Re: [freenet-support] Node not caching keys requested?
I haven't had time to verify if this occurs on the latest builds, but my store is not full (774 MB out of 2GB iirc). I'll check again this evening when I have some spare time. On 17/06/2004, at 10:28 AM, Toad wrote: Is the store full? If not, this is probably a bug... On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:33:53PM +1200, Phillip Hutchings wrote: I've just started running a freenet node again, it's been up for a few hours (and is getting bombarded by incoming connections :P). However, I'm trying to download FUQID from freenet so I can see the source. The node has actually completed the transfer 4 or 5 times (I had my browser timeout too low :/), but it still has to download it from other nodes. Is this normal? I have a 4GB store, so I would have thought it would have been stored by now... -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -- Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sitharus.com/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Automatic server retry of failing documents
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:17:30PM +0200, Michael Schierl wrote: > Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> a) one does not use Fproxy for fetching a file > > > > In which case whatever you did use would retry. > > Not necessarily. Scripts talking FCP via netcat most likely won't... > > And, I think it is not an option that *if* every tool retried (just > to make it work in b0rken freenet state) to "abuse" this by requiring > tools to do so. > > (this argument is a bit like "why remove popups on my website? there > are popup blockers anyway.") > > > >> b) the failing file is an image. In that case it just disappears and > >> you have to reload the page manually until you have all > >> images. (alternatively, you can open a browser window/tab for every > >> single image you want to have; IMHO this is no real solution either.) > > > > This is what IFRAME is for :) > > One iframe per image? IBTD. What's IBTD? I beg to differ? It works pretty well on the SSKvsCHK site :) > > mihi -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Node not caching keys requested?
Is the store full? If not, this is probably a bug... On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:33:53PM +1200, Phillip Hutchings wrote: > I've just started running a freenet node again, it's been up for a few > hours (and is getting bombarded by incoming connections :P). However, > I'm trying to download FUQID from freenet so I can see the source. The > node has actually completed the transfer 4 or 5 times (I had my browser > timeout too low :/), but it still has to download it from other nodes. > Is this normal? I have a 4GB store, so I would have thought it would > have been stored by now... -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] webinterface not available
Strange... what Java version are you running it under? On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 10:09:54PM +0200, Hessi James wrote: > hi, > > i run an up-to-date windows version of freenet. the webinterface however > is not reachable, the site does not finish loading. > in freenet.log i get many errors like this one: > > Jun 16, 2004 9:29:26 PM (freenet.support.io.NIOOutputStream, YThread-42, > ERROR): NIOOS.write(byte[],int,int) timed out.tcp/connection: > >127.0.0.1:4569,[EMAIL PROTECTED] closing > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > this happens with the firewall enabled and disabled. when i try do > download seednodes.ref the "Freenet for Windows support software" crashes. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Uptimes (was DATA STORE)
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 12:02:08PM -0400, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:07, Michael R. Stork wrote: > > > Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is > > just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one > > minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be > > active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. > > Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, > > something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. > > This has come up several times lately, that it takes 10+ hours of > uptime before a node is reasonably integrated into the network. Has > anyone considered that this is problematical when the most commonly > used OS around, Windows, has a mean uptime between crashes shorter > than that? :P LOL. Ignoring the obvious troll, a node should integrate much faster the second time. If you leave a node offline for a week it may take a long time to reintegrate but if you're just restarting it because of a reboot it shouldn't take long. I don't know how this scales when you take a node offline for several hours every day... any reports would be welcome. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] webinterface not available
hi, i run an up-to-date windows version of freenet. the webinterface however is not reachable, the site does not finish loading. in freenet.log i get many errors like this one: Jun 16, 2004 9:29:26 PM (freenet.support.io.NIOOutputStream, YThread-42, ERROR): NIOOS.write(byte[],int,int) timed out.tcp/connection: >127.0.0.1:4569,[EMAIL PROTECTED] closing [EMAIL PROTECTED] this happens with the firewall enabled and disabled. when i try do download seednodes.ref the "Freenet for Windows support software" crashes. any suggestions? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Uptimes (was DATA STORE)
