Re: SeaMonkey is already running, but is not responding....

2010-10-02 Thread Alice Wyman

Jama Bennett Reed wrote:

Ps:  this problem started after I defregged C  E (the drive the user
profiles are on)

jama

Jama Bennett Reed wrote:

I am getting this message with SM 2.08 SeaMonkey is already running,
but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the
existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system.

SM is not running on task manager/processes. I can run SM 1.1.17 fine.
I have reinstalled, rebooted x10 with no results.

Looked for parent.lock file - not there.

My user profiles are on another drive to save space on C and to
protect them in case of a crash but I have done this for 10 years with
every version of SM and Netscape.

Just joined here and searched archives for this problem with no results.

Help please!

Jama


Maybe something here will help:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
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Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread John
Whenever I try to send someone a .pdf file as an attachment, the coding 
for the attachment shows up as many lines of garbage in the body of the 
message. If I send a copy back to myself, the file is visible in the 
attachments box in the message window, (as well as the lines of code in 
the message body) but apparently people using other email clients are 
unable to find or view the file. All they see is the lines of code.


If I send a .jpg file as an attachment, it works fine and doesn't have 
this problem. I've looked for an incorrect configuration setting, but 
haven't been able to find it. BTW, this is SeaMonkey v1.1.19. I'm not 
quite ready to go to v2.


What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
John wrote:

 Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
 A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.

Just a point relating to your signature... the domain name nospam.org is
an active domain. By using it, you are offering it to the spambots, so
it is likely that they are sending spam to someone else's email. Never
use anything that can be a real domain, even if not registered.

I'd suggest you use:   no...@example.invalid
which will prevent such harvesting of real domains.

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/10 9:13 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 John wrote:
 
 Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
 A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.
 
 Just a point relating to your signature... the domain name nospam.org is
 an active domain. By using it, you are offering it to the spambots, so
 it is likely that they are sending spam to someone else's email. Never
 use anything that can be a real domain, even if not registered.
 
 I'd suggest you use:   no...@example.invalid
 which will prevent such harvesting of real domains.
 

Also, munging an E-mail address in a newsgroup message might be okay;
but don't do it in an E-mail message.  My ISP automatically checks all
E-mail coming into its mail server.  Any E-mail message from an
unregistered domain or an unassigned IP address is trashed without even
reaching the server's spam bucket.

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
David E. Ross wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 John wrote:
 Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
 A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.
 
 Just a point relating to your signature... the domain name nospam.org
 is an active domain. By using it, you are offering it to the
 spambots, so it is likely that they are sending spam to someone
 else's email. Never use anything that can be a real domain, even if
 not registered. 
 
 I'd suggest you use:   no...@example.invalid
 which will prevent such harvesting of real domains.
 
 Also, munging an E-mail address in a newsgroup message might be okay;

Yes. In this case, the mail server hosting nospam.org would not have to
deal with spam.

 but don't do it in an E-mail message.

Goes without saying. How would you get a reply?  ;-)

 My ISP automatically checks all E-mail coming into its mail server. 
 Any E-mail message from an unregistered domain or an unassigned IP
 address is trashed without even reaching the server's spam bucket.

..unless it is from no...@nospam.org ...

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

John wrote:


Whenever I try to send someone a .pdf file as an attachment, the coding
for the attachment shows up as many lines of garbage in the body of the
message. If I send a copy back to myself, the file is visible in the
attachments box in the message window, (as well as the lines of code in
the message body) but apparently people using other email clients are
unable to find or view the file. All they see is the lines of code.

If I send a .jpg file as an attachment, it works fine and doesn't have
this problem. I've looked for an incorrect configuration setting, but
haven't been able to find it. BTW, this is SeaMonkey v1.1.19. I'm not
quite ready to go to v2.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks!


From the sound of it, nothing. If your outgoing message is well-formed 
(as proven by the fact that you can view a copy), the configuration 
problem is at your recipient's end.


