[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it. It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go offline every 12 hours. (is that a problem?) A Freenet site takes now from 5 to 20 minutes to load, if it loads at all. After much trying, I downloaded Frost, but the interesting part of the manual just won't load, not even through the gateway. I think I got it running correctly, but it doesn't show even one message anywhere, aside from the one I posted myself. Lots of "not found or wrong size" in the DOS box... All in all, I have to say Freenet is a very frustrating experience to a newbie. Is it always this slow, did I do something wrong, or have I picked a bad day? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
"OK, so I tried Freenet... or rather, I'm trying to try it. It's running for about 36 hours now, with pauses because I have to go offline every 12 hours. (is that a problem?) A Freenet site takes now from 5 to 20 minutes to load, if it loads at all. After much trying, I downloaded Frost, but the interesting part of the manual just won't load, not even through the gateway. I think I got it running correctly, but it doesn't show even one message anywhere, aside from the one I posted myself. Lots of "not found or wrong size" in the DOS box... All in all, I have to say Freenet is a very frustrating experience to a newbie. Is it always this slow, did I do something wrong, or have I picked a bad day?" Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think about it yourself!Now, because people are going to ask you these questions anyway (it's a default ;-), I'll ask them for you/them : what build do you use? What OS? What JVM? How many Open Connections do you have? Do you have NAT, are you behind a firewall?The last question will be 'yes' to which the answer will be: 'oh, then it's probably that. You have to punch a whole in your firewall and set the NAT right, and then Freenet will work like a charm (a level-2-in-Morrowind one). There you go! ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:27:44 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: >Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't >believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and >NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you >may think about it yourself! So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet gateways, they were very slow. >build do you use? What OS? What JVM? Win2k, I just downloaded the program complete with the Java machine from http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download "About" says: Version 0.5.2.8 > How many Open Connections do you have? I have no idea. >Do you have NAT, are you behind a firewall?The last question will be 'yes' >to which the answer will be: 'oh, then it's probably that. You have to punch >a whole in your firewall and set the NAT right, and then Freenet will work >like a charm (a level-2-in-Morrowind one). There you go! I only have a software firewall. I've turned it off for now, no difference so far. If the firewall was in the way, wouldn't it block everything, instead of slowing it down? Thanks! Clueless Newbie ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
"So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet gateways, they were very slow." Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a newbie. If you scroll to my earlier posts on devl or support, you will notice I've made EXACTLY the point that for noobs Freenet still sucks, because...well, it sucks. There have been a lot of technical 'improvements' like NIO and NGR, but some of it is dubious, and all of them have not contributed to a faster, better working Freenet - which is often disputed by the Higher Gods, but which is, alas, the truth. Your story isn't an exeption. Recently I tried to insert my flog, and it took about one hour to insert it. But, rest assured, someone will come in and say it works fanfuckingtastic with on his/her puter. But, back into reality-land-with-no-elves-and-fairies, your experience is quite common. Though, in all honesty, I must say with some (well-integrated) nodes, fast lines and time of the month (etc.) you can have some freesites under the two minutes as well. "Win2k, I just downloaded the program complete with the Java machine from" I asked the questions mainly pro-forma: it's what is always asked, but usually the question nor the answer will help much. You got lucky you didn't get it back 'corrupted' like me. Anyway, guess that'll be a 1.4.x JVM version. The version is one thing, the build something else. It should be 5100 (you can see that when you open fproxy), which it probably is. OpenConnections you can see on the start to (left), with fproxy, though you need to go into advance mode (upper right, I believe) first. Well, it's a funny thing, with the firewall. I'm still not very clear about myself. It is supposed to work without a glitch these days; it should handle NAT and firewalls without a glitch...only it sort of doesn't. It works, but it doesn't. I'll let a High God explain that one, but rest assured it's full of 'ifs' and 'thens'. Using UDP might have helped to avoid all that, but ah, details. Anyway, feel free to snoop around at www.freenethelp.org, which has become quite an elaborate helpsitewhich isn't all that surprising, I guess ;-). ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:39:54 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: >Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a >newbie. OIC. :-) >version. The version is one thing, the build something else. It should be >5100 (you can see that when you open fproxy), which it probably is. Yes it is. >OpenConnections you can see on the start to (left), with fproxy, though you >need to go into advance mode (upper right, I believe) first. Oh, that's interesting. Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 89 (43/46/200) Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 41 (19/22) Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little of my bandwidth. BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've given it are not nearly enough. >Anyway, feel free to snoop around at www.freenethelp.org, which has become >quite an elaborate helpsitewhich isn't all that surprising, I guess ;-). Thanks for your help. Well, Freenet seems to be working, or maybe limping... but Frost still doesn't get any messages. Is this program even being used? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Is it always this slow?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clueless schrieb: | Oh, that's interesting. | Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 89 (43/46/200) | Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 41 (19/22) | | Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little | of my bandwidth. Looks good. How did you set your bandwitdh limit? Don't forget, the bandwith limit is set in byte not kByte. | BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've given it | are not nearly enough. 300 MB isn't really much, my small node has 3 GB my big node has 15 GB. | Thanks for your help. Well, Freenet seems to be working, or maybe limping... | but Frost still doesn't get any messages. Is this program even being used? What frost build did you get? The older ones are not compatible to the current node builds, get the latest build from http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net and you should get quite some messages. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBrSij5Sa8EyIJhugRAj7sAJ4tbdZNSoPxrLkf/eBRHm+WZMKV2wCfQL+x oQq9L0wB3Ikz8/3uP60cIiU= =UEOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:53:58 +, Clueless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks for your help. Well, Freenet seems to be working, or maybe limping... >but Frost still doesn't get any messages. Is this program even being used? Which version of Frost are you running? You said in an earlier post that you were seeing error messages on the console and that makes me think that perhaps you are using an outdated version. The latest release was 22-Nov-2004 and you can find it here: http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net (look in the "download" section). Download it, install it and let's see what happens then. Kind regards. -- Jose M. Arnesto j[insert my surname [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:14:52 +0100, Jose M.Arnesto wrote: > Which version of Frost are you running? You said in an earlier >post that you were seeing error messages on the console and that makes >me think that perhaps you are using an outdated version. The latest >release was 22-Nov-2004 and you can find it here: >http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net (look in the "download" section). Ah yes, that was probably the reason. I had downloaded the version from the Freenet Help index, thinking that would be up to date. Ho hum... :-) > Download it, install it and let's see what happens then. Strange things happen: I click on Frost.bat and a window of Java Virtual Machine pops up saying "Could not find the main class. Program will exit!" Well, I'll worry about that tomorrow, thanks and good night! ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
