Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread Rob
bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote:
 Yes this requires activeX

Then it will not work.  ActiveX is a Microsoft thing.

There appears to exist a plugin that may work around this, but I would
not recommend installing such a thing.  It may well make your browser
unstable and/or insecure.
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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Rickles

Roger Fink wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had
SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in
the Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA
applets would not run. ...

Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the
latest version of the JAVA plugin.

It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid
to rest with honors.

Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.


On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright
red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be
vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More
information, which points here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182. Details
of the block request are available here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM
2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying
I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked, Java started,
and it ran normally.

I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again,
I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did
not enable Java globally or permanently.

Accordingly, two points:

1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting
you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability,
you can, on demand.

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War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.


The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM
v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you
describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java
presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I
selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a
glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances
if you need to (and some of us do).

I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle
placeholder, nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the Java
(version) is known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution. Then a
link called 'More Information' which takes you to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case
of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled
and no longer usable.

Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can
turn Java back on?


If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of
several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That
should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss


And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would
completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a
later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey
and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus.


Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through
Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey.


I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest 
version, but it's not changing anything.  In the Java control panel 
applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for 
browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets 
cleared again.  And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this 
thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and 
authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in the 
Java Cntrl Pnl applet.


This is really getting old.
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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread W3BNR
On 1/18/2013 10:01 PM bern...@nospam.com submitted the following:
 Yes this requires activeX
 Rob wrote:
 W3BNR w3...@verizon.net wrote:
 On 1/17/2013 12:06 PM bern...@nospam.com submitted the following:
 Anyone know why coupon printer application does not work with Seamonkey. 
 The
 coupon printer app is installed when you want to print coupons on sites 
 such as
 scjohnson.com which market cleaners and just about everything else for the 
 home
 (scrubbing bubbles, etc) and other sites that use the app to print online
 coupons with bar codes. It works fine in Internet Explorer. Anyone have a
 workaround for this. This is a minor issue so I am not overly concerned 
 about
 it. Just want to know if there is a fix.
 Bernie

 Don't know of any fix, but I agree that it doesn't work.  I go to a site to
 print a coupon.  It says I need 'coupon printer' and to download and 
 install it,
 and the coupon will print then.  I download and install it and nothing 
 happens
 except the site I'm on thinks I printed the coupon and I can't retrieve it 
 to
 print again.

 I have complained to sites that use this method of printing coupons and most
 will then send via snail mail the coupon.

 I never have had this work in any version of SeaMonkey with any version of
 Windows (up to Version 7).  Always works in IE.

 What kind of plugin is that coupon printer?
 Is it ActiveX?  IE will tell you that when you go to the site without
 the plugin installed.

 

Yes, ActiveX is installed with Windows 7.

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Daniel

Rickles wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.


Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't
have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the
plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the
Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what
I described to begin with.


Mr Rickles, have you tried clicking the Disable button

I'm guessing that Jave would be disabled *and the Disable button would 
change to an Enable button!!*


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Re: WebM Playback problem.

2013-01-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Ed Mullen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JAS wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

This short little video clip plays just fine in Chrome.  However, in
Seamonkey, it goes straight to the end when you hit the Play button.
Haven't tried it in FireFox so I don't know if it has the same issue
or not.

http://jaime.nassauwings.org:8800/cgi-bin/VideoPlay.rex?2013/0114_01_JewelMensRoom.webm

Any ideas?  I've got plenty of WebM and OGV videos on my site; this is
the only one that doesn't play right.  They were all created/converted
the same way.

Thanks,


I notice that if I set the slider to 1 sec and hit play it plays OK?



Does the same thing in Firefox.



Thanks... so the problem isn't in Seamonkey specifically, but apparently 
in Gecko.



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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Rickles wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had
SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in
the Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA
applets would not run. ...

Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the
latest version of the JAVA plugin.

It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid
to rest with honors.

Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.


On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright
red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be
vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More
information, which points here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182. Details
of the block request are available here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM
2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying
I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked, Java started,
and it ran normally.

I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again,
I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did
not enable Java globally or permanently.

Accordingly, two points:

1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting
you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability,
you can, on demand.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.


The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM
v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you
describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java
presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I
selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a
glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances
if you need to (and some of us do).

I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle
placeholder, nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the Java
(version) is known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution. Then a
link called 'More Information' which takes you to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case
of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled
and no longer usable.

Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can
turn Java back on?


If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of
several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That
should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss


And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would
completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a
later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey
and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus.


Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through
Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey.



I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest
version, but it's not changing anything.  In the Java control panel
applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for
browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets
cleared again.  And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this
thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and
authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in the
Java Cntrl Pnl applet.

This is really getting old.


It sounds to me like you keep reinstalling Java 6 when you should be 
installing Java 7...


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Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread Danny Kile
Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then 
click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window, all I 
get is a black window no movie. I can play this in IE or in a IE Tab in 
SM. Does anyone know that the problem maybe? I am using SM 2.15 and 
Windows 7 Home Premium 64. Any help would be appreciated.


Danny
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Re: Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Danny Kile:

Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then 
click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window

WFM on SM 2.18a1 Linux x86_64.

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Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem

2013-01-19 Thread Roger Fink
question wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm
 running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far
 as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations,
 are identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to
 machine. On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem
 on Win7. At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey
 asked for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no
 problem there. But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to 
 access
 streaming quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to
 launch java. Firefox launches java here without a problem.

 Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at
 Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it
 was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try.

 I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and
 where I would expect the same problem of not being able to launch
 java to occur, works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be
 site-related.
 The newest version of Java .. raises the secrity lever Bat to HIGH
 because of Kackers taking control... It checks for Security
 Certificates at the web sites. If there expired or have none , it
   will not function.. Click Java in control panel and lower the
 security bar to Medium. But download the newest java from Java.com .. They 
 also explain this
 to you .

Here's a question, question. Why don't I have this problem in Firefox 18, 
which is the equivalent level browser to Seamonkey 15, and which I've 
configured the same way? Anyway, thanks for the tip. 


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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread Roger Fink
Rickles wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 Rickles wrote:
 Roger Fink wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Michael Gordon wrote:

 SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I
 had SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling
 JAVA in the Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15
 and JAVA applets would not run. ...

 Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the
 latest version of the JAVA plugin.

 It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire
 Breathing Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and
 should be laid to rest with honors.

 Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.

 On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a
 bright red message, Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be
 vulnerable. Use with caution, followed by a link to More
 information, which points here:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p182.
 Details of the block request are available here:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829111. Using SM
 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
 and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece
 saying I had to click here to activate plugin. I clicked,
 Java started, and it ran normally.

 I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and
 returned, logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure.
 Once again, I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that
 one click did not enable Java globally or permanently.

 Accordingly, two points:

 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
 Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for
 protecting you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its
 vulnerability, you can, on demand.

 --
 War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.

 The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my
 SM v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like
 what you describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable
 it, java presented me with an option to remember the permission,
 which I selected. The second time it just presented the box, so
 there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in
 selected instances if you need to (and some of us do).
 I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle
 placeholder, nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the
 Java (version) is known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution.
 Then a link called 'More Information' which takes you to
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the
 case of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically
 disabled and no longer usable.

 Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
 supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can
 turn Java back on?

 If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one
 of several display options) a check box to enable or disable java.
 That should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss

 And based on the recognition problem you're experiencing, I would
 completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a
 later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via
 Seamonkey and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that
 detritus.

 Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall
 through Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey.


 I had already done the complete cleanup and re-install of the latest
 version, but it's not changing anything.  In the Java control panel
 applet, I have ticked the box under 'Advanced - Default java for
 browsers - Mozilla Family', but as soon as SM opens, the box gets
 cleared again.  And using the Pogo site as called out earlier in this
 thread, there is no puzzle-piece drawing where I can select and
 authorize the use of Java, no matter how I set the security level in
 the Java Cntrl Pnl applet.

 This is really getting old.

Try re-installing the same version of SeaMonkey over itself.
Longshot, but longshots are all you have left. 


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[linux] closing a tab with middle click

2013-01-19 Thread Béèm
Having had a crash HDD I had to re-install Seamonkey. I had 2.11 and 
installed now 2.15
I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on 
an open tab and it closed.

In 2.15 this doesn't work anymore.
Is this due to a 'feature change' in 2.15, or was it a plugin in 2.11 
which I might have installed?

I didn't have to re-install the OS.
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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread Rob
W3BNR w3...@verizon.net wrote:

 Yes, ActiveX is installed with Windows 7.

