Re: send a reply sometimes keeps show progress bar after item sent and copy finished.
Phillip Jones wrote: On occasion I find that after clicking send for a reply or new message Progress bar still indicates sending and not says Copy finished (a copy has been copied to my sent folder). can dismiss the window the message has been copied and I find my post has been sent. SM2 Mac OSX.4.11 1MB DSL Up download speed. PB 17 1,67GB Processor. Does not happen on every message. I hope no. I experienced the same problem using: SeaMonkey 1.1.14 - windows XP SP3 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 NOT Firefox/3.5.4 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 And i did not expect a patch to solve this, because nobody can reproduce at will. Therefore, you must live with this unresolved bug. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
psuatocobra wrote: On Nov 12, 2:03 pm, Benoit Renard Yet RC2 and the final version are identical, so it doesn't sound like it came from a change in SeaMonkey (as there was none). Yes that makes sense. If you want to check out what is going on on the McAfee side, go to Site Advisor Service conflicts with SeaMonkey 2.0, http://community.mcafee.com/message/97378 Please chime in. Account creation is required to input to any of the The McAfeeCommunity discusions. The good news is that their account creation routine does not check if you're a customer. At least it didn't when I created mine. P.A.C. I readed there ... However we do need to have the SeaMonkey Project folks *work* *with* *us* as it may not be just a McAfee issue. So i doubt that this problem will be solved :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: installed SeaMonkey 2 and most recent sent messages are lost :-(
Finrod wrote: hi! as from the subject... I've upgraded to Mozilla 2 on a PowerMac G4 and OS Tiger... sadly the new version can't see the messages sent after sometimes in 2007... there's a way to recover them? Also it seems not to load the 2 different profiles I had previously... there's something to be done to sort this nuisance?!? thanks Finrod Finrod, as I understand things, when you install SM 2.0, it goes looking for your default profile and imports that into SM 2.0! If you created yourself new profiles, up to two years ago, SM 2.0 will not find them, just the default profile. Do a system wide search for inbox (without the inverted commas) and see how many you find. Your newer profiles will probably show up there. Report back and maybe one of the Mac Experts here will tell you how to maneuver the old profiles into your new set-up. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trouble installing newsfox update
dukester wrote: Hey... DLed the latest newfox .xpi file. I used: File Open File xpi_file but I keep getting the error: The installation of Newsfox failed One of the files being overwritten is read-only I'm using V1.1.18 on OS X 10.5.8 Any ideas? TIA... -- Is it possible, dukestar, that the latest newsfox is intended for SM 2.0?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
Benoit Renard wrote: snip There's no need to save the program folder. You can just reinstall SeaMonkey from the installer. I disagree. If you do not, chances are you will lose most of the add-ons you installed. -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug:Dragging a link to addressbar simply appends it to existing URL.
Rex wrote: Daniel wrote: Rex, why would you want to drag it to the address bar?? Why not just click on it?? (I know you say you can do it in FF, I'm just wondering why anybody would want to??) Daniel I use the LinkAlert extension, which shows a mouseover icon to indicate the type of URL pointed to. Sometimes a link is set to open in a new window/tab whereas I want it to open in the current tab only. So I find it easy to just drag the link to the current tab's addressbar. Years of being accustomed to FF's memory leaks has habitualized me to minimize the number of open tabs as much as I can, so if the current page with the link I want is not interesting enough for me, I'd rather reuse the tab than open another one. - It's not *you* that is the problem, it's all the other people on the net. -- Peter da Silva - O.K., ta Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
opening .eml files in seamonkey mail-window
Hi, Does anybody know how to convince seamonkey to open .eml-files not in the browser-, but in the mail-window? Thanks for tipps and for the work of the seamonkey-developpers. Gerd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can no longer post in newsgroups
On 13.11.2009 00:02, u...@domain.invalid wrote: --- Original Message --- with seamonkey With seamonkey .. ok, how about posting some specific information as to your support issue. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can no longer post in newsgroups
On 13.11.2009 00:10, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: --- Original Message --- with seamonkey 2 Please post relevant info as to your support issue. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can no longer post in newsgroups
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rainer Bielefeld: with seamonkey 2 More info please. I had this problem after migration, I could not post to my old newsgroups. When I created a new newsgroup (had to delete the old one), then I could post. When I tried to post a saved newsgroup post that was in drafts, I got a message: This account only supports e-mail recipients. Continuing will ignore newsgroups I wonder if this may help shed some light on the original problem. Regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue
NoOp wrote: On 11/11/2009 02:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I have put my full config up as screen shots: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/ Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than always offer auth my working server definitions, those without auth needed, are identical. I have Fails for me about 2:1 over Works for me, but obviously it works for someone. Linux, Fedora-11, updated a few days ago. You know, I offered some time back to assist you off list/group. That would have included sending you screenshots, but your reply was: So not sure what the issue could be on your system. However, for the sake of keeping this thread to a minimum, I'll be happy to test other scenarios if you'll contact me directly (just drop the .invalid from the email address keep the same subject so that I don't automatically drop the msg in the spam filters). I can test on linux (ubuntu 9.04 9.10 - gnome only, I'm alergic to kde), WinXPPro Win2KPro (both fully updated). I noted the test I made, new profile, new install with no migration, even new Fedora in a fresh virtual machine. All behave the same. No clue... :-( So good luck with that. I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? NNTP = SMTP, SMTP is mail, used when you reply all or similar. If SM2 is trying to use that for the NNTP POST command it is sadly broken. However, since other news servers, authenticated and not, work just fine with that outgoing SMTP server setting, I assume the problem is elsewhere. In hopes of someone having a clue where 'elsewhere' might be I put up the screenshots. I think it points to an error inside SM2 that this happens only on this server which doesn't demand authentication, and one other similar (non-public) server which also allows access to small information without auth. It seems possible that the lack of a demand for auth: 480 authentication required may somehow confuse SM, although I don't quite see how. In any case, it never even tries to POST, suggesting that internally the connection has been identified as read-only. I have no idea what would cause that. Does this extra information give anyone a clue? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue
Bill Davidsen: Does this extra information give anyone a clue? You should really provide a log of what happens between SM2 and eternal when you try to post. One possibility is ngrep. Another one is https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue
NoOp wrote: On 11/11/2009 04:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? But that's for SMTP and not NNTP. :) No. If you wish to post to news.ethernal-september.org (or any other nntp group) you need to provide an outgoing smtp connection/setup/server. No. SMTP is needed only for PMs when replying to a posting. Otherwise how do you expect the msg get sent? Well, there are the settings for the newsserver. ;) Have you looked at _your_ 'Outgoing Server (SMTP)' setting for _this_ newsgroup? Does it say 'localhost (Default)'? Does it work with that setting? Look here. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/et091112.png (21 KB) What you fail to provide is the screenshot for the outgoing server. Are you telling me that you can post to news.ethernal-september.org (other than there ethernal-september.org newsgroups without an email address and using localhost as your outgoing nntp server? And here is a posting to eternal using localhost for SMTP. 4afb54a4.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de How in the f*$ is anyone supposed to find that? We've been through this previously; google is *not* everyone's friend. And even if it were, why bother to use it to find your post. If you can't simply post a url and/or a newsgroup subject on ethernal-september.org then don't bother posting your silly 4afb54a4.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. I suspect you don't understand NNTP... you can ask for an article by Message-ID, you don't *need* group, subject, etc. Are you just obtuse, lazy, or both? Your post brings to mind the terms rude and ignorant. You don't know how to use the information, therefore he is lazy? Regardless, you require a valid smtp email address to post to news.. No, you don't! You don't use SMTP for news, different port, different protocol. You may need one for the verification when getting a password. ;) And you didn't when posting to something other than 'eternal-september.xyx and could post to something like alt.os.linux.ubuntu via news.ethernal-september.org? How interesting odd. I guess that would mean that anyone can post to their newsserver and simply bypass the requirements outlined in: http://www.eternal-september.org/ http://www.eternal-september.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php?language=en Don't tell the spammers... they'll start spamming all the newsgroups via eternal-steptember.org... You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and authenticate. After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
NoOp wrote: On 11/03/2009 09:34 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: ... So not sure what the issue could be on your system. However, for the sake of keeping this thread to a minimum, I'll be happy to test other scenarios if you'll contact me directly (just drop the .invalid from the email address keep the same subject so that I don't automatically drop the msg in the spam filters). I can test on linux (ubuntu 9.04 9.10 - gnome only, I'm alergic to kde), WinXPPro Win2KPro (both fully updated). I noted the test I made, new profile, new install with no migration, even new Fedora in a fresh virtual machine. All behave the same. No clue... :-( Could it be that the VM is the issue? Do you experience the same on a non VM? Yes, I even tried creating a whole new user on a machine I just built, installed SM2.0 (not one of the snapshots), no add-on or themes, and it still happens. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
On 11/12/2009 11:29 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Thus, in light of what I have read, I am wondering if it would wise for me to wait for a future release of SeaMonkey before upgrading my system...I suppose I am hoping that some changes will be incorporated into a future upgrade, that would make the move go more smoothly. Any comments would be appreciated. You may want to wait for some minor release, e.g. SeaMonkey 2.0.1 or 2.0.2. You should not wait for SeaMonkey 2.1, though, since that one will probably give a worse migration experience (AFAIK the ability to migrate download history will be removed in that version). Is there an ETA for the next version (minor or major)? -- If you're an ant, and you're walking along across the top of a cup of pudding, you probably have no idea that the only thing between you and disaster is the strength of that pudding skin. --Jack Handy from Saturday Night Live /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue
On 11/13/2009 06:04 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and authenticate. After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server. Perhaps you missed: news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@mozilla.org (Thanks to Harmut for pointing out how to do that :-) Again, my apologies. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue
NoOp: news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@mozilla.org One caveat. A link in this form is OK for people which are subscribed to news.mozilla.org. But they have not to be subscribed there when accessing this NG. And clicking on this link would create an account of news.mozilla.org for them. Without questioning. ;) Better is a MID. Most UAs can handle MIDs internally, but SM needs an Add-on. Unfortunately. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
Ant wrote: Is there an ETA for the next version (minor or major)? Minor: Next month I'd say (KaiRo is on vacation until the 29th). Major: No ETA whatsoever. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
On 11/13/2009 9:18 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Ant wrote: Is there an ETA for the next version (minor or major)? Minor: Next month I'd say (KaiRo is on vacation until the 29th). Major: No ETA whatsoever. Thanks Jens. :) -- Oh bother, said Winnie the Pooh, There's an ant on my foot... /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple user/passwords
On 12 Nov., 21:38, BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote: On or about 11/12/2009 10:39 AM, Phillip Jones typed the following: BeeNeR wrote: On or about 11/11/2009 9:57 PM, Hartmut Figge typed the following: BeeNeR: Neither yours or George Carden's solution works for me. The page I use multiple log-ins on ishttp://www.mail.com/ I have a couple of e-mail addresses that I use and I no longer get the drop down selection choice. Maybe a case of autocomplete=off? https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password Hartmut I don't think so since it does complete if I only enter the first letter. ie if I have two users starting with 'e' and I enter 'e' a drop down box appears with both users that start with 'e'. In 1.x versions I didn't have to enter anything. If I clicked on the user entry box I received a dropdown box with ALL users no matter what the spelling and I could click on the user I wanted. Try this work around on a Duplicate of the SM2 Application: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Change made (it's at line 814 in my copy). File saved. System rebooted. Started SM2.0. No change. Everthing on mail.com works as originally stated, not as SM1.x. Change back to true -- Ed Do not believe everything you hear or anything you say. On sites with multiple login you only have to double click in the field and the drop down with all data stored will be shown. Hardy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
MikeyG wrote: After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). It appeared, to me, that SeaMonkey-2 used very, similar code as Firefox, and being that the 'Form Manager' was now, similar to what I remember Firefox's form management being like, I decided to give Firefox / Thunderbird a try. (I figured eventually, SeaMonkey-2 would become the main-stay and SeaMonkey 1.*.* would be obsoleted out.) So, far I do not regret my decision. The only, thing I am unsure of my decision to switch is because there are ssooo, many, Add-Ons and Tweaks and customizations available for Firefox / Thunderbird that I am spending a lot of time playing with all of this; not a good thing for a 'can't leave it alone', 'tweak this, tweak that' sort of user; (I just, can't leave well enough alone ... but it is fun!) MikeyG You'll find most people here have done the opposite. I've been on FF since the time it was known as Phoenix, and TB a little less than that. I still miss Firefox, but I love the mail-browser integration of Seamonkey. And Seamonkey 2.0 uses the same codebase as Firefox and Thunderbird, which is why you're seeing similarities. And yes..extensions are what I miss the most. Many popular extensions are yet to be ported to Seamonkey..if at all. - If you evaluate C++, you still get C, but C gets bigger. -- Erik Naggum - ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple user/passwords
On or about 11/13/2009 1:46 PM, eintrag typed the following: On 12 Nov., 21:38, BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote: On or about 11/12/2009 10:39 AM, Phillip Jones typed the following: BeeNeR wrote: On or about 11/11/2009 9:57 PM, Hartmut Figge typed the following: BeeNeR: Neither yours or George Carden's solution works for me. The page I use multiple log-ins on ishttp://www.mail.com/ I have a couple of e-mail addresses that I use and I no longer get the drop down selection choice. Maybe a case of autocomplete=off? https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password Hartmut I don't think so since it does complete if I only enter the first letter. ie if I have two users starting with 'e' and I enter 'e' a drop down box appears with both users that start with 'e'. In 1.x versions I didn't have to enter anything. If I clicked on the user entry box I received a dropdown box with ALL users no matter what the spelling and I could click on the user I wanted. Try this work around on a Duplicate of the SM2 Application: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Change made (it's at line 814 in my copy). File saved. System rebooted. Started SM2.0. No change. Everthing on mail.com works as originally stated, not as SM1.x. Change back to true -- Ed Do not believe everything you hear or anything you say. On sites with multiple login you only have to double click in the field and the drop down with all data stored will be shown. Hardy As previously stated - that does not happen. Double clicking on the field does absolutly nothing. No drop down, no nothing. -- Ed Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. –Mark Twain (1835-1910) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Form Management
