[freenet-support] Back-Off, or something of which nothing is written
Spam detection software, running on the system "freenetproject.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: As i understand the whole process of back-off, just by observing what is happening with my node: There are two numbers, the first is how much time is left for the node to be backed off. The second is how much time it was backed-off for during this incident. When the first counter reaches 0, then it checks whether it can do things correctly now. If not, it then increases the second number (doubles it?) and then sets the first to that value and waits again. If it can communicate, then it decreases the second number and things operate normally. [...] Content analysis details: (5.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 2.0 FREENET_FROM_BACKUPMX Received from the backup-MX server 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 0.1 DKIM_SIGNEDMessage has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 1.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.5 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS --- Begin Message --- As i understand the whole process of back-off, just by observing what is happening with my node: There are two numbers, the first is how much time is left for the node to be backed off. The second is how much time it was backed-off for during this incident. When the first counter reaches 0, then it checks whether it can do things correctly now. If not, it then increases the second number (doubles it?) and then sets the first to that value and waits again. If it can communicate, then it decreases the second number and things operate normally. I wasn't able to catch how the decrease of the duration happens. And wasn't able to find anything in documentation. Is there something written about it, and i just missed it? I am fine with you just pointing me to the Java class where it happens, i'll read the code. - Volodya -- Помогите собрать средства на написания учебника по программированию: https://boomstarter.ru/projects/volodya/elektronnyy_uchebnik_po_gtkmm_okonnye_pr ilozheniya_v_c --- End Message --- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Back-Off, or something of which nothing is written
As i understand the whole process of back-off, just by observing what is
happening with my node:
There are two numbers, the first is how much time is left for the node to be
backed off. The second is how much time it was backed-off for during this
incident. When the first counter reaches 0, then it checks whether it can do
things correctly now. If not, it then increases the second number (doubles
it?) and then sets the first to that value and waits again. If it can
communicate, then it decreases the second number and things operate normally.
I wasn't able to catch how the decrease of the duration happens. And wasn't
able to find anything in documentation.
Is there something written about it, and i just missed it?
I am fine with you just pointing me to the Java class where it happens, i'll
read the code.
- Volodya
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Re: [freenet-support] Lots of questions about Frost and Thaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/09/2011 10:13 PM, Walter Barnes wrote: > On 12/8/2011 11:06 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote: >> On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:12:01 -0800, Walter Barnes wrote: >>> [...] >>> Do I even need Frost? >> If you want a forum on freenet, then sure, it is one of at least three >> different forum systems. It's a standalone Java program (that operates >> over your freenet node in the background.) FMS is a similar, newer and >> better standalone program, written in C. Freetalk is an even newer >> system, written as a Java plugin to your node, and installed/accessed >> via your node's control panels (normally) -- although I hear it (still) >> has performance issues. > > Thanks Denis but I'm just looking for ways to access Frost message boards. I > have found a freesite for frost that appears to have a version of Frost that's > newer than the one on freenetproject.org. I'll try that one out but I'm still > curious if there is a plugin for Thaw that will access Frost message boards. > > Even if there isn't such a plugin, I think I still need Thaw for file sharing > and I have no idea where to get a recent version. As I mentioned in my > previous > message, the one available for download at freenetproject.org is at least 3 > years out of date. Is there a freesite for Thaw with a more recent version or > where else do I go? > > Thanks, > Walter Thaw's Frost Messanging System plugin was never finished, and i think today it's abandonware. Three-year-old version sounds about right. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO5hOeAAoJENW9VI+wmYasgd8IAIiVsjvDUQMipyt/N9aHKBeR p8MYG4Y2vZD/pV8Z0X6+e2Lm4efgwlYh51qektC7oFLg0kHF0nzaOVYIOYLfQwFM 3Mrsa1pjG1ML5rwNlySeaO9zr471VXP3U74RfdWNaJggAfZ4dCdj6TQzepyOPlkf OQRLPHau61q35OudQkFxM7nKsDAtEOTooahzUv++cbPdwoU6imUg+7ioIzPg203+ ofbi7SEiMz2cJU27RuqbL3RiSb1z5TGx48nzY6KkEsRlDID4rPnQNsTC8GZDsdnJ 58JlFRsa4oCYCkustNa5P9+98QB6JNI3KIV+xhcCxbLXS6ZdTACb7YTQ/B0tX4E= =ErPc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet speed & local threats
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/09/2011 02:26 PM, Chris wrote: > I am looking into setting up a distribution where Tor or freenet is used > to create a secure and anonymous environment for communicating. > > One of the issues with freenet is that it is slow. I haven't used it in > many years and do understand it has gotten much better. I also am aware > that after a few days it gets faster as popular data is retained and gets > 'cached' on your node and nearby nodes based on what those around you are > doing. > > What I'm trying to figure out is what happens when your node is not on > 24/7 and you can only connect infrequently for several hours at a time. > > Many users have a persistent local threat that they need to be aware of. > Leaving a server running is not an option as it could be compromised by an > adversary. > > Removable media can reduce that threat. What I'm looking to find out is if > you run a freenode from a removable media and then run a local server > running freenode to use as one of your peers (which could be on all the > time) does this post a threat? > > If no local server is run that you peer with how is the speed if you only > connect every few days? Is running freenet for a few hours to several > hours going to be sufficient or will it be unbearably slow? > > With Tor speeds are frequently severely limited. Especially with .onion > nodes. Some non-onion servers can be accessed with significant speed > though for sustained periods (15-300... maybe faster). The bigger problem with Freenet isn't really speed, it's the latency (i.e. how long it takes for the data to begin being actually downloaded after request or be uploaded after the insert starts). That part gets better if you are connected after some time. Also you didn't state if you are looking for anonymous publishing or anonymous downloading. If it's for publishing then Freenet will actually be better than Tor for you, since after the user goes offline the content doesn't disappear, and the adversary cannot determine the user simply by looking at patterns in the accessibility. However, if you are looking for something which will protect the user, who cannot run any software for a long period of time and wants to download the material right after going online, then perhaps something like Tor is better (at this time). Of course, what do i know? - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO4h+zAAoJENW9VI+wmYasPPgH/14AOhfo+xW9120RMdxegXYf 81daeoCtFwpYWMKk3flevH9HyjeKdbZymt6sqVq1z90/IPYMz9jXnERKaAGKdegE cm2Sly0Kg6JkJ+e/sQu3nIKkWcKHv3AsNg9rtp1Kd5Qpe4tpau4V221aZiXLkGtA RvBL8pKUBNYBq8k5usxVV9m4jArfIYeUN2xcq+BXXwf5Gi/mC4uvov6WAe5VTTOS Q4bXexqtc1KNnali15uT6EdQqmsac9u/8aVYgeA359etPtHGWvKxyctmpgJuypbS xE7eoiSstA5gibcd8wIKzIrfOhz92WcC4br2qicwnIy77jq6hPNbqrnFMP8D3Rk= =T3EK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] [freenet.uservoice.com] New message: 'could this project be able to help rebui…'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2011 07:59 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:26:32 +, no-re...@uservoice.com wrote: >> Customer Feedback for Freenet Project Inc. >> >> freenet.uservoice.com [freenet.uservoice.com] New Bug Report >> >> sent a message from https%3A%2F% >> 2Ffreenetproject.org%2Flists.html [https%3A%2F%2Ffreenetproject.org% >> 2Flists.html] >> >> >> >> could this project be able to help rebuild the internet in the advent >> of a society breakdown or in an apocylypse > > Yes. I would suggest you start with rebuilding of agriculture and some basic medicine supply. Freenet can't really help with that. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOu1A6AAoJENW9VI+wmYas4twIAK+poOqPCNC9Q+AG9b27841F TruGXYVVl9Osbzvf9xsI3w+g3YcbJLZ7JjdTYaWmn9XnwOAAdxG9Sg/Wt+sQPIUr Zp7ep4cRqd0qAnucbees/vdAajGsa2dQrdxigXojQgJ07iijlBbsNoxW0m8ieOkm IMWM1Xt46oPp8CjwZ4ebXidV0zrAWLTYqziDRQnFvKKc1JyzOtGhpvLxYm6HSUOa DobUpi4JL0KLOFBvp1WVcmfkx0RUrS7uivebTt6So/tF17yHrN3khS2djnwh5vUv xbN9fv1qOnkjo/WVVge8Z21JZRSsZtEIFEQ7LntH279RsiJSMEQO+XaUZQFSM9A= =blTS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Mac OS X (Dual G5 PPC) Java 1.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2011 01:34 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Friday 12 Aug 2011 05:24:38 jimstr wrote: >> Hi - I just want to confirm that I will not be able to run freenet on my >> machine (OS 10.5.8 java 1.5). >> Upgrading to OS 10.6 (snow leopard) is impossible because of the PPC based >> architecture. >> >> Unless freenet can still work with java 1.5?! >> Thanks >> > Yes, Freenet requires java 1.6. You may be able to get it working with > OpenJDK. Failing that I recommend you install a modern linux which supports > PPC. Debian or Gentoo would probably work on it, for example, although I > doubt Ubuntu supports it, and the first two distros are a bit geeky. Running > a network connected system with no security updates is always a bad idea. Last Ubuntu which did PPC was 6.06, but it's quite old, and you will have hard time installing java which is not OpenJDK there if you are not geeky enough to work with Debian. > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOURoTAAoJENW9VI+wmYasrrQH/1XrkvY5fbhEZTcv1dXtg2fK rFMlJReUBCIiyyxavg/eceGWbE+ax4pHiBShbHK/f/k2iqzn6lvau/0+UumLJJmo XWTnbV3u3+f8OQMrs9C30wTIPGjuH/O4lbLT7lkwECmRkpE058omCG+3ARHMg3IL C9osNKcCpSglyv6QCXzt3C6dp9mfugLkdhqK4BcOR2BLZOGFgTGp1DTB6so3sxh7 iknz6QDuplQQJqNj3ycV33fUDk7Bg6RZujnFz8FlcsvlVV8iiGI+fPMe3hUKuOvy jMUXddofDUBGKbSLmkjjLiI7WNiFKzxNaRYQKOVmBX3L6nIlBEuRhhE3Y/10K2Y= =Xk61 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Wondering about darknets security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2011 05:28 PM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:15:35 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> Basically, you are vulnerable to your peers (those other freenet >> nodes your node connects to). They know your IP address - they have >> to to connect to you. They can identify you. As you rightly point >> out, your peers can also, with a fair bit of work, and on various >> plausible assumptions, identify much of what you are doing on >> Freenet. > > When will premix routing and tunneling and onion routing be implemented? Who will authenticate the key of the node that you tunnel to? Your peer can make you believe that it is a whole tunnel. Even if you use two peers and then try to find a common friend of a friend of a friend... you are still making some big assumptions. So as i see it tunnelling can only guarantee safety when you 100% trust your friends not to spy on you, and in that case you don't really need it. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOM63iAAoJENW9VI+wmYasABwH/iYO+b++xZkuqkCvEjVPboIY EePNAyUyZr8hfKoyIhP0ZCDxIlM0/QqCJhZq/sW710ob+KH0JkLBKquTrohLnVqX BAoloQoqa+9ncMZ1rnzVSdj0AfdFMM+XWvf796AQ0TRcfbA4BDupB7hRHG3bmFz1 zNVyQC+79hGl5ujU2/GwOmpq0YLFn1qBG8TgOvmWMo1Wy9gMcVKR80N2o0dI+lfS SWLBKsVwGn+pFvMwQuv9BYV5wSlz5NK0b5n3qHNXtECxfqG3sdkiHv4LsDv2Z3mv NZtVJzAt7BxqiATjTECGOMMKuHUco7/mixt4WRm6+hfYDhRexFz1TOes+ywaeCE= =UsCz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Wondering about darknets security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2011 10:08 AM, BoBeR wrote: > One question about darknets > in a darknet only net > where lets say its 10 people > can they see stuff like linkarmageddon and other freesites or only the > content they share on the darknet? > if one node became a opennet hybrid will they be able to get to the rest > of freenet and freesites? You can only see the content that you can connect to through other people's nodes. Therefore if you set up an island darknode then only the content that these nodes insert will be visible (you won't even have autoupdates). However, once one or more people start connecting to the global darknet or opennet, others will be able to see the 'global' content through the bridge nodes (hopefully). - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOMpxdAAoJENW9VI+wmYasxUQH/1FLlfbVsTtg9pLI3FVgBZof eI4zodp1G4lxOY226kmX+xvT6cMyhvAnP45rsUv2MYTejKcmva3qwuGlIJPA5SRe YAX4NwKRdWht8BanwpXNJXTBJ8avhgZ2FFyfEIce8rIxPJ4auhcIwc2MfaYUBTGg 0io4aRrqsOWfr1efEpFujivSVLDhNAf1EcQirjEp//d1I0DiM9tmwD9vNAu0Ll90 /GJHaQXUuediMtug/MpoNfb/AboGTHcOuTCNYRRAKIBPNKZSUdfHJobBFj4TQ/tS wcopZF6JH2buFEefpiwHGyFegQQj+Xu/YEGZ27ukKH7SNn4kcTVLWEVNE71KlRQ= =khG7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] How much disk space is acceptable?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/2011 03:20 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We need to deal with out of disk space better than we do now. We should have > two limits: > Lower limit: If we have less than this amount, Freenet shuts everything down, > and tells the user to free up some disk space. > Upper limit: If we have less than this amount, Freenet attempts to free some > up via e.g. defragging the persistent-temp blob files more enthusiastically. > > If the computer we are installing on has a relatively small amount of space > (e.g. within a factor of 2 of the default upper limit), we should ask the > user for the thresholds. But we need some sane defaults. What is sane? > 5GB/1GB? 1GB/0.5GB? This may be different for different operating systems > (Windows/Linux/Mac) ... > > Also, long term, it may be possible to use multiple datastores to > automatically adjust our disk usage. In which case two new policies are > possible: > - Use X% of my available disk space (probably with a lower limit). > - Ensure that X GB are available for my files at all times. Won't it be completely useless on any file system which also has the reserved space parameter? You may have 50G free on the 1T filesystem, but if 5% is the reserved space, that means that you are out of disk space for everybody but the root (and some other predefined) users. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOMmVKAAoJENW9VI+wmYasMiQIAMPJSMC87kcZNNQlYjOgBXn8 MYf6ItB7l3pj2nvd9vQk5+yo1ZoADpqLjwBcN1s/ZgGuzYYkMtM14pI8oBc6+NHB JWATbV7oL4hiX7B3cK8o50+4wE5vnv7n20NxDRlRR6rtAVhFeBSG3N791A92eBqh 8gdbLv3kSdYWJ48J+Tdruyygv8YBLV6AKyA2BG08+dwb74VZX3EcHESjtL4iIsta HvonFu/KlUsgm17aXzZOgcdp/uiPV23Rt8QjVdlAJp9LD5LbhXum3F+fP+Pe3lE1 Zep1Nd84OYmPzZpbblA2+xct4q9LBJtk7iqLZX8eF/4sE13LmDpqPsmb+9NcnHw= =EfCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Help! Comments have disappeared
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, i do not know how this went to this address. - Volodya -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnwMSAAoJENW9VI+wmYasMEQH/RPtSDYdEBVITpHFoRIgUwfx 35nq8JVtXcA1cQ+xu3Y0rfW2DTvXwPvzah4EELOlxENvRSYS1Xu2vUqSv84QprCq LoqGPhkvWBP7wblx4DkXX4cg8R7PtQhmg8wWJyehmXsZaNAij5CIP9iteze0NbmY HU9wmXddao4IMSQROpk1UIlKJ6FG/tYtGEg7/ec/qsMmtTyRo/+VupohYN5EtZrg mDPMKFXt9ZFHEvwi2v43DuNRvD9RuXkiZTrIL7468p1C/Usd/GD10123Kgr+cQcU HGH2saXiypCONUGtwAuQ9VDYxUz3gT4cAVXtCnXzD9n6Ku+RfK4vmUHVkBBnxoM= =mQAG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Help! Comments have disappeared
