Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

William Greenwood wrote:


Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,


I'm running Windows 7 Pro SP1 and SM 2.13.1.


The following Costco site will not load images:



I see lots of images, though a few here and there are "404 not found." 
Not your browser's fault.



Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:



Page loaded, but graph pane was blank until I disabled AdBlock Plus and 
reloaded.


Strangely enough, after I closed the browser window, cleared my cache, 
and cleared all stockcharts.com cookies, the page loaded normally.






Page loaded normally, including graph, even though I had enabled AdBlock 
Plus before attempting it.



Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried
reverting to SM 2.12, but did not help.


Do you use an ad blocker?

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 9:49 AM PT, Dave Royal typed:

> One of the reasons I gave up SM for Fx a few years back.

Yeah, it's frustrating. What do you use for e-mail, newsgroups, etc. 
since Firefox is only a web browser?




Have you tried editing the addon to see if it works in SM anyway? Like
it's described here but you have to add the SM UID (the long number) and
version numbers for SM. Copy them from an xpi that works in SM.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility

Apologies if this is too technical for you. I've no idea if it will work.
Anybody know? I used to do it a lot with version numbers.
Dave


Too complex. I will wait. ;)
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 8:50 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


 > Have you ever used the "Adblock Plus" together with the "Flashblock"

add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?


Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P


Err, why?


Because I don't want to play right away. Sometimes I open more than one 
tabs to watch later.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM PT, NoOp typed:


Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P


If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you
commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012
In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as
the Flash on/off button.

For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar &
enter: Turn Off HTML5
That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first
to comment on that thread...
Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5?
and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add
a WebM on/off button for Prefbar.




If turning off HTML5, wouldn't that be for ALL? I just want videos only.
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Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-16 Thread cmcadams

William Greenwood wrote:

Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,

The following Costco site will not load images:
http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632

Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0

Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried 
reverting to
SM 2.12, but did not help.



All 3 load for me in SM 12.13.1. XP/SP3. Only add-on present is Adblock Plus. Java 
1.7.0_07 for the latter two.

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Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

2012-10-16 Thread Craig
So I see the information on SM 2.13.1 being released, go to 
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ and download it, checked 
the SHA1SUM, and installed it.


Now, every time I run SM I am logged out of my CentOS 5.8 system.

What's up with that? I had to downgrade back to 2.12.1 to be able to 
post this message.



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Still not informed of updates

2012-10-16 Thread Craig
Seeing the postings about SM 2.13.1, I did an update check with my 
running 2.12.1 and got a window that said there were no updates.


Why is that? Why am I not informed of updates when they come out?

Thanks,


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Re: Mail/News Hangs

2012-10-16 Thread Zeb Carter

Ed Mullen wrote:

Windows 7 Pro 32 bit

For about 18 months, whenever Mail is running SM starts using huge
amounts of CPU resources and the program freezes.  If Mail is not
running?  No issues with the browser.

I tried Firefox and TBird without SM running.  Same issue.

Yes, tried them all in Safe Mode.

Tried them all with all extensions and add ons disabled.

Sorry, no glee.

When the mailnews program in SM is running?  Mem usage skyrockets, the
whole program hangs for 5, 10, 20 seconds.  I watch Task Manager and,
yeah, SM sktyockets in CPU usage.

Yep, just now, was typing and SM hung.  It buffered my keystrokes and
suddenly exposed them.  Still, unacceptable.

This has been going on for about a year or so.


Ed, I have a similar problem. On certain binary newsgroups, where there 
is a large number of new messages, SM hangs on getting them. finally, I 
get a message on how many headers I want to download. While the system 
is working to get to that point, I may see "program not responding" and 
one or both windows (browser & mail/news) may disappear from the task 
bar. When the system recovers, the windows may still be gone or just the 
mail/news window will show on the task bar. I can still go up to the 
tool bar and under Window click to get back to the missing window which 
usually reappears on the task bar.


I am running Win XP Media Center with SP3, 2Gb Ram with plenty of HD 
space. CPU is an Athlon 64 X2 4600+.


This has been a problem for me going back to 1.x.
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Mail/News Hangs

2012-10-16 Thread Ed Mullen

Windows 7 Pro 32 bit

For about 18 months, whenever Mail is running SM starts using huge 
amounts of CPU resources and the program freezes.  If Mail is not 
running?  No issues with the browser.


