  
> If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a 
> picture of my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" 
> consisting of nothing more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. 
> Please be careful not to email the whole list.
>  
> Chris Lusby Taylor
> 51.4N 1.3W
>  
>  
>  
> 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bill CS.Com <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* sundial@uni-koeln.de <mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
> *Subject:* Article in March BSS bulletin
> 
> I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS
> Bulletin
> on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal
> sundial.
> I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and
> did not
> understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took
> a little
> work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
> text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally
> display
> these hours.
> 
> Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from
> sunrise, or
> hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed)
> round
> Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method
> yourself, or is
> a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?
> 
> Bill Gottesman
> Burlington
> 
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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[fer de vries]

Hi Chris,

Indeed, Javier Moreno Bores developed this conic dial with Babylonian and 
Italian hourlines for the contest for 12 sundilas in the sundialpark at Gent, 
Belgium.

It is Fabio Savian who constructed more dials with a cone or a section of a 
cone.
E.g see at
http://www.nonvedolora.it/rana.htm

http://www.nonvedolora.it/calendario2003.htm Month Marzo with a series of balls 
in a cone Thera are more examples in this calnder.

http://www.nonvedolora.it/arcodiurno.htm


Best wishes, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries

De Zonnewijzerkring
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N  long.  5:30 E

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Lusby Taylor 
  To: Bill CS.Com ; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Article in March BSS bulletin


  Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the spot 
for you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does a whole lot 
better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.

  The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. I'd 
seen pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must work, I 
realised (as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly the same as the 
half-hour lines of a conventional sundial. I also spotted that you don't need 
the whole cone - any conic section would be just as good. So a circular disk or 
ring surrounding a conventional gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours 
on the existing hour lines.

  At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

  While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought of 
using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the middle, as its 
silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.

  If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a picture of 
my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" consisting of nothing 
more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. Please be careful not to email 
the whole list.

  Chris Lusby Taylor
  51.4N 1.3W



- Original Message - 
From: Bill CS.Com 
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Article in March BSS bulletin


I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS Bulletin
on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal sundial.
I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did not
understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a little
work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally display
these hours.

Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from sunrise, or
hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) round
Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, or is
a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?

Bill Gottesman
Burlington 





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Re: Article in March BSS bulletin

[Chris Lusby Taylor]

Thank you, Bill, for your very kind words. I'm glad my article hit the spot for 
you. I'm very fond of Italian Hours - one thing a sundial does a whole lot 
better than a watch is to tell you how long it is to sunset.

The originator of the cone gnomon is, I believe, Javier Moreno Bores. I'd seen 
pictures of his dial at Genk. While working out how it must work, I realised 
(as he surely knows) that its hour lines are exactly the same as the half-hour 
lines of a conventional sundial. I also spotted that you don't need the whole 
cone - any conic section would be just as good. So a circular disk or ring 
surrounding a conventional gnomon would tell Italian and Babylonian hours on 
the existing hour lines.

At that point, I remembered seeing somewhere a picture of a sundial with a 
gnomon consisting of a shiny metal tube that was bent to form both a polar 
gnomon and an equatorial circle. So, someone else seems to have had the idea of 
combining both gnomons on one dial before I did. Very sorry, but I don't know 
who.

While thinking of other ways to realise the gnomon physically, I thought of 
using a CD. It turns out to be ideal, except for the hole in the middle, as its 
silvering helps you hold it at the correct angle.

If anyone reading this is not a member of the BSS and would like a picture of 
my "Universal Italian and Babylonian Hours Accessory" consisting of nothing 
more than 3/4 of a CD, please email me off list. Please be careful not to email 
the whole list.

Chris Lusby Taylor
51.4N 1.3W



  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill CS.Com 
  To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:31 PM
  Subject: Article in March BSS bulletin


  I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS Bulletin
  on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal sundial.
  I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did not
  understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a little
  work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
  text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally display
  these hours.

  Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from sunrise, or
  hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) round
  Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, or is
  a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?

  Bill Gottesman
  Burlington 


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Article in March BSS bulletin

[Bill CS.Com]

I want to recommend Chris Lusby Taylor's article in the March BSS Bulletin
on Italian/Babylonian hours and how they relate to the horizontal sundial.
I had never really been interested in these hours much before, and did not
understand the geometric principles involved.  Chris's article took a little
work for me to understand, but it was worth it, as the illustrations and
text were right-on.  I now understand how cone gnomons can naturally display
these hours.

Best of all, he describes a method for easily telling hours from sunrise, or
hours to sunset, from a horizontal sundial, using just a (destroyed) round
Music CD.  Very clever.  Chris, did you discover this method yourself, or is
a modern day adaptation of a previously known method?

Bill Gottesman
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Enflishe Summaries bulletin of De Zonnewijzerkring.

[fer de vries]

Friends,

A new English summary of the bulletin of De Zonnewijzerkring has been written.
Now you may read English summaries of all the bulletins from 1998 to and with 
2006.