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please help, Comments ability has disappeared from my show's page. I have relied on comments for people to contact me. I was even willing to deal with spam (ok, it was getting hard, but i was patiently moderating everything). - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnwB3AAoJENW9VI+wmYas2JkIALOlpaCEqZSU5IFzzPz9WiEA KEBqgN0Li/0uN5/xNEZgpjxPaL/PaGg2eNu3WqgVnwuWO5QVmMMmgIrEorR2VzgC x2qqJg6E4KZXZsgxB0qwAgeJ2vdCHRqmg73d1EX8S/t50GJzv2E07oIY4g//QYIt wvh/cG9CHUBzXbHetaLZGbLfTBRQjsaRproVsqDe+E5UwQXzsTI0o1XVxI9W0guA GywDVF0uEc3tma1am3EEvKZMXkjQvzyBLtj/qKLpJkFJ+hL7h0dGbRHQuljck68+ /H38GHHAjExBpQw0VxrktmIcB2lINML0MDGV2SNWVtz+w3bGe08TQbrBoMkoC88= =DVl+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freetalk is out! (build 1360)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/2011 04:57 PM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:36:43 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> Freetalk and WebOfTrust are now loadable from the Plugins page on the >> fproxy web interface. > > Can it communicate with FMS? No. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNk2VyAAoJENW9VI+wmYasXg4H/R8D5c3AoTtVc7kDujzLmum+ EYhlmNlB2Me3v2mC/cWjZsJlzeAlwy9Fnqw2N0iGdFURJZKwmQZ1zqYwdF2u8ht5 2V8oKUqazF4Ownze8fGQtIu1EVLUXlmlC/32hDSZDlbP6nnnrFycOvKeL968fLZC rV04PJyysWXm6r25nhkcFHzRYMr1N0Jr85h5zqER6uPLqZWxxPGl6AlW8plHpOPv 6YC9NjKB4c8B2GlVDBxtiLazR9bIJbhYh2z7bOcGrt1yko51+NEWvr0RxqxiNkQE YjzWhhYL3w+K7JQpLTlNdaKRii+CwyByOC29Mq6or4VVuprKtfJyo/ZsQlUst7w= =AGYb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Null Pointer when deleting the identity in WoT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/2011 12:46 PM, Volodya wrote: > java.lang.NullPointerException > at plugins.WebOfTrust.Identity.equals(Identity.java:669) > at java.util.HashMap.get(HashMap.java:305) > at > plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.computeAllScoresWithoutCommit(WebOfTrust.java:701) > at > plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.deleteWithoutCommit(WebOfTrust.java:1201) > at plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.deleteIdentity(WebOfTrust.java:1987) > at > plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.DeleteOwnIdentityPage.make(DeleteOwnIdentityPage.java:31) > at > plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterfaceToadlet.java:69) > at > plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterface$DeleteOwnIdentityWebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterface.java:225) > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) > at > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) > at > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) > at > freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:544) > at > freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:875) > at > freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:227) > at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130) > > I did some more looking around: To reproduce: 1. create identity with the character '!'. 2. try to delete that identity 3. You will get the exception mentioned above. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNkvGQAAoJENW9VI+wmYasiwMH/3uvSrcSfSnxNfpetEe6Hjnr lx7rYdD0tGYAELyhwmg0iNG8UR8ljUbWQL/568O4ZKhauQNa6exNlDSrwldTHgeu ffYhKenl5MVj2VNRXp027T2TKo62apFieuCE24naVOQMnlySfzCj2dHXK+A5GexA Td1+b8fhBgsCM8TS6lslFET8LuCOS38X/+sRDdvu89c4XR/IAVGkCgDsmdmgA8Ce eeybdCMHj+eDv+uNaV7F1b5D9qF5Y5so5zptE2hOLYdkSIVe3nHJ8o2icOhfjCC3 bmALjndz0t8bX4NSti/p61SRFqwByu+wwzmEsfCw8GC3k0Kpljtj2vY7kLu7oYs= =l1W6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Null Pointer when deleting the identity in WoT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 java.lang.NullPointerException at plugins.WebOfTrust.Identity.equals(Identity.java:669) at java.util.HashMap.get(HashMap.java:305) at plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.computeAllScoresWithoutCommit(WebOfTrust.java:701) at plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.deleteWithoutCommit(WebOfTrust.java:1201) at plugins.WebOfTrust.WebOfTrust.deleteIdentity(WebOfTrust.java:1987) at plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.DeleteOwnIdentityPage.make(DeleteOwnIdentityPage.java:31) at plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterfaceToadlet.java:69) at plugins.WebOfTrust.ui.web.WebInterface$DeleteOwnIdentityWebInterfaceToadlet.handleMethodPOST(WebInterface.java:225) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:544) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:875) at freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:227) at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130) - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNku3zAAoJENW9VI+wmYasHgkIALcqLo3c9qIg0cOBi9LApHh9 CV/7s0PCz2NmdeT0O7jvCeYusURXj7dl+7nph80rI0Sao+wevhq0u+PMccVZ/GER /yA/SXRKfOz3JH8KNBBYfNk4XvEm+MVLz/9zdhnPdo1zsa/IwFxS6aN0r4RPfreB vQYQpgEnOUfnP0tAN0WGD3IG5cfm0iDFSdpDrOdOs8IdNZ+HZlJYkJxVnhkemk5U mchzNgep0yV6OMh6whb3beNlJhO9sNAGe+PA5aA1OQDkDImcoYS8yXpZ+tpjE3+3 xhH1MRSr3l0i3p9eHOpO/5ROcmBNQW2fDNo+/hNBeKVXG7/0NAVANC78xsl22iE= =berb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] couple of questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> There are 2.5 current independent forum systems in the wild. FMS, >>> Freetalk and Frost. They work well. (FMS the best. /me ducks/ :). >> >> I looked at it but I find it a little tricky: it seems it not only >> downloads the headers of the postings but the content as well. That way it >> also downloads all kinds of kiddy porn which, of course, I don't want to >> have. > > Not true. At worst it downloads messages containing links to all kinds of > evil content - if said messages are posted by people who are visible on your > WoT. (I.e. have positive message trust). > > HOWEVER, Frost DOES at least potentially download actual evil content: an > anonymous spammer can force all Frost users subscribed to a board to download > any CHKs he wants. Frost is seriously broken. Not strictly true. If we are talking about US/Britain then text story can be classified as 'child pornography' (or 'kiddy porn' as it was called above). As such any software that is used to communicate can be forced to download child pornography without your knowledge. In fact the very e-mail client you are using can be abused in such a way. Imagine the scenario where somebody signs up to this e-mail list and posts pornographic story involving somebody who can be argued to be under the age of 18, your client will download this (it has no way to contact a lawyer before downloading each message). Frost currently uses an old system (that is going to change) which does allow an attacker to post small bits of any files as a message. Theoretically you will be downloading, although frost won't recognise such file as a valid message in the end. That was one of the ways that attacks were done on Frost. The intention currently seems to be to allow frost to communicate via Freetalk mechanisms. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNYhYQAAoJENW9VI+wmYasJicH/0l46+5e7F2Ai1aHkVqDIycp lC9pfGW1/JaGoGikkXQ+IeCLuQgmfwKl27JSlUOd2Wyxp8V9hSmd+ndEr136Jgbt nQ0/7UVYx0NK3sK8M6xj12fXsH4GZYqNggzo0CtNdrhq5SK8G/y/xBC2mY1WcueR +GtO55yQc4tYEaiX9oAPHrb2x9M3/lKZSDqXb3KqS15sxYHE5ALwgfLx70Enq9A2 Tflb1NJxifuDr9aAlGKZi9HqpeEV6CBA5gtX9YlY6Z1xc5XByrYvDNmqvsYYIo7m 2I0XgxcpVIFgcW6xYoCiOXcq5G579t2wzTk2ysLjBMuWrM/+VFOQXgNETJIf2Cc= =n/Dt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] italian language translations
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> How can install and use Frost? Please the answer may be the instructions step
> by
> step, as you are speaking with a child.
You didn't say which Operating System you are using, so i will be generic.
You need to go to http://jtcfrost.sf.net/ and download the frost archive.
You then unpack this archive, and start it (either by running frost.sh or by
running frost.bat depending on the operating system).
After starting it will ask you to chose an identity. You need to create one, but
you will be able to create more after it starts.
Once started you go to Language -> Italian, and frost will be in Italian.
- Volodya
- --
http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast
"None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
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Re: [freenet-support] Login with Mac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2011 01:56 AM, Fritz Franklin wrote: > Hello, > > I downloaded Freenet 0.7 for Mac, registered as a new user and so forth. Then > I > exited Foxfire. When I wanted to login and open Freenet again, I couldn't > figure > out how. All I could find was the download page, but the software is already > downloaded. The Rabbit Tray icon doesn't do anything when I click on it, and I > don't see another way to open Freenet. Could you please advise me how to > login/open Freenet on my Mac computer? Thank you. > > Fritz Open the browser, and go to http://localhost: If you will see something that means Freenet is running. If you do not you'll need to start up the service. But i don't know how to do that in Mac. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNV3LKAAoJENW9VI+wmYasVeoH/20n3VdjHb/ySsUrwS9iZl+l s6Xkn3Ip6vR0KqQA1HCVaQXhylDJxF5pxnxseNKMX+YVU+/qsi5KSAY4GhQC8i+F wqrdWdJJBE7ROHAKfm5JACvZE6kWlvXt8DAvTrgNmu4Y3feTp+REfLnM7L2PYfco wPm9jh/WGdTWuGNItEnw2Ozl1zAYYCECA/WwmBug5QJdphANDMASNUyHOFPEHRae s355X/jVHgonDk1/fc66BsX0ByY/85btKHoHi+m9PjfJkn4UfyFptwX9ewiPadmP 906NAO7jQZs5PqE86gzQHf2YpYpC3lQX00WiQap426lQvI/HItvAlB0vqzH8bZg= =PsIT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Question about freenet DHT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/2011 01:19 PM, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I am very new to freenet. I read wiki[1] and some doc saying that > freenet implements dht protocol. > > I am going to learn something about dht based on freenet, so I have a > few questions. > > 1st, is it possible for a node (supposed it is located in a data > center) querying to know if other nodes contain a specific data/ doc > (maybe search by e.g. file name)? So the node who issues the query > can, for instance, do a simple counting, such as how many nodes > currently holds the filename called license.txt. > > 2nd, what would the right place (in source code) to start checking the > dht related stuff? I check out the source code but do not find dht > related comment or function. Also, freenet wiki search returns `no > matches for dht'. > > I appreciate any advice. > Thank you. > > > [1]. Wikipedia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table#DHT_protocols_and_implementations That's not how Freenet works. Everything that is inserted in the global datastore is first encrypted and error correction is added, it also splits everything into 32K pieces each of which is inserted separately. Therefore it is impossible to search Freenet proper for DHT hash of the specific file. Because you only have pieces which are encrypted, and you don't know what they mean until you have enough of them and you have also the decryption key. Now if you do possess the decryption key, you could, on the Opennet, start connecting to people's nodes one at the time and send them requests for pieces that you know comprise that file. There's much more, maybe others will help you also. - volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNU90oAAoJENW9VI+wmYasfIgH/3vlQUd2dg8ODm4f6SURDjfG /bDRwjNHnkRsWBvYAT8fTno8wDem++IPLWSBUGcU8IzCgfXKHTy9W/1ebhKJ2bQG QHBs4qOtSxGtgwi1wQ8SQweUkcp++16ViLxQm/waULIeDE8tfxSTT1aWdvV0fd+S Tz4dY7jjvPa/b6AQ0YABF8z7FMOBNGYcXTJrHDveGCQeTAuVcXMSUBbauiGq4VoS jqoinmr92f8BlhcVL/0pv9RmQkFbud51F2rflLes13aZ/nGwh4uT0kStz2fiZwHJ yJFcBVDhUnXnMQJSItSr7TbcrVSGkiUHaUzkuEh8kpaj+sE7hR/o3VhBLVHqX+4= =lUj2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1339
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/29/2011 04:54 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Build 1339 is out. Please upgrade asap, it will be mandatory on Monday. The > main change in this build is that backoff is now separate for realtime versus > bulk requests. This means, hopefully, that if the performance problems > recently have been caused by realtime requests causing lots of backoff, this > will only affect realtime requests. It is investigating a theory, one of > several, regarding the recent problems. > > I am sorry that the network has behaved so badly recently, I am working on > it, but it is not easy. > > Please upgrade, and please report any and all problems you find. There is a > thread on FMS where I am trying to get a better understanding of what > problems people are seeing. So far the main reported issues seem to be: > - Realtime requests (e.g. fproxy) are slow, and cause all or most peers to > get backed off. > - Downloads are very slow. > - Bootstrapping onto the network is slow. > > Thanks! > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe - From [freenet] board. - - fry@a3pdIbytnvYVKOz_Qa8SZLRKu0o - 2011.01.29 - 14:57:29GMT - Build 1338 was great. Would connect to 40 peers, download speed was fast. Build 1339 will connect to 16 out of 40 peers, with half backed off. :-( I downgraded back to 1338, and it immediately picked back up my 40 peers. My network is properly forwarding my Opennet port. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNRFktAAoJENW9VI+wmYasqkkH/1ngO/256kpu7/GK0whGUpcT n6iSO1cyqpxT0kOS2HoJT7aULZGpcTQ+WfjeFUjCMsNLnOQaMvd4FzxQlqtTdqW+ h+MNsSmE3HQd95r6nSVMSfMLMh658hpj31Yv8U4ro3UwsoNG5jgHyapu3hoTldUd ql5XDXSGG3gKN4k70eLU6laOOIZv3J0kdUmIB/g5Fb+Z88ygzERHsxNrxJigIMoZ rU/C6JYq+WEkICZOjNzae29co3mJxQVPTiqOLpyyk7BNPlHu7bSKk9+oCYoSs0B+ m9PkoYYiajM1PZpCO/lUFHcZu2Za/w665sz8XPQndQW+z7zxuTC6AzoJ4pshVWA= =Yt4Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1334
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> Please describe the formula through which to calculate the speed of >> the data that you need to send to your peer, which has 19 other peers >> (and you have no knowledge about the speed with which they are >> transmitting). > > Simple: > > for i in output-bandwidth > for j in list-of-peers > if > send > end > end > > In other words, the main thing is I have to explicitly say I am > expecting stuff, and that there is an explicit timeperiod beyond which > other peers should not continue sending me stuff, without my saying > it's ok. > > Similarly, on the receiving end, I will only read packets from peers on > my connected-list. (Yes, this is kindof like wasting bandwidth and > dropping precious packets ... but remember this is AFTER we give our > flooding peer ample time to settle down -- aka. this is bordering on > malicious / ddos behavior.) I think that would make the problem much worse: Scenario: You have a spike of CPU useage and your node receives little packets over 1 minute. It calculates how much it could have received more and sends all its peers request to almost entire bandwidth. Then the CPU spike ends and it gets swamped with about 20 times the download limit of packets. It then starts dropping packets because it considers this an attack, hurting not only its ow self, but others in the process. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNOmXTAAoJENW9VI+wmYasxOoH/04L3eIdl5+CATH9Bti08qef 2wEdQcqCVeBJ9Mc8aubMBcvq/GuqsELWB5XuzQoyQ0XS9RLp2J+iUGiAtkOvegER FKIQtp2jCPLArQ03voIN0mzTF6NH955th6y5BdCG22Zw4MCNNO/ykHC+fFXKoFPC LsCY0nAIZ9EH2c84KIIDb3nYbtljmgNvBeKcYr5KUNLpwehE2meUfBVdYNS0e4fL O2KY3KC1tpRNP9R2x5eI+1DsdMiUhhE/Dpq6ilnvdi8R7JooN/eefW3WqhqFOgXS XuG0cZEn5IHr7fqyFpgHmcTBBl2ehGVk3GwcWNgCCFJmwxWbyEBtX73T97+oL9o= =Hxhy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1334
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/2011 10:32 PM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:22:13 +1300, Phillip Hutchings wrote: >>> So, the question then becomes, when the node is clearly receiving >>> more packets than it's supposed to, why is it taking so long (many >>> minutes >>> -- I never actually waited to see if the flood, which consumed my >>> entire connection's 80KiB/sec capacity, would eventually subside) >>> for the rate to stabilize? How much time does the node give it's >>> peers to stabilize their traffic, before it disconnects from them? >>> And does the node accept packets from peers it is not currently >>> connected to? (Ie. say we give our peers 1minute to get their s*** >>> straight, and then disconnect from them, I should see the flood end >>> in 1 minute?) >> >> Mostly because development capability is limited by available people >> and testing capabilities - without a dedicated lab setup it's very >> hard to test bandwidth limiting, so the only real test is on the >> network. >> >> I'm sure fixing this is on the list somewhere, but we either need to >> pitch in and code it or wait for someone else to have time. > > I'm curious, though, as to what the node currently does. (To bring us > back to the original question of this thread.) (Yes, I should just look > at the code myself.) Surely it does something like I just described > above? And surely that's a simple thing? (When you refer to testing, > you're probably referring to fine-tunning the above parameters to > maximize efficiency ... which is all good ... except even without such > testing, I don't see why it should take many minutes for flow to > stabilize -- unless our grace-period for overflowing nodes is many > minutes long?) Please describe the formula through which to calculate the speed of the data that you need to send to your peer, which has 19 other peers (and you have no knowledge about the speed with which they are transmitting). - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNOeoUAAoJENW9VI+wmYas5M4IAJtcV0CNJAKaAbAifds9dtTi mVMfwrBmAAs64pYrMZJe6ib2c/JBuh4XATFu1Dj6VMdtwVz0Pp3lxMDqdytQ5eTm P8lbo2kXuWG8MDdRxFKOKnuVv4mNA3GH3EN9Zh9DyON30G63uRL6epm8nypsuo39 m7l7vOmrqmsmBNifjRcaoo/IJcKIv6mHWCulqwgAc//ytWnvOhAlpuAcL1ca+Qo4 ry/VtEH0v1d3opDIBxxgvSj49Z53Q/2iUhpQXcU/0EAXU9IqyxdFBkkMIwtSgWgs ct98GnR2z8TQo/rBV7uc+3Ue4y4JlsNyeEU59hN1yAWJF/CG6D2JDh2DSLK1RUg= =0Oah -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1327 (small, preparatory)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/16/2011 08:33 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:00:08 +0300, Volodya wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> (Off topic hand waving, how hard is it, honestly, to have a counter >>> on each incoming packet, and to only accept inputBandwidthLimit per >>> second? (And perhaps to add clever debugging messages, for now, if >>> the node is ever seen significantly exceeding this limit?)) >> >> How do you count the bandwidth? >> >> Packets are discrete while bandwidth is continuous. >> >> Let's say that you have a bandwidth limit of 5 KiB per second; now >> imagine that a packet comes in that is 42 kilobits, if you download >> that packet in less than a second, you have gone over your limit. But >> you cannot slow down half way through a packet. >> >> You have said that you do not think that Freenet should average >> things out, but that is the only way to move from discrete to >> continuous math while preserving any sense of sanity. > > True. Are Freenet's packets that big? (Smaller packet sizes would be > one solution for better bandwidth management.) I guess the discrete > spikes aren't really a problem though, but rather those massive and > continuous flows that swamp my connection -- as if the packet counter > suddenly decided to stop working altogether, or something. I have just given an example, it had little to do with Freenet packet size. Still what i was pointing towards is that you need to average things out over some period of time. Perhaps the problem is in something different, but it could be that it selects some time period that is too large or too small. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNMpjAAAoJENW9VI+wmYasuf4H/0qUPAfEEYIKAWfdaweVlZCv dqTShmmNur1eQ+96ZWxTI0qbQ1+vYe774l25m0dAK9uds4nK+v0G+duDRhUdrkMY wSwOsfDXMqkyg7WgI4D9IIzer0nJoUJAfYhjrpwRA7fhX3OQJQizyMdEhL34bc4f 3kUe6ItH1A3ZYdpxdrp3TsRiT2hiciWimmqV2+D+P1aMK5ZBVxAPdY7qUgA1UpOh MSAhmfSLfQQOJrbdwejfO5eftNhYgMyrAuYPXCAkb3GNL1IPTE54eQ0BcMlPOpmj jfp1IgrHHDmNP7fVDOn7goxf5Vn/v3rIVdHXTTgbyUlh46EFC7h4/J6Ka+gKa3E= =WaFe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1327 (small, preparatory)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > (Off topic hand waving, how hard is it, honestly, to have a counter on > each incoming packet, and to only accept inputBandwidthLimit per > second? (And perhaps to add clever debugging messages, for now, if the > node is ever seen significantly exceeding this limit?)) How do you count the bandwidth? Packets are discrete while bandwidth is continuous. Let's say that you have a bandwidth limit of 5 KiB per second; now imagine that a packet comes in that is 42 kilobits, if you download that packet in less than a second, you have gone over your limit. But you cannot slow down half way through a packet. You have said that you do not think that Freenet should average things out, but that is the only way to move from discrete to continuous math while preserving any sense of sanity. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNMntRAAoJENW9VI+wmYasYEMH/1PK+Ea33qJZRGDEvFbktznX MRzyXFT/GYH3KTPQvD/aHcKcN81Rtc3aVCY1sHJzkdb2SmeSoV1Kilyd/Iw2kcl5 lk4HNd+to7XBQcsggBBPYMMV5I/GGQDdI1DYAbOmkcU+B7oTElCEktsI4PcyGNbk 7lBViMjqFYnhZhQDM3dqsJv6ik5WqHIS5DY3OD8b/C3ngERm3Au9pFBw8HGWwve9 stSrFhideHkjpSaaeoJMEt1L0cEDH42Mr6LO4eO1UdLnM8aG3khUXxvrPxylN8Kb WjI27kJc3DMnCefgL2xrtahjUVgTjBIJUgmTLIDLY3dFcnhlQl0C4jHfQf2QGjk= =eYnE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Route Not Found error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2010 08:43 AM, Skinner Family wrote: > REF: Freenet 0.7.5 Build 1308 > > Running on Win Xp Home SP3 > > Running behind a Motorola SBG900 Modem / Wireless Router NAT > > > > Dear Support: > > I installed Freenet 24 hours ago and continue to get the Route Not Found > error. > I’ve read the Wiki and opened the Opennet FNP (46185), FProxy (), and FCP > (9481) ports on my router and windows firewall. I also forwarded the Opennet > port plus I set port triggers for all three ports on the router (seemed like a > good idea). So far none of this has helped. You do not need to forward FProxy and FCP unless you are planning to access your home node from outside of your home... i.e. from some other computer (which can be dangerous and compromise your anonymity under many situations). When you have port-forwarded it usually asks you which type of traffic, did you made sure to chose UDP and not TCP? I use DLink router, and after some time running Freenet it needs to be restarted (turnt off, and after about 40 seconds turnt back on). I suspect it's due to something in it not liking prolonged UDP traffic, or maybe it's something else. - Volodya > Looking at the log, there is the same recurring theme: > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 22:59:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:00:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:00:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:01:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:01:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:02:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:03:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:04:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:04:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:31 | Trying to connect to some > seednodes... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:40 | Could not find the STUN server > stun.fwdnet.net : java.net.UnknownHostException: stun.fwdnet.net - DNS > problems? > Trying another... > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | Successful STUN discovery from > stun.softjoys.com!:Network interface: eth0 > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | Local IP address: 192.168.0.19 > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | Result: Firewall blocks UDP or > server > down. > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | Public IP: unknown > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | likely detections: 0 unlikely > detections 0 remaining 0 > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | STUN failed: likely detections=0 > unlikely detections=0 > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | Found interface MTU: eth0 : 1500 > > INFO | jvm 1| 2010/12/05 23:05:51 | STUN failed to detect IP addresses > > > > This repeats over and over. > > > > > > My observations / questions: > > (1) My browser (Firefox) work fine, so I know I can get on the internet (I > assume HTTP port 80). > > (2) I know nothing about forwarding ports, but I set as the start port > and > 46185 as the end port – traffic is allowed both ways. > > (3) The log says something about the firewall blocking UDP or the server > being > the problem… I can turn off the windows firewall if that will help. > > (4) I can turn off the router firewall which opens all the ports but would do > so only briefly to help diagnose the problem. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM/IL4AAoJENW9VI+wmYaskOMH/0YAHxNsaco+Kb5VK3Gqqe1U +jZpUWDYD9yw9hAsHBGBqbocdKKKoFazsB+gDkEN
Re: [freenet-support] Never finishing downloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2010 01:35 AM, stefan.weni...@gmx.net wrote: >> - - Camel Tip t...@ja1ursbo1wwdywciflapkstdchu - 2010.12.05 - >> 16:00:09GMT - >> >> Looks like no one else has this problem, at least I don't see any >> complaints like this one: since version 1306 (I think) all my downloads >> end up at 100% without ever finishing. > > Since I updated to 1308, I had 3 downloads (started with 1307) which > then needed 2 days to get from 99.9% to finished, and there are 2 more > now sitting at 99.8% and 99.9% with "last activity 2d22h ago / 3d3h > ago" ... . > I do not get any error messages, though, but in the log file there are > tons of strange entries like ... : > "Dez 05, 2010 22:22:19:265 (freenet.client.async.ClientRequestSelector, > CHK Request starter (60940)(8), NORMAL): Priority 1 (transient) is in > cooldown for another 9223370745267036542 15250282316w6d : > freenet.support.sectoredrandomgrabar...@10debae" > ... if that is a 15250282316 week cooldown, it's not surprising the > downloads are never finishing ;-) > > > And then there are exceptions like ... : > Dez 05, 2010 22:22:17:609 > (freenet.support.SectoredRandomGrabArrayWithObject, SSK Request starter > (60940)(12), NORMAL): Too many sub-arrays are entirely excluded on > freenet.support.sectoredrandomgrabarraywithobj...@102994c:freenet.client > s.http.bookmark.bookmarkmana...@456c5c length = 22 > java.lang.Exception: error > at > freenet.support.SectoredRandomGrabArray.removeRandomLimited(SectoredRand > omGrabArray.java:231) > at > freenet.support.SectoredRandomGrabArray.removeRandom(SectoredRandomGrabA > rray.java:147) > at > freenet.support.SectoredRandomGrabArray.removeRandomTwoOnly(SectoredRand > omGrabArray.java:312) > at > freenet.support.SectoredRandomGrabArray.removeRandom(SectoredRandomGrabA > rray.java:143) > at > freenet.client.async.ClientRequestSelector.removeFirstInner(ClientReques > tSelector.java:361) > at > freenet.client.async.ClientRequestSelector.removeFirstTransient(ClientRe > questSelector.java:175) > at > freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler.getBetterNonPersistentReques > t(ClientRequestScheduler.java:401) > at > freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler.grabRequest(ClientRequestSch > eduler.java:494) > at freenet.node.RequestStarter.realRun(RequestStarter.java:133) > at freenet.node.RequestStarter.run(RequestStarter.java:223) > at > freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:227) > at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130) I had a file which i have downloaded, and then accidentally removed the result. Anyhow i have tried to redownload it (i have cache local requests on, so it's pretty quick), but it for the second time keeps "Internal Error"ing at 98%. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM/HgGAAoJENW9VI+wmYaslKYH/iIwEJPOP5fA8ZCYkyGRoRmD QuFhWblhHwa/9ZFd569wXNQHN56CKwLvmrpCxykyibqaj/MbUVeucl4EmZ7n0o23 R4PleQPU0+Xu7m0D1sf8q7zri9JDANKJrkKrmwogFevFuOzV2FT9ALOAEWqASZ1n dnLRVNYbOJf4W1msYQlU5zZngYkEYAwn2CAmifq5v+L4uVbaSBej4hlW99UwUJQg 7p4Q9ZLgD5RO1+ID55z9eO2WYEwABwn0Ljvlv0Q6moPwCZQorfM+U81Bp3I9I0FE x90NlrTRNf7gMVr6u3NE3vrg+NG1NGIVgJWZtNwuFPlLQRbYpZFPsQ8aN82FcYo= =fACa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Never finishing downloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Camel Tip t...@ja1ursbo1wwdywciflapkstdchu - 2010.12.05 - 16:00:09GMT - Looks like no one else has this problem, at least I don't see any complaints like this one: since version 1306 (I think) all my downloads end up at 100% without ever finishing. Whether I use Frost, Fuqid or fproxy. And as many as I allow simultaneously. Fproxy sais 'data available' but that is of little use if all I can achieve is 'internal error'. Using the silly download roundclick options of fproxy I can salvage a jpeg but all rars, avi's etcetera give me an internal error at best. Any suggestion what I can do to get it working again? Now my node is next to useless for downloading. Would deleting the ole nodedb4o help? Wouldn't make me happy as I've d'ld a 1 gig movie twice.. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM+8T5AAoJENW9VI+wmYasf+wH/R31Hk4v1ujuCkttQAGaWosT wScCOgZnK6k4CUPl5BhhEMZ/0QUNXOBKhp1NyBtRkpXLL4biCTzJqhmaNMF1E0PO KcbOpyEV9CJkaMNNixWuuTX4D47omiLHNGwsqmE7MHG6wKUiTKasXEuFTE8w6Ja5 TVLYWbkT8LTGEYtMzGKf91xyiYlz5gGSMws8qwvPrflTmKCeIOR4LjO16gVTxcaA wC4nepxjMrcxqGKynCeAbz85GlVe425l3scbrPjY7w/RcraaoWYhJKK8VDyb5rvX NJd7zmpzzUttEX4FAifvXMtCnKeS4WA5FCj9HukJbxZYfXLSBgBo/b8gyZhYzco= =RofZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] 2toad: 1308: ERROR in freenet.support.io.PersistentBlobTempBucket.storeTo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Anonymous - 2010.12.03 - 13:57:40GMT - I noticed bunch of similar errors in logs: Fri 03, 2010 13:31:17:737 (freenet.support.io.PersistentBlobTempBucket, Client database access thread(9), ERROR): Found tag but is empty Fri 03, 2010 13:31:17:737 (freenet.node.NodeClientCore$DBJobWrapper, Client database access thread(9), ERROR): Failed to run database job tripPendingKey : caught java.lang.NullPointerException: Active but tag null! (Other tag is also null) shadow=false freed=false persisted=true stored=true index=17236 for freenet.support.io.persistentblobtempbuc...@7a0793 java.lang.NullPointerException: Active but tag null! (Other tag is also null) shadow=false freed=false persisted=true stored=true index=17236 for freenet.support.io.persistentblobtempbuc...@7a0793 at freenet.support.io.PersistentBlobTempBucket.storeTo(PersistentBlobTempBucket.java:263) at freenet.client.async.MinimalSplitfileBlock.storeTo(MinimalSplitfileBlock.java:81) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherCrossSegment.decodeOrEncode(SplitFileFetcherCrossSegment.java:159) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherCrossSegment.onFetched(SplitFileFetcherCrossSegment.java:93) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment.onSuccessInner(SplitFileFetcherSegment.java:451) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment.onGotKey(SplitFileFetcherSegment.java:1831) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherKeyListener.handleBlock(SplitFileFetcherKeyListener.java:267) at freenet.client.async.ClientRequestSchedulerBase.tripPendingKey(ClientRequestSchedulerBase.java:376) at freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler$4.run(ClientRequestScheduler.java:927) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore$DBJobWrapper.run(NodeClientCore.java:1712) at freenet.support.PrioritizedSerialExecutor$Runner.run(PrioritizedSerialExecutor.java:84) at freenet.support.PooledExecutor$MyThread.realRun(PooledExecutor.java:227) at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:130) - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM+UdAAAoJENW9VI+wmYas/NwH/1QO2EiDdkzAF4iIZEDDf2mJ 8rK0gDB/TmXreoynJp707oKaHXEO3VlcZ3ARhb40Tnz1TRypFdxCRcD3TO72iHDq /rEkIRcBX2NGDTKYuxnBKy/Lc27rAZ8bRuCv7yyOKxZU7rxFnj6TpaoujH9Y+V4Q FPwDr7LBwqr05X8uBLPBrJDPgCTbzz92nwwjLy3FCHXFa5Gev0YtXot0jUwljaBH O2Q+K9AQ7iAYPsKRDhstzvZtoP8Z8crTcah3LvXDeE9X0SRipApCnkMF24i/MmNO aUkTDGDTSVxAp8PK29hRyA7N+NgGCr3tJ9FH01QqY7mTl1cQEyvs9JSEVMJiP4o= =LuGj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] freenet opennet port
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/01/2010 07:06 PM, arra...@gmx.net wrote: > Hi folks! > Why can't I tell Freenet to use the port I want it to by altering the > freenet.ini ? > E.g.: Let's say I want to hide the Freenet traffic by using the typical > DirectX-ports, like 47624 or 2300-2400 ... doesn't work, after changing > the ini Freenet does not connect any more and I have to reinstall ... > (sucks!) > > thanks! > > A. > > PS: You should put a warning somewhere, maybe a comment line in the > ini, or something ... It should work fine unless something is already using those ports. It would be helpful if you would attach the error messages you were getting, otherwise it's impossible to help you out. Another thing is that you must edit freenet.ini when Freenet is turnt off. If it's on, then the ini will be overwritten when you shut it down. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM9pjGAAoJENW9VI+wmYas5EUIAMA2ytiBj//ciTQtZWRpf+81 dMgiPUxox8fu1ftM5pNpfK3M6FoK4Rwfs62hGtrM4VkSfeTnoNS1DE1QjxTExHY6 b9Il/WSlXujoSUsKZ3+CTVPPKNx9CchzSwGzqfQoag7J6zfWZoqpbXDQh67uKisf tKnXfQgw6sgXppNWTQY3kTwWR8mJ62yhLyGlRR8UyrqEruNNHB39u1NWiiWFH1I+ sMx47+DFluY+BOjpRV+VCGXTx1S4bsC0xcGdrPeJWum9gQVfhF57jT9f2BC7p0tV R+Ut8pr6LFKocY/qbNv/KYRRDmJ6mdWy+u+d/L42RKW3baQavmkn+cBp++ll9H4= =jMzj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] [freenet.uservoice.com] New message: 'I'm just thinking...It would be grat ...'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Freenet sites (known as freesites) are not visible from the outside of Freenet. But there has been talk about setting up DNS-like system on Freenet. Currently sites are accessed by their keys followed by their name. The key is published and others know to go to it, but it is not easy to remember if it is not bookmarked (for which Freenet provides an interface). - Volodya On 11/30/2010 08:07 PM, no-re...@uservoice.com wrote: > > Customer Feedback for Freenet Project Inc. > > freenet.uservoice.com > > > Message_24New message: Bug Report > > > > > **sent a message from > > http://freenet.uservoice.com/forums/8861-general/topics/8861-i-suggest-you-/filter/accepted > > I'm just thinking... > > It would be great if there were a FREE REGISTRAR managing a TLD like ".free". > People would be free to register their domain names and then use OpenDNS as an > example to operate their websites without their country's governments "spying > eyes". > > Some countries (like Iran ) forbid citizens to publish politic ideas and other > countries have censoring procedures. > > Do you know about free registrars ? > > thanks. > > Alfredo. > > Firefox 3.6.12 (Windows 2000) > > powered by UserVoice <http://uservoice.com> > > Blank > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM9TeiAAoJENW9VI+wmYasfGIH/1oA6pwPvgQTnABp+NzlQoh9 +fJpA8ZA90ZXo3l81SbrWGTO7xpZ6mawinyurTApP8IF3fjC3+ChgNxIXKMe3GP5 coUj/Lpk+OIcofyRSZ/p6gdT8qNMG9SgZxrdQEE/ydQA8Ct5Qth0OlfY6tGKSD8I g2A42i/jE89WUe6m7K257EEcUH/UgdoraAkj3lHFhsriBKiOnn6AuKVYIUdHpHYJ ZF77VkRwL7jcOqTjSFp/VzdHgs7sP4EznHz1RAmytfGey09z7E7D5Gk9IAOFOQrT 8k6gnFDFuBkE5bzBZW4CjGIHpBIXbt6dkQUN6vOu7x7UucKsCW26R2RfYFChfZM= =wJog -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Store Type: RAM or salt-hash ?