SeaMonkey does not do ActiveX.
Use Internet Explorer.
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Re: Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Danny Kile wrote:


Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then
click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window, all I
get is a black window no movie. I can play this in IE or in a IE Tab in
SM. Does anyone know that the problem maybe? I am using SM 2.15 and
Windows 7 Home Premium 64. Any help would be appreciated.


WFM.

SM 2.15, Win7 Pro SP1.

Update/reinstall Flash?

Overactive ad blocker?

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Re: Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread GerardJan

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:


Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then
click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window,
all I
get is a black window no movie. I can play this in IE or in a IE Tab in
SM. Does anyone know that the problem maybe? I am using SM 2.15 and
Windows 7 Home Premium 64. Any help would be appreciated.


WFM.

SM 2.15, Win7 Pro SP1.

Update/reinstall Flash?

Overactive ad blocker?



Sorry I cannot help you, I have given up on Microsoft, I ran everything 
on 64 bits Linux

$ fortune
temporary routing anomoly

sincerely,
ps.


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about:config

2013-01-19 Thread David C. Mores
On the about:config page what is the difference between line items that 
are bolded or not bolded?


Thanks,
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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/18/13 8:25 PM, question wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/18/13 11:27 AM, Rickles wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:
 I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
 security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
 wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
 our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
 SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
 Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
 Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

 This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
 appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
 back on in SM.


 Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.

 Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't
 have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the
 plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the
 Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what
 I described to begin with.

 I can begin to understand the current version of SM blocking Java due
 it's zero-day vulnerability, but if I am supposed to have the option to
 turn it back on, I have no idea how to do that because I can't see or
 find an option anywhere to re-enable it.  And Mr Gordon is accessing the
 same site as my wife, Pogo.com.  So he's seeing the same thing we are.
 And SM is preventing the site from using Java in any version state.

 I'm not as prepared to 'jump ship' as Mr Gordon puts it, but either I
 have a fault which prevents me from seeing a re-enable option (help!?),
 or someone has programmed this to take the choice away from me.  Either
 way, I can't there from here.

 I don't want to give up SM: I've seen Firefox and I prefer the suite
 verion I use now (and have been using for many years).  And I detest the
 MS product.  It's bad enough I have to put up with it at work, I don't
 want to deal with it at home as well. (I'm an IT system/network admin,
 but not a programmer.)


 Okay.  I'll rephrase my comment.

 Configuration:
 Windows XP SP3
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15
 Java J2SE RTE 7 update 11

 For me, I can still use Java.  I get a gray box with a Lego block and
 the caption: Click here to activate plugin.  I click (once, not
 double-click) on the caption, and Java is working.

 Just download the NEW java from http://www.java.com
 
 All it does is raise the Security level bar from Medium to HIGH ,,
 
 About pluggins No longer gives java as a Choice ,
 

I do not understand your reply.  When I request about:plugins, Java 7
u10 is the first one listed.

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Re: about:config

2013-01-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR


David C. Mores wrote:

 On the about:config page what is the difference between line items that are 
 bolded or not bolded?

User set ?
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Re: Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread Danny Kile

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:


Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then
click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window,
all I
get is a black window no movie. I can play this in IE or in a IE Tab in
SM. Does anyone know that the problem maybe? I am using SM 2.15 and
Windows 7 Home Premium 64. Any help would be appreciated.


WFM.

SM 2.15, Win7 Pro SP1.

Update/reinstall Flash?

Overactive ad blocker?




Already did update/reinstall of Flash.

Override Ad Blocker now this did it, thank you very much.

Danny
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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/18/13 11:27 AM, Rickles wrote [in part]:
 Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't 
 have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the 
 plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the 
 Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what 
 I described to begin with.

When you see the Disable button in the Add-ons Manager, that means the
add-on is enabled.

The only option for enabled plugins is to disable them for SeaMonkey,
using the button.  SeaMonkey cannot remove a plugin.  For extensions,
the options also include a Remove button and (in some cases) an
Option button.  When you select the Disable button, you cause the
add-on to become disabled.

For an add-on that is disabled, the button has the label Enable.  If
you select that button, you enable the add-on.

These are buttons that cause an action.  They are NOT indicators of the
current state of the add-on.

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Re: about:config

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/19/13 8:11 AM, David C. Mores wrote:
 On the about:config page what is the difference between line items that 
 are bolded or not bolded?
 