Best wishes, Fer.

http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

Link: English summaries.


Fer J. de Vries

De Zonnewijzerkring
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Re: AW: Summaries of bulletin - Block dials

[Frank King]

Dear Ruud,

I very much agree with your comment...

> Mathematically, a polyhedron ... need not be
> regular or indeed convex.

My favourite polyhedron is the Szilassi Torus.
This is not just concave but, as the name
implies, it is equivalent to a ring.

This polyhedron has just SEVEN faces.  Each face
is an irregular hexagon.

I find it remarkable that with just seven
flat hexagonal faces you can make a torus.

This polyhedron illustrates the Seven-Colour
Map Problem: each face has an edge in common
with each of the other six faces.

Before you rush to Google, see if you can
work out how such a torus is possible.

I am certain you could make a sundial from a
Szilassi Torus with one (or more) of its edges
casting a shadow onto one (or more) of its faces
There would be no need for vulnerable gnomons;
the whole thing could be made out of stone.

OK: that's my challenge for the week!

Oh, I REALLY enjoyed your doggerel:

>  KonKAV ist eine Fläche dann, 
>  wenn man KAFfee hineinschütten kann.

I didn't know there were jokes like that in German!
Does it translate into Dutch?

Please send me more, but OFF List!!

Frank H. King
Cambridge, U.K.


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RE: AW: Summaries of bulletin - Block dials

[R. Hooijenga]

Hello toves out there,
Thanks for all the comments!

Mathematically, a polyhedron is  a body bounded by polygons. It need not be
regular or indeed convex. I used the term because it is descriptive of what 
the sundials look like.

Ruud Hooijenga (please note the extra 'j' in my name :-) )

PS
I always had trouble remembering which was which, until -40 years ago- I
read:
KonKAV ist eine Fläche dann, 
wenn man KAFfee hineinschütten kann.


-Frans Maes wrote:-
Actually, I would not call it a "polyhedron", as I would reserve that 
term for a convex body bounded by regular polygons. The polygons may or 
may not all be the same. A multiple sundial such as this one, with lots 
of edges and crevices, has been called a "Blocksonnenuhr" (block 
sundial) by René Rohr, and that is also the term I used in the article 
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AW: AW: Summaries of bulletin - Block dials

[Reinhold Kriegler]

 

…”I didn't know there were jokes like that
in German!”

 

Hear, hear, Prof. King!!!

 

Reinhold

 

*
** ***  * ** ***

Reinhold
R. Kriegler

Lat.
53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  

http://www.sundials.ru/frankfurt.html

 

 

-Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
Auftrag von Frank King
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2006 22:19
An: R. Hooijenga
Cc: 'sundial'
Betreff: Re: AW: Summaries of bulletin - Block dials

 

Dear
Ruud,

 

I
very much agree with your comment...

 

>
Mathematically, a polyhedron ... need not be

>
regular or indeed convex.

 

My
favourite polyhedron is the Szilassi Torus.

This
is not just concave but, as the name

implies,
it is equivalent to a ring.

 

This
polyhedron has just SEVEN faces.  Each face

is
an irregular hexagon.

 

I
find it remarkable that with just seven

flat
hexagonal faces you can make a torus.

 

This
polyhedron illustrates the Seven-Colour

Map
Problem: each face has an edge in common

with
each of the other six faces.

 

Before
you rush to Google, see if you can

work
out how such a torus is possible.

 

I
am certain you could make a sundial from a

Szilassi
Torus with one (or more) of its edges

casting
a shadow onto one (or more) of its faces

There
would be no need for vulnerable gnomons;

the
whole thing could be made out of stone.

 

OK:
that's my challenge for the week!

 

Oh,
I REALLY enjoyed your doggerel:

 

> 
KonKAV ist eine Fläche dann, 

> 
wenn man KAFfee hineinschütten kann.

 

I
didn't know there were jokes like that in German!

Does
it translate into Dutch?

 

Please
send me more, but OFF List!!

 

Frank
H. King

Cambridge,
U.K.

 

 

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Re: AW: Summaries of bulletin

[Frans W. Maes]

Dear Reinhold & all,

Just to set the record straight: the photo in the English summary of the 
May 2006 Bulletin depicts the old polyhedral sundial that was recently 
brought to the Eise Eisinga Planetarium in Franeker.


Actually, I would not call it a "polyhedron", as I would reserve that 
term for a convex body bounded by regular polygons. The polygons may or 
may not all be the same. A multiple sundial such as this one, with lots 
of edges and crevices, has been called a "Blocksonnenuhr" (block 
sundial) by René Rohr, and that is also the term I used in the article 
in the Bulletin.


Best regards,
Frans

Reinhold Kriegler wrote:



Dear Fer,

 


thank you very much for this announcement!

And special thanks to *Ruud Hooienga* for his splendid translation 
service! It is always a lot of work!!


I enjoyed the May issue 2006 very much!