On 07.11.2010 10:50, mike wrote:
Somehow Robert got his client cache disabled. Please could some people check
that their client cache is set to salted-hash (not ram), and is of a reasonable
size? You need to check the core settings page in advanced mode. The wizard is
supposed to set this up but it is possible there is a bug.
hi,
my Client Cashe was also set to RAM / 10MiB,
I changed it to Salt-hash.
But I accidentally found Store Type section in the Core Settings Page and it
says:
"Datastore type. Currently this can be salt-hash (this is the default, stores
data on disk with a lossy hashtable and a Bloom filter), bdb-index (old store
format, not recommended), or ram (FOR TESTING ONLY, keep the index and the data
in memory, not on disk). Only use ram if you know what you are doing and have
enough RAM to store all your data (and note it will not be saved on
shutdown)! ..."
my Store Type was set to RAM,
I never played with this setting, it was set default to RAM.
Should I change it to salt-hash ?
thanks
- mike
Yes, change that to salt-hash, and then change the size to whatever amount you
can dedicate to Freenet on the drive you've installed it on.
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Re: [freenet-support] Is client cache enabled?
On 06.11.2010 17:11, listen wrote: 2010/11/6 Matthew Toseland: Somehow Robert got his client cache disabled. Please could some people check that their client cache is set to salted-hash (not ram), and is of a reasonable size? You need to check the core settings page in advanced mode. The wizard is supposed to set this up but it is possible there is a bug. my client cache was set to ram, 10MiB. For the most cases you will need to change that. Go to the settings page http://localhost:/config/node and change "Client cache type?" to "salt-hash" and "Size of the client cache?" to the size you can give Freenet on your hard drive. Ram should be used for testing Freenet or in some cases where you may be very very horribly paranoid/under attack. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] tweaking freenet
On 22.10.2010 1:21, Daniel Stork wrote: Would someone be so kind as to offer a bit of advice about tweaking freenet. I seriously do not understand what it is doing. Freenet is currently averaging about 500K / sec down and 130 k /sec up. I limited the upload to 128 k, so the uploads make sense. Unless you explicitely state the download limit it will use 4 times as much as upload, so 130 * 4 = 520. I have never seen such speeds on my node, in fact regardless of what i put i normally see under 100K everywhere. Do you have some very fast connections to your friends? If not what are your other connection settings? However, I have approx. 50 downloads "downloading" in frost and they are extremely slow, hardly moving at all. So I don't understand what is it doing with this enourmous amount of data it downloads, besides using up my bandwidth limit. The downloads via freenet take time due to latency, not really due to speed. What that means is that Freenet takes some time to find the data on the network (it is improving, but still not perfect). So most of the time you are not actually downloading data for your files. Since it's downloading approx. 4 times as much as uploading every second, and the files in my queue are hardly moving at all What happens to the 3 out of 4 units which I did not request and are not being relayed to someone else? What is the payload percentage? You can see that on the stats page. But i have actually wondered something like that myself. I have the synchronous connection, thus my limits are the same, and i always get slightly more outgoing than incoming traffic, but everybody else seems to be reporting it other way around. Is it just constantly rewriting the datastore? This doesn't seem very efficient. I understand that this may be necessary to cover what is actually downloaded, However, it took about 10 minutes to download the latest frost (on priority 0) at the rate of 500 k/sec this should have been done in 11 seconds if it was the regular internet. In contrast freenet downloaded approx. 55 times the amount of data just to get this file. Isn't this way too excessive ? I would think 5-10 times is more than enough to cover your tracks. Also, I don't understand why freenet refuses to decode many files for minutes or hours even after it's got 100%. It's totally unpredictable when a file at 100% will actually decode. I'm kind of suprised this hasn't been fixed already. Any chance you could fix this? And also, could someone explain the system of priorities and what's the ideal number of threads to be concurrently downloading? It would be great to hear something about tweaking freenet for best performance. Thanks a lot and sorry about the many questions Tried to answer to the best of my ability. Hopefully somebody else will come along and fill in the rest of the blanks. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Help neeeded
On 28.10.2010 13:15, Guillaume LEROY wrote:
Hello!
I have installed Freenet (0.7.5 version #1296 rbuild01296Freenet-ext version #26
r23771) running on Vista 32 and it seemed to be working OK. I mean I have a node
ID and I can navigate and download from FMS with no problem. However, when I try
to send a message to a forum ("Test" as a matter of fact...), it does appear in
the "inserted" list, but NOT on the forum itself afterwards (even after more
than 24 h)...
I also have the same problem with Frost. If I post to a board ("Newbie-help
would you believe..) my message stalls in the outbox until a message states that
it was not possible to send it. Also, may be for the same reason, all of the
boards indicated in the left window show 0 messages. If i click on any of them,
nothing happens, even I if I hit "refresh"... For information, when I installed
Frost I checked the box running "Freenet .05" instead of .07 because I am on
Opennet and not Darknet..
Many many thanks if you can help me.
Cordially
Guillaume
PS:
by the way, same thing with Thaw... No messages sent nor received..
It is possible that the board you were sending on frost is under a DoS attack,
this may prevent the message from being inserted.
As for FMS, it's some weird WoT thing, you many need to rate some people's trust
lists up or something in order to see your own messages.
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Re: [freenet-support] Abeginner's analysisof Freenet'smethod ofcommunication
On 25.10.2010 10:42, Ichi wrote: On 25/10/10 07:17, Volodya wrote: On 25.10.2010 8:24, Ichi wrote: On 25/10/10 04:32, Volodya wrote: On 25.10.2010 6:03, Ichi wrote: Is there any way to create a darknet comprising nodes that all see the internet through VPN tunnels with no port forwarding? I'm pretty sure that the answer is "no". Or, at least, I haven't managed it so far. Yes, it's possible. One of the main way that Internet connections are created in Russia are to create a network connection to your ISP and then they give you VPN access that actually takes you to the internet. There's no problem running Freenet over such a setup. Thanks, Volodya. Briefly, here's what I did. Using VirtualBx, I created a Ubuntu Lucid VM, installed OpenVPN and XeroBank credentials, and made three clones. I then booted each VM, and established the VPN, ensuring that each had a distinct IP address. Finally, I installed Freenet on each, in darknet mode, and "introduced" each node to the other three as instructed. But they didn't connect to each other. As a control, I put one of them in opennet mode, and it immediately established many connections. Ichi The problem could be that you needed to enable allowing connections to the local network addresses, and before the exchange you needed to turn on including local address in the noderef. -- Volodya Thanks -- and I don't want them to connect locally. I want them to connect only via each VM's VPN, as if they were far apart. Although I was testing this with four VMs running on one host, for actual implementation the VMs would be in multiple locations. There's a difference between running locally and connecting via local ip address range. I'm not sure how you set up the address alocation for the different virtual machines, but i guess that the ip addresses would fall within LAN address lange. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Output rate ove the limit
I've just refreshed the /stats/ page and i see this:
Output Rate: 145 KiB/s (of 120 KiB/s)
I would understand input being over the limit (since you can only somewhat
control that), but output is completely under the node control isn't it?
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Re: [freenet-support] A beginner's analysisof Freenet'smethod ofcommunication
On 25.10.2010 8:24, Ichi wrote: On 25/10/10 04:32, Volodya wrote: On 25.10.2010 6:03, Ichi wrote: Is there any way to create a darknet comprising nodes that all see the internet through VPN tunnels with no port forwarding? I'm pretty sure that the answer is "no". Or, at least, I haven't managed it so far. Yes, it's possible. One of the main way that Internet connections are created in Russia are to create a network connection to your ISP and then they give you VPN access that actually takes you to the internet. There's no problem running Freenet over such a setup. Thanks, Volodya. Briefly, here's what I did. Using VirtualBx, I created a Ubuntu Lucid VM, installed OpenVPN and XeroBank credentials, and made three clones. I then booted each VM, and established the VPN, ensuring that each had a distinct IP address. Finally, I installed Freenet on each, in darknet mode, and "introduced" each node to the other three as instructed. But they didn't connect to each other. As a control, I put one of them in opennet mode, and it immediately established many connections. Ichi The problem could be that you needed to enable allowing connections to the local network addresses, and before the exchange you needed to turn on including local address in the noderef. -- Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] A beginner's analysis of Freenet'smethod ofcommunication
On 25.10.2010 6:03, Ichi wrote:
On 24/10/10 22:07, Volodya wrote:
In particular I'm asking: why not tunnel connections in a manner
similar to VPN?
How do you propose Freenet deals with ports not being open?
- Volodya
Is there any way to create a darknet comprising nodes that all see the
internet through VPN tunnels with no port forwarding? I'm pretty sure
that the answer is "no". Or, at least, I haven't managed it so far.
Yes, it's possible. One of the main way that Internet connections are created in
Russia are to create a network connection to your ISP and then they give you VPN
access that actually takes you to the internet. There's no problem running
Freenet over such a setup.
Would it be enough for one node to have an open port?
If you entire network consists of up to 41 nodes, then it would be possible to
use TCP. If you use UDP with hole punching, etc. then it would be possible to
create the network as large as you want.
Ichi
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Re: [freenet-support] A beginner's analysis of Freenet's method of communication
On 25.10.2010 5:28, Dennis Nezic wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:03:59 -0500, Daxter wrote:
In particular I'm asking: why not tunnel connections in a manner
similar to VPN?
You can, with darknet ... form your own ssh tunnels with friends, etc.
Not if the port is closed. SSH tunnel is created to map the external open port
to a port on localhost. If the port is not open you still can't connect.
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Re: [freenet-support] A beginner's analysis of Freenet's method ofcommunication
In particular I'm asking: why not tunnel connections in a manner similar to VPN?
How do you propose Freenet deals with ports not being open?
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Re: [freenet-support] A beginner's analysis of Freenet's method ofcommunication
On 24.10.2010 23:38, Daxter wrote: From my understanding, there is a fundamental flaw in p2p technologies like Freenet for those that want to deploy in highly-censored countries. That is, it's too obvious. The censor doesn't have to know what's being transmitted, only that /something/ is that's outside of their control. All they have to do is disallow the ports on which the technology runs. Torrenters can at least get around this by changing the port they're using; Freenet has no such option. Not only does Freenet have such an option, but the default ports used are random, thus are different for each computer it's installed on. From my understanding of internet communication protocols, the use of udp is too obvious; it stands out like a sore thumb. Why not tunnel the connection over tcp? Wouldn't that prevent potential censors from differentiating it from the rest of transmitted data? As well, wouldn't it solve the closed ports issue? It's a planned feature, but for now the protocol has no identifiable signature. For all intensive purposes it looks like a very long Skype conference call. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
You know what? Why don't you do a freenet-browser in Java ?!? Than there's anything you want - nice GUI, and complete control 'bout what freesites can use/do. Oh, and DAUs (dumb a** users) don't have to point their browsers at 127.0.0.1:, what is way to difficult for them to understand anyway. yours A. There already is a Java based Freenet only browser. Unfortunately its development has been abandoned, and it's not very useable by now, it's shipped together with frost at the moment. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
On 18.10.2010 23:29, Ray Jones wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 14:11 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote:
It would be really helpful if people could spend a little time to
understand what is being debated before they start ranting.
Try again. I subscribed to this list lastMay? I have received
perhaps a half dozen messages since then until this last week. Suddenly
I have 50 messages some dating back to June and July. The first message
I received in the bunch was the straw poll on javascript. Since then I
have carefully read every message I have received. There has been very
little discussion as to why js is needed, or I am missing a bunch of
messages, or the discussion seriously needs to be brought down to a
level that I can understand. So don't tell me to understand before I
start ranting if you are not part of the solution of helping me
understand. Until I understand, my vote still stands at no.