 Thanks,
 Dave
 

Bold items have values that are not the default values.  You have done
something to change the values of those preference variables.  You might
have done that explicitly by going to [Edit  Preferences] on the menu
bar, via about:config, or editing the user.js file in your profile.  You
might have changed a value implicitly by the way you browse or the pages
you visited.

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Re: about:config

2013-01-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR


David C. Mores wrote:
 You are probably right.  I did not make the association of the Status column 
 entries.  However, there must be more to it than just
 that.  Why are they bolded when their seems to be just two Status types - 
 default and user set?

To warn you that they are not defaulted ?
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Re: about:config

2013-01-19 Thread David C. Mores

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/19/13 8:11 AM, David C. Mores wrote:

On the about:config page what is the difference between line items that
are bolded or not bolded?

Thanks,
Dave



Bold items have values that are not the default values.  You have done
something to change the values of those preference variables.  You might
have done that explicitly by going to [Edit  Preferences] on the menu
bar, via about:config, or editing the user.js file in your profile.  You
might have changed a value implicitly by the way you browse or the pages
you visited.



That makes comprehensive sense.  Thanks!
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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread berniez

Rob wrote:

bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Yes this requires activeX


Then it will not work.  ActiveX is a Microsoft thing.

There appears to exist a plugin that may work around this, but I would
not recommend installing such a thing.  It may well make your browser
unstable and/or insecure.

Then how come it works in Firefox 17.0.1 I must need to change something 
in Seamonkey to fix this.

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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread WaltS

On 01/19/2013 12:03 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Rob wrote:

bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Yes this requires activeX


Then it will not work.  ActiveX is a Microsoft thing.

There appears to exist a plugin that may work around this, but I would
not recommend installing such a thing.  It may well make your browser
unstable and/or insecure.


Then how come it works in Firefox 17.0.1 I must need to change something
in Seamonkey to fix this.



Have you asked on their support site?

http://www.coupons.com/CouponWeb/help/print/index.html

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Re: Ccleaner and Sea Monkey

2013-01-19 Thread A Williams

may12.newsgroup wrote:

I regularly run Ccleaner to get rid of temporary files and keep trash
cleared out. Every time I  run it I lose my passwords. I have passwords
and cookies unchecked in Ccleaner but it deletes them anyhow. Is there
any kind of relation between the two applications that would cause this?

Walter


When you tell Ccleaner not to delete that stuff, you are probably only 
telling it not to delete Internet Exploder passwords and cookies.

Can you tell the program to leave your Seamonkey directory well alone?
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Re: Ccleaner and Sea Monkey

2013-01-19 Thread may12.newsgroup

On 1/19/2013 11:20 AM, A Williams wrote:

may12.newsgroup wrote:

I regularly run Ccleaner to get rid of temporary files and keep trash
cleared out. Every time I  run it I lose my passwords. I have passwords
and cookies unchecked in Ccleaner but it deletes them anyhow. Is there
any kind of relation between the two applications that would cause this?

Walter


When you tell Ccleaner not to delete that stuff, you are probably only
telling it not to delete Internet Exploder passwords and cookies.
Can you tell the program to leave your Seamonkey directory well alone?


I think you have given me the clue to this problem. Thanks.

w.

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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread W3BNR
On 1/19/2013 12:06 PM WaltS submitted the following:
 On 01/19/2013 12:03 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote:
 Yes this requires activeX

 Then it will not work.  ActiveX is a Microsoft thing.

 There appears to exist a plugin that may work around this, but I would
 not recommend installing such a thing.  It may well make your browser
 unstable and/or insecure.

 Then how come it works in Firefox 17.0.1 I must need to change something
 in Seamonkey to fix this.

 
 Have you asked on their support site?
 
 http://www.coupons.com/CouponWeb/help/print/index.html
 

Guess they don't check for SeaMonkey.  Here's what they support according to
their faq:

Coupon printing is currently supported on all versions of Microsoft Windows 8,
7, Vista, XP, Server 2003, and 2000 when used with Internet Explorer 6.0 or
higher, Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or higher, Netscape Navigator 8.0 or higher, Google
Chrome, Apple Safari, Opera, and most MSN and AOL browsers.

I guess I should have looked there a long time ago and complained about not
having SM on their list.  (As if that would do any good).


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Re: [linux] closing a tab with middle click

2013-01-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Béèm:

I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on 
an open tab and it closed.