 


sum-91-03.jpg

Remnants of a stone dial of the Sibculo monastery, found in 1928, are 
discussed to see what may be done with them.


 

Is there already a decision about this very interesting object? It 
really would be worth to be re-animated!


Best wishes!

Reinhod

 


** * ** ***  * ** *** **

Reinhold R. Kriegler

** Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  **

http://www.sundials.ru/frankfurt.html

 


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
*Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *fer de vries

*Gesendet:* Freitag, 20. Oktober 2006 10:29
*An:* sundial
*Betreff:* Summaries of bulletinn

 


Dear friends,

 

On our website you may read the English summary of the  May 2006 
bulletin of De Zonnewijzerkring.


And of course the other summaries since 2000.

These summaries are all written by the editor Ruud Hooienga.

 


Best wishes, Fer.

 

 

 


Fer J. de Vries

 


De Zonnewijzerkring
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl

 


Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N  long.  5:30 E




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AW: Summaries of bulletin

[Reinhold Kriegler]

Dear Fer,

 

thank you very much for this
announcement! 

And special thanks to Ruud Hooienga for his splendid translation
service! It is always a lot of work!!

I enjoyed the May issue 2006
very much!

 



Remnants of a stone dial of the Sibculo monastery,
found in 1928, are discussed to see what may be done with them.

 

Is there already a
decision about this very interesting object? It really would be worth to be
re-animated! 

Best wishes!

Reinhod

 



* ** ***  * ** ***

Reinhold R. Kriegler

Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53'
52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  

http://www.sundials.ru/frankfurt.html



 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
Auftrag von fer de vries
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Oktober
2006 10:29
An: sundial
Betreff: Summaries of bulletinn

 



Dear friends,





 





On our website you may read
the English summary of the  May 2006 bulletin of De
Zonnewijzerkring.





And of course the other summaries
since 2000.





These summaries are all written by
the editor Ruud Hooienga.





 





Best wishes, Fer.





 





 





 





Fer J. de Vries





 





De Zonnewijzerkring
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl





 





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Re: International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n� 05 Febr uary 2004

[nicolaseverino]

Hi Heiner, 
 
I can send you the IGB n° 5 on Monday next (9, 
february).
Thanks
Nicola
 
Nicola SeverinoVia Lazio 9Roccasecca Stazione FR Italy[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/webgnomonices[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igbulletin/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meridiane/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  heiner 
  thiessen 
  To: Sundials Mail List 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: International Gnomonic 
  Bulletin (IGB) n° 05 February 2004
  
  Nicola, 
  Anche io, non posso aprire le 
pagine.
  Un email per favore. 
  Heiner Thiessen
   
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:25 
AM
Subject: Re: International Gnomonic 
Bulletin (IGB) n° 05 February 2004
2-05-04Nicola,I'm having 
problems.  I've yet to receive a bulletin.  I would appreciate 
receiving them as E--mails.  My modern computer expertise is 
limited.Thanks,Hal Brandmaier 

Re: International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n� 05 Febr uary 2004

[nicolaseverino]

Thanks Hal!
 
I can send you tha IGB n° 5 from my office on 
Monday next.
Ciao
Nicola
 
Nicola SeverinoVia Lazio 9Roccasecca Stazione FR Italy[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/webgnomonices[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igbulletin/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meridiane/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: International Gnomonic 
  Bulletin (IGB) n° 05 February 2004
  2-05-04Nicola,I'm having 
  problems.  I've yet to receive a bulletin.  I would appreciate 
  receiving them as E--mails.  My modern computer expertise is 
  limited.Thanks,Hal Brandmaier 

Re: International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n� 05 Febr uary 2004

[heiner thiessen]

Nicola, 
Anche io, non posso aprire le pagine.
Un email per favore. 
Heiner Thiessen
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: International Gnomonic 
  Bulletin (IGB) n° 05 February 2004
  2-05-04Nicola,I'm having 
  problems.  I've yet to receive a bulletin.  I would appreciate 
  receiving them as E--mails.  My modern computer expertise is 
  limited.Thanks,Hal Brandmaier 

Re: International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n� 05 February 2004

[GinnyandHalB]

Nicola,

I'm having problems.  I've yet to receive a bulletin.  I would appreciate receiving them as E--mails.  My modern computer expertise is limited.