Test questions:

1) Does this happen with all senders, or just with you? (I'm guessing 
all who send PDFs)


2) Does this happen with all recipients, or just one or two? (I'm 
guessing one or two Outlook users)


If you confirm my hypothesis, it sounds like they've got their program 
set to view attachments in the body of the message even if it doesn't 
know how. For JPEGs, that would be fine because most email programs know 
how to display them.


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Re: Invisible mailbox

2010-10-02 Thread Rex

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rex wrote:


I thought I'll configure Hotmail via POP on Seamonkey, by copying over
the settings from Thunderbird after it autoconfigures the account.
I was able to create an account and connect and download mail (to local
folders), but there's nothing to be seen there. Yet I keep getting new
mail notifications for this account. What's happening?


In your server settings for this account, did you specify that SM should
actually /download/ the mail, or just check whether there is any?

I set it to 'fetch headers only'. Shouldn't that at least show me the 
headers?



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Re: Extension Update Available

2010-10-02 Thread Rex

David E. Ross wrote:

On launching SeaMonkey, I saw a popup informing me that an update to one
of my installed add-ons is now available.  The message did not say which
of 8 add-ons has the update.  I consider the failure to identify which
add-on has a new update to be a serious problem.

I went to the Web sites of all of them.  For 7 of them, I can tell there
is no new updates.

For the DOM Inspector, the Web page at
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/  does not display a version
number.  This add-on was installed with SeaMonkey itself.  I did not
request it; I don't know how to use it; and I'm not sure I want it.

Below is a list of my SeaMonkey add-ons with their version numbers.  Can
anyone tell me which one has a newer version?

Extensions (enabled: 8)
* Adblock Plus 1.2.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* Live HTTP headers 0.16
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Preserve Download Modification Timestamp 2010.09.12.18
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3
(https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/)
* ShowIP 0.8.19 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)



Doesn't the 'find updates' button in the addon manager work? It would 
check each extension for updates and notify you of the ones that do have 
updates available.



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Re: Invisible mailbox

2010-10-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rex wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rex wrote:


I thought I'll configure Hotmail via POP on Seamonkey, by copying over
the settings from Thunderbird after it autoconfigures the account.
I was able to create an account and connect and download mail (to local
folders), but there's nothing to be seen there. Yet I keep getting new
mail notifications for this account. What's happening?


In your server settings for this account, did you specify that SM should
actually /download/ the mail, or just check whether there is any?


I set it to 'fetch headers only'. Shouldn't that at least show me the
headers?


I would think so, but then I'm not a developer...

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Re: Extension Update Available

2010-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/10 11:51 AM, Rex wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On launching SeaMonkey, I saw a popup informing me that an update to one
 of my installed add-ons is now available.  The message did not say which
 of 8 add-ons has the update.  I consider the failure to identify which
 add-on has a new update to be a serious problem.

 I went to the Web sites of all of them.  For 7 of them, I can tell there
 is no new updates.

 For the DOM Inspector, the Web page at
 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/  does not display a version
 number.  This add-on was installed with SeaMonkey itself.  I did not
 request it; I don't know how to use it; and I'm not sure I want it.

 Below is a list of my SeaMonkey add-ons with their version numbers.  Can
 anyone tell me which one has a newer version?

 Extensions (enabled: 8)
 * Adblock Plus 1.2.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
 * DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
 * Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
 * Live HTTP headers 0.16
 * PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
 * Preserve Download Modification Timestamp 2010.09.12.18
 * Show Password On Input 0.1.3
 (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/)
 * ShowIP 0.8.19 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)

 
 Doesn't the 'find updates' button in the addon manager work? It would 
 check each extension for updates and notify you of the ones that do have 
 updates available.
 

Yes, I finally saw that button and used it.

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread John

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

John wrote:


Whenever I try to send someone a .pdf file as an attachment, the coding
for the attachment shows up as many lines of garbage in the body of the
message. If I send a copy back to myself, the file is visible in the
attachments box in the message window, (as well as the lines of code in
the message body) but apparently people using other email clients are
unable to find or view the file. All they see is the lines of code.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks!