I tried Firefox and TBird without SM running.  Same issue.

Yes, tried them all in Safe Mode.

Tried them all with all extensions and add ons disabled.

Sorry, no glee.

When the mailnews program in SM is running?  Mem usage skyrockets, the 
whole program hangs for 5, 10, 20 seconds.  I watch Task Manager and, 
yeah, SM sktyockets in CPU usage.


Yep, just now, was typing and SM hung.  It buffered my keystrokes and 
suddenly exposed them.  Still, unacceptable.


This has been going on for about a year or so.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/16/12 9:05 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Peter Taylor wrote:
>> On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
>>> Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
>>> latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
>>> FlashBlock. Ugh! :(
>>>
>>> I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?
>>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A
> 
> Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox.  In SM I DO have 
> audio on Flash videos.  Hmm.
> 

I get the video as Flash.  The media.autoplay.enabled preference
variable has no effect.

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Re: Mail Display Page Headings

2012-10-16 Thread jimr929
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:43:56 AM UTC-5, JAS wrote:
> James Robinson wrote:
> 
> > I recently received and updated my SeaMonkey program to ver. 2.13.1,
> 
> > thru the automatic update notice service, on my Gateway Laptop using
> 
> > Windows7.
> 
> >
> 
> > My problem is that the headings (Subject, From, Date & To), that were
> 
> > always immediately above the individual email message bodies, are no
> 
> > longer there.  Does anyone know how or where to correct this?  I
> 
> > cannot find anything in the "Preferences", Mail Account Settings",
> 
> > etc.  pages that address this.
> 
> Click the little arrow on the header display on the right.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you 
> don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you 
> get at the hands of someone else.

JAS
Thank you for the reply but I do not have the Header display anymore or the 
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Re: Text Message From SM E-Mail..

2012-10-16 Thread JD

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:33:52 -0500, JD wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/10/2012 13:18, JD told the world:

I have a person who prefers to be contacted by text messages.

I have learned how to send a text message from the SM e-mail program.

The problem is, the phone number reported to the person receiving the
text message is 10 digits that are not my phone. I understand that
my SM
e-mail has no way t know my phone number.

The text message is coming from area code 141 which appears to be the
international area code for a phone in North America.

My question is, can I change that number or is her cell phone provider
generating the number?


Not my area of expertise, I probably got the details wrong, but...

You are probably using a gateway service -- some server that receives an
e-mail, converts it into a text message and resends it through the SMS
network.

AFAIK, the sender of an SMS message is identified by essentially the
same mechanism that CallerID uses -- that is, the sender's phone number
is supplied by the *network*, not by the sender. I don't think the
sender is allowed to supply any sender phone number it wishes. That is,
I think sender phone numbers are not spoofable by anyone but a telephone
company.

The phone number the receiver is seeing is the number of the phone line
the SMS forwarding service uses to connect to the phone service.

So... there's nothing you can do about it on your side. This ability
would have to be supplied by the gateway service, and they would need
the collaboration of the phone company. Perhaps you can find a different
gateway service that allow you to customize the sender's phone number.
But I sorta doubt it.



Thanks MCBastos.

I use my ISP's e-mail server to send an e-mail to the phone number with
area code of the person so it looks like xxx...@text.xxx.net.
Somewhere in the process, it's gets the strange phone number.



The '@text.xxx.net' is a service which converts emails into text
messages.  That service is the one which is generating the number.

I have used a similar service in the past.  If the recipient replied by
text message to the generated number, then the service would convert the
reply text message into an email to me.

If you want to change the generated number, you will have to do a deal
with the people who run the '@text.xxx.net' service.



Thanks Ralph.

I can live with the generated number.

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Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-16 Thread WaltS

On 10/16/2012 01:04 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/16/2012 08:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,

The following Costco site will not load images:
http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632



It's an issue with your addons or extensions. I have the same issue with
those turned on. When I restart in safe mode, or use a new, clean test
profile the page loads fine. I also was able to open in Opera & Firefix
16.01 as they do not have the same addons etc., that I have in SeaMonkey.

Click Help|Restart with Add-ons Disabled & then try.