Thanks,

Hal Brandmaier

International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n� 05 February 2004

[Daniel Roth]

Dear Friends,


the International Gnomonic Bulletin (IGB) n° 05 February 2004, and Web
Gnomonices! (WG) n° 02 - 2004 are posted on line at IGB and WG sites.


the IGB Contents:
IGB n° 5:
  Letters;
  Kircher Sundial from Archivum Monacense Societate Jesus from Munchen;
  Sonnenuhren of Kaspar Schot from Organum Mathematicum, 1668;
  Medieval sundial from Lihou;
  Archeognomonics: more pocket sundials from archaeological  escavations
(N. Severino);
  Louisbourg dials;
  Monastic sundial from St. Cuimin's Church (Noel O'Neill);
   And The Sawyer Dialing Prize (Fred Sawyer)



Web Gnomonices contens:
Denis Savoie, Passaggio al meridiano e meridiano (trad. di Riccardo Anselmi)
 Giacomo Agnelli, La meridiana catottrica di S. Cristo a Brescia
 Nicola Severino, Due frammenti di meridiane romane nel museo di Aquino
Cartoons di G. Agnelli: La precisione assoluta


You can download its for free, like members. For problems to download or
registrations to Yahoo sites, please contact me. I can send the files with
e-mail message.
Thanks for suggestions.
Nicola




Nicola Severino
Via Lazio 9
Roccasecca Stazione FR Italy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/webgnomonices
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igbulletin/
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-

New Italian Bulletin

[Fred Sawyer]

Nicola Severino is working on a new Italian 
gnomonic bulletin - similar to the International Gnomonic Bulletin but carrying 
only Italian language items.  The bulletin will be on the Internet and 
available to all who register for it at:
 
http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/webgnomonices
 
You can contact Nicola Severino at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 

RE: International Gnomonic Bulletin Nr. 2

[Roger Bailey]

Hi 
Reinhold,
 
I 
signed on to this group as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and enjoyed an evening exploring the notes and files. There 
is some great information posted by the members of this international 
group.Thanks for drawing this group to our attention 
again. 
 
Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N 48.6  W 123.4 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: November 18, 2003 12:53 
  PMTo: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.deSubject: International 
  Gnomonic Bulletin Nr. 2Dear friends,soon the 
  second issue of Nicola Severino's
  International Gnomonic 
  Bulletin
  will be edited and I think I 
  had not been the only one who had difficulties with the enrolment as a member 
  in order to get the permission for a free pdf-download of the magazine 
  and many other articles. I guess not everybody knows about this very 
  interesting new sundial project and not everybody has tried to become a 
  member. The membership - number is approaching the number 100. 
  I would like to present a copy of a Basho - paper-sundial to the Nr. 100 - IGB-member, which I had 
  bought in Nara during my sundial trip to Japan in 1999. Fred Sawyer has 
  written an interesting article about this traditional Japanese travelling - 
  sundial in NASS Compendium of March 2000. You can find it in the internet or 
  join NASS and get the Repository...Well then, member Nr. 100, whether 
  you live in Australia, South America, near the Arctic Circle or in Iran: A 
  little Basho paper sundial will be yours!Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igbulletin  
  Group email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  If you have any problems to become 
  a member, contact the editor Nicola Severino directly:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regardsReinhold Kriegler* ** ***  * ** ***Reinhold R. Kriegler53° 06' 53'' N, 8° 53' 54" E, 
  GMT + 1Bremen / DeutschlandE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  

International Gnomonic Bulletin Nr. 2

[RKriegler]

soon the second issue of Nicola Severino's

International Gnomonic Bulletin

will be edited and I think I had not been the only one who had difficulties with the enrolment as a member in order to get the permission for a free pdf-download of the magazine and many other articles. I guess not everybody knows about this very interesting new sundial project and not everybody has tried to become a member. 

The membership - number is approaching the number 100. 

I would like to present a copy of a Basho - paper-sundial to the Nr. 100 - IGB-member, which I had bought in Nara during my sundial trip to Japan in 1999. Fred Sawyer has written an interesting article about this traditional Japanese travelling - sundial in NASS Compendium of March 2000. You can find it in the internet or join NASS and get the Repository...

Well then, member Nr. 100, whether you live in Australia, South America, near the Arctic Circle or in Iran: A little Basho paper sundial will be yours!

Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igbulletin  
Group email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   

If you have any problems to become a member, contact the editor Nicola Severino directly:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Best regards
Reinhold Kriegler

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Reinhold R. Kriegler
53° 06' 53'' N, 8° 53' 54" E, GMT + 1

Bremen / Deutschland
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Internationa Gnomonic Bulletin Group

[Nicola]

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Hello!
The International Gnomonic Bulletin
have a new group and a new mailing list for suggestions. The Bulletin
will can be downloaded (not before of  november, 15) directly on
web sites. Please join to new group at:
 
More: Like a member of this group
(it is free!) you can download very much gnomonic files (like the
International Gnomonic Bibliography of N. Severino-C.Aked, 11.000
titles!), photos, articles and files by N. Severino. You also can put
in the album your photo and personal gnomonic files for
all!
 
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Greetings
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International Gnomonic Bulletin

[Fred Sawyer]

A new International Gnomonic Bulletin is being offered (on an experimental
basis) to dialists around the world by Nicola Severino.  The bulletin will
appear every month (or possibly every other month) beginning in December and
will contain news items and brief articles of interest to the dialing world.
Although most of the items may appear in Italian, notes are welcome from all
over the world - and the intention is to have an English summary for all
items.  The bulletin will be distributed free of charge as a PDF (or
possibly Word) document attached to an email - it will be a digital
publication only.  The expectation is that each file will be approx.
600-700Kb.  To place your name on the distribution list, send an email
directly to Nicola Severino at  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Do not use the
reply key for this email!)