 From the sound of it, nothing. If your outgoing message is well-formed 
(as proven by the fact that you can view a copy), the configuration 
problem is at your recipient's end.


Test questions:

1) Does this happen with all senders, or just with you? (I'm guessing 
all who send PDFs)


I think you misunderstood what I said. If I send a .pdf file in a test 
message to myself using the SeaMonkey email client, and then read that 
message using the SeaMonkey email client, I see the lines of code inline 
in the body of the message. But I also see the attachment as a file in 
the attachments box, so the attachment comes through but with all the 
extraneous lines in the message body.


On the other hand, if I use the web-based email client of my Yahoo 
account and send a message with an attached .pdf file to myself, and 
then read that message using the SeaMonkey email client, I get the 
attachment *only* in the attachments box, and nothing in the body of the 
message other than what should normally be in the message body.


And while this problem occurs with .pdf attachments, it does not occur 
with .jpg attachments.


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Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data

2010-10-02 Thread Ray_Net

S. Beaulieu wrote:

HenriK a écrit :

As noted in my original post, this is NOT a passwords issue. What I am
referring to is other data where one simply fills in boxes on a website.


It might not be a password issue per se, but I believe it's the same
engine that remembers all this info, thus the password setting is the
one that activates or disactivate this behaviour.

Make sure that box is unchecked, as well as, under Confidentiality and
security, the one for Search and form data.


Yes, but it would be better to see:
Remember logins box
instead of:
Remember passwords box
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Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data

2010-10-02 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 29 septembre 2010, HenriK a écrit :

With SeaMonkey 2.06 running under XP-Pro SP3 + all subsequent XP upgrades, I 
find that with certain websites where I fill in data to use the site I am 
visiting, SeaMonkey has 'remembered' what I entered the last time I was using 
that particular website and this previously entered data automatically pops 
up as I start to fill in the box where the information previously entered. 
SeaMonkey is not 'remembering' passwords that I enter, however.


I am uncomfortable, for security reasons, with SeaMonkey keeping previously 
entered data somewhere.  What part of the program is responsible for this and 
how do I get the 'remembering' to stop?


Prefs : Browser  History, uncheck last checkbox.


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Left clicking always brings up menu in SM2 on OSX?

2010-10-02 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Ever hear of these symptoms?  Know of any cures?

SM2 (latest version as of about 2 months ago) on an Intel Mac Mini running
Leopard is behaving VERY STRANGELY.  Left clicks on buttons, menu items,
and certain other UI features that ought to cause actions, often cause a
pop-up menu to be displayed, in addition to whatever action they're
supposed to take.  If one is not careful to move the mouse out of the menu
before releasing it, one ends up performing unintended actions,
which may have very undesirable consequences.

Example: in SM's mail window, EVERY time the Get Msgs Icon is clicked,
a menu appears offering some choices, the first of which is to customize
a toolbar.  File - Get New Messages gets new messages and brings up some
other menu which must be carefully dismissed.

This has made SM2 unusable for my elderly relative.  After struggling with
that unwanted menus for some time, the entire bar of icons including Get
Msgs icon disappeared, and I have no idea how she can get it back.
Now her SM2 is effectively non-functional for email.

This is a brand new OS/X install on a clean disk with SM2 and almost no
extensions or plugins (quicktime, Adobe PDF reader).  It has an Apple
two-button mighty mouse, and the buttons were configured properly (right
mouse separate from left mouse, buttons not reversed) recently.
She's being careful to left-click.

Any ideas gratefully received.

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2010-10-02 Thread antonio cano mu�oz


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2010-10-02 Thread antonio cano muñoz

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Re: Problem emailing a .pdf attachment

2010-10-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

John wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

John wrote:


Whenever I try to send someone a .pdf file as an attachment, the coding
for the attachment shows up as many lines of garbage in the body of the
message. If I send a copy back to myself, the file is visible in the
attachments box in the message window, (as well as the lines of code in
the message body) but apparently people using other email clients are
unable to find or view the file. All they see is the lines of code.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks!


From the sound of it, nothing. If your outgoing message is well-formed
(as proven by the fact that you can view a copy), the configuration
problem is at your recipient's end.