In order to troubleshoot I'll have to turn all addons & extensions off &
then turn back on one-by-one to figure out the one that is causing the
issue. Takes a long time... so I'll let you do that instead :-)


Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0


The issue is that those charts are Java based. If I turn on Jave in
Firefox or Opera they work fine. If I turn Java off in Firefox or Opera
they disappear.

Note: I would have tried the same in SeaMonkey were it not for:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not work
in SeaMonkey



Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried
reverting to SM 2.12, but did not help.





I was not aware of this bug, and spent a bit of time, creating, 
deleting, and recreating my symbolic link to 
/usr/java/jre1.7.0_07/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so, so I could troubleshoot 
this problem. Now I know why it didn't show up in my plugins. :)


The user definitely needs Java for that second link. The others worked 
for me.


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Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-16 Thread NoOp
On 10/16/2012 08:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
> Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,
> 
> The following Costco site will not load images:
> http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632
> 

It's an issue with your addons or extensions. I have the same issue with
those turned on. When I restart in safe mode, or use a new, clean test
profile the page loads fine. I also was able to open in Opera & Firefix
16.01 as they do not have the same addons etc., that I have in SeaMonkey.

Click Help|Restart with Add-ons Disabled & then try.

In order to troubleshoot I'll have to turn all addons & extensions off &
then turn back on one-by-one to figure out the one that is causing the
issue. Takes a long time... so I'll let you do that instead :-)

> Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
> http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
> http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0

The issue is that those charts are Java based. If I turn on Jave in
Firefox or Opera they work fine. If I turn Java off in Firefox or Opera
they disappear.

Note: I would have tried the same in SeaMonkey were it not for:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not work
in SeaMonkey

> 
> Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried 
> reverting to SM 2.12, but did not help.
> 

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Dave Royal
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:55:16 -0700, Ant wrote:

> On 10/16/2012 4:18 AM PT, Dave Royal typed:
> 
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/
> 
> Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :(

One of the reasons I gave up SM for Fx a few years back.

Have you tried editing the addon to see if it works in SM anyway? Like 
it's described here but you have to add the SM UID (the long number) and 
version numbers for SM. Copy them from an xpi that works in SM.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility

Apologies if this is too technical for you. I've no idea if it will work. 
Anybody know? I used to do it a lot with version numbers.
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Dave Royal
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:02:31 -0400, Rav wrote:

> ...Why would I NOT want to
> see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com?  Why else would one
> GO to youtube.com? ...

Because people post links to youtube without saying what they are. When 
I've seen the youtube page I choose whether to play it. Usually not.
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Taylor

On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

Thank you in advance. :)


Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A

Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox.  In SM I DO have
audio on Flash videos.  Hmm.



I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread NoOp
On 10/16/2012 07:53 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed:
> 
>  > Have you ever used the "Adblock Plus" together with the "Flashblock"
>> add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?
> 
> Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P
> 

If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you
commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012
In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as
the Flash on/off button.

For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar &
enter: Turn Off HTML5
That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first
to comment on that thread...
Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5?
and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add
a WebM on/off button for Prefbar.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ed Mullen

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

Thank you in advance. :)


Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A

Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox.  In SM I DO have 
audio on Flash videos.  Hmm.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ed Mullen

Ant wrote:

On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed:

 > Have you ever used the "Adblock Plus" together with the "Flashblock"

add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?


Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P


Err, why?

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Rick Merrill

Rav wrote:

On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote:



I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?



Of course. Did you look for one?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/



Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says "Stops 
autoplay
of YouTube HTML5 videos" and "Please note that for now this extension works 
only on
www.youtube.com."  Why would I NOT want to see videos if I've explicitly gone to
youtube.com?  Why else would one GO to youtube.com?  I use Flashblock to block 
videos
on other sites where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want 
that on
youtube.com itself?  Thanks.



Occasionally I'll follow a link to Youtube then decide to watch one of
the other shows.


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Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-16 Thread William Greenwood

Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,

The following Costco site will not load images:
http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632

Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0

Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried 
reverting to SM 2.12, but did not help.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ron Hunter

On 10/16/2012 5:50 AM, Desiree wrote:

"Ant"  wrote in message
news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org...

On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed:


Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?


They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are
HTML5 and some are still Flash.  But they're phasing in
HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other
mobiles.


Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube
added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and
all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5
compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues
like I mentioned. :(
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.


I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It
works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver.
I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin
container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even
though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out
of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash
content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability
on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot
have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight
each other at youtube.

Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through
the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so
need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to
view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to
see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start.

I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to
uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera.
However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is
UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very
happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead.


The purpose of the plugin container is to prevent Firefox from crashing 
when plugins that are compatible with it (plugin container) crash.  How 
can this be a problem for you?  DO you LIKE crashes?  I never notice 
that it is running because I don't continuously monitor my processes. 
If you just let it do its job, there would be less trouble.  Ads are NOT 
the only things that use Flash.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-10-16 11:02 AM, Rav wrote:

On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote:


I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?


Of course. Did you look for one?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/


Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says
"Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos" and "Please note that for now
this extension works only on www.youtube.com."  Why would I NOT want to
see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com?  Why else would one
GO to youtube.com?  I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites
where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on
youtube.com itself?  Thanks.


It's not a matter of blocking videos, but stopping them from 
automatically playing when you load the webpage, so you can choose when 
to start playing the video.


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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 7:55 AM PT, Ant typed:


I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/


Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :(


FYI from the developer:

"Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:01:26 +0500
From: Kashif Iqbal Khan 
To: Ant
Subject: Re: Stop Tube HTML5 for Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1?

   Hello!

   At the moment, StopTube is not available for SeaMonkey.

   This extension works only on html5 videos hosted on [1]youtube.com.

   Regards,
   Kashif Iqbal Khan..."
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 8:02 AM PT, Rav typed:


Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says
"Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos" and "Please note that for now
this extension works only on www.youtube.com."  Why would I NOT want to
see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com?  Why else would one
GO to youtube.com?  I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites
where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on
youtube.com itself?  Thanks.


It can still be useful for those embedded YouTube videos on other 
non-YouTube.com web sites.

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Re: Mail Display Page Headings

2012-10-16 Thread Richard
I experience the same problem but I can see no little arrow.

Le dimanche 14 octobre 2012 18:43:56 UTC+2, JAS a écrit :
> James Robinson wrote:
> 
> > I recently received and updated my SeaMonkey program to ver. 2.13.1,
> 
> > thru the automatic update notice service, on my Gateway Laptop using
> 
> > Windows7.
> 
> >
> 
> > My problem is that the headings (Subject, From, Date & To), that were
> 
> > always immediately above the individual email message bodies, are no
> 
> > longer there.  Does anyone know how or where to correct this?  I
> 
> > cannot find anything in the "Preferences", Mail Account Settings",
> 
> > etc.  pages that address this.
> 
> Click the little arrow on the header display on the right.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you 
> don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you 
> get at the hands of someone else.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Rav

On 10/16/2012 7:18 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote:



I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?



Of course. Did you look for one?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/



Pardon me for being dense, but the description for that add-on says 
"Stops autoplay of YouTube HTML5 videos" and "Please note that for now 
this extension works only on www.youtube.com."  Why would I NOT want to 
see videos if I've explicitly gone to youtube.com?  Why else would one 
GO to youtube.com?  I use Flashblock to block videos on other sites 
where I haven't gone to look at videos, but why would I want that on 
youtube.com itself?  Thanks.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 4:18 AM PT, Dave Royal typed:


I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/


Ooh, but no SeaMonkey v2.1x support yet. :(
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed:

> Have you ever used the "Adblock Plus" together with the "Flashblock"

add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?


Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P
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Re: Browser Location Bar: Select on Click

2012-10-16 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 13 octobre 2012, Redhat71 a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 12 octobre 2012, Redhat71 a écrit :


Cecil Bankston wrote:

The about:config shows that item and browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects
were already set as True.  It still requires 3 clicks to select the URL.

Redhat71 wrote:

browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll





browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll
not
browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects


Cecil said "*that item* *and* browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects".

I checked that these settings indeed have no effect (SM 12.1 on Linux
here). Worth a bug report I think. Cecil?



browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll;true wfm, sm 2.13 on linux


You're right, I stand corrected. I must have missed a restart!

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Ann Watson

On 16/10/2012 6:50 AM, Desiree wrote:

"Ant"  wrote in message
news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org...

On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed:


Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?


They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are
HTML5 and some are still Flash.  But they're phasing in
HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other
mobiles.


Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube
added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and
all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5
compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues
like I mentioned. :(
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.