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Re: March BSS Bulletin

[GinnyandHalB]

Mike,

Just received my March issue of the BSS Bulletin.  If your can't find someone in England, I would the copy of Milutin Tadics book.  I have a copy of his book on geography with a chapter on sundials, four learning books on Serbo-Croatian, and the experience of about three wonderful weeks in that region of the world near the end of the 20th century.

Thanks for your consideration,

Hal

BSS June Bulletin

[john . davis]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,

On behalf of the editor of the British Sundial Society Bulletin (Dr Margaret 
Stanier), I'm pleased to announce the contents of the June edition of the 
Bulletin will include the following items:

*  A new Sundial on the wall of the National Museums of Scotland
*  Railway Time: the Sundial designed by George Stephenson and his son Robert
*  The Martian Analemma
*  Ancient Sundials of Israel
*  Horizontal Scratch Dials: 2 in Scotland, 1 in England
*  The Pigpen Cipher decoded: from Mrs. Gatty’s Book of Sundials
*  The Sundial in Castletown, Isle of Man
*  A Window-sill Dial at Dartford, Kent
*  Dunscar Wood, Lancashire: human sundial

The edition will be distributed to all BSS members as normal.

Regards,

John Davis
--
Dr J R Davis
Flowton Dials
N52d08m  E1d05m

Bulletin 2001-3 summary

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Hello all readers,

I have just placed my English-language summary of the 2001-3 Bulletin of the
Zonnewijzerkring (Dutch Sundial Society) on my homepage.
If you like, please visit www.rhayward.demon.nl and follow the link for
Summary 01-3.

There is also a link to the homepage of the Zonnewijzerkring itself.

While it is not in the "history" section of the BSS Sundial Glossary, it may
bear pointing out that we are going to celebrate the Zonnewijzerkring's 25th
anniversary - also the 25th of the Bulletin, but you won't find summaries of
all of them..

Regards, and have a happy New Year;

Rudolf

Bulletin summaries

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Hello all,

I have uploaded the summary of Bulletin nr. 76 (2001-2) to my homepage.

To my horror, nr. 75 was not there- I must have completely forgotten to
upload it.
I have uploade that, too (2001-1).

Converting from Word to HTML I received an error message about some language
page or other. Clearing the cache and reading back from the server,
everything looks OK here, but experience tells me that does not say all.
If any characters look funny (accents, Greek) or other ill effects manifest
themselves, please drop me a small note. Same for language use... ;-)

Have a good read,
oh yes and have a look at the analemmatic being constructed in front of my
house. It's on the entry page.

http://www.rhayward.demon.nl

Regards,
Rudolf

Re: BSS Bulletin; Southern hemisphere dial

[Mike Cowham]

Dear Diallists,
As I am the culprit for putting this photograph in the BSS
Bulletin, I feel that I must reply.

Firstly, I had not spotted that the gnomon was reversed.  This
may even have been done by Christies if the gnomon had been detached
when they received it.
Looking again at the picture, the hour numerals certainly run
anti-clockwise making it 100% Southern Hemisphere.  
It is possible to tell that it is a Horizontal Dial because the
scale extends beyond the 6am / 6pm marks, which it could never do as a
direct south vertical dial.  Also the compass can only be read with it
horizontal.
The writing at the bottom is purely a tabulation of the EoT but
in an unusual form.  If anyone is interested I can try to copy it.  The
words engraved (or stamped or etched) are in a mixture of Spanish? and
English.  It is certainly a strange dial and most likely to be fairly
recent.  Unfortunately I was not able to view this sale, so my
observations were based solely on the catalogue entry.

Thanks for pointing out the reversed gnomon.

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Lusby Taylor  writes
>The latest BSS bulletin just arrived. The regular article about auctions
>shows a picture of a sundial apparently made for the southern
>hemisphere. It seems to be a brass plate with a gnomon sticking up at
>about 45 degrees and hour numerals increasing anticlockwise.
>
>I noticed that the gnomon had certainly been fitted the wrong way round.
>The style should meet the dial on the 6am/6pm line. It clearly did not.
>
>But with the gnomon the other way round, how can we be sure the dial is
>for the southern hemisphere? Might it not be a vertical, northern
>hemisphere dial rather than a horizontal, southern hemisphere one? There
>seem to be inscriptions, which may well clarify the issue but are
>illegible in the Bulletin. I cannot be sure which way up they are to be
>read, but they seem consistent with this being a vertical dial. I wonder
>how a southern hemisphere dial could end up in an auction in England. It
>seems unlikely.
>
>Chris Lusby Taylor
>51.4N 1.3W
>
>

Regards,
Mike.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cambridge, UK.

Re: BSS Bulletin. Southern Hemisphere Sundial?