Jay Oliveri wrote: On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:07, Michael R. Stork wrote: Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. This sounds like a bug, and since the thread doesn't specify stable/unstable what conclusion can you come to? You *should* be able to shut down the node and restart it without much of a problem. If someone was in the middle of a transfer from your node, I would expect it gets restarted or drops out. At any rate once the data is in your datastore it will stay there until it's forced out by more recent data. I was running stable and still "announcing my presence" to test the node out, don't know about the other person who brought this up. Irregardless, it has been pointed out by multiple people that until you're had your node up for quite some time, some have said as long as 48 hours, that you're not going to be able to make any connections. I've found this to be very accurate, and even after running for 2 1/2 days up, I was still getting "couldn't get key" and the like errors on most links I clicked. It seemed that they'd either come up almost instantly, or not at all. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Uptimes (was DATA STORE)
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 12:02 pm, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:07, Michael R. Stork wrote: > > Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is > > just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one > > minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be > > active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. > > Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, > > something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. > > This has come up several times lately, that it takes 10+ hours of > uptime before a node is reasonably integrated into the network. Has > anyone considered that this is problematical when the most commonly > used OS around, Windows, has a mean uptime between crashes shorter > than that? :P This is flamebait right? This sounds like a bug, and since the thread doesn't specify stable/unstable what conclusion can you come to? You *should* be able to shut down the node and restart it without much of a problem. If someone was in the middle of a transfer from your node, I would expect it gets restarted or drops out. At any rate once the data is in your datastore it will stay there until it's forced out by more recent data. -- Jay Oliveri GnuPG ID: 0x5AA5DD54 FCPTools Maintainer www.sf.net/users/joliveri ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Uptimes (was DATA STORE)
On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:07, Michael R. Stork wrote: > Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is > just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one > minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be > active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. > Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, > something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. This has come up several times lately, that it takes 10+ hours of uptime before a node is reasonably integrated into the network. Has anyone considered that this is problematical when the most commonly used OS around, Windows, has a mean uptime between crashes shorter than that? :P ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] DATA STORE
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 10:07:02AM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote: > Toad wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:55:08AM -0700, miguel wrote: > > > > > >>What I can't figure is this... > >>When I stop Freenet for whatever reason, and then restart it, it looks > >>to me like it should load some of my previously acquired data and images > >>etc. quickly, getting them from my own datastore. Instead though, here > >>we go again, tapping fingers on desk, going for coffee, taking a nap, > >>going out for a movie, taking a vacation when, upon return, VOILA, I'm > >>back to where I was before restarting Freenet. > >> > >> > > > >What are you complaining about here? Is data being lost from the store > >or are you just annoyed that it takes so long to restart the node? > > > > > Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is > just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one > minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be > active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. > Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, > something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. Hmm. That rather indicates a bug. Do you have storeIndex enabled? How much of the data in question is in store/temp/ ? > > Unfortunately, from what I'm understanding of the rest of your response, > it doesn't sound as if there's anything to be done about this, other > then not restart. Is that a correct interpretation ? > > Mike S. > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] DATA STORE
Toad wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:55:08AM -0700, miguel wrote: What I can't figure is this... When I stop Freenet for whatever reason, and then restart it, it looks to me like it should load some of my previously acquired data and images etc. quickly, getting them from my own datastore. Instead though, here we go again, tapping fingers on desk, going for coffee, taking a nap, going out for a movie, taking a vacation when, upon return, VOILA, I'm back to where I was before restarting Freenet. What are you complaining about here? Is data being lost from the store or are you just annoyed that it takes so long to restart the node? Anytime I've had to restart my node, it appears that the data store is just plain gone. I can go from having my resources at 60+% full one minutes, restart, and I'm at 0. That and it then seems to need to be active again for 10+ hours before clicking on anything is practical. Unfortunately I'm only able to run a transient node at the moment, something I'm working to remedy, and doing so seems almost worthless. Unfortunately, from what I'm understanding of the rest of your response, it doesn't sound as if there's anything to be done about this, other then not restart. Is that a correct interpretation ? Mike S. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] DATA STORE