Test questions:

1) Does this happen with all senders, or just with you? (I'm guessing
all who send PDFs)


I think you misunderstood what I said. If I send a .pdf file in a test
message to myself using the SeaMonkey email client, and then read that
message using the SeaMonkey email client, I see the lines of code inline
in the body of the message. But I also see the attachment as a file in
the attachments box, so the attachment comes through but with all the
extraneous lines in the message body.


Yes, this is clearer. I didn't notice the parenthetical in which you 
stated that you could reproduce the error by viewing the message 
yourself in SeaMonkey. As I read your original description, only other 
recipients experienced the problem.


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Re: Can't Get Hotmail

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Pamin

JeffM wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Who is paying you to stress people using linux ?


It's called sharing.
As the user of a Free Software online suite,
you should be familiar with the concept.

People who mention a 12-year-old M$ OS
(which is always running as root)
often have experienced being pwned by a drive-by infection
or borking their OS by deleting system files.

There are numerous Free Software distros
which will work on gear of that vintage
and which don't have those problems.

People who run those very old M$ OSes on very old boxes
are also finding that the brand new peripherals they can buy
don't have Win98 device drivers.
Linux, OTOH, has the best hardware support of *ANY* OS.

Windoze also continues to use
the fragile, cumbersome Windoze Registry.
Linux doesn't have that either.

Windoze has always had Windoze Product Keys;
the latest M$ OSes now have Windoze Product Activation
and Windoze Genuine DISadvantage
(aka remote kill switches controlled by M$).
Linux doesn't have ANY of that nonsense.

Many people think their ONLY choice
is to buy new gear and get a new M$ OS.
Largely because of M$'s illegal anti-competitive activities,
may folks are not even *aware* that they have OTHER options.

Linux is a solution that is available at zero cost
--without the M$ gotchas.
It works on old gear and you *don't* have to install it to try it.
(Linux will **run** from the plastic disk.)

Many have found Linux to be a way to give new life to old gear.
Others cast off their old boxes
(which are then picked up for a song--or even for free--
by Linux guys who restore their usefulness for $0).
http://google.com/search?q=Helios-Project+Ken-Starks

The point is that folks have choices.
The fact that there are zero-cost solutions to problems
is also appealing to some.

...and, again, the openness of Free Software
is another factor that may be appealing.


I had the same problem with Hotmail and 1.1.19. Here's what someone 
posted that worked for me:
Go to about:config. Search for useragent and find 
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey. Right-click on it, choose Modify, and 
add the text NOT Firefox/3.6.8


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Testing SeaMonkey 2.0.9 candidates - help wanted!

2010-10-02 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Hi everyone,

All the builds for SeaMonkey 2.0.9 have been created (updates are
available on the betatest channel soon, going to beta as soon as I have
a few reports of the builds not being busted), so it's time for starting
tests on them to ensure we get an update out there that is worth
shipping to all our 2.0.x users.

Please help us testing the Windows installers, Mac disk images and Linux
packages, all available in 24 languages including US English.
The packages are available in the linux-i686, mac, and win32
subdirectories of
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0.9-candidates/build1/

Once again, the linux-x86_64 build is NOT OFFICIAL and NOT ENDORSED. It
will be listed as contributed build even if it was technically created
by our build system, and it will be treated in no other way than usual
contributed builds. In other words, it's just an experiment.

Please use the builds for any usage patterns you can think of, possibly
also doing a https://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=7
smoketest run on them. I know that Litmus run isn't perfect, but it's
the best we have right now.

Localizers, please test the builds in your locale, any updates can be
taken with further sign-offs (in the new tool) for 2.0.10 and future 
updates.


If no problems come up in testing those builds, they will probably go
live as the official 2.0.9 on September 7, in sync with Firefox and
Thunderbird updates that will fix the same set of security issues.