[Daniel Lee Wenger]

 
Well spotted!

My guess would be horizontal, southern hemisphere.

If vertical south-facing the Roman numerals would be upside down seen from
below.

John Lynes

This touches on a question that I have pondered a bit. Perhaps the sundial group can help with the
answer. My dial, a globe represention of the earth, when made for a location in the southern hemishpere,
has the south pole of the globe pointed towards the south pole. The north pole is below the horizon. 

The numbers on the analemmas would progress from morning to night along the two tropic lines.

My question is: what should the orientation of the numbers be. Is up for those in the southern hemisphere
still towards the north pole? This may simply be a matter of taste, but perhaps there is a tradition in
southern hemisphere dials about the orientation.

Thanks for comment.

Daniel Wenger Daniel Lee Wenger
Santa Cruz, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wengersundial.com
http://wengersundial.com/wengerfamily  

BSS Bulletin. Southern Hemisphere Sundial?

[J Lynes]

Well spotted!My guess would be horizontal, southern 
hemisphere.If vertical south-facing the Roman numerals would be upside 
down seen frombelow.John Lynes

BSS Bulletin; Southern hemisphere dial

[Chris Lusby Taylor]

The latest BSS bulletin just arrived. The regular article about auctions
shows a picture of a sundial apparently made for the southern
hemisphere. It seems to be a brass plate with a gnomon sticking up at
about 45 degrees and hour numerals increasing anticlockwise.

I noticed that the gnomon had certainly been fitted the wrong way round.
The style should meet the dial on the 6am/6pm line. It clearly did not.

But with the gnomon the other way round, how can we be sure the dial is
for the southern hemisphere? Might it not be a vertical, northern
hemisphere dial rather than a horizontal, southern hemisphere one? There
seem to be inscriptions, which may well clarify the issue but are
illegible in the Bulletin. I cannot be sure which way up they are to be
read, but they seem consistent with this being a vertical dial. I wonder
how a southern hemisphere dial could end up in an auction in England. It
seems unlikely.

Chris Lusby Taylor
51.4N 1.3W

Re: Summary of Dutch Sundial Society Bulletin 00.3

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Hi Dave and all other readers,
Thank you for the kind responses.

Actually, the numbers are just the page numbers of the original paper
bulletin. This makes for easy reference.
The summary covers all the articles in the Bulletin.
You may note that my summary is always one issue of the Bulletin behind,
though.

Have a good New Year!
Rudolf

- Original Message -
From: Dave Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   I saw with interest the point at section 27:

Re: Summary of Dutch Sundial Society Bulletin 00.3

[Dave Bell]

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Rudolf Hooijenga wrote:

> I have just put an English-language summary of Bulletin 00.3 on my homepage.
> To make it more interesting, I added some of the pictures. Hopefully it does
> not slow down your connection too much.
> 
> http://www.rhayward.demon.nl/
> 
> Regards,
> Rudolf

  I saw with interest the point at section 27:
==
How to cope without a protractor J.A.F. de Rijk

Hans notes that one of the angles in the famous 3,4,5 triangle is 53,1,
which happens to be the latitude in the north of the Netherlands. Such a
triangle is easily made and can be used to test if a pole style is
correctly aimed.
==

  Which of course implies that the other acute angle is 36.9 degrees, very
nicely placed for a band across the US, not far south of my location! It
describes a latitude line from Monterey Bay in central California, through
the Arizona/Utah border, New Mexico/Colorado, Oklahoma/Kansas,
Missouri/Arkansas, and Tennessee/Kentucky... Not bad, for such a simple
device!

Dave Bell
N37.3 W122

Summary of Dutch Sundial Society Bulletin 00.3

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Hello fellow sungazers,

I have just put an English-language summary of Bulletin 00.3 on my homepage.
To make it more interesting, I added some of the pictures. Hopefully it does
not slow down your connection too much.

Feel free to have a look on

http://www.rhayward.demon.nl/

also, if you encounter any broken links, could you please let me know- I
have been moving some files around..

Regards,
Rudolf

Summary of special bulletin 99.3

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Hello fellow dialists,

I have placed a summary of Bulletin 99.3 of De Zonnewijzerkring on my web
page.
This special bulletin consists of a paper on Greek conical sundials, and a
recapitulative supplement on "Sundials in The Netherlands".
I will translate the entire Jan Kragten paper later. However, amateur that I
am, I have to divide my time between several issues.. it will be a while.


Rudolf Hooijenga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office)

Re: New Summary of De Zonnewijzerkring bulletin

[Wm. S. Maddux]

Tom,

You wrote re the editors of "Popular Electronics:"

>  They were out of their league in the area of sundialling. . .a
>typical situation amongst many techno types--to know all there is
> about one subject, and not have the foggiest notion of anything
>else.