This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame is to slowly being reduced to were firefox and thunderbird combined, what's the point? Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these little unimportant parts. I hope someone can rectify this situation, but if not let me express my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I loved... I'm sure I will miss it. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:42:55 -0500, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: me2 wrote: BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted? The Firefox developers. To be fair, they made that decision for Firefox only. When SeaMonkey made the switch to the common back-end (Toolkit) this is what we got. The old form manager would have had to be reimplemented in the new environment but obviously that didn't happen. Even if someone stepped up to do the work now I don't know whether the old form manager behavior would be accepted for inclusion in newer SeaMonkey versions. Unless someone tries I guess it won't ever happen. But of course there's always the possibility that someone develops an extension that implements something similar. Greetings, Jens Odds are the developer in charge of it at FireFox said to him self , people don't use this anyway do we even need it. You could acquire the code for the Forms history extension and included it already built in as you do ChatZilla, JavaScript Debugger, and DOM inspector. If you don't want to be bothered with actually developing one. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [HOW-TO] Import Passwords from Firefox/Thunderbird to SM 2.0
Philip Chee escribió: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1588545 (...) Hi, Phil, thank you for this recipe. May I ask what license applies to your post?. The reason I ask this is because I'd like to put a localized version of you recipe in our Spanish community site (http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/) but we publish all content under a CC 3.0-by-sa license, so I could only do it if your post is under a compatible license. TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?
Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/: http://www.askmen.com/video/ Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will upgrade to v2 soon but not now)? Example: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ... Thank you in advance. :) Install Stylish: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108 Add the following user style rule for this site: #mediaBd { clear: both; } You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also. It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in all of these browsers. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happened to the form manager
another man's useless bloat. You need a Form Manager, and this extension gives you an excellent one wow! - I'm tempting to comment that something else is bloated here BUT in all fairness to L Jones, whatever the feature, if you don't/didn't use it your appreciation/value of it probably wasn't much. And no this new (its firefox's idea of a form manger) ISN'T an excellent one by comparison. Those who use parts that have been with all along foolishly expected the community to maintain them, not decide a function or whatever wasn't to continue. There parts of Netscape that I've never used, probably never will, but you'll find no complaint here over the last 12 years of bloat. Give us back forms manager - AND let the community have a say if someone decides to kick something else to the curb. On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: another man's useless bloat. You need a Form Manager, and this extension gives you an excellent one ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Form Management
me2 wrote: This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame is to slowly being reduced to were firefox and thunderbird combined, what's the point? Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these little unimportant parts. I hope someone can rectify this situation, but if not let me express my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I loved... I'm sure I will miss it. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:42:55 -0500, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: me2 wrote: BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted? The Firefox developers. To be fair, they made that decision for Firefox only. When SeaMonkey made the switch to the common back-end (Toolkit) this is what we got. The old form manager would have had to be reimplemented in the new environment but obviously that didn't happen. Even if someone stepped up to do the work now I don't know whether the old form manager behavior would be accepted for inclusion in newer SeaMonkey versions. Unless someone tries I guess it won't ever happen. But of course there's always the possibility that someone develops an extension that implements something similar. Greetings, Jens Odds are the developer in charge of it at FireFox said to him self , people don't use this anyway do we even need it. You could acquire the code for the Forms history extension and included it already built in as you do ChatZilla, JavaScript Debugger, and DOM inspector. If you don't want to be bothered with actually developing one. I'm with you; even though I have gone to use Firefox / Thunderbird, I'd like to see the Old Form Manager be available in Firefox. MikeyG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster
I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster
Nobody wrote: I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18. Also CCleaner does not list the cookies in SM2 as it did previous. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)--To all that responded.