I do not use that, but a test shows that it is so for my SM. Looking
into 'about:config' with the filter middle i see
middlemouse.contentLoadURL with the value false. Might be worth a try. :)

Hartmut
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Re: Redbox Trailers will not play

2013-01-19 Thread JAS
Danny Kile wrote:
 Going to http://www.redbox.com locate a movie of your choice and then
 click on play trailer. This should bring up the play movie window, all
 I get is a black window no movie. I can play this in IE or in a IE Tab
 in SM. Does anyone know that the problem maybe? I am using SM 2.15 and
 Windows 7 Home Premium 64. Any help would be appreciated.

 Danny
Plays fine for me with Win XP Pro SM 2.15

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Select All in Location Bar

2013-01-19 Thread Cecil Bankston
I have to triple-click or drag select the current URL in the location 
bar before typing a new URL.  Is there a setting in about:config I could 
change to make a single click in the location bar select the entire old URL?

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Re: Select All in Location Bar

2013-01-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Cecil Bankston:

I have to triple-click or drag select the current URL in the location 
bar before typing a new URL.  Is there a setting in about:config I could 
change to make a single click in the location bar select the entire old URL?

'about:config' with the filter select shows
browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects and browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll. You
could play with that. :)

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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread WaltS

On 01/19/2013 12:27 PM, W3BNR wrote:

On 1/19/2013 12:06 PM WaltS submitted the following:

On 01/19/2013 12:03 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Rob wrote:

bern...@nospam.com bern...@nospam.com wrote:

Yes this requires activeX


Then it will not work.  ActiveX is a Microsoft thing.

There appears to exist a plugin that may work around this, but I would
not recommend installing such a thing.  It may well make your browser
unstable and/or insecure.


Then how come it works in Firefox 17.0.1 I must need to change something
in Seamonkey to fix this.



Have you asked on their support site?

http://www.coupons.com/CouponWeb/help/print/index.html



Guess they don't check for SeaMonkey.  Here's what they support according to
their faq:

Coupon printing is currently supported on all versions of Microsoft Windows 8,
7, Vista, XP, Server 2003, and 2000 when used with Internet Explorer 6.0 or
higher, Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or higher, Netscape Navigator 8.0 or higher, Google
Chrome, Apple Safari, Opera, and most MSN and AOL browsers.

I guess I should have looked there a long time ago and complained about not
having SM on their list.  (As if that would do any good).




But the OP, and you are showing SeaMonkey advertising Firefox 
compatibility, so I would think it should work.


I would go through all my SeaMonkey Browser, Security  Privacy, and 
Advanced preferences to see if anything is new, or old that needs to be set.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15 Update Lost E-mail Files

2013-01-19 Thread NoOp
On 01/17/2013 01:45 PM, HenriK wrote:
 On both my and my wife's PCs, we have used SeaMonkey since it first 
 became available.  On my wife's PC, running XP-Home, fully updated, 
 SeaMonkey 2.15 automatically installed itself a day or so ago.  The 
 latest Java update also installed itself the same day.
 
 When the machine was booted this morning, the e-mail menu and icons that 
 used to come up were missing and SeaMonkey called for a new e-mail 
 account to be set up.  Other than the missing e-mail menus, everything 
 else in SeaMonkey seems to be working properly.  This situation reminds 
 me of a previous SeaMonkey upgrade where the bookmarks files went missing.
 
 As I go back to the MS-DOS days, I looked at the hard drive file 
 structure and it looks like both the e-mail and bookmarks files are, in 
 fact, still sitting on the hard drive in their proper positions.
 
 1)  Can someone explain to me in simple language what may have gone wrong?
 
 2)  Can some kind soul tell me in a step-by-step 'fix it for dummies' 
 style how to get the e-mail working again?

Check your C:\Documents and Settings\gg\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey profiles.ini file. That file tells SM which
profile to use on startup. Example:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/xyz.default

Within the
C:\Documents and Settings\x\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\xyz.default
is the prefs.js file. That file tells SM where your email/news/etc files
are located. Check to see if you have a backup of that file. If not, you
can edit with Wordpad or similar to point to xyz.default.

The alternative is to create a new profile, then in
Edit|Mail and News...|emailaccount|Server Settings|Local directory:
and point that to:

C:\Documents and Settings\x\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\xyz.default\Mail\pop.xyz (if pop account)

Do the same for News etc.