You misunderstood the poll question. Nobody is suggesting that freesites should
be allowed to have JS in them, but rather Freenet's own web proxy would have JS
in the interface. That JS would only be written by those same developers who
today write Java code for Freenet already.
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1276 and my recent absence
-- you actually (hopefully) know and trust each of your peers, unlike opennet strangers. May be I have watched too many 007 movies, but what if one of your trusted peers is actually a double agent? That's a good question. Maybe someone more knowlegeable can help flesh out the details, but I recall reading a while back that it's possible for peers to know what is in each other's datastores/caches? (Via a timing attack... faster retrievals imply something exists?) Although one still has plausible deniability so long as you have at least one non-compromised peer, so I'm not sure how meaningful this would be. Also it's *significantly* more expensive to infiltrate a social network with a double agent so that everybody has one than to run one node which slowly moves towards a target in OpenNet. To move in DarkNet you actually have to go and talk to a person... something like "Hi, do you mind introducing me to some of your friends?" which may work only sometimes. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Build 1263 problem? or power outage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/31/2010 11:02 AM, Ray Jones wrote: > On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 02:41 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: >> What do you mean mean the uploads/downloads page "will not load"? (Ie. >> does it not show the queued files, but rather something like 'Internal >> error'?) > > No, there is no end.Chromium will sit for hours "Waiting for > 127.0.0.1." > > I can reload the Browse page or the Configuration pages, but /downloads > and /uploads will not load. I had a same problem a few times. Stopping the load process and then refreshing the page seems to solve it. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMV5NcAAoJENW9VI+wmYasEWcIAKEalmxdFdwA8fa6aEekazjP Q25vFpZu2xs/FwUjqWbO3njeFoCz5YfmvvWhLLjhA4HP/yp7VyrHcHpNUz+ZVVK4 x11ee8S1DKQqFETM880KFXDEmxRk/L86COSs1M1rr+vAqN9dBiTe+FqAqBlSK70I ESO7FdIdDGaq9arTdTzxfFFE8StOEbSmsjJHveIObnxPVNm/lInUdvOkvYWv5nBK 39aFR6cVJGA4mt63BJhs+Ke3zUdq8+ANXi/Cspf7ZH7HLp+AHsOfnFIRWk5V3xIV UTuEI60x8L6xALfiBrga0atWaKAA1UKX/HLa2VHwn+yxRVkHsnaZBJWwKDSmZ54= =IV0h -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Researchers Find Way to Steal Encrypted Data
On 06/25/2010 08:15 PM, VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote:
On 06/25/2010 07:59 PM, user1 wrote:
http://www.samrecovery.com/pressRoom-articles-researchersFind.aspx
For your info *smile*
And don't forget that Apple stores the password for its default encryption in
plain text. Their justification is that they don't want to inconvenience a user
by having to ask for a password to do some UI changes.
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Re: [freenet-support] Researchers Find Way to Steal Encrypted Data
On 06/25/2010 07:59 PM, user1 wrote:
http://www.samrecovery.com/pressRoom-articles-researchersFind.aspx
For your info *smile*
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I saw a video showing the same but even without chilling. The way it works is
because the data on the chip dies slowly and is partially recoverable even after
about 30 seconds of the power down.
The story goes as such: if somebody get a physical access to your machine, you
need to pray that they don't know what they are doing.
Freenet thus can only minimise the risk, for example by making it harder for a
less than knowledgeable attacker or an attacker who doesn't wish to give oneself
away to prove anything.
It's very far from that perfect anonymous system described in Songs of Distant
Earth.
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Re: [freenet-support] Master password
Fred Hoffmann wrote: Just loaded freenet. How do I obtain the "master password" to get started. Do I need to register somewhere? I will assume that you've loaded the correct 'Freenet' (the anonymous distributed network node), and the have chosen some high security level pertaining to your computer being taken from you. In which case you are the person who had to chose that master password, and nobody should ever know it. There is no registration to run a node. If you have allowed it to connect to strangers on the internet it will bootstrap itself automatically, if you did not allow for that, then you will need to already know people who run the nodes, and connect to them (it's more secure if you trust the people you connect to (but less secure if you don't), you should never connect to somebody in this manner whom you wouldn't trust not to try to attack your node and try to figure out what you have been doing). - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] getchk getchkfile with or without compression
Matthew Toseland wrote: As I understand it Chomsky defends his copyright quite vigorously (and earns a substantial amount of money from his work). Are you absolutely sure you have the right to distribute that file? Dear Matthew, I understand (while not 100% agree with) your reasons behind disallowing people from talking about anything that is copyrighted and is transferred to another person without permission. However, what you have said there is untrue. In fact you are safe only because Noam Chomsky does not use libel laws to protect oneself, even when it would easily be a winner (such as when he is accused of antisemitism, holocaust denial, etc.) You have already spoken to me about Noam Chosmky and copyright, and i recall quite well that i've told you that he has never used copyright laws to take any individual to court, i have then informed you that there has been a torrent - file sharing site specifically geared to exchanging interviews, books, and other media made by Chomsky. I believe your argument then was that some media company that owns the copyright of his interview or writing may non-the-less take people to court. The reason why i'm writing this is that this list is public and is easily found in search engines, thus when you say things like that on this list it creates an urgan legend and defames Professor Noam Chomsky. I can already see some zionist article: "Noam Chomsky, the self-proclaimed anarchist, has been terrorising the people by using the laws that he claims to oppose, in fact even the radical Freenet administrators who allow links to child pornography and terrorism are afraid to even allow a mention of the audio files with his name in them (Matthew Toseland, 2010)." Whether you like it or not, toad; by the public that will not know enough about the way Freenet operates you will be seen as one of the people "in charge", and as such when you say things on public forum about some specific person it can be used to show the "Freenet policy". Please note, i'm not arguing to allow copyright infringement to be advertised on the support lists, far from it; but please do not make statements about individual people's character. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] getchk getchkfile with or without compression
Dennis Nezic wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:56:46 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote:
Is it possible to explicitly state the compression used with GETCHK or
GETCHKFILE or GETCHKDDIR from telnet? (I don't think these commands
are even possible in fproxy -- getting chk keys without inserting?)
When inserting files via fproxy, I think you have to explicitly decide
whether to compress or not, but that would easily lead to a different
chk key for the same file, if the GETCHK* commands don't do the same
thing.
Oh, why do we have arbitrary compression anyways, btw? :) (Arbitrary
because there is no explicit standard in the specs, as far as I know,
which can easily lead to completely different CHKs for the same file
across different versions, if the settings are even slightly changed
(ie. slightly different compression algorithm/level, or threshold for
using it, or explicit user choice, etc.)) Is the massive computer and
time overhead really necessary to reduce filesizes by 1%? (I assume
jpeg and zip and mpeg4 etc compression algorithms are already good
enough? And why the heck is all this massive overhead done THREE
times? Are gzip bzip and lzma really all /that/ different??)
You did hit one good point here, however, and perhaps it should be put in the
wiki. There is almost no reason to insert zip, bzip, or other archive types into
freenet (unless the format is important for some reason); just insert the tar,
the node will compress it the best it can.
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Re: [freenet-support] getchk getchkfile with or without compression
Dennis Nezic wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:56:46 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: Is it possible to explicitly state the compression used with GETCHK or GETCHKFILE or GETCHKDDIR from telnet? (I don't think these commands are even possible in fproxy -- getting chk keys without inserting?) When inserting files via fproxy, I think you have to explicitly decide whether to compress or not, but that would easily lead to a different chk key for the same file, if the GETCHK* commands don't do the same thing. Oh, why do we have arbitrary compression anyways, btw? :) (Arbitrary because there is no explicit standard in the specs, as far as I know, which can easily lead to completely different CHKs for the same file across different versions, if the settings are even slightly changed (ie. slightly different compression algorithm/level, or threshold for using it, or explicit user choice, etc.)) Is the massive computer and time overhead really necessary to reduce filesizes by 1%? (I assume jpeg and zip and mpeg4 etc compression algorithms are already good enough? And why the heck is all this massive overhead done THREE times? Are gzip bzip and lzma really all /that/ different??) This question is being asked over and over and over again, mostly by the people who don't bother look for the answer (in the future please at least say that you didn't look for it). Think about the implications of 1% in the network that does not do path folding? This is 1% on every download by every person that goes out multiple hops. So you will be downloading 1% more, but your node will also have to carry 1% more from all the traffic that comes through it. This will also amount to the constant garbage flood attack on the network equivalent to 1% of all the data that is currently being inserted, pushing more content off the network, causing people to retry, and then reinsert more often (with the effects discussed above). In addition to all that, the truth of the matter is that the CPU time is very cheap when it is compared to the network latency. And as for the reason why there's no standard so far, it's probably because things are still being tweaked. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Windows testers needed
Matthew Toseland пишет: > We need some help with debugging the windows installer. There are a few > configurations that our windows expert doesn't have easy access to. Please > could you respond to this mail if you can help? > > We need people with: > 64-bit Windows in general > Windows 7 > Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese, etc (non-ASCII), versions of Windows > Kaspersky anti-virus > > Thanks! Ok, i assume the help is no longer needed. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Windows testers needed
Matthew Toseland пишет: > We need some help with debugging the windows installer. There are a few > configurations that our windows expert doesn't have easy access to. Please > could you respond to this mail if you can help? > > We need people with: > 64-bit Windows in general > Windows 7 > Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese, etc (non-ASCII), versions of Windows > Kaspersky anti-virus > > Thanks! I might be able to help with the cyrillic issues. But it will depend on when you'll get in contact with me. I'm here and there right now. Let me know exactly what you want though. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Important question about make webstie on freenet
Gonzalo Castro Carballo пишет: > hello, I'd like to create a website in Freenet. I have a question I can not > resolve. After creating a website, how can I change the index to update the > website?. Do I need to create and upload a new one?. What happens then with > the links to the old index?. Thanks > > In the wiki i not see information. Thanks If you create a freesite correctly and upload it to a USK key then all the links to the old version will get to the new version once the node of the Freenet user who has clicked on the link has seen the new version. In other words, if the key is USK, don't worry about it too much and allow Freenet to recognise that you've uploaded a new version. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated
urza9...@gmail.com пишет:
> ...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed
> illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you
> can't talk about it. We (supposedly) have freedom of speech here in
> the US - I mean, murder is illegal, but you can still _talk_ about
> murder. Hell you can even run a mailing list dedicated to plotting the
> perfect murder if you wanted. Of course the list would likely be
> watched heavily by the government, and if someone was murdered in such
> a fashion everyone on the list would likely be instant suspects, but
> the list would still be legal.
I'm sure if you create supp...@murder-list.org and provide specific information
about how to murder somebody you would get into legal trouble even in the most
pro-free-speech countries. Of course it would depend on what it means for
Freenet to be 'illegal'.
- Volodya
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhist
> wrote:
>> bimbek пишет:
>>> Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the
>>> poor guy.
>>>
>>> I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
>>> court would say that using freenet is illegal...
>> Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i
>> don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet will become illegal, this e-mail
>> list will have to shut down, thus de-facto "banning" everybody from it.
>>
>>- Volodya
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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated
bimbek пишет: > Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the > poor guy. > > I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US > court would say that using freenet is illegal... Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet will become illegal, this e-mail list will have to shut down, thus de-facto "banning" everybody from it. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Strange behavior of the MIME type detection
henri godron пишет:
> All the files where .rar files.
> Example : daemon4304-lite.part103.rar
>
> That's why it is weird...
I found that every so often when the computer is busy the node keeps the
default
mime for the file even when there is clearly identifiable or specified mime
type. Try reinserting one of the files with the incorrect (non-rar) mime and
see
if it will miraculously get identified.
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <mailto:bbac...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
> As far as I know the node uses the file extension to guess the file
> type.
> You said you compressed into many rar files, what are the file
> extensions?
>
> Is it possible that the node guesses .rar files correctly, but fails
> with .r00, .r01, ... ?
> This would explain what you see...
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:11, henri godron <mailto:enjoy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I splitted a file into many .rar files and there is something
> strange in the
> > mime type decetion when inserting the files in my node.
> > Most of them are being re-compressed (because their mime type is not
> > detected as being a compressed file) and some others are being
> recognized
> > correctly as rar file types.
> >
> > I guess this is a known behavior and i suppose the node is trying
> to guess
> > the mime type not by using the extension but by opening the file
> and trying
> > to 'understand' ?
> >
> > Maybe it's a bug, I don't know, so I'm still posting this here..
> Who knows !
> > I tried to have a look at the code but I have no time right now..