I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It
works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver.
I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin
container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even
though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out
of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash
content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability
on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot
have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight
each other at youtube.

Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through
the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so
need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to
view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to
see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start.

I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to
uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera.
However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is
UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very
happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead.


Have you ever used the "Adblock Plus" together with the 
"Flashblock" add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?


AW
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Dave Royal
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:15 -0700, Ant wrote:

> 
> I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?
> 

Of course. Did you look for one?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-tube/
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Re: Mozilla SeaMonkey Composer Web Editor

2012-10-16 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:13:22 +0530, Kompelli, Vishal wrote:
> Hi Team,
> 
> I am from Citi - Application Management Team. We are currently in
> the process of migrating all our desktops from Vista to Win7. In
> order to migrate these users to Windows 7 the applications mentioned
> below may need remediation. In that regards I have one query as
> mentioned below.
> 
> Name of the Applications: APPLICATION NAME
> 
> VERSION
> 
> Mozilla SeaMonkey Composer Web Editor v1.1.9
> 
> v1.1.9
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Could you please let me know whether above applications is 
>> certified for Windows 7(64-bit compatible) and Citrix(64-bits 
>> compatible)?
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Vishal kompelli Architecture & Technology Engineering Client 
> Computing Direct Phone #: +91 22 40395156 Email ID: 
> vishal.kompe...@citi.com Team DL: 
> *CATE Global CDO Application Readiness Team
> 
> For Feedback and Managerial Escalation: Robert Sterlacci/Ken Salch | 
> Team Contact: *CATE Global CDO Application Readiness Team

The SeaMonkey website editor is not a separate application but is part
of the SeaMonkey Internet Suite.

Also SeaMonkey v1.1.9 is obsolete, EOL, and totally unsupported. It has
multiple security vulnerabilities that are only fixed in newer versions
of SeaMonkey.

>> Could you please let me know whether above applications is 
>> certified for Windows 7(64-bit compatible) and Citrix(64-bits
>> compatible)?

SeaMonkey v1.1.9 is currently not certified for anything at all.

Phil

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

2012-10-16 Thread Desiree

"Ant"  wrote in message 
news:-ekdnxsweeqevobnnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org...
> On 10/14/2012 1:24 PM PT, Rufus typed:
>
>>> Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
>>> Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
>>> latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
>>> FlashBlock. Ugh! :(
>>>
>>> I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?
>>
>> They started this some time ago, but it's a bit sporadic - some vids are
>> HTML5 and some are still Flash.  But they're phasing in
>> HTML5...presumably because of Flash-free devices like the iPad and other
>> mobiles.
>
> Yeah, I just discovered a way get out of it. It looked Google/YouTube 
> added me into a trial: http://www.youtube.com/html5 ... I opted out and 
> all good for now. I am sure they will force this on all of us with HTML5 
> compatible web browsers soon. HTML5 videos don't seem ready and has issues 
> like I mentioned. :(
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> \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
>  ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
> Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.

I am very glad that youtube is showing more and more videos in HTML5. It 
works great on Sea Monkey and on Fx 10 ESR. In fact, HTML 5 is a life saver. 
I had to completely remove Flash from plugin browsers. That horrible plugin 
container on both Fx 10 and Sea Monkey was constantly wanting to start even 
though the web page had NO flash on it! That plugin container is a bat out 
of hell. I hate it and won't allow it to start unless I wish to play Flash 
content, there is Flash content on the page, and there is no HTML5 ability 
on the page. If a video can be played both in HTML5 and Flash, you cannot 
have both Flash and HTML5 if you are using Fx or SM as Flash and HTML5 fight 
each other at youtube.

Plus, the plugin container is a HORROR because I filter everything through 
the Proxomitron (Sidki's latest filters from Dec 2011). This means NO ADS so 
need for Plugin container to want to start for Flash ads. Plus, if I wish to 
view Flash video on a page, Proxo gives me a toggle switch. If I toggle to 
see the Flash movie, then and ONLY then should Plugin container start.

I block Plugin container and that created so many problems that I had to 
uninstall Flash for plugin browsers but would like to use it on Opera. 
However, Fx and SM will install it without my permission! That is 
UNACCEPTABLE and means that I can't have Flash for Opera. So, I am very 
happy to not need Flash at many sites now where HTML5 is used instead. 