This is the same as if you were to move the files to a different system
 need to use the same mail folders etc. You can do a mass find 
replace in prefs.js to point to the new location/profile.

 
 3)  Ditto for restoring the bookmarks files.

Thanks to Rob in my 'SM 2.15 (linux) bookmarks missing' thread:

Just remove places.sqlite* and it will be imported from your last
backup or from whatever source you manually import it.

 
 Thanks, in advance, for any and all assistance.
 

Good luck.


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Re: coupon printer

2013-01-19 Thread Charlie Siracuse

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/19/2013 12:27 PM W3BNR submitted the following:

On 1/19/2013 12:06 PM WaltS submitted the following:

 T E X T   D E L E T E D 


Have you asked on their support site?

http://www.coupons.com/CouponWeb/help/print/index.html


Guess they don't check for SeaMonkey.  Here's what they support according to
their faq:

Coupon printing is currently supported on all versions of Microsoft Windows 8,
7, Vista, XP, Server 2003, and 2000 when used with Internet Explorer 6.0 or
higher, Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or higher, Netscape Navigator 8.0 or higher, Google
Chrome, Apple Safari, Opera, and most MSN and AOL browsers.

I guess I should have looked there a long time ago and complained about not
having SM on their list.  (As if that would do any good).



I have asked the why's and wherefore's as to not supporting SeaMonkey at their
web page  http://www.couponsinc.com/corporate/ContactUs.aspx

Anyone else want to ask them?
Or you can wait to see if I get a response.

I asked them a while ago and they said they have gotten hardly any 
requests for seamonkey access.  Let's get as many as possible to request 
this access.  I did get a phone response.

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

2013-01-19 Thread NoOp
Michael Gordon wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:
 I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
 security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
 wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
 our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
 SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
 Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
 Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

 This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
 appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
 back on in SM.


 Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.

 
 
 David,
 
 SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had SM 
 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the
 Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets
 would not run.

Works for me:

Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11

File: npjp2.dll
Version: 10.11.2.21
Next Generation Java Plug-in 10.11.2 for Mozilla browsers

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15
Build identifier: 20130105222038

This is on WinXP. Ditto for Win7. It only blocks on linux (see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622).

That said, I'm not sure you want to have java enabled unless it is
absolutely necessary, and even then only on trusted sites/applications:

http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2013-January/089440.html

I highly recommend adding Prefbar so that Java can easily be turned
on/off as necessary.

 
 I checked the Ad-Ons Manager and JAVA was disabled, I enabled JAVA
 and tried the previous applets, they would not run, in fact the web
 site (Pogo.com)  insisted I download and install the latest version
 of the JAVA plugin.  I downloaded again from the Oracle web site and
 tried to install, the install program stated I already had the
 current version installed, I replied to install anyway.
 
 After restarting SM I tried the Pogo.com applet and again I was
 prompted to install the latest JAVA upstate.
 
 Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest 
 version of the JAVA plugin.
 
 It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
 Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to
 rest with honors.

Bye now.

 
 Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.
 
 M Gordon
 

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2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread Tom

When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the URL 
since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename.

Can I change this that it is like before?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14.1 won't remember Browser and Email window positions

2013-01-19 Thread bill
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:47:17 PM UTC-5, bi...@cowboyneeds.com wrote:
 We are a business and always have both the Browser and Email windows open in 
 Win XP. These are both checked to open when SeaMonkey starts. The default use 
 to be Browser first, then email to the right. If somehow this order was 
 changed, you could put them in the order you want, exit SeaMonkey, and upon 
 restart it would open with the window positions you had upon exit. The latest 
 SeaMonkey update starts with Email on the left, and the Browser to the right, 
 and will not remember these if changed and restarted. It is a small thing, 
 but the reason we use SeaMonkey (and always used Netscape) is it lets us 
 customize much better than IE.
 
 
 
 Does anybody know how to force SeaMonkey to open with Browser on left and 
 Email on right, on the Win XP task bar. We have multiple computers and 
 SeaMonkey profiles, so consistency is important.

Thanks Michael Gordon. 
I am talking about the System Task Bar with the Clock. Either a Windows XP, or 
a SeaMonkey update, changed this behavior. SeaMonkey always use to reopen its 
component windows in the order they were in when we last closed the program, 
but now when opened, it always forces the SeaMonkey Email component to open 
first, and be closest to the Start button. 
We always have SeaMonkey's Browser and Email windows open on the System Task 
Bar. We are an internet store, and frequently are replying to customers emails 
with links to specific products on our html website. Those are the main 
programs we have open, and use constantly, throughout the day. While we may 
also need to open Excel, an HTML editor, an FTP program, etc., it is always 
handiest to have the SeaMonkey Browser window open to the far left on the 
System Task Bar (closest to Start button), and then SeaMonkey Email, and then 
other programs to the right of these, which get opened and closed throughout 
the day. When this order changes, we have to spend more time hunting the 
correct window on the System Task Bar to click, instead of just knowing where 
it is.
Its an annoyance more than anything, I just don't know what changed in one of 
the updates, but it effected four computers at the same time, so this is not a 
one computer preference setting. I have done a work around by only having 
SeaMonkey open the Browser, and then we click SeaMonkey's Email icon to open 
the Email component to the right. We have multiple SeaMonkey Profiles, so it is 
just one more step every time we open SeaMonkey. I was hoping somebody knew 
what changed, and a simple fix.
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Re: Select All in Location Bar

2013-01-19 Thread Cecil Bankston

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Cecil Bankston:


I have to triple-click or drag select the current URL in the location
bar before typing a new URL.  Is there a setting in about:config I could
change to make a single click in the location bar select the entire old URL?


'about:config' with the filter select shows
browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects and browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll. You
could play with that. :)

Hartmut

Both of those already are set as true in my about:config.  Is there 
some other file I should check that might be over-riding those settings?


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Re: Ccleaner and Sea Monkey

2013-01-19 Thread Danny Kile

may12.newsgroup wrote:

On 1/19/2013 11:20 AM, A Williams wrote:

may12.newsgroup wrote:

I regularly run Ccleaner to get rid of temporary files and keep trash
cleared out. Every time I  run it I lose my passwords. I have passwords
and cookies unchecked in Ccleaner but it deletes them anyhow. Is there
any kind of relation between the two applications that would cause this?

Walter


When you tell Ccleaner not to delete that stuff, you are probably only
telling it not to delete Internet Exploder passwords and cookies.
Can you tell the program to leave your Seamonkey directory well alone?


I think you have given me the clue to this problem. Thanks.

w.

Under the Cleaner Tab go to applications it will be there under 
Firefox/Mozilla.


Danny
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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/19/13 11:53 AM, Tom wrote:
 When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename
 in the URL since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as
 filename.
 
 Can I change this that it is like before?
 

It is the page title that is being used to name the file.  This is not
good when the title includes special characters that might not be valid
in a file name.

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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 19/01/2013 17:53, Tom told the world:
 When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the 
 URL since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename.
 
 Can I change this that it is like before?
 

Well, this change in behavior was documented in bug 254139:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254139

Apparently this change has been requested for years, and Mozilla was the
only major browser who did *not* do this. The reasoning is that in most
cases the page title field is more descriptive than the filename --
that's particularly true in large sites with automatically-generated pages.

There isn't a pref to turn it off, but Gavin Sharp made an extension for
people who prefer the old way (linked from Comment #71 on the bug thread):

https://github.com/gavinsharp/SaveAsFilename


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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/19/13 5:18 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/19/13 11:53 AM, Tom wrote:
 When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename
 in the URL since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as
 filename.

 Can I change this that it is like before?

 
 It is the page title that is being used to name the file.  This is not
 good when the title includes special characters that might not be valid
 in a file name.
 

See my new bug report #832707 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832707.

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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread GerardJan

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/01/2013 17:53, Tom told the world:

When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the URL 
since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename.

Can I change this that it is like before?



Well, this change in behavior was documented in bug 254139:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254139

Apparently this change has been requested for years, and Mozilla was the
only major browser who did *not* do this. The reasoning is that in most
cases the page title field is more descriptive than the filename --
that's particularly true in large sites with automatically-generated pages.

There isn't a pref to turn it off, but Gavin Sharp made an extension for
people who prefer the old way (linked from Comment #71 on the bug thread):

https://github.com/gavinsharp/SaveAsFilename




as I said, I have given up on Micro-soft

sincerly


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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/19/13 5:52 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 19/01/2013 17:53, Tom told the world:
 When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the 
 URL since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename.

 Can I change this that it is like before?