> >
> > Cya
> >
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Re: [freenet-support] Peer connections
l...@hushmail.com пишет: > Hey Evan. > > I tried that site but it doesn't open or exist. > I have gone to quite a few sites concerning "how to forward" ports > and so far none of them instruct "how to", just "this is what you > need to do. Frustrating to say the least. > > Since you say I am connected, how to I contact whoever I am > connected to? I have searched through all the pages of Freenet I > can access but nothing that shows or leads me into the path or > manner of trying to "contact" any of these "connected" ones. > > Thanks Ok, you can be connected either to somebody you know in real life (you would have to trade references for that, and for that you would already have to know how to contact that person) or you can be connected to strangers (these are found for you automatically by your node, and these people you won't be able to contact, and neither do you need to do that). It is possible that you want to talk to people on Freenet in general (some of them might be those you are connected to, but you will have no knowledge of that (and that's the point of anonymity)). To do that you need to set up one of the "chat" applications which use Freenet to transfer their messages. For example you can go to http://jtcfrost.sf.net/ and install that application, after that you create a pseudonym and can communicate using that pseudonym with other people. - Volodya > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:40:47 +0700 Evan Daniel > wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM, wrote: >>> Hello people. >>> I have these "peers" and they are "connected". I am assuming >>> "connected" to me in some manner. >>> In order to connect to them, I have to give them something, >> and/or >>> get something from them. >>> >>> Where, no, how do I find their info in order to connect? >>> I know I can send my noderef but where do I find theirs? >>> >>> Also, the message in the window mentions using a certain port. I >>> think it says something like UDP but since I don't have that >> page >>> open please forgive me if I got the letters wrong. >>> >>> SIGH! Again, it mentions forwarding this port and I cannot seem >> to >>> understand how to do this. >> You already have everything you need to connect to them. You can >> tell >> because you're connected to them. Similarly, they have everything >> they need. >> >> There are plenty of people who can do a better job than I >> explaining >> how to forward a port. Some of them have done so on this mailing >> list; some of those, recently. I suggest checking the list >> archives. >> Alternately, google can help: >> http://www.google.com/q=how+to+forward+a+port >> >> Evan Daniel >> ___ >> Support mailing list >> Support@freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi- >> bin/mailman/listinfo/support >> Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] No subject
l...@hushmail.com пишет: > Hello. I hope this is OK. It’s quite long. > > I wonder if anyone can help with this/these question/s-comment/s in > the form of clarification. I hope it doesn’t seem too petty but I > wonder if others go through the same confusion as I. > > On this page: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ one can go to: “Load > Official Plugin” > The viewer can see, as did I, that “Fetch over Freenet is checked > AND that it says, > “This is untraceable, safe….” NOW, untraceable means anonymous. > The other choice available is to, “Fetch over the web from > Freenet’s central servers…and is “TRACEABLE”, meaning NOT > ANONYMOUS! > > (Freenet isn’t safe?) This point has already been answered, but i feel that there is a point that can be made here by answering it again. When you fetch something from the regular internet, the request is easily traceable back to you. The warning that you see tells you that for that reason. The question is how did you get Freenet to run? If you have downloaded the installer from the official freenet site, or even if you have just visited the site without the use of Tor, somebody can potentially see that. It's the same with plug-ins. It would be interesting if Freenet could check the proxy setting of the system and use that when downloading plugins. Thus if you set up your entire system to use Tor (for example) then Freenet would see that and pass the request for the download through it. I do see a few problems with it right away... the biggest being (as Evan Daniel pointed out) the level of understanding, an average user does not understand the difference between installing a Tor-Button plugin for Firefox and setting up Tor as the proxy for all communication that comes out from the computer. Also Freenet would be dependent on the external thing for anonymity, which isn't great. Anyhow, back to my original point. When you download plugin (or anything else Freenet-related) from the Web, you identify yourself as a user of Freenet. That (in and of itself) does not tell anybody exactly what you say on Freenet (although may identify how you say that... downloading Freemail says that you will be sending Freemail messages, downloading Frost says you will be a frost user, etc.) > On this page: FREEMAIL-SETUP > http://127.0.0.1:/freenet:u...@xog49gnltumtjjzj0fvzugdpo4hjusy2us > GQkjE7NY4,EtUH5b9gGpp8JiY-Bm-Y9kHX1q-yDjD- > 9oRzXn21O9k,AQACAAE/freemail/4/setup/index.html > > It clearly directs one method of using the same plugin page as my > beginning comment above (Load Official Plugin), with the “only” > comment for that choice being that it is NOT ANONYMOUS! > > So, is one correct to assume that the first directive is false, > misleading and/or has been tampered with (edited) by someone with > bad intent? Or is it the second one? > > One point I am trying to make here is that this can cause some > immediate doubt and confusion in someone new to Freenet. I am > concerned because the world needs Freenet and Tor more than they > might consciously know. I recently saw figures about the estimated > number of users for both, and the numbers were very small. They are > small enough that large arrays of computers, set around the world > and networked, are capable of watching ALL nodes and gathering the > data to be analyzed. > > Look at Tor. On the Network Map (of the world), there are nodes > running in sequential order, and all these are located in the same > place – near the CIA in the US. > Some of these sequential orders are showing up in other locations > around the Tor network. > > I have found Freenet to be so frustrating and confusing to set up > and use, that as I search the web for information that is clear and > helpful, I keep coming across more comments from Users who are > quitting the program. Now it does make sense to me, that with > anonymity programs, the more using them, the better and more safely > anonymous it is for all. But, it seems the numbers are dwindling. I > don’t know. > > I have used Tor for about 4 years. I recently went to its Hidden > Wiki and about one half of all its services were gone! So, I > wonder, as do others, is Tor is dying out? > > I really don’t want to see that for Tor or Freenet. > > If one goes to: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ first, before > finding the .jar or .zip download page (supposedly both are > anonymous but of course, IT DOESN’T SAY, then they might make a > very bad choice solely from being confused by the directions. > > So, while this might seem very petty and/or trivial to (I don’t > know-most who might read this), it is very important to write > directions for the reader, not the writer! > > In Tor, the Hidden Services may be tampered with, changed, > purposely to be misleading and dangerous, by those who want to > destroy anonymity and our right to it. They use anonymity to try > and destroy anonymity, except for them, of course. > > Is this al
Re: [freenet-support] Forwarding ports
l...@hushmail.com пишет: > Hi. > > If anyone has clear directions on how to "forward ports" could they > please post them here? > > I still need to do this but cannot find out how to do it. > > ThanX in advance This will depend on your network set-up. The thing is that the port can be blocked at every router that the packet encounters, so everything needs to be open. Here is a very good description that will hopefully get you started (posted by Luke): http://archives.freenetproject.org/message/20090930.143913.eab74afb.en.html - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] connection assistance
bqz69 пишет: > On Monday 28 September 2009 21.54.52 VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: >> Jonathan Bannister пишет: >>> Thank you for this sugestion. I have done this repeatedly, with no >>> success. >>> >>> I note the following suggestion: "it would be a good idea to forward the >>> ports 61616 and 27307 (UDP) on your router." How is this accomplished? > I am using firestarter firewall, and that's where I forward my ports (I am > using ubuntu linux) The port may be blocked at any level *before* the firestarter even gets a chance to see it. Think of the network connection as a water pipe, if you have several volves prior to the one at the tip of the hose closing any single one of them will block the flow of water. Router is the piece of hardware that takes the traffic it receives from one network and sends it to the different network. One of those "networks" can actually be seen as the cloud of "the Internet" (since it is connected on and on with more and more networks). At some point there is a closed port before it reaches the internet. ISPs sometimes close the ports, and if you have a router in your house, it may have come preconfigured to close everything unless told to do otherwise. I honestly do not know enough at this point to help you any more... sorry. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] connection assistance
Jonathan Bannister пишет: > Thank you for this sugestion. I have done this repeatedly, with no success. > > I note the following suggestion: "it would be a good idea to forward the > ports 61616 and 27307 (UDP) on your router." How is this accomplished? That will depend on the router, and you will need to have control of it, or at least have the ability to explain to those in control why you need that port forwarded. - Volodya > - Original Message - > From: "VolodyA! V Anarhist" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] connection assistance > > >> Jonathan Bannister пишет: >>> I'm having diffuclty connecting. Can you advise? >> I believe that if you go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ and put in that IP >> address that might help. >> >> - Volodya >> >>> Unknown external address >>> Freenet was unable to determine your external IP address (or the IP >>> address of your NAT-device or firewall). You can still exchange >>> references with other people, however this will only work if the other >>> user is not behind a NAT-device or firewall. As soon as you have >>> connected to one other user in this way, Freenet will be able to >>> determine your external IP address. You can determine your current IP >>> address and tell your node with the 'Temporary IP address hint' >>> configuration parameter <http://127.0.0.1:/config/node>. Also, it >>> would be a good idea to forward the ports 61616 and 27307 (UDP) on your >>> router to make it easy to connect to your node. >>> >>> * Temporary IP address hintTemporary hint to what our IP might be; >>> deleted after us >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Support mailing list >>> Support@freenetproject.org >>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >>> Unsubscribe at >>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >>> Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe >> >> -- >> http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast >> http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut >> >> "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin >> ___ >> Support mailing list >> Support@freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >> Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] connection assistance
Jonathan Bannister пишет: > I'm having diffuclty connecting. Can you advise? I believe that if you go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ and put in that IP address that might help. - Volodya > Unknown external address > Freenet was unable to determine your external IP address (or the IP > address of your NAT-device or firewall). You can still exchange > references with other people, however this will only work if the other > user is not behind a NAT-device or firewall. As soon as you have > connected to one other user in this way, Freenet will be able to > determine your external IP address. You can determine your current IP > address and tell your node with the 'Temporary IP address hint' > configuration parameter <http://127.0.0.1:/config/node>. Also, it > would be a good idea to forward the ports 61616 and 27307 (UDP) on your > router to make it easy to connect to your node. > > * Temporary IP address hintTemporary hint to what our IP might be; > deleted after us > > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Remove all identifying content from posted files (especially audio)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Mearns wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, SmallSister development > wrote: >> Brian Mearns wrote: >>> I understand the basic architecture of Freenet and how it protects >>> contributors, but I'm concerned that the files themselves might >>> contain identifying information about the source of the file. In >>> particular, for audio files such as MP3, Ogg Vorbis, and Flac. Does >>> anyone have any information on making sure there are no >>> "fingerprints" left on these files when posting? >> There is no way to be certain. There could be a future algorithm piecing >> together just enough bits from a file to identify you. Word frequency >> analysis has been used to discern likely writers of a plain text file. >> Yes, you can avoid stupid mistakes by checking for "known signatures" >> and removing them, but that is something that would be different for >> different file types (ogg would be somewhat different from mp3; but doc >> and pdf require totally different approaches.) It would be useful to >> have tools that can identify and remove watermarks and Freenet would be >> a great place to publish them (with source code please!) >> >> Peter. >> ___ >> Support mailing list >> Support@freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >> Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe >> > > Bugger, I didn't even think of steganographic watermarks (shame on > me), I was thinking more in terms of meta data known to be stored with > various file formats (like ID3 tags), but this seems to be more > complicated than I expected. Thanks for the insight. > > -Brian For audio and video the best approach could be to take the streams and remux them into the same container type, then to copy only the metadata which the user knows about (for example some audio files have autogain settings, etc). You would still have a potential for watermarking, as Peter already pointed out, and these watermarks will become more and more common as Internet Music Shop software develops (this is not to assume that internet shops is the only source of watermarked audio, other groups can watermark a file, this is most dangerous in countries where freenet is illegal(*)). - Volodya (*) An agent of the state can insert a completely legal file that one believes would be downloaded and not hidden by average freenet user, let's say it is a public domain humorous poem. Even those users who are completely paranoid and run Freenet on a hidden encrypted partition may let their guard down and copy said file outside of encrypted partition, or post it on their blog. This, however, can be used to identify them as Freenet users, if the version of the file distributed on Freenet has been watermarked. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqsmd8ACgkQuWy2EFICg+1MxACdGDNX7UcUzs5yl+S6HTBGNWGR K/AAoMYWgT+HkKgxZUrxTMIGBJBZxfP1 =JOVB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Very few connections on 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DJ's Box wrote: >> Correct, 0,5 is very small due to the fact that new people do not join it >> (because of the security vulnerabilities and other things) and people who >> have >> used it in the past have mostly migrated to 0,7. > > > But _that_ small? So there's only like 30-40 people on the whole > planet that user 0.5 at this point (judging by the average number of > connections on my node)? Sounds a little too small to believe... > Is there a list of "security vulnerabilities and other things" > available somewhere? Correct. If you are to try to run Freenet 0,3 you will find that on the whole of the planet you will probably be the only one. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqg8poACgkQuWy2EFICg+1xsgCgkdvZbSUm41S9TTo93J+zOnXX CPwAnAlYmf+5tY+giLEAog5IbdP+2jrS =mN8F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Very few connections on 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DJ's Box wrote: > I've noticed that for some months already, my node has a very low > number of connections (especially active ones). This is an "average" > report on Open Connections page: > > Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 30 (23/7/90) > Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 9 (7/2) > Data waiting to be transferred271 Bytes > Total amount of data transferred 3.508 MiB > > What could be the reason? Is 0.5 really that small now? I've used it > for quite a while, though. Correct, 0,5 is very small due to the fact that new people do not join it (because of the security vulnerabilities and other things) and people who have used it in the past have mostly migrated to 0,7. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqfmhkACgkQuWy2EFICg+0y9QCg4azAO7gFkLFKfE/v5gDp+kMq uXcAnjmvd7BSDzg8rLNgtXk736KsbZYL =aE1p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] ?spam? Re: Automating console interface
Michael Yip wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What I'm looking to do is to somehow automate the process of uploading a
> set of documents on one end of my on darknet and request the documents
> from the other end.
>
> I'm trying to measure how the HTL value and key closeness may expose the
> requester's identity.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
Well, i see a couple of ways you can approach downloading and uploading. First
you can use some of the pre-existing FCP libraries
(http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetDevTools) and write something quick with
that, you also can do that via plug-ins, although i honestly am not sure about
the intricacies of it.
You also can just open the port and write to it, the FCP is quite straight
forward if if you don't need anything complicated it's trivial to set-up
(http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0) in order to insert
something you would send ClientHello to the node, and get a response, then send
ClientPut with UploadFrom=disk; you then would wait until the file completes.
To
download the file you would ClienHello and ClienGet prividing the URL that was
generated as the result of insert.
All this would get the node to do the work, it will *not* expose the internal
attributes to you, to do this you would have to dig inside the code of Freenet.
Of course you can set logging to MINIMAL and see what already gets logged,
(look
at the actual logs, not only at wrapper.log).
- Volodya
> VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote:
>> Michael Yip wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm currently carrying out a research project on Freenet to try and
>>> measure the amount of information one can gain from the observable
>>> attributes.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if there's any way I can automate the commands through
>>> the Freenet console interface, in the same way one can write a shell
>>> script to automate shell commands?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help in advance.
>>>
>>> Michael
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>> If i would be doing something like this i would edit the code itself putting
>> System.err.println("Attribute1 = "+attribute1.toString()) of the attributes
>> that
>> i need to capture and then write something to parse wrapper.log file which
>> is
>> where it all will end up.
>>
>>- Volodya
>>
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Re: [freenet-support] Automating console interface
Michael Yip wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently carrying out a research project on Freenet to try and
> measure the amount of information one can gain from the observable
> attributes.
>
> I was wondering if there's any way I can automate the commands through
> the Freenet console interface, in the same way one can write a shell
> script to automate shell commands?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Michael
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If i would be doing something like this i would edit the code itself putting
System.err.println("Attribute1 = "+attribute1.toString()) of the attributes
that
i need to capture and then write something to parse wrapper.log file which is
where it all will end up.
- Volodya
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Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?
Evan Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V > Anarhist wrote: >> Luke771 wrote: >>> Alex Pyattaev wrote: >>>> Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that >>>> try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed >>>> tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so >>>> that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the >>>> freenet users in the LAN=) >>>> >>> What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users >>> wont be that easy to catch. >> He has stated that the network does not allow "P2P applications" running >> Freenet >> as pure darknet will technically be "F2F", now we can start arguing whether >> F2F >> is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F >> and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are actually >> not >> violating that particular network's guidelines. > > Except that it's really, really obvious that friends are a subset of > peers. See definition of peers. In a computing context, peers is as > distinct from client/server etc. This is a silly argument, and any > sysadmin will (rightly) tell you you're an idiot if you try to make > it. > > Evan Daniel The issue with my university was that P2P applications do not let anybody control who connects to your computer. Each person has to be responsible for the connections being made to the machine. Clearly F2F network is *not* a subset of P2P under that light. So many users will (rightly) call you an idiot (since we were not discussing peers and friends, but P2P and F2F). - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?