I think it is attributable to Will Rogers . and I paraphrase:

'We are all ignorant .. but about different things.' ( :- { )

Bill

Re: New Summary of De Zonnewijzerkring bulletin

[Luke Coletti]

Hello John,

I too enjoyed reading about the "Solar Powered Sundial". Alas, as you
suspected, someone has already thought of it. In fact the article, that
I read when I was a teenager, was what got me interested in electronics
AND sundials both. The article "Build a Solar Powered Sundial" appeared
in Popular Electronics and used the output of two photo detectors to
drive a small DC motor via an H-Bridge until the detectors output became
"balanced". The unit also had solar cells to recharge the onboard
NiCads. Although the electronics were sound the sundial portion was not
so hot (although it did look pretty), they used equal angular lines as
the hour marks and butchered the explanation of the EoT. Still, it was a
lot of fun to build and it even worked when it was foggy (the detectors
had good IR sensitivity), which happens quite a bit where I live i.e.,
"sunny" California!


-Luke

John Pickard wrote:
> 
> Ruud,
> 
> Wonderful stuff! Many thanks for making the translations available.
> 
> I love the motorised dial. Elegant concept, how come no one thought
> of it before? The photo makes it look a bit clumsy, but as a
> prototype who cares? I imagine that a manufacturer could apply a bit
> of elegant design and packaging and come up with a rather attractive
> gift.
> 
> Parenthetically (and with my tongue very firmly in my cheek!): Could
> also be made in a military version (i.e. camoflague colours, and
> waterproof to 1000 m where I am sure it would be terribly useful!) as
> part of the survival kit of pilots. Sure would be better than the old
> tables! And more reliable than trying to find "I love John" carved
> into trees!
> 
> Anyway, I think it is a wonderful design and may I ask if it is being
> packaged commercially. Definitely the universal dial as a gift for
> any gnomist anywhere!
> 
> John
> 
> Dr John Pickard
> Senior Lecturer, Environmental Planning
> Graduate School of the Environment
> Macquarie University, NSW 2109 Australia
> Phone + 61 2 9850 7981 (work)
>   + 61 2 9482 8647 (home)
> Fax   + 61 2 9850 7972 (work)

Re: New Summary of De Zonnewijzerkring bulletin

[John Pickard]

Ruud,

Wonderful stuff! Many thanks for making the translations available.

I love the motorised dial. Elegant concept, how come no one thought 
of it before? The photo makes it look a bit clumsy, but as a 
prototype who cares? I imagine that a manufacturer could apply a bit 
of elegant design and packaging and come up with a rather attractive 
gift. 

Parenthetically (and with my tongue very firmly in my cheek!): Could 
also be made in a military version (i.e. camoflague colours, and 
waterproof to 1000 m where I am sure it would be terribly useful!) as 
part of the survival kit of pilots. Sure would be better than the old 
tables! And more reliable than trying to find "I love John" carved 
into trees!

Anyway, I think it is a wonderful design and may I ask if it is being 
packaged commercially. Definitely the universal dial as a gift for 
any gnomist anywhere! 

John


Dr John Pickard
Senior Lecturer, Environmental Planning
Graduate School of the Environment
Macquarie University, NSW 2109 Australia
Phone + 61 2 9850 7981 (work)
  + 61 2 9482 8647 (home)
Fax   + 61 2 9850 7972 (work)

New Summary of De Zonnewijzerkring bulletin

[Rudolf Hooijenga]

Dear fellow gnomonists,
 
I am happy to inform you that the new summary, 
99-2, is on my homepage.
It even has some pictures in it. Please have a 
look and enjoy our Bulletin even more!
 

Homepage:
http://www.rhayward.demon.nl
 
Rudolf Hooijenga
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

New italian gnomonic bulletin

[niksev]

Dear friends, 

I am very glad to communicate you that the first italian gnomonic bulletin
will be published in the next September. It will be published each 4 months
with the collaboration of UAI (Unione Astrofili Italiani - Sezione Quadranti
Solari).
The bulletin will be intitled "Gnomonica. Storia, Arte e Tecniche degli
orologi solari". Will have around 42 pages and will be reproduct in
photocopies with black and white immages and draws. The various articles in
this first number are all about history of gnomonics:

The contents is:

- "Mitologia e lettura oraria sui quadranti solari antichi", P. Forlati
(about the mitology);
- "Cronistoria delle meridiane di Fermo", A. Cintio (about the performance
of clocks of tower and sundials in the century ago);
- "La meridiana di Achaz, un orologio solare a rifrazione di George Hartmann
datato 1547", L. Colombo (about a incredible discovery into a little
atiquarian italian market of George Hartmann's chalice refraction sundial of
1547);
- "Costruzione di una meridiana analemmatica per la scuola di Quinzanello",
G. Agnelli (a article for to show the gnomonics to the children and pupils
of schools);
- "Il recupero della meridiana di S. Maria degli Angeli in Roma", J. Vaccaro
(a great project of adoption of this monument for restore);
- "E' ritornata a splendere la meridiana della Basilica di S. Niccolò
all'Arena a Catania", M. Trobia (about the restore of this great meridian line);
- "Storia della Bibliografia della Gnomonica", N. Severino (a history of the
more largest bibliography of gnomonica published in collaboration with
Charles K. Aked);
- "Charles K. Aked: in memoriam", N. Severino 
- "L'orologio solare di Torremaggiore: enigma risolto?", N. Severino (about
a strange little vertical sundial showed to VIII National Meeting of italian
diallists in 1997);
- Internet space (from sundial mailing list);
- "La Gnomonica nel WEB", D. Bonata (the first steps into gnomonica on
internet);

and other things on this number.


For a single diallist:
For receive a copy of the "Gnomonica", please to send £.3000 (around 1,5 USA
$); for tre number (for a year), please to send 10.000 lire (5 USA $).

For the ASSOCIATIONS:

It wolud be very nice to free exchange "Gnomonica" with other bulletin of
each association.

I hope your are interestin in this new italian project.
Please write me to:
Nicola Severino
Via Lazio, 6
03030 Roccasecca Stazione (FR) Italy
Phone 039 - 0776- 56.65.08

e.mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

With best reguards
Nicola
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  *  *Storico della Gnomonica   |
  *  *Via Lazio, 6 - 03030 ROCCASECCA STAZ. (FR)|
  *  *Phone: house: 0776 - 56.65.08 |
   *Office: 0776 - 310.414  |
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Re: British Sundial Society Bulletin; ceiling dials

[Mario Arnaldi]

At 10.02 06/06/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Mario Arnaldi misspelt David Young's name.
>

You are right Chris!
Thank for correct me.
I am a BSS member too, glad to read you.

Bye

Mario
==
MARIO ARNALDI
Viale Leonardo, 82
48020  Lido Adriano RA
ITALY

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: British Sundial Society Bulletin; ceiling dials

[Chris Lusby Taylor]

Mario Arnaldi misspelt David Young's name.

I am a member and have a complete list of
members, some of whom, including Fred
Sawyer, are in the USA. I will look it up
later today to see if any are in California.
Back issues of the Bulletin are available. I
don't have them all, but don't remember
seeing any articles on calculating ceiling
dials.

BTW, on the subject of ceiling dials, I have
invented a type which needs just one short
scale by virtue of using several mirrors to
'fold' the optical path. I am working on an
article for submission to the BSS Bulletin.
If anyone is interested, please email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards
Chris

Re: Bulletin of the British Sundial Society

[Mario Arnaldi]

At 11.37 05/06/96 -0700, you wrote:

>Is there anywhere in southern California where I can find the Bulletin 
>of the British Sundial Society?  I have searched the available on-line 
>catalogs of university and public libraries with no success. 
>
>Perhaps somone has a personal collection I could see?
>

Dear Claude,

    because the BSS bulletin is distributed among the members of the
society, I think that the best thing to do is to write to Mr. David Yung
that's the secretary. His address is Brook Cottage, 112 Whitehall Road,
CHINGFORD, London E4 6DW, tel. 0181 529 4880. I am sure that he can give you
the right informations.

Greetings

MArio Arnaldi
==
MARIO ARNALDI
Viale Leonardo, 82
48020  Lido Adriano RA
ITALY

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bulletin of the British Sundial Society

[Claude Hartman]

My thanks to Daniel Roth, Fred Sawyer, Fer J. de Vries and Mario Arnaldi 
for information on reflection dials.  Now my problem has been finding 
the journals referenced.
I have sent for membership in NASS and back issues of the Compendium.  

Is there anywhere in southern California where I can find the Bulletin 
of the British Sundial Society?  I have searched the available on-line 
catalogs of university and public libraries with no success. 

Perhaps somone has a personal collection I could see?

contents of the BSS Bulletin 96/1

[Daniel Roth]

CONTENTS OF THE BULLETIN 96/1 OF THE BRITISH SUNDIAL SOCIETY


In Memoriam - Dr. Marinus Johannes Hagen
Dialogue - De Zonnewijzerkring, Astronomia, Elias Allen
The 1995 BSS Conference, by Charles K. Aked
Open Book and Conical Dials, by Peter Lamont
Two Unusual Mass Dials in Dorset, by R. A. Nichols and C. M. Lowe
The Shadow of Respect, by Christopher St. J.-H. Daniel
The Sundials of the Talmont, by David J. Boullin
Follow the Yellow Book Crowd, by Jane Walker
Sunligt and Shadows, by Allan A. Mills
Mass Production Dials, by A. F. Baigent
Where is the Sun? by Gordon E. Taylor
Portable Ring Dial, by Colin J. Thorne
The Story of the Guernsey Liberation Monument
Refractive Sundials, by Allan A. Mills
The Astrolabe, by Rene R.-J- Rohr
British Sundial Awards Scheme 1995, by Alan Smith
Book Reviews
Readers Letters
Sundial Mottoes, by Charles K. Aked
Swords into Ploughshares, by Michael Hickman