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:55:08AM -0700, miguel wrote: > Hey there! I have a 6+ gigabyte datastore(yeah, yeah, hold the praise. > Thank you, thank you...) My 3 nodes (usually 1-2 of them are running) have DSs of: storeSize=0.9G (second unstable node used for testing) storeSize=19G (stable node) storeSize=18G (unstable node) But then I get paid for this... :) I know that Iakin has 100GB+ stores on some of his nodes. > What I can't figure is this... > When I stop Freenet for whatever reason, and then restart it, it looks > to me like it should load some of my previously acquired data and images > etc. quickly, getting them from my own datastore. Instead though, here > we go again, tapping fingers on desk, going for coffee, taking a nap, > going out for a movie, taking a vacation when, upon return, VOILA, I'm > back to where I was before restarting Freenet. What are you complaining about here? Is data being lost from the store or are you just annoyed that it takes so long to restart the node? > How can I force my system to look through my own datastore first It does. It's just that not everything that goes through your node is cached. This is because your store is full, so we try to enhance routing by "probabilistic caching". At some point we may implement a local-only cache to supplant the datastore; this would disappear on restart for security reasons. > OR how > can I force my system to put my stuff in my datastore and then go there > to retrieve it before going out on a world cruise for more? Anonymity > issues? What? The stuff I have is all encrypted anyway. > Please help me to force a local search/retrieve first. Anonymity is more complex than "it's all encrypted anyway". We cannot always cache locally requested data, while probabilistically caching everything else, because then an attacker could tell what you've been browsing. We could use a strict LRU for all data, however the simulations suggest that probabilistic caching should improve routing performance by reducing the routing dilution that happens as a result of excessive caching. We DID try turning off pcaching for a while and it didn't help performance. > IS THERE HELP? -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] norton firewall
Really people, can we take the advocacy to chat or private email? Oh and btw, the number of nodes on freenet is ~ 4000-16000. On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:53:38PM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote: > David Masover wrote: > > >>an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for "not doing it your way" > >> > >> > > > >I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid. > > > Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comment, but the first person > who started talking about Linux in this thread did so by implying that > doing anything other then installing Linux was stupid and a waste of > time. If that wasn't you, then you just jumped on the Linux rant after that. > > >>niche that's not going to be supported by the mainstream. And, if it > >> > >> > > > >I suspect that this niche would include much of freenet. If I don't even > >trust my ISP, how am I supposed to trust Microsoft? > > > I NEVER said I trusted Microsoft ! I don't even really like Microsoft, > and I agree that Windows isn't a great OS. What I disagree with is your > assertion that it's possible to do all the same things with Linux as you > can with Windows. Yes, there is more software being produced now that > will run under Linux, but there's no where near the same variety. > > >>ever does take off, and surplant Windows as the standard, then the > >>hackers will just start writing their malicious code to infect it, and > >> > >> > > > >It's already got something like 25-30% of the web server market. Don't > >you think they've been trying? Maybe it's the open-source nature, or the > >engineering of these systems that makes them more secure? > > > > > And ? You're just helping make my point. 25-30% of a small portion of > the total computer market is what in terms of totla number of computers > ? I'm still guessing it's less then 1%. Most of Freenet, how many > Freenet nodes are out there ? 2500 or so ? Again, a small niche market. > I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Linux. I've said several > times now, that I agree that Linux is more secure then Windows, I just > think that using any oppurtunity to try to push it is just plain stupid. > The average computer user, not technician or programmer, is running > Windows. When they ask for help configuring a piece of software, so that > Freenet works ON THIER SYSTEM, telling them to go out and buy another > system to install Linux on, or that they should wipe their existing OS > and run Linux, just so that they can run a Freenet node is moronic. If > you want to expand Freenet, the way to do it is not by making it seem > like the only way to do so is on a Linux system. > > As to responding more intelligently then the ranter, well I'd say that > isn't all that tough to do. What is hard to do is is to have a > reasonable discussion when the other person chops out the majority of > your post, and then responds to a small snippet as if that were it's > entirety. (Yes, I snipped a bunch from this last post, cheifly the more > insulting crap.) > > > ___ > Support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] DATA STORE
Hey there! I have a 6+ gigabyte datastore(yeah, yeah, hold the praise. Thank you, thank you...) What I can't figure is this... When I stop Freenet for whatever reason, and then restart it, it looks to me like it should load some of my previously acquired data and images etc. quickly, getting them from my own datastore. Instead though, here we go again, tapping fingers on desk, going for coffee, taking a nap, going out for a movie, taking a vacation when, upon return, VOILA, I'm back to where I was before restarting Freenet. How can I force my system to look through my own datastore first OR how can I force my system to put my stuff in my datastore and then go there to retrieve it before going out on a world cruise for more? Anonymity issues? What? The stuff I have is all encrypted anyway. Please help me to force a local search/retrieve first. IS THERE HELP? P.S. The recent Linux/Windoze duels, though off the subject, are quite entertaining. I'm rooting for the underpenguin. -- miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