Luke771 wrote: > Alex Pyattaev wrote: >> Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that >> try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed >> tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so >> that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the >> freenet users in the LAN=) >> > What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users > wont be that easy to catch. He has stated that the network does not allow "P2P applications" running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be "F2F", now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are actually not violating that particular network's guidelines. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://www.freedomporn.org/Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] internal error - node.db4o
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - From Frost (since nobody seems to be using Freenet from development team): - - Anonymous - 2009.06.30 - 08:18:42GMT - I had message "internal error" in download/upload queue I moved file "node.db4o" to backup directory - and now everything works. But i lost all my download/upload keys. Anybody knows if there is any chance to get them back? just keys or filenames... i tried some tools for db4o database but don't work. is it encrypted or something? - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpN/1UACgkQuWy2EFICg+2MiACgo9n7dOLPt2bYODTO5m8iIku6 J+cAoNPoPiLfRerEpU5MRugvY6llXaEs =pRu8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Assistance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I got Frost from the alpha/plugins directory at > downloads.freenetproject.org. However, no worries there. I downloaded > Frost again, removed the old, and tried from scratch - and bingo, it's > working. I did the same with Freemail, and it is suddenly working also, > lol. Evidently, third time is the charm. Perhaps something has corrupted the configuration or something else like that. > I am coming to the conclusion that being stubborn is an asset in this > business. Yes, but strangely enough for me most of things just work when it comes to Freenet. I don't know if it's my karma or i just don't notice some bumps which attract people, but i hope it stays that way. There are things which are horribly uncomfortable to use, but then i end up changing them so that they are suitable for me. FMS for example is being mirrored to Frost by me, because i find Frost to be better. So if you want to read FMS without the need to post there, you just subscribe to the board "fms-NAME.OF.BOARD" substituting the name of the board on FMS and bingo, you are reading the messages (timestamps and senders are preserved, even threads work if i happen to receive the messages more or less in order). > WoT and Freetalk are still not working - not even after a reinstall of > the unofficial plugins - but as somebody just pointed out, they are > still a work in progress. I have not tried these yet. > Does anyone know when Freenet 0.8 is expected? I understand Freetalk > will be bundled with it, and I hope it can be persuaded to work by then. > Many thanks for all the help! No problems, if you need more you can always ask on Frost, there are many people who will be willing to help... and many trolls too, but you can ignore them. > Kate - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpJy2EACgkQuWy2EFICg+3geACfVQk+ztTkpyVfibi2XaRhL/Gy H7kAn0JtxkWwRqOV/6xyRPL49RkeiKUM =n5Mc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Assistance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kathryn A. Graham wrote: > Thanks for your suggestions, Volodya. > > No, my node is definitely on the same machine where I am trying to run > Frost. I'm on a home network, but my other half is no computer whiz, > and I am the only one experimenting with Freenet as yet. He will be my > test case once I get comfortable with this stuff, and before I try to > write any book chapters about Freenet. If he can do it, any Windows > user can, lol. > > I've checked the ZA programs listing and Frost is not listed as such - > merely as an instance of Java. I've given Java more access than I am > completely comfortable with, but Frost still cannot connect to my node > at all. I've tried turning ZA and Avast off completely, but it still > does not work. The Web of Trust plugin is not working either (for > Freetalk). Just FMS, and only since I reinstalled it a little while > ago. I'm not successfully announced yet, of course, but a few captchas > are trickling in and I can read some messages. > > I'm heartened by tentative success with FMS, and I'm going to reinstall > Web of Trust and see if I can get that working now for Freetalk. > > Kate This is very very strange. FMS is working when Frost isn't, perhaps an insulting question, but where did you get the version of Frost you are running? Can you go to the frost.ini in the config directory and check availableNodes setting? - Volodya >> One more thing, if your node is on the different machine than the >> Frost, (which >> would be the case if you had to forward port 9481) then you have to >> tell the >> frost where to find the node before starting it. Look for 'config' >> directory >> wherever frost is, and edit the file 'frost.ini' (when frost is not >> running) you >> should have a line like: >> availableNodes=127.0.0.1:9481 >> >> You need to change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of where your node is. >> >> Of course this is assuming that your node is at the different machine >> than Frost. >> >>- Volodya >> > - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpJCbQACgkQuWy2EFICg+2dlQCgsOPVToy4h7RMZrlNot8yxruJ zF4AmwYTsrmqqyrwferkuyPr1lYOYPj8 =ZEY1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Assistance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kathryn A. Graham wrote: > Thanks so much to Luke and others for your response! I am attempting to > implement Frost as I type this, and I got a good laugh over "sending IP > address to the NSA." I tried Freetalk as well, with the same result as > FMS. No captchas downloaded no matter what I did. As you can tell by > the delay in my answering your message, I tried it for a couple of > days. I think it is safe to say that no captchas were *going* to > download, which concerns me. There is evidently something in my > configuration that is preventing me from using Web of Trust, although I > can't figure out what it is. > > I have forwarded ports 11231, 57881, 9481 through my router and opened > them through my firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) as well. I have confirmed > that Windows Firewall is *not* running. I have also rebooted several > times. If there is something else I should check, I would > appreciate learning about it. My Windows version is XP Pro, latest > updates and service packs. > > I've just minimized this message and noticed that Frost is hung at about > 2/3 in its starting sequence. I am now going to go drink a large cup of > hemlock. > > A few moments later, it wants me to check my node is running - but it > says it will start anyway. Node is definitely running. I have > confirmed that the service is running, and through the web interface, I > can see that I am connected to one friend and 11 strangers. Now Frost > is using about 55 percent of my CPU and doing nothing that I can see, > but the splash screen has finally gone away. > > An hour later - my HD is being accessed like crazy, but still no sign of > any application. I'm clearly going to have to reboot. > > Terribly, terribly frustrating. And the guy that maintains the active > links page wants new sites announced in FMS, so even if I do get Frost > working, somehow I still have to get Web of Trust stuff working also. > I'm about to throw up my hands and give up. Not worth it. Damned > shame, too - I'd already created a flog and an active link - needed only > to write first blog entry and get it up there. Gr. > > Please - any help greatly appreciated. > > Kate > > One more thing, if your node is on the different machine than the Frost, (which would be the case if you had to forward port 9481) then you have to tell the frost where to find the node before starting it. Look for 'config' directory wherever frost is, and edit the file 'frost.ini' (when frost is not running) you should have a line like: availableNodes=127.0.0.1:9481 You need to change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of where your node is. Of course this is assuming that your node is at the different machine than Frost. - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpI++cACgkQuWy2EFICg+0kqACfZoLa0dv+UCvYqCS2yuyBb9TF 9K8An06JlwwWEf799uLD3BpGt1jNVPis =7tCq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Assistance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kathryn A. Graham wrote: > Thanks so much to Luke and others for your response! I am attempting to > implement Frost as I type this, and I got a good laugh over "sending IP > address to the NSA." I tried Freetalk as well, with the same result as > FMS. No captchas downloaded no matter what I did. As you can tell by > the delay in my answering your message, I tried it for a couple of > days. I think it is safe to say that no captchas were *going* to > download, which concerns me. There is evidently something in my > configuration that is preventing me from using Web of Trust, although I > can't figure out what it is. > > I have forwarded ports 11231, 57881, 9481 through my router and opened > them through my firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) as well. I have confirmed > that Windows Firewall is *not* running. I have also rebooted several > times. If there is something else I should check, I would > appreciate learning about it. My Windows version is XP Pro, latest > updates and service packs. > > I've just minimized this message and noticed that Frost is hung at about > 2/3 in its starting sequence. I am now going to go drink a large cup of > hemlock. > > A few moments later, it wants me to check my node is running - but it > says it will start anyway. Node is definitely running. I have > confirmed that the service is running, and through the web interface, I > can see that I am connected to one friend and 11 strangers. Now Frost > is using about 55 percent of my CPU and doing nothing that I can see, > but the splash screen has finally gone away. > > An hour later - my HD is being accessed like crazy, but still no sign of > any application. I'm clearly going to have to reboot. > > Terribly, terribly frustrating. And the guy that maintains the active > links page wants new sites announced in FMS, so even if I do get Frost > working, somehow I still have to get Web of Trust stuff working also. > I'm about to throw up my hands and give up. Not worth it. Damned > shame, too - I'd already created a flog and an active link - needed only > to write first blog entry and get it up there. Gr. > > Please - any help greatly appreciated. > > Kate I can't help you with FMS, i've given up on that (i'm not going to rant about it). It's still used by a few people but from what my node picks up there are significantly more active conversations on Frost, unfortunately developers have stopped reading all the bug reports there *cough*. The problem seems to be that something has stopped Frost connecting to your node. Is your node running on the same machine? If so then you did *not* need to forward 9481 port on the router, but you might have needed to open it on Zone Alarm anyhow (i'm not sure). Now, Zone Alarm also keeps track of what applications try to access the network, Frost needs to be one of them, even though it only accesses the node (and i believe you can specify that) it needs to have that access, otherwise that might be causing the problem. Can you check that and get back to me on the list? - Volodya P.S. You don't want to post the Node ports on the open list, because this way others will be able to know that it's you who has connected to them. Of course if it doesn't matter, then it's ok, but it creates an atmosphere where others may slip and post that info also. - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpI+jUACgkQuWy2EFICg+0U1gCdEz5LJZPkHAQIS623pQKs/PTi whwAnRqc8AuNY+a/sJe8ki4ps06sRQn6 =g8JZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Egbert van der Meer wrote: > I have installed freenet several times but I can not get it running. > The installation itself go's with no problem but I can not get anything > from the network. > An earlier version of frost also does not work since no messages are > coming in. > Also in fuquid no blocks are received at all. > Also it fails to download any of the bookmarks on the home page. > If you need any more detailed information in order to pin point the > problem I would be glad to sent it to you. > Thank you in advance for your assistance. > > E.vd Meer. Ok, i'll give it a try... 1. Have you connected to any of your friends over freenet or (alternatively) enabled connections to strangers? 2. Did you give your Freenet node a little time to run? 3. Fuqid no longer downloads anything, node does all the downloads and inserts, Fuqid has been hacked to work with 0,7 but it is no longer really necessary. 4. What do you mean by "older version of Frost"? How much older? - Volodya - -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko40REACgkQuWy2EFICg+1cvACfbD4/QT5c6b0YVIfwoFv8YLeA Kt8An0gqVIJ9XrQBSIZSqFONuUw/Z+db =z/8e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet
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> What OS do you use for Freenet?
Ubuntu GNU/Linux 9.04
> What is your current datastore size set to?
20 GiB
> What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
220 KiB/sec
> What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
50 KiB/sec
> This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...
Yippie!
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Re: [freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet
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> What OS do you use for Freenet?
Ubuntu GNU/Linux 9.04
> What is your current datastore size set to?
20 GiB
> What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
220 KiB/sec
> What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
50 KiB/sec
> This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...
Yippie!
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[freenet-support] Why is the development of the freenet project going so slow
bqz69 wrote: > I was just wondering? > > I have tried out freenet for years, but it still seems not to be ready > for serious use by individual people, that is the huge group of ordinary > people out there on the Internet, who are in serious need for a Freenet. > > It can be used mostly only by small groups of smart people, who are more > or less programmers, really friends, closed groups or alike. > > I find freenet to be a very important project, for the freedom of speech > of the world, but freenet seems to have stopped up in its development. > > It is still quite difficult to use and setup for normal people, I find, > and not many people have "frinds" to exchange nodes with, in order to > become anonymous. > > The internet is in the middle of a very fast development phase, but > freenet just sits there more or less sleeping. > > I do not have any capabilities of programming myself, and is only a > possibly enduser of Freenet. > > Maybe some forces do not want Freenet to develop - or maybe it is really > only intended for small closed groups of people? > > Interested in hearing some comments *smile* Not many people having friends is really a weird comment seeing how social networking sites manage to gather people more and more. Even some anarchist sites that i know of are planning to release their social network portals, and that is incredible, seeing how you will have an argument with only two anarchists in the same room. - Volodya - -- http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Why is the development of the freenet project going so slow
bqz69 wrote: > I was just wondering? > > I have tried out freenet for years, but it still seems not to be ready > for serious use by individual people, that is the huge group of ordinary > people out there on the Internet, who are in serious need for a Freenet. > > It can be used mostly only by small groups of smart people, who are more > or less programmers, really friends, closed groups or alike. > > I find freenet to be a very important project, for the freedom of speech > of the world, but freenet seems to have stopped up in its development. > > It is still quite difficult to use and setup for normal people, I find, > and not many people have "frinds" to exchange nodes with, in order to > become anonymous. > > The internet is in the middle of a very fast development phase, but > freenet just sits there more or less sleeping. > > I do not have any capabilities of programming myself, and is only a > possibly enduser of Freenet. > > Maybe some forces do not want Freenet to develop - or maybe it is really > only intended for small closed groups of people? > > Interested in hearing some comments *smile* Not many people having friends is really a weird comment seeing how social networking sites manage to gather people more and more. Even some anarchist sites that i know of are planning to release their social network portals, and that is incredible, seeing how you will have an argument with only two anarchists in the same room. - Volodya - -- http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Freenet is on the surble
Freenet's web url is on SURBLE black list, somebody should take a look at how to remove it. http://www.surbl.org/ -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
[freenet-support] Freenet is on the surble
Freenet's web url is on SURBLE black list, somebody should take a look at how to remove it. http://www.surbl.org/ -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Freenet and firewall
Luke771 wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:31:46 +0100 > "3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i" <3buib3s50i at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you for your reply. >> >> I tried to block all traffic. Everything is blocked, except Freenet and >> TOR. >> >> I wanted to allow only the IP ranges of some countries. And allow connection >> to seednodes. This is an intermediate solution between darknet and opennet. > > No, this is nonsense. > You can run darknet, opennet, or even both side by side, but there's no such > thing as an 'intermediate solution' The idea of blocking whole countries > (based on -what? biased information from the propaganda machine?) makes no > sense at all. Please reconsider your position. There was shitlist on 0,5 right before 0,7 got released. I even contributed to it by writing range thingy rather than being able to block a single ip at the time. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet and firewall
Luke771 wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:31:46 +0100 > "3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i" <3buib3s...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you for your reply. >> >> I tried to block all traffic. Everything is blocked, except Freenet and >> TOR. >> >> I wanted to allow only the IP ranges of some countries. And allow connection >> to seednodes. This is an intermediate solution between darknet and opennet. > > No, this is nonsense. > You can run darknet, opennet, or even both side by side, but there's no such > thing as an 'intermediate solution' The idea of blocking whole countries > (based on -what? biased information from the propaganda machine?) makes no > sense at all. Please reconsider your position. There was shitlist on 0,5 right before 0,7 got released. I even contributed to it by writing range thingy rather than being able to block a single ip at the time. - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Bug?
Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 14:57, Volodya wrote: >> Mel Charters wrote: >>> Probably a bug: please report: 6 peers forcibly disconnected due to not >>> acknowledging packets. >>> 6 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets >>> even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. >>> Please report it to us at the bug tracker at >>> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to the support mailing list >>> support at freenetproject.org. Please include this message and what version >>> of the node you are running. The affected peers (you may not want to >>> include this in your bug report if they are darknet peers) are: >>> >>> * 80.67.126.33:48685 >>> * 91.114.90.176:50370 >>> * 70.252.130.137:62819 >>> * 74.192.11.111:1030 >>> * 68.164.92.215:5510 >>> * 88.115.66.96:8421 >>> >>> Freenet 0.7 Build #1191 r24115M >>> Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 >>> >>> May be from #1190. Build #1191 appeared within the last 10 hours. >>> -- >>> Mel Charters >> Have you restarted your node since Saturday at midnight? > > Unfortunately that's now Tuesday... I just got the same thing. I repeat, the bug is still there (although not as dominant as before). - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Bug?
Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 14:57, Volodya wrote: >> Mel Charters wrote: >>> Probably a bug: please report: 6 peers forcibly disconnected due to not >>> acknowledging packets. >>> 6 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets >>> even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. >>> Please report it to us at the bug tracker at >>> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to the support mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include this message and what version >>> of the node you are running. The affected peers (you may not want to >>> include this in your bug report if they are darknet peers) are: >>> >>> * 80.67.126.33:48685 >>> * 91.114.90.176:50370 >>> * 70.252.130.137:62819 >>> * 74.192.11.111:1030 >>> * 68.164.92.215:5510 >>> * 88.115.66.96:8421 >>> >>> Freenet 0.7 Build #1191 r24115M >>> Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 >>> >>> May be from #1190. Build #1191 appeared within the last 10 hours. >>> -- >>> Mel Charters >> Have you restarted your node since Saturday at midnight? > > Unfortunately that's now Tuesday... I just got the same thing. I repeat, the bug is still there (although not as dominant as before). - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Bug?
Mel Charters wrote: > > Probably a bug: please report: 6 peers forcibly disconnected due to not > acknowledging packets. > 6 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets > even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. > Please report it to us at the bug tracker at > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to the support mailing list > support at freenetproject.org. Please include this message and what version > of the node you are running. The affected peers (you may not want to > include this in your bug report if they are darknet peers) are: > > * 80.67.126.33:48685 > * 91.114.90.176:50370 > * 70.252.130.137:62819 > * 74.192.11.111:1030 > * 68.164.92.215:5510 > * 88.115.66.96:8421 > > Freenet 0.7 Build #1191 r24115M > Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 > > May be from #1190. Build #1191 appeared within the last 10 hours. > -- > Mel Charters Have you restarted your node since Saturday at midnight? -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Bug?