The list of bugs fixed in this update contains 16 public reports thus
far, 22 security issues are currently hidden and only to be disclosed
upon release of our updates. The bug query to find the issues is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=Coreproduct=Toolkitproduct=MailNews+Coreproduct=SeaMonkeyproduct=Other+Applicationsfield0-0-0=keywordstype0-0-0=anywordsvalue0-0-0=fixed-seamonkey2.0.9field0-0-1=cf_status_191type0-0-1=anywordsvalue0-0-1=.13-fixedfield0-0-2=cf_status_thunderbird30type0-0-2=anywordsvalue0-0-2=.9-fixed 
[I think]


p.s. I mostly copied from KaiRo's previous help-wanted message.

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Re: Save Password?...

2010-10-02 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Ok...I made a new account and was asked if I wanted to save the login
 in Password manager as I was entering the information - I hit the Not
 Now button, expecting that when I went back and logged in again I
 would be prompted once more...
 
 ...NOT.  The site is not listed in Passwords Never Stored...so why
 no prompt, and how do I get SM to let me save the info for this login
 in Password Manager now?
 
 Using SM 2.0.8 Mac...


Well, the next time you try to access the account, it should ask to
remember the password.

Is this an imap account or pop?

Have you closed SM and reopening, to close the connection and reopening
it?

Lee
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Re: Left clicking always brings up menu in SM2 on OSX?

2010-10-02 Thread Leonidas Jones
Nelson Bolyard nonelsons...@nobolyardspam.me wrote:
 Ever hear of these symptoms?  Know of any cures?
 
 SM2 (latest version as of about 2 months ago) on an Intel Mac Mini
 running
 Leopard is behaving VERY STRANGELY.  Left clicks on buttons, menu
 items,
 and certain other UI features that ought to cause actions, often cause
 a
 pop-up menu to be displayed, in addition to whatever action they're
 supposed to take.  If one is not careful to move the mouse out of the
 menu
 before releasing it, one ends up performing unintended actions,
 which may have very undesirable consequences.
 
 Example: in SM's mail window, EVERY time the Get Msgs Icon is
 clicked,
 a menu appears offering some choices, the first of which is to
 customize
 a toolbar.  File - Get New Messages gets new messages and brings up
 some
 other menu which must be carefully dismissed.
 
 This has made SM2 unusable for my elderly relative.  After struggling
 with
 that unwanted menus for some time, the entire bar of icons including
 Get
 Msgs icon disappeared, and I have no idea how she can get it back.
 Now her SM2 is effectively non-functional for email.
 
 This is a brand new OS/X install on a clean disk with SM2 and almost
 no
 extensions or plugins (quicktime, Adobe PDF reader).  It has an Apple
 two-button mighty mouse, and the buttons were configured properly
 (right
 mouse separate from left mouse, buttons not reversed) recently.
 She's being careful to left-click.
 
 Any ideas gratefully received.

Do you have direct access to the machine? If so, have you checked System
Preferences to be sure that the mouse preferences have not become
garbled?

Is this only happening in SeaMonkey?

You might try having her reboot the machine, which might clear
something. It doesn't sound like a SeaMonkey issue, rather something. In
the OS.

Lee
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Re: TB vs SM for a non technical user

2010-10-02 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rex rexduderemoveandreversedom...@liam.ur wrote:

 Currently he's on the latest version of Firefox. I figured that having
 one combined client would work nice - especially when he clicks a link
 in an email and it opens in the browser, or clicks a mailto link in
 the browser and it opens an email compose window instantly. Whereas
 with 2 separate clients it would take time to load.
 Also for other reasons, I've let IE7 be the default browser on the
 system so if he clicks a link it might end up launching IE and further
 confusing him.
 
 

With that information, SeaMonkey makes the most sense.  Links in TB
would indeed open the default browser. Links in the SM mail client would
open the browser component of SM, as you desire, and mailto's as well. 
There is no way to get FF and TB to do that without setting both as the
system default.

Then again, is there a compelling reason not to set them as the default
apps?

I love SeaMonkey, and recommend it.  The only downside I see is that
they are tied together.  If something occurs that freezes one component,
the whole application freezes. Still, SM would seem to make sense in
this case.

Lee
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