 
 Well, this change in behavior was documented in bug 254139:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254139
 
 Apparently this change has been requested for years, and Mozilla was the
 only major browser who did *not* do this. The reasoning is that in most
 cases the page title field is more descriptive than the filename --
 that's particularly true in large sites with automatically-generated pages.
 
 There isn't a pref to turn it off, but Gavin Sharp made an extension for
 people who prefer the old way (linked from Comment #71 on the bug thread):
 
 https://github.com/gavinsharp/SaveAsFilename
 
 

The SaveAsFilename extension is not compatible with SeaMonkey.  It
appears to be a Firefox-only extension.

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Re: 2.15. Save Page As. filename

2013-01-19 Thread Tom

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/01/2013 17:53, Tom told the world:

When I download an .html page seamonkey uses no longer the filename in the URL 
since V2.15 but it uses the description of the page as filename.

Can I change this that it is like before?



Well, this change in behavior was documented in bug 254139:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254139


Thank you for the info.


Apparently this change has been requested for years,


Not from me.


and Mozilla was the
only major browser who did *not* do this.


That's why I like and use Seamonkey


The reasoning is that in most
cases the page title field is more descriptive than the filename


When I download pages from online magazines or newspapers the filename is often descriptive. Otherwise I 
change it to a descriptive name. I do not like filenames with   instead of _ or 
-.




There isn't a pref to turn it off, but Gavin Sharp made an extension for
people who prefer the old way (linked from Comment #71 on the bug thread):

https://github.com/gavinsharp/SaveAsFilename


How can I install this?

It would be nice when a future version of SeaMonkey has the feature to toggle 
between filename and description.

I prefer the traditional way.

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Bye bye seamonkey

2013-01-19 Thread question
Since Seamonkey is set to Disable Java as it startup,, many of us will 
be moving to INTERNET EXPLOITER ..




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14.1 won't remember Browser and Email window positions

2013-01-19 Thread Daniel

b...@cowboyneeds.com wrote:

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:47:17 PM UTC-5, bi...@cowboyneeds.com wrote:

We are a business and always have both the Browser and Email windows open in 
Win XP. These are both checked to open when SeaMonkey starts. The default use 
to be Browser first, then email to the right. If somehow this order was 
changed, you could put them in the order you want, exit SeaMonkey, and upon 
restart it would open with the window positions you had upon exit. The latest 
SeaMonkey update starts with Email on the left, and the Browser to the right, 
and will not remember these if changed and restarted. It is a small thing, but 
the reason we use SeaMonkey (and always used Netscape) is it lets us customize 
much better than IE.



Does anybody know how to force SeaMonkey to open with Browser on left and Email 
on right, on the Win XP task bar. We have multiple computers and SeaMonkey 
profiles, so consistency is important.


Thanks Michael Gordon.
I am talking about the System Task Bar with the Clock. Either a Windows XP, or 
a SeaMonkey update, changed this behavior. SeaMonkey always use to reopen its 
component windows in the order they were in when we last closed the program, 
but now when opened, it always forces the SeaMonkey Email component to open 
first, and be closest to the Start button.
We always have SeaMonkey's Browser and Email windows open on the System Task Bar. We are 
an internet store, and frequently are replying to customers emails with links to specific 
products on our html website. Those are the main programs we have open, and use 
constantly, throughout the day. While we may also need to open Excel, an HTML editor, an 
FTP program, etc., it is always handiest to have the SeaMonkey Browser window open to the 
far left on the System Task Bar (closest to Start button), and then SeaMonkey Email, and 
then other programs to the right of these, which get opened and closed throughout the 
day. When this order changes, we have to spend more time hunting the correct window on 
the System Task Bar to click, instead of just knowing where it is.
Its an annoyance more than anything, I just don't know what changed in one of the 
updates, but it effected four computers at the same time, so this is not a one computer 
preference setting. I have done a work around by only having SeaMonkey open 
the Browser, and then we click SeaMonkey's Email icon to open the Email component to the 
right. We have multiple SeaMonkey Profiles, so it is just one more step every time we 
open SeaMonkey. I was hoping somebody knew what changed, and a simple fix.


Sorry, Bill, when I replied, earlier in this thread, I thought you were 
trying to arrange things on your desktop, but, reading the above, it 
seems you're trying to arrange things on your taskbar.


I think this is a function of Windows, *not* SeaMonkey!! Have you 
recently done anything to Windows System which may have changed things??


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