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

2012-10-16 Thread humptydumpty

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Jim wrote:

I just installed this release.  During the install, I received a Norton
Antivirus alert that Suspicious.Cloud.7.F was detected and it "fixed it"
  (like fixing a cat maybe :) ).

Anyway, according to MozillaZine, it says this is a false positive,
associated with Foxfire and Sea Monkey.  So what did Norton "screw up"
by dealing with this "problem"?


Ugh sounds like either they mistook the whitelist here, or your
auto-update by them didn't go fast enough.

[We manually give our files to Norton shortly after they are available
to try and prevent this issue]

I'll reach out to my contact on monday to try and determine what happened.



FWIW, I reached them, apparently the way this person did the change
didn't go live to users until today. I also got an automated message
that it did go live, and mistook an earlier message of "successful
submission" as "successful whitelist".

I could have had it live on friday if I submitted it a few hours
earlier. -- I will endeavor to do so in the future.



Thanks greatly. Much appreciated.
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Re: Text Message From SM E-Mail..

2012-10-16 Thread Ralph Fox

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:33:52 -0500, JD wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/10/2012 13:18, JD told the world:

I have a person who prefers to be contacted by text messages.

I have learned how to send a text message from the SM e-mail program.

The problem is, the phone number reported to the person receiving the
text message is 10 digits that are not my phone. I understand that my SM
e-mail has no way t know my phone number.

The text message is coming from area code 141 which appears to be the
international area code for a phone in North America.

My question is, can I change that number or is her cell phone provider
generating the number?


Not my area of expertise, I probably got the details wrong, but...

You are probably using a gateway service -- some server that receives an
e-mail, converts it into a text message and resends it through the SMS
network.

AFAIK, the sender of an SMS message is identified by essentially the
same mechanism that CallerID uses -- that is, the sender's phone number
is supplied by the *network*, not by the sender. I don't think the
sender is allowed to supply any sender phone number it wishes. That is,
I think sender phone numbers are not spoofable by anyone but a telephone
company.

The phone number the receiver is seeing is the number of the phone line
the SMS forwarding service uses to connect to the phone service.

So... there's nothing you can do about it on your side. This ability
would have to be supplied by the gateway service, and they would need
the collaboration of the phone company. Perhaps you can find a different
gateway service that allow you to customize the sender's phone number.
But I sorta doubt it.



Thanks MCBastos.

I use my ISP's e-mail server to send an e-mail to the phone number with
area code of the person so it looks like xxx...@text.xxx.net.
Somewhere in the process, it's gets the strange phone number.



The '@text.xxx.net' is a service which converts emails into text 
messages.  That service is the one which is generating the number.


I have used a similar service in the past.  If the recipient replied by 
text message to the generated number, then the service would convert the 
reply text message into an email to me.


If you want to change the generated number, you will have to do a deal 
with the people who run the '@text.xxx.net' service.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

2012-10-16 Thread Ant

On 10/15/2012 5:21 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:

> FWIW, I reached them, apparently the way this person did the change

didn't go live to users until today. I also got an automated message
that it did go live, and mistook an earlier message of "successful
submission" as "successful whitelist".

I could have had it live on friday if I submitted it a few hours
earlier. -- I will endeavor to do so in the future.


Thanks. :)
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Mozilla SeaMonkey Composer Web Editor

2012-10-16 Thread Kompelli, Vishal
Hi Team,

I am from Citi - Application Management Team. We are currently in the process 
of migrating all our desktops from Vista to Win7. In order to migrate these 
users to Windows 7 the applications mentioned below may need remediation. In 
that regards I have one query as mentioned below.

Name of the Applications:
APPLICATION NAME

VERSION

Mozilla SeaMonkey Composer Web Editor v1.1.9

v1.1.9




>  Could you please let me know whether above applications is certified for 
> Windows 7(64-bit compatible) and Citrix(64-bits compatible)?

Thanks & Regards,

Vishal kompelli
Architecture & Technology Engineering
Client Computing
Direct Phone #: +91 22 40395156
Email ID: vishal.kompe...@citi.com
Team DL:  *CATE Global CDO Application Readiness Team

For Feedback and Managerial Escalation:
Robert Sterlacci/Ken Salch | Team Contact: *CATE Global CDO Application 
Readiness Team




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