Mel Charters wrote: > > Probably a bug: please report: 6 peers forcibly disconnected due to not > acknowledging packets. > 6 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets > even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. > Please report it to us at the bug tracker at > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to the support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include this message and what version > of the node you are running. The affected peers (you may not want to > include this in your bug report if they are darknet peers) are: > > * 80.67.126.33:48685 > * 91.114.90.176:50370 > * 70.252.130.137:62819 > * 74.192.11.111:1030 > * 68.164.92.215:5510 > * 88.115.66.96:8421 > > Freenet 0.7 Build #1191 r24115M > Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 > > May be from #1190. Build #1191 appeared within the last 10 hours. > -- > Mel Charters Have you restarted your node since Saturday at midnight? -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Install?
mihail at riseup.net wrote: >> Can you please send me your wrapper.log? This will be in the same >> directory as >> the node was installed to. > > Can't say I understand how to do this ... > >> And are you sure that Start Freenet, Stop Freenet, Browse Freenet aren't >> on >> your start menu? Under "All Programs", under "The Free Network Project" >> ... > > Definitely. > > I gave up on Windows and went over to the Linux side of my computer but > didn't have any success there either. > > I followed the instructions here: > http://freenetproject.org/download.html > > and got the following output: > me at me:~$ wget > http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > --16:54:03-- > http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `new_installer.jar' > Resolving downloads.freenetproject.org... 89.16.176.201 > Connecting to downloads.freenetproject.org|89.16.176.201|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found > Location: > http://get.freenetproject.org/get.php?location=/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > [following] > --16:54:03-- > http://get.freenetproject.org/get.php?location=/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `get.php?location=%2Falpha%2Finstaller%2Fnew_installer.jar' > Resolving get.freenetproject.org... 89.16.176.201 > Reusing existing connection to downloads.freenetproject.org:80. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found > Location: > http://mirror2.freenetproject.org//alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > [following] > --16:54:03-- > http://mirror2.freenetproject.org//alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `new_installer.jar' > Resolving mirror2.freenetproject.org... 92.243.9.147 > Connecting to mirror2.freenetproject.org|92.243.9.147|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 1,481,085 (1.4M) [application/java-archive] > > 100%[>] 1,481,085425.35K/sETA > 00:00 > > 16:54:07 (419.43 KB/s) - `new_installer.jar' saved [1481085/1481085] > > me at me-laptop:~$ java -jar new_installer.jar > Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: > gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit It looks like you might be using java which is not Sun's, try running: sudo update-java-alternatives (if you are on debian-like gnu/linux) if you don't see something which is sun there, you will need to install that first. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Install?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Can you please send me your wrapper.log? This will be in the same >> directory as >> the node was installed to. > > Can't say I understand how to do this ... > >> And are you sure that Start Freenet, Stop Freenet, Browse Freenet aren't >> on >> your start menu? Under "All Programs", under "The Free Network Project" >> ... > > Definitely. > > I gave up on Windows and went over to the Linux side of my computer but > didn't have any success there either. > > I followed the instructions here: > http://freenetproject.org/download.html > > and got the following output: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wget > http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > --16:54:03-- > http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `new_installer.jar' > Resolving downloads.freenetproject.org... 89.16.176.201 > Connecting to downloads.freenetproject.org|89.16.176.201|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found > Location: > http://get.freenetproject.org/get.php?location=/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > [following] > --16:54:03-- > http://get.freenetproject.org/get.php?location=/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `get.php?location=%2Falpha%2Finstaller%2Fnew_installer.jar' > Resolving get.freenetproject.org... 89.16.176.201 > Reusing existing connection to downloads.freenetproject.org:80. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found > Location: > http://mirror2.freenetproject.org//alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > [following] > --16:54:03-- > http://mirror2.freenetproject.org//alpha/installer/new_installer.jar >=> `new_installer.jar' > Resolving mirror2.freenetproject.org... 92.243.9.147 > Connecting to mirror2.freenetproject.org|92.243.9.147|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 1,481,085 (1.4M) [application/java-archive] > > 100%[>] 1,481,085425.35K/sETA > 00:00 > > 16:54:07 (419.43 KB/s) - `new_installer.jar' saved [1481085/1481085] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ java -jar new_installer.jar > Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: > gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit It looks like you might be using java which is not Sun's, try running: sudo update-java-alternatives (if you are on debian-like gnu/linux) if you don't see something which is sun there, you will need to install that first. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Version 1179?
Volodya wrote: > bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: >> Many of my peers seem to run 1179 since this morning. I got no notice >> about this version via mailing list, >> and my node (1178) doesn't offer me this new version for update. >> Is something broken? update.cmd also doesn't work, see my previous >> mail that was completely ignored ^^ >> > > Same here. Sorry, just tried ./update.sh again, and it worked. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
[freenet-support] Version 1179?
bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: > Many of my peers seem to run 1179 since this morning. I got no notice > about this version via mailing list, > and my node (1178) doesn't offer me this new version for update. > Is something broken? update.cmd also doesn't work, see my previous > mail that was completely ignored ^^ > Same here. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Version 1179?
Volodya wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Many of my peers seem to run 1179 since this morning. I got no notice >> about this version via mailing list, >> and my node (1178) doesn't offer me this new version for update. >> Is something broken? update.cmd also doesn't work, see my previous >> mail that was completely ignored ^^ >> > > Same here. Sorry, just tried ./update.sh again, and it worked. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Version 1179?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Many of my peers seem to run 1179 since this morning. I got no notice > about this version via mailing list, > and my node (1178) doesn't offer me this new version for update. > Is something broken? update.cmd also doesn't work, see my previous > mail that was completely ignored ^^ > Same here. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] ARKs USKs and SSKs (from Frost)
Somebody has asked me to send this (i will post the original in Russian and then the translation done by me) (please note that i don't really think that all of this makes sense, i'm an interpreter) == Original == ? USK ??? ?? ARK ? ? ??. ?? ???: ??? ?? ? IP, ??? ? ?? ??? ??? ? ?, ? ?? ARK ?? ?, ??? ?? ???, ?? ?? ?? ?? - ? ??? ? "???" ?? , ? ??? ?? . ? ??, ??, ?? ? ?? "" ? ?? ?? ARK ?? ? 4 ??, ??? ??? ?? ??? USK - ? ? "???" ARK ??? ??. ??? ? ??? , ?? ?? ? ? ??? IP. ? ??? ? ?? ?? ARK ?? ??, ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ? ??? ?? ?? ?? 5 ?? 100 ?? ? ? ? (??? ? ??? ?? ???, ? ?? ??). ??? ?? ? ?? ?? 4, ? 44 ??? ??. ?? ??? ?? USK/SSK ?? ? ?? ? ??? ? ?? ? ?? SSK, ? ?? ?? ???. ??? ??? , ??? ?? ? SSK ? ??? ? ???, ? ? ??? ? ?? ?. ? ?, _???_ ? ??? , ??? ?? ??? ??? ? , ? ??? ?? ? ?? ?? ?? ?. ? ?? (?? ?) ?? ??? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ??? SSK. ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ?? SSK ? ?? ?? ? ? ??? ? ??? ??? ? ???, ? ? ? ?? SSK. ??? ?? ? ?? ? ?? ?? ?. ? ?, ??? ??? ?? ?? ??, ? ? ?? ? ?? SSK - ? ?? ??? ? ???. ? ??? ? ??? ?? ? ?? ? ?? SSK ?? ? ?? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ???, ??? ??? ? ??. ??? ?? ???, ? ? ? ??? ? ?? ??? : ? ?? (??? ? ?? ???), ? (?? , ? ?? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ???) ??? ?? ? ??? ? ?? SSK, ?? ?? ? SSK ? ?? ?? ?? ??? ?? ? ?? ?? - ?? ? ??? ??? ?? ? ??? (??? ?? ??? ? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??). ??? ? ? ??? ?? ARK, ? ? ? ??? ? ?? ?? ARK, ?? ??? ?? ? ?, ??? ? ?? ? ? . ? ? ??? ?? ?, ?? ?? ?? ?? ?: ?? ARK ?? ? ??? ? "???" ?? , ?? ??? ? ?? ??? ? - ? ??? ??? ??, ?? ? ? IP, ?? ?? ARK. == Translation == Using of USK for the implimentation of ARK has obvious downfalls. One of them is that during the rapid change of IP, for example during the change of the version of the node or during the repeated connection loss, number of ARK increases rapidly, and during this process there is no attempt to check if previous versions are still accessible; and they can "fall out" from the network, if almost instantaneously other nodes are restarting. As a result, as it seems, quite often "breaks" in the sequence of ARK appear with the length of more than 4 versions, which is a requirement for the working of normal USK; this leads to the search for the "new" ARK number giving no results. This is especially important for the nodes working less than 24 hours a day and having a dynamic IP. One solution may be a request for ARK far ahead, say a few times with the random increase of a version number from 5 to 100 related to the existing one (of course distributed not equally, but maybe as a reverse exponent). Or a dumb request for 44 rather than 4 following versions. Another bug problem of USK/SSK is related to the algorithm of attempting repeat write to the existing SSK, when a specific version is provided. Node after finding that another programme attempts to write SSK with the already existing version immediately interrupts the request and notifies the programme. Unfortunately _ALL_ the programmes after that assume that information is already on the network, and if no new information exists do nothi
[freenet-support] ARKs USKs and SSKs (from Frost)
Somebody has asked me to send this (i will post the original in Russian and then the translation done by me) (please note that i don't really think that all of this makes sense, i'm an interpreter) == Original == Использование USK для реализации ARK имеет явные недостатки. Один из них: при частой смене IP, например при изменении версий узла или при повторяющихся разрывах связи, номер версии ARK быстро увеличивается, при этом не проверяется, являются ли доступными предыдущие версии - а они могут "выпасть" из сети, если почти одновременно перезагружаются другие узлы. В результате, похоже, достаточно часто появляются "пропуски" в последовательности версий ARK длиной более 4 номера, необходимых для работы обычных USK - и поиск "свежего" значения ARK оказывается безуспешен. Это особенно важно для улов, работающих не круглосуточно и имеющих динамический IP. Вариантом решения может быть запрос версий ARK далеко вперёд, скажем ещё несколько раз со случайным увеличением номера версии от 5 до 100 по сравнению с имеющимся (естественно распределение вероятности не равномерное, а например по обратной экспоненте). Или просто тупой запрос не 4, а 44 последующих версий. Другой крупный недостаток USK/SSK связан с алгоритмом обработки попыток повторной записи имеющейся версии SSK, когда конкретная версия указана. Узел при обнаружении того, что другая программа пытается записать SSK с уже имеющейся версией, сразу прерывает обаботку запроса и сообщает об этом программе. К сожалению, _ВСЕ_ программы при этом полагают, что информация уже имеется в сети, и при отсутствии новой информации ничего не предпринимают. В лучшем (но неоптимальном) случае они пытаются записать ту же информацию с новой версией SSK. Правильным поведением программ было бы запросить у узла имеющуюся версию SSK в полном объёме и проверить полноту и тождественность полученного с тем, чтобы исключить появление нечитаемых SSK. При ошибке получения данных необходимость перезаписи становится очевидной. К сожалению, даже если заранее известно что записываемые данные не изменились, программы вынуждены записывать новую версию SSK - иначе узел просто повторно прервёт обработку запроса. Вариантом решения может быть или выполнение узлом операции перезаписи имеющейся версии SSK до успешного завершения и лишь затем новый вариант ответного сообщения программе о том, что была успешно перезаписана имеющаяся версия. Или введение нового запроса, когда программа указывает узлу как поступать если версия уже есть: повторить запись (как в первом решении), проконтролировать идентичность (то есть узлу, а не программе запросить имеющуюся информацию и сравнить с поступившей) или просто проверить доступность имеющейся версии SSK, то есть попытаться прочитать SSK в полном объёме но без вывода и сохранения данных - только проверить что все данные в наличии (или по крайней мере сохранившихся блоков достаточно для полного восстановления). Это важно и для работы ARK, поскольку часто после перезагрузки узла нет необходимости менять версию ARK, но при этом необходимо регулярно проверить, что имеющаяся версия действительно доступна в сети. Иначе могут отключаться даже соседи узлов, непрерывно работающих на постоянном адесе: неизменный ARK такого узла с течением времени может "выпасть" из сети, но сам узел этого не заметит даже после перезагрузки - а вот его соседи, за время перезагрузки сменившие IP, не смогут получить этот ARK. == Translation == Using of USK for the implimentation of ARK has obvious downfalls. One of them is that during the rapid change of IP, for example during the change of the version of the node or during the repeated connection loss, number of ARK increases rapidly, and during this process there is no attempt to check if previous versions are still accessible; and they can "fall out" from the network, if almost instantaneously other nodes are restarting. As a result, as it seems, quite often "breaks" in the sequence of ARK appear with the length of more than 4 versions, which is a requirement for the working of normal USK; this leads to the search for the "new" ARK number giving no results. This is especially important for the nodes working less than 24 hours a day and having a dynamic IP. One solution may be a request for ARK far ahead, say a few times with the random increase of a version number from 5 to 100 related to the existing one (of course distributed not equally, but maybe as a reverse exponent). Or a dumb request for 44 rather than 4 following versions. Another bug problem of USK/SSK is related to the algorithm of attempting repeat write to the existing SSK, when a specific version is provided. Node after finding that another programme attempts to write SSK with the already existing version immediately interrupts the request and notifies the programme. Unfortunately _ALL_ the programmes after that assume that information is already on the network, and if no new information exists do nothi
[freenet-support] upgrading node
robert fallis wrote: > I've been away for a few weeks. and I now get a message to upgrade my node. > my node is set to automatic update but it has not worked, How do I > upgrade my node? > help please > bob > On Windows you can open Command Prompt and go to the folder where freenet is and type: update.cmd (i think that's what it's called there now) On *nix you go to the directory where you have installed Freenet and type: ./update.sh - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] upgrading node
robert fallis wrote: > I've been away for a few weeks. and I now get a message to upgrade my node. > my node is set to automatic update but it has not worked, How do I > upgrade my node? > help please > bob > On Windows you can open Command Prompt and go to the folder where freenet is and type: update.cmd (i think that's what it's called there now) On *nix you go to the directory where you have installed Freenet and type: ./update.sh - Volodya -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://www.freedomporn.org/ Freedom Porn, anarchist and activist smut "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 36, Issue 5
> I am contemplating trying out the new salted-hash datastore. I read that > it requires double the amount of space as the size of datastore to do > the conversion and i'm sure it will be a time-consuming event, so I will > wait for a few days when I have some free time. > toad did mentioned in another thread that it may reduce the "thrashing" > that the Berkeley DB was doing on my old dead drive. I'm not sure what > killed my 2 year old SATA drive that was dedicated purely to my freenet > node, but I'm leaning toward the constant cycle of creating and deleting > 40,000 odd files upon each re-start. That' gotta take it's toll after a > few years of that so maybe the other model of DB will work better. It's > worth a try IMOH because I don't want to have to go through re-doing the > node if another hard drive craps out. If you say that you have for the most part lost your datastore than you should do the change sooner rather than later. Personally i have changed after completely losing the whole store, as i had nothing to lose at the time, and i am very satisfied with the way salted-hash worked for me. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://freenetproject.org/ The Free Network project "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 36, Issue 5
> I am contemplating trying out the new salted-hash datastore. I read that > it requires double the amount of space as the size of datastore to do > the conversion and i'm sure it will be a time-consuming event, so I will > wait for a few days when I have some free time. > toad did mentioned in another thread that it may reduce the "thrashing" > that the Berkeley DB was doing on my old dead drive. I'm not sure what > killed my 2 year old SATA drive that was dedicated purely to my freenet > node, but I'm leaning toward the constant cycle of creating and deleting > 40,000 odd files upon each re-start. That' gotta take it's toll after a > few years of that so maybe the other model of DB will work better. It's > worth a try IMOH because I don't want to have to go through re-doing the > node if another hard drive craps out. If you say that you have for the most part lost your datastore than you should do the change sooner rather than later. Personally i have changed after completely losing the whole store, as i had nothing to lose at the time, and i am very satisfied with the way salted-hash worked for me. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://freenetproject.org/ The Free Network project "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] How to announce a freesite anonymously
bqz69 wrote: > I have published two small test sites (index.html - activelink.png - an > archive file with some images) - using jsite. > > It works fine, when I download them to myself. > > But how do you get freesites onto the freenet indexes anonymously in the > spirit of Freenet. > > I had expected a electronic spider to put activelinks onto an index page but > I > read following on top of "Freenet Activelink Index", which surprises me very > much: > > "This index is manually maintained and at the moment I will include pretty > much any site that has an activelink, except for sites.." ? > > - which to me indicates that freesites are not anonymously announced, and > not > free of censorship? > > I am on FMS, but I would prefer a "spider" to announce freesites without any > human person interferring? > > Is it possible to get freesites onto any of the indexes without any > censorship? Whether or not an index censors its contents depends upon the person who makes an index. If you believe that all indexes are censored, start your own, i will definitely start using it. To get your site in some indexes anonymously you might want to create a throw away identity on FMS and post to the 'sites' (no quotes) board. - Volodya P.S. Unfortunately i see a lot more pro-censorship folks on 0,7 then use to be on 0,5. I don't really know how this happened, but the trend needs to be reversed. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://freenetproject.org/ The Free Network project "None of us are free until all of us are free."~ Mihail Bakunin