Frog wrote: I will clearly state that I am not a computer whiz...thus, I have a number of concerns regarding SeaMonkey 2.0 installation on my system. I have been reading the many SeaMonkey 2.0 messages on this newsgroup with some concern about my ability to fix the problems that could occur with the installation of 2.0. It seems that the move from 1.1.18 to 2.0 is not happening without a number of glitches along the way. Thus, in light of what I have read, I am wondering if it would wise for me to wait for a future release of SeaMonkey before upgrading my system...I suppose I am hoping that some changes will be incorporated into a future upgrade, that would make the move go more smoothly. Any comments would be appreciated. Also, a list of actions to take, or not to take, during the installation of 2.0 would also be very helpful...just in case I get brave enough to proceed with the 2.0 installation. Note: Windows XP Pro SP3 I have always allowed previous SeaMonkey installations to be loaded using default locations. I suppose that I do have concerns about what happens to the plug I have downloaded. I only have one profile on my system. Frog Thanks for the comments and recommendations. I have been reading your replies, and those found here on this newsgroup, most of today. I now conclude that this is not the time for me to make a move to SM 2.0...as SM 1.1.18 is not giving me any problems, and a move to SM2 could lead to problems. I will continue to read the exchanges here on this newsgroup, and hope that my confidence will grow to the point where I believe I can make the move to SM2. I am sure that I will have more questions, as that move nears. Also, I hope that a future modification will make the move from SM1 to SM2 happen more smoothly...what are the chances? Again, thanks to all for responding to my call for help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [HOW-TO] Import Passwords from Firefox/Thunderbird to SM 2.0
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:03:41 +0100, Ricardo Palomares Martínez wrote: Philip Chee escribió: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1588545 (...) Hi, Phil, thank you for this recipe. May I ask what license applies to your post?. The reason I ask this is because I'd like to put a localized version of you recipe in our Spanish community site (http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/) but we publish all content under a CC 3.0-by-sa license, so I could only do it if your post is under a compatible license. CC 3.0-by-sa is fine with me. Also GFDL for those GNUists. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
On 11/12/2009 04:32 AM, MikeyG wrote: After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). So you've managed to find use the Form Manager that was present in Fx 2.0 in Fx 3.0? I suspect not as it's been missing in Fx since 2008. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster
Nobody wrote: I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18. I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no update but Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you encounter? Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?
On 11/13/2009 2:14 PM PT, Stanimir Stamenkov typed: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/: http://www.askmen.com/video/ Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will upgrade to v2 soon but not now)? Example: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ... Thank you in advance. :) Install Stylish: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108 Add the following user style rule for this site: #mediaBd { clear: both; } You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also. It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in all of these browsers. I did e-mail them and got this reply: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:09:16AM -0800, Martin Helie wrote: Just tried it and it looks fine; you might want to install v2 of seamonkey. Aso for minimal font size, I tried that but nothing fixed it. :( -- Ever watch ants just crawling around? They walk in that single straight line, a long, a long, long mile of ants. Sometimes they will walk over and pick up their dead friends and carry those around. I'm pretty sure it's because they can get in the carpool lane and pass up that line. --Ellen DeGeneres /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v1.1.18 problem with AskMen.com's videos?
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:17:17 -0800, /Ant/: On 11/13/2009 2:14 PM PT, Stanimir Stamenkov typed: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:05 -0800, /Ant/: http://www.askmen.com/video/ Is anyone else having missing Flash videos in v1.1.18 (will upgrade to v2 soon but not now)? Example: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/714/screenshotg.gif ... Install Stylish: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108 For SeaMonkey 1.* use this compatible version, instead: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#stylish Add the following user style rule for this site: #mediaBd { clear: both; } You may consider reporting the problem to the site owners as I'm experiencing the same with Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 and Safari 4, also. It appears related to the fact I have minimal font size set to 12px in all of these browsers. I did e-mail them and got this reply: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:09:16AM -0800, Martin Helie wrote: Just tried it and it looks fine; you might want to install v2 of seamonkey. I'm experiencing this using SeaMonkey 2.0, also. Aso for minimal font size, I tried that but nothing fixed it. :( Make sure you remove the minimal font size for all scripts (Western, Other Languages, etc.) and reload the page. Alternatively just try the user style I've given previously. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey