Re: Toolbar disappeared

[David E. Ross]

On 8/9/13 9:02 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
> David Kerridge wrote:
>> I made a bad selection or something on a drop-down screen and my top and
>> bottom tool bars disappeared, the top is the one that has the bookmarks
>> line on plus the two that I added, "Interests and Shopping" on them and
>> the bottom bar too, now the only way I can shut the computer down, right
>> now I have to do a "ctrl-alt-del" to shut down. I need help not
>> criticism please.
> 
> go to View Menu  > Show Hide and make sure every item has a Check box.
> 
> Then uncheck each item you don't want.
> 

It appears Kerridge's menu bar is also missing, so he cannot do that.

Instead, he should look right under the title bar, the Windows bar at
the top of the window.  Just under the title bar at the far left, there
might be two rectangles, each with a right-pointing triangle at the left
end and dots resembling Braille text.  If so, left-click on each of them.

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Re: Toolbar disappeared

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David Kerridge wrote:


I made a bad selection or something on a drop-down screen and my top
and bottom tool bars disappeared, the top is the one that has the
bookmarks line on plus the two that I added, "Interests and Shopping"
on them and the bottom bar too, now the only way I can shut the
computer down, right now I have to do a "ctrl-alt-del" to shut down.
I need help not criticism please.


If you're talking about the SeaMonkey menu bar (File, Edit, View, ...), 
look just under the round blue SeaMonkey logo at the far upper left 
corner of the window and you should see one or more speckly rectangles. 
Mouse over each and you should get a tooltip identifying it: "Search 
Bar," "Mail Toolbar," "Menu Bar." If you see one you like, click it and 
it'll reappear. If you decide you don't want one, do the same thing to 
its left edge (the speckly area) and it'll hide again.


As for shutting the computer down, that's not a SeaMonkey issue. You'll 
have to consult a Windows 8 expert.


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Re: Show URLs in HTML emails

[Janine Starykowicz]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/10/13 7:15 AM +0900, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:



Do you mean the status bar is no longer being displayed? Go to 
View-->Show/Hide-->Status_Bar to show the status bar. When it is displayed, there 
will be a check mark beside "Status
Bar".



Ah. When I open the email I can see it now. I almost never open emails though, 
and the status bar used to show it in the preview pane. Now that area stays 
blank. Is there a way to
make it show in preview like it used to?


For me, it still does, Janine. View | Show/Hide | Status Bar checked should 
enable the status bar below the preview pane and display URLs.

Cheers,

trane


Status bar is there in preview pane, it is just blank. I turned it off and then back on to check. When I open an email, it shows the links, but in preview it stays blank. I've 
noticed this working sometimes, seems on some of the updates. Is there an option somewhere that would make it appear, but not show anything? I'm not using any themes.


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Re: Toolbar disappeared

[PhillipJones]

David Kerridge wrote:

I made a bad selection or something on a drop-down screen and my top and
bottom tool bars disappeared, the top is the one that has the bookmarks
line on plus the two that I added, "Interests and Shopping" on them and
the bottom bar too, now the only way I can shut the computer down, right
now I have to do a "ctrl-alt-del" to shut down. I need help not
criticism please.


go to View Menu  > Show Hide and make sure every item has a Check box.

Then uncheck each item you don't want.

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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[PhillipJones]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/9/13 7:26 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

keith_w wrote:

Sort of OT... I passed my latest DMV eye test, barely, two years ago, and a
year later gave up driving, gave my car to my daughter. She needed one
badly, and I would soon become a danger to pedestrians wearing dark
clothing...
My wife and I talked it over, and I handed over the keys.
One of the hardest things I've ever had to do... give up the freedom of
coming and going as i chose. Whew.

But, it was the right decision. I keep telling myself.  

keith whaley


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:


On 8/10/13 4:08 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:

   I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole

screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye
test...lol



I LOVE that feature of OS X. Absolutely love it.

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I miss NoSquint in SeaMonkey. I am Constantly having to fiddle with the
zoom level on websites all the time. Thank god it still works in Firefox.

And Boy do I miss QuoteColors in SM it was a wonderful aid in reading
email in version 2.014. But in 2.20 b3 its been turned off.



Install the PrefBar extension and enable the Font+ and Font- buttons if
they are not already on the PrefBar toolbar.  Then go to
 and import the
Font Reset Button (Font=), which is handy if you forget how many times
you have used Font+ or Font-.

That’s exactly what the problem I am having.  I set NoSquint so that it 
enlarges fonts or background to a Give size it remembers that setting 
from each time you go to the site. and it saved setting for each 
individual website. because some sites didn't need as much magnification.


Also I'm constantly having to increase size of fonts in email and news 
because every time the program quits you lose those setting.


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Toolbar disappeared

[David Kerridge]

I made a bad selection or something on a drop-down screen and my top and 
bottom tool bars disappeared, the top is the one that has the bookmarks 
line on plus the two that I added, "Interests and Shopping" on them and 
the bottom bar too, now the only way I can shut the computer down, right 
now I have to do a "ctrl-alt-del" to shut down. I need help not 
criticism please.

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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[David E. Ross]

On 8/9/13 7:26 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
> keith_w wrote:
>> Sort of OT... I passed my latest DMV eye test, barely, two years ago, and a
>> year later gave up driving, gave my car to my daughter. She needed one
>> badly, and I would soon become a danger to pedestrians wearing dark
>> clothing...
>> My wife and I talked it over, and I handed over the keys.
>> One of the hardest things I've ever had to do... give up the freedom of
>> coming and going as i chose. Whew.
>>
>> But, it was the right decision. I keep telling myself.  
>>
>> keith whaley
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/10/13 4:08 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:
>>>
>>>   I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole
 screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye
 test...lol

>>>
>>> I LOVE that feature of OS X. Absolutely love it.
>>>
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> I miss NoSquint in SeaMonkey. I am Constantly having to fiddle with the 
> zoom level on websites all the time. Thank god it still works in Firefox.
> 
> And Boy do I miss QuoteColors in SM it was a wonderful aid in reading 
> email in version 2.014. But in 2.20 b3 its been turned off.
> 

Install the PrefBar extension and enable the Font+ and Font- buttons if
they are not already on the PrefBar toolbar.  Then go to
 and import the
Font Reset Button (Font=), which is handy if you forget how many times
you have used Font+ or Font-.

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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[PhillipJones]

keith_w wrote:

Sort of OT... I passed my latest DMV eye test, barely, two years ago, and a
year later gave up driving, gave my car to my daughter. She needed one
badly, and I would soon become a danger to pedestrians wearing dark
clothing...
My wife and I talked it over, and I handed over the keys.
One of the hardest things I've ever had to do... give up the freedom of
coming and going as i chose. Whew.

But, it was the right decision. I keep telling myself.  

keith whaley


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:


On 8/10/13 4:08 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:

  I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole

screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye
test...lol



I LOVE that feature of OS X. Absolutely love it.

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I miss NoSquint in SeaMonkey. I am Constantly having to fiddle with the 
zoom level on websites all the time. Thank god it still works in Firefox.


And Boy do I miss QuoteColors in SM it was a wonderful aid in reading 
email in version 2.014. But in 2.20 b3 its been turned off.


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Mozilla message removal eligibility notification (was: Re: So long Growl, we hardly new ya)

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-08-08 1:37 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2013-08-05 08:51 (GMT-0400) Chris Ilias composed:


I set replies to my post to go to my email address because this
discussion is not SeaMonkey support. It's not even about SeaMonkey. :)


SeaMonkey and Firefox are both built on a Gecko/Necko foundation.
Consequently, any dumbing down of Firefox that would need support via
change(s) to Gecko or Necko potentially affects SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey
users need to be on guard against such impacts upon it, intended or
otherwise.


I'd be happy to discuss with you via email, but like I said, this 
discussion does not belong here. More importantly, I've set followup-to 
header twice now, and you've ignored it twice. You've already been made 
aware of the forum rules, and yet continued to ignore the followup-to 
header. This tells me that you're not willing to respect the rules, and 
telling you about them will have no effect.


As per , this 
message is to inform you that your future infringing posts will be 
removed from the news server without warning or comment.


If you'd like to reply to this message, please email me with a valid 
return address, thanks. Replies to this message posted in the newsgroup 
will be removed.


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Re: Email preview notifier - I want it off.

[Mr. Cheese]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

prenard2...@gmail.com wrote:


I dont want a bubble at the bottom right of the screen to open and
show me what just came in email. The chime is enough, I dont need
people standing next to me to read the preview of who I just received
email from.

This just started with the 2.20 update.


According to the release notes (which you should see the first time you
launch the browser after an upgrade), there are new notification options
at Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Notifications.

So adjust the settings to what you like.


I don't see a "notifications" line in SM 2.20


I do, between "Message Display" and "Composition." Have you expanded the
"Mail & Newsgroups" group (click the triangle to the left of the name)
so you can see all the subgroups?


Got it! THX. I was looking in edit>mail & newsgroup Account Settings
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Re: SM 2.19 Email Line Spacing

[Jim Taylor]

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

The spacing between each major folder at the left and between each
subject on the right is at 1.5 or 2 lines whereas in SM 2.15 it was
single spaced.
How to get back to single spacing?



I didn't see that problem at 2.19 or 2.20, but I'm seeing it on 
2.22a2.  Did anybody figure out how to change it back to the way it was?


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Re: how to control signature display

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 6:06 AM +0900, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-08-09 5:00 AM, Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.


SeaMonkey has always displayed signatures in HTML messages in grey.
Maybe you had an extension like quotecolors set to not display
signatures in grey. :-/

In any case, you can use the instructions at
.



This would seem to be something different, Chris. I use HTML signatures 
with colours specified in various accounts. Since 2.19, the signatures 
display in the same colour, but with reduced intensity. "Dim", as the OP 
put it.


Personally, I dislike it, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a bug.

Cheers,

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Re: Show URLs in HTML emails

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 7:15 AM +0900, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:



Do you mean the status bar is no longer being displayed? Go to 
View-->Show/Hide-->Status_Bar to show the status bar. When it is displayed, there 
will be a check mark beside "Status
Bar".



Ah. When I open the email I can see it now. I almost never open emails though, 
and the status bar used to show it in the preview pane. Now that area stays 
blank. Is there a way to
make it show in preview like it used to?


For me, it still does, Janine. View | Show/Hide | Status Bar checked 
should enable the status bar below the preview pane and display URLs.


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Re: Show URLs in HTML emails

[Janine Starykowicz]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-08-09 4:53 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

I get a lot of phishing emails, and it is getting harder to tell them
apart. Especially ones pretending to be LinkedIn, Facebook, etc. They
will even filter to the appropriate folder. I used to be able to see the
URL in one of the bottom frames when I hovered over the links, but that
seems to have disappeared in various updates. Is there any way to get it
back?


Do you mean the status bar is no longer being displayed? Go to 
View-->Show/Hide-->Status_Bar to show the status bar. When it is displayed, there 
will be a check mark beside "Status
Bar".



Ah. When I open the email I can see it now. I almost never open emails though, and the status bar used to show it in the preview pane. Now that area stays blank. Is there a way to 
make it show in preview like it used to?




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Easy way to let users add meta-tags?

[frdtheman]

Hello

I'm taking a look at SeaMonkey Composer 2.20 as a free and easy-to-use WYSIWYG 
HTML editor.

I need users to be able to add some meta-tags as a way to eg. indicate the 
category a document belongs to.

I looked through the menus, but didn't find anything that seemed relevant.

Is there a ready-to-use solution? If not, what are the options to write an 
add-in that simply displays a list of key/values from which users can pick?

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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[keith_w]

Sort of OT... I passed my latest DMV eye test, barely, two years ago, and a
year later gave up driving, gave my car to my daughter. She needed one
badly, and I would soon become a danger to pedestrians wearing dark
clothing...
My wife and I talked it over, and I handed over the keys.
One of the hardest things I've ever had to do... give up the freedom of
coming and going as i chose. Whew.

But, it was the right decision. I keep telling myself.  

keith whaley


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:

> On 8/10/13 4:08 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:
>
>  I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole
>> screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye
>> test...lol
>>
>
> I LOVE that feature of OS X. Absolutely love it.
>
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Re: how to control signature display

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-08-09 5:00 AM, Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.


SeaMonkey has always displayed signatures in HTML messages in grey. 
Maybe you had an extension like quotecolors set to not display 
signatures in grey. :-/


In any case, you can use the instructions at 
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Re: Show URLs in HTML emails

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-08-09 4:53 PM, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

I get a lot of phishing emails, and it is getting harder to tell them
apart. Especially ones pretending to be LinkedIn, Facebook, etc. They
will even filter to the appropriate folder. I used to be able to see the
URL in one of the bottom frames when I hovered over the links, but that
seems to have disappeared in various updates. Is there any way to get it
back?


Do you mean the status bar is no longer being displayed? Go to 
View-->Show/Hide-->Status_Bar to show the status bar. When it is 
displayed, there will be a check mark beside "Status Bar".


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Re: Show URLs in HTML emails

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 5:53 AM +0900, Janine Starykowicz wrote:

I get a lot of phishing emails, and it is getting harder to tell them apart. 
Especially ones pretending to be LinkedIn, Facebook, etc. They will even filter 
to the appropriate
folder. I used to be able to see the URL in one of the bottom frames when I 
hovered over the links, but that seems to have disappeared in various updates. 
Is there any way to get
it back?



Is it possible that you managed to turn off your status bar? I still see 
URLs displayed in SM 2.20. With the mail window having focus, select 
View | Show/Hide | Status Bar. The latter should have a check beside it 
to indicate it's enabled.


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Show URLs in HTML emails

[Janine Starykowicz]

I get a lot of phishing emails, and it is getting harder to tell them apart. Especially ones pretending to be LinkedIn, Facebook, etc. They will even filter to the appropriate 
folder. I used to be able to see the URL in one of the bottom frames when I hovered over the links, but that seems to have disappeared in various updates. Is there any way to get 
it back?

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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 4:08 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:


I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole
screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye
test...lol


I LOVE that feature of OS X. Absolutely love it.

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Re: Want to hide list addresses from others on list

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 3:24 AM +0900, anzian...@dc.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, August 9, 2013 11:17:31 AM UTC-7, Rick Merrill wrote:



I just send them BCC


But that would mean typing them in each time. Oh now I get it, BCC the "list" and 
"To" me?


Yes, that's how I do it. Create a list in the address book, To goes to 
me and BCC gets the list name.


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Re: how to control signature display

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 12:57 AM +0900, Rob wrote:

David E. Ross  wrote:



The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies
and forwards.


No, this does not happen.
I also don't see a UI to control this.


Maybe not with HTML mail, but it certainly does in plain text. I tried 
with David's message and, sure enough, the reply did not contain his 
signature.


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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

[Ray_Net]

Bernard Delmée wrote, On 09/08/2013 08:51:

Bernard Delmée wrote, On 2013-08-09 08:37:

I have noticed a problem recently, which I did not have
with SeaMonkey v14.1.  With v17.1 and v20 some (most)
accented characters are incorrectly displayed in the
mail component of SeaMonkey. The characters are displayed
correctly if I select "view message body as simple HTML",
though. Only "original HTML" gives problems, but for many
(other) messages simple html is, well, too simplistic
and messes up formatting. The messages I am having problems
with contain French characters and originate from Outlook
but I wouldn't be too quick on blaming it on that source,
since again, the same messages/profile display just fine
(in original html mode) when reverting to SM14

Has anyone noticed something similar, or know of a related
bug already having been logged ?


I see a post by "flyguy" titled Getting strange characters in emails 
instead of ' and "

This describes a similar problem. In his case it seems the problematic
messages were using UTF-8 whereas mine are ISO-8859-1, and A.Williams
suggested the bug might be originating from ThunderBird 
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594646 )

Quite possibly, but unfortunately I can confirm the problem is
definitely still there in SM20.

I had exactly the same problem as yours.
So i modify "Preferences" - "Mail and Newsgroup" - "Character Encoding" 
- "Default Character Encoding"

changing it from "Western (ISO-8859-1)" to "Unicode (UTF-8)".
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Re: how to control signature display

[Ralph Fox]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:37:10 -0500, Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:

Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.


A HTML signature is embedded in a  for which
there is a fixed stylesheet with "opacity: 0.5" in the latest versions.
So the HTML the user designed is shown "dim", including company logo etc.
Not good.



To control the signature display, follow the instructions at
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color

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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Rick Merrill  wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> Rick Merrill  wrote:
>>> Rob wrote:
 I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
 noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
 (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
 has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

 I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
 I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
 when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
 quoted mail.

>>>
>>> cAN't you just delete the double dash?
>>
>> Yes.  That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator
>> pref does.
>>
>> But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only
>> for text signatures.
>>
>
> I did not notice mention of HTML in the OP's note,

Was my message that unclear?  Several people seem to have missed the
part "HTML mail", and I even explicitly mentioned that it was working
that way for text mail long before.

> but it seems reasonable that an 
> HTML sig would control its own display intensity.

But it doesn't.

A HTML signature is embedded in a  for which
there is a fixed stylesheet with "opacity: 0.5" in the latest versions.
So the HTML the user designed is shown "dim", including company logo etc.
Not good.
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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[Geoff Welsh]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:
As I recall, the OP had a min font of 14 defined, which is pretty

farkin' big.


Yep. I have a 14 point minimum myself, despite corrective lenses.

I set to None to avoid issues, but am constantly zooming the whole 
screen with control-scroll (Mac).  Hard to believe I passed the DMV eye 
test...lol


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Re: Want to hide list addresses from others on list

[Philip Taylor]

BCC: 

anzian...@dc.rr.com wrote:
> I maintain a small list. When I do a mailing, everyone's name is listed. I 
> prefer to keep these people anonymous. How do I set up the list to do that?
> Thank you
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rick Merrill]

Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.



cAN't you just delete the double dash?


Yes.  That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator
pref does.

But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only
for text signatures.



I did not notice mention of HTML in the OP's note, but it seems reasonable that an 
HTML sig would control its own display intensity.


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Re: Want to hide list addresses from others on list

[anziani14]

On Friday, August 9, 2013 11:17:31 AM UTC-7, Rick Merrill wrote:
> anzian...@dc.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > I maintain a small list. When I do a mailing, everyone's name is listed. I 
> > prefer to keep these people anonymous. How do I set up the list to do that?
> 
> > Thank you
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> I just send them BCC

But that would mean typing them in each time. Oh now I get it, BCC the "list" 
and "To" me?
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Re: Want to hide list addresses from others on list

[Rick Merrill]

anzian...@dc.rr.com wrote:

I maintain a small list. When I do a mailing, everyone's name is listed. I 
prefer to keep these people anonymous. How do I set up the list to do that?
Thank you



I just send them BCC

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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Rick Merrill  wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>>
>> I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
>> I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
>> when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
>> quoted mail.
>>
>
> cAN't you just delete the double dash?

Yes.  That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator
pref does.

But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only
for text signatures.
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Paul B. Gallagher  wrote:
> Trane Francks wrote:
>> On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote:
>>> Rob wrote:
 I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
 noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
 (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
 has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>>>
>>> Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in
>>> text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.
>>
>> That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs
>> displayed with the same "intensity" as normal text.
>
> Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes.

Oviously wrong; it did not work like that in 2.14.1 dated Nov 30, 2012.
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Want to hide list addresses from others on list

[anziani14]

I maintain a small list. When I do a mailing, everyone's name is listed. I 
prefer to keep these people anonymous. How do I set up the list to do that?
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Re: How to change email password on SM?

[Norman Fuchs]

On 8/8/2013 10:21 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Norman Fuchs wrote:


On 8/8/2013 3:02 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:


Then I suspect that either your Usenet a/c or your IMAP a/c is not using
the default o/g server.  Look under :

Edit / Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings

then select each of the accounts in turn (by clicking on its name
in the left-hand pane) and look at the very lowest setting in
the right-hand pane where you should see :

Outgoing Server (SMTP) [default]

Look to see if any are other than [default]



Yes, there are two listed.  One is smtp.purdue.edu (default) and the
other is smtp.googlemail.com.  I've discovered that if I set the
googlemail server for outgoing as my default for my Purdue account, it
works.  Curious.  Does this mean I should always have only one o/g
server?  If so, why does SM allow me to list many?  I've always had the
two servers listed.


Not necessarily, I've got two and it's not a problem. But some ISPs are
finicky, won't let you use anyone else's SMTP server.

Bottom line -- if you can get it to work, go with that.

Thank you for your help.  I now recall that at one time I had the two 
servers in the opposite order, so perhaps that caused the problem.  I 
have no idea how to change that order of listing.


In any case, it all works now, so thanks.
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rick Merrill]

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.



cAN't you just delete the double dash?


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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

[A Williams]

Bernard Delmée wrote:

Bernard Delmée wrote, On 2013-08-09 08:37:

I have noticed a problem recently, which I did not have
with SeaMonkey v14.1.  With v17.1 and v20 some (most)
accented characters are incorrectly displayed in the
mail component of SeaMonkey. The characters are displayed
correctly if I select "view message body as simple HTML",
though. Only "original HTML" gives problems, but for many
(other) messages simple html is, well, too simplistic
and messes up formatting. The messages I am having problems
with contain French characters and originate from Outlook
but I wouldn't be too quick on blaming it on that source,
since again, the same messages/profile display just fine
(in original html mode) when reverting to SM14

Has anyone noticed something similar, or know of a related
bug already having been logged ?


I see a post by "flyguy" titled Getting strange characters in emails
instead of ' and "
This describes a similar problem. In his case it seems the problematic
messages were using UTF-8 whereas mine are ISO-8859-1, and  A.Williams
suggested the bug might be originating from ThunderBird
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594646 )
Quite possibly, but unfortunately I can confirm the problem is
definitely still there in SM20.


I have one Windows system where I have set Seamonkey up to handle mail, 
and a couple of Linux systems with the same setup.  Mail stays on the 
server for n weeks or until I delete it.


The Windows XP machine renders such mail correctly and did with 2.19 as 
well.
The Linux machines still have the problem with 2.19, I have not updated 
to 2.20 yet.


Of course there may be some setting responsible, I normally display 
mails as text and I need to check the XP machine (it is elsewhere) to 
see if I changed that to 'display as html'.

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Re: how to control signature display

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I just wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)


Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in
text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.


That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs
displayed with the same "intensity" as normal text.


Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes.


Sorry, I overlooked the "HTML" bit above, I withdraw the remark.

Dimming the sig in plain-text messages is old.

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Re: how to control signature display

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)


Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in
text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.


That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs
displayed with the same "intensity" as normal text.


Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes.

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Re: Email preview notifier - I want it off.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

prenard2...@gmail.com wrote:


I dont want a bubble at the bottom right of the screen to open and
show me what just came in email. The chime is enough, I dont need
people standing next to me to read the preview of who I just received
email from.

This just started with the 2.20 update.


According to the release notes (which you should see the first time you
launch the browser after an upgrade), there are new notification options
at Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Notifications.

So adjust the settings to what you like.


I don't see a "notifications" line in SM 2.20


I do, between "Message Display" and "Composition." Have you expanded the 
"Mail & Newsgroups" group (click the triangle to the left of the name) 
so you can see all the subgroups?


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Re: SM 2.20 doesn't draw pages Correctly

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Trane Francks wrote:


On 8/9/13 12:40 PM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:



It wouldn't seem to be a bug in SeaMonkey. You were forcing a larger
font than the website's CSS dictated. As such, you were not rendering
the page in the manner the developer intended. In my opinion, this isn't
a bug at all; it was a settings problem.


I'd count it as a webmaster's design problem. When they lay out their
pages so you have to choose between microprint that you can't read and
print that's large enough to see but doesn't fit in their fixed-size
box, that's their fault, not the user's.


If the font size is unreadable unless forced, yes. I did, however, check
the site in question with my settings (min. @ 9) and it displayed just
fine. As I recall, the OP had a min font of 14 defined, which is pretty
farkin' big.

YMMV, IMO and all that. :)


Yep. I have a 14 point minimum myself, despite corrective lenses.

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Re: Email preview notifier - I want it off.

[Mr. Cheese]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

prenard2...@gmail.com wrote:


I dont want a bubble at the bottom right of the screen to open and
show me what just came in email. The chime is enough, I dont need
people standing next to me to read the preview of who I just received
email from.

This just started with the 2.20 update.


According to the release notes (which you should see the first time you
launch the browser after an upgrade), there are new notification options
at Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Notifications.

So adjust the settings to what you like.


I don't see a "notifications" line in SM 2.20
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

David E. Ross  wrote:
> On 8/9/13 2:00 AM, Rob wrote:
>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>> 
>> I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
>> I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
>> when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
>> quoted mail.
>> 
>
> The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies
> and forwards.

No, this does not happen.
I also don't see a UI to control this.
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Re: how to control signature display

[David E. Ross]

On 8/9/13 2:00 AM, Rob wrote:
> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
> 
> I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
> I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
> when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
> quoted mail.
> 

The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies
and forwards.


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Re: Bug 147474 - Move 'Helper Applications' out of Navigator (browser) category

[David E. Ross]

On 8/9/13 5:14 AM, Jim Taylor wrote [in part]:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm soliciting some feedback on this bug[1].
>>
>> Where should "Helper Applications" be if it isn't good to be
>> in the Advanced category?  The patch moves it from the Browser
>> category to the Advanced category.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>> [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147474
> 
> 
> One of the things you hear the most complaints about is developers 
> "wasting" their time on UI changes that don't need done instead of 
> fixing real problems.
> 

This is very true.  Change merely for the sake of change leads to user
confusion.

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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Rob  wrote:
> Hartmut Figge  wrote:
>> Daniel:
>>>Rob wrote:
>>
 I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
 noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
 (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
 has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>>>
>>>Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in 
>>>text msg, as I use.
>>
>> I am using since a long time
>>
>> - userContent.css -
>> .moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature {  background-color: #f0f0f0; }
>> ---
>>
>> Can be used to play with. :)
>
> Do you happen to know what the CSS attribute is that controls this
> "dim" display?  It of course is not the background color.

Ok by looking in omni.ja I already found that it is caused by a
style item "opacity: 0.5" that has been added.  Unlikely that it
can be controlled via a pref.

I could override it with a userContent.css containing:

/* : signature : */

.moz-txt-sig,
.moz-signature {
  opacity: 1.0 !important;
}

this works, but of course it has to be done per profile.

Is there some way of putting that file in the program installation directory
and have it effective for all users?
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Hartmut Figge  wrote:
> Daniel:
>>Rob wrote:
>
>>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>>
>>Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in 
>>text msg, as I use.
>
> I am using since a long time
>
> - userContent.css -
> .moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature {  background-color: #f0f0f0; }
> ---
>
> Can be used to play with. :)

Do you happen to know what the CSS attribute is that controls this
"dim" display?  It of course is not the background color.

>>Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.
>
> I like View->Message Body As->Plain Text. Was there ever a sig? Don't
> remember.

I am trying to provide mail service in a company where normal
employees work and they like to use HTML mail.  I am not going to
get that changed.  They also top-reply.  It is the standard these
days.

(in fact the company already decided to migrate to Outlook, as that
is the standard in business.  Until then I upgrade Seamonkey only
when it fixes serious problems and does not at the same time introduce
new fatal flaws or annoyances.  that has been very difficult lately)
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Daniel  wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>
> Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in 
> text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.

That is what I wrote.

>> I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
>> I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
>> when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
>> quoted mail.
>
> I looked at about:config and entered "sig" in the filter line and, like 
> you, could see nothing that might fix your situation.

I know about that method and I know that it unfortunately does not
return all available prefs.  There are hidden prefs.  That is why I
asked for a hidden pref.

> However, I did see a about:config entry for 
> mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator. Maybe if you try 
> changing this to see if it allows what you want.

It does something related to this matter but not what I need.

> :-)  ;-) Or you'll just have to train your work colleagues to *always* 
> reply below the quoted text (Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings and 
> select "Composition & Addressing" for the Mail account and then 
> "Automatically quote" and, from the drop-down, "start my reply below 
> ..."!) ;-) ;-)

I am not trying to change how the world mails.
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Re: how to control signature display

[Rob]

Trane Francks  wrote:
> On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote:
>> Rob wrote:
>>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>>
>> Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in
>> text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.
>
> That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs 
> displayed with the same "intensity" as normal text.

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Re: SM H.264 compatibility

[Desiree]

On 8/8/2013 3:05 AM, Daniel wrote:

I just went to a couple of vimeo.com pages, http://vimeo.com/70757445
and http://vimeo.com/70518741, and was told that ...

This video can't be played with your current setup.
Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install
Adobe Flash Player.
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I thought SM was H.264 compliant, or, am I mistaken and its being worked
on??

It's WebM compliant like Fx. Not H.264 which IE.  That video plays in 
Flash and it irritates me that SM will not honor my Plugin settings 
whenever I update it. I had Flash disabled. The upgrade to SM 2.20 
enabled Flash without my permission.  Once I disabled Flash again, that 
video would not play. Evidently, it is not an HTML5 video.

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Re: how to control signature display

[Trane Francks]

On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote:

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)


Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in
text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.


That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs 
displayed with the same "intensity" as normal text.


Cheers,

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Re: Bug 147474 - Move 'Helper Applications' out of Navigator (browser) category

[Jim Taylor]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I'm soliciting some feedback on this bug[1].

Where should "Helper Applications" be if it isn't good to be
in the Advanced category?  The patch moves it from the Browser
category to the Advanced category.

Thanks

Edmund

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147474


I don't think it should be hidden under Advanced.  Either give it its 
own category or leave it where it is.  It has been under browser for 
years and people know where to find it.  I understand that technically 
it applies to mail and news and not just browser, but how many people 
have complained that they couldn't find it (any?)? And how many will 
complain when it is moved and they can't find it and think it has been 
removed?


One of the things you hear the most complaints about is developers 
"wasting" their time on UI changes that don't need done instead of 
fixing real problems.


No matter where you put it (other than giving it its own category) 
some/many people won't like it.  On the other hand if you just leave 
it where it is I doubt anyone would complain.


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Re: how to control signature display

[Hartmut Figge]

Daniel:
>Rob wrote:

>> I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
>> noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
>> (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
>> has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
>
>Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in 
>text msg, as I use.

I am using since a long time

- userContent.css -
.moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature {  background-color: #f0f0f0; }
---

Can be used to play with. :)

>Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.

I like View->Message Body As->Plain Text. Was there ever a sig? Don't
remember.

Hartmut
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Re: how to control signature display

[Daniel]

Rob wrote:

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)


Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown "dim", at least in 
text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.



I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.


I looked at about:config and entered "sig" in the filter line and, like 
you, could see nothing that might fix your situation.


However, I did see a about:config entry for 
mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator. Maybe if you try 
changing this to see if it allows what you want.


:-)  ;-) Or you'll just have to train your work colleagues to *always* 
reply below the quoted text (Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings and 
select "Composition & Addressing" for the Mail account and then 
"Automatically quote" and, from the drop-down, "start my reply below 
..."!) ;-) ;-)


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Re: SM H.264 compatibility

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:


I just went to a couple of vimeo.com pages, http://vimeo.com/70757445
and http://vimeo.com/70518741, and was told that ...

This video can't be played with your current setup.
Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install
Adobe Flash Player.
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Same here with SM 2.23a1, if i disable Flash.


I thought SM was H.264 compliant, or, am I mistaken and its being worked
on??


The missing FF in your and mine UA? Don't remember at the moment, how to
enable this.

Hartmut


Prefs->Advanced->HTTP Networking ... Advertise FF

I'll re-boot and report back


Now got it enabled, but still getting warning about H.264 compatibility.

Is this because I'm on SM 2.20b2, rather than b3 as Phillip Jones 
mentions *or* because I don't have a "suitable codec" as mentioned by 
Phillip Chee?


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Re: SM H.264 compatibility

[Daniel]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:


I just went to a couple of vimeo.com pages, http://vimeo.com/70757445
and http://vimeo.com/70518741, and was told that ...

This video can't be played with your current setup.
Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install
Adobe Flash Player.
__


Same here with SM 2.23a1, if i disable Flash.


I thought SM was H.264 compliant, or, am I mistaken and its being worked
on??


The missing FF in your and mine UA? Don't remember at the moment, how to
enable this.

Hartmut


Prefs->Advanced->HTTP Networking ... Advertise FF

I'll re-boot and report back

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Re: SM H.264 compatibility

[Daniel]

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

I just went to a couple of vimeo.com pages, http://vimeo.com/70757445
and http://vimeo.com/70518741, and was told that ...

This video can't be played with your current setup.
Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install
Adobe Flash Player.
__

I thought SM was H.264 compliant, or, am I mistaken and its being worked
on??


In SM 2.20 b3 both work perfect


Something must be wrong if it works in Mac but not in Linux!! ;-p Just 
joking, Phillip!


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Re: Windows 7 --> Windows 8: Cannot use profile

[Daniel]

Mike Doroshenko II wrote:

On 08/08/2013 06:06 AM, Daniel wrote:

mi...@tecknoquest.com wrote:

I just installed Windows 8 on a separate partition on my laptop and
copied
my profile over and get an error.

Do I have to do something else to transfer the profile over?

Once I have it working in Windows 8 and delete the profile from my
Windows 7 partition (need free space) can I have Windows 7 use the

>>> profile stored in the Windows 8 partition (or could I have it
>>> stored on my Data/Files partition)?


And the error message is .??

Mike, I'm going to guess that it mentions something about the profile
being "Read Only" and suggest you have a look at where your profile is
located. Go to Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, and select
"Sever Settings" for your Mail account. At the bottom of that screen,
you should see "Local directory".

Part of that should have something like "fgnvbfbg.default" (random
numbers and letters followed by default). Copy and cut or write on
paper or remember this part of the address. Close SeaMonkey, and in
Windows Explorer, go to this address, right click on the folder,
select "Properties", de-select "Read Only" and then select "Apply to
all files and sub-folders" or whatever the wording is and click apply.

If your W7 install of SeaMonkey can "see" the W8 profile, in Windows
Explorer, then, in w7 SM, Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage
Profiles->Create Profile then, on the screen after next, enter a
profile name ("Win8 SM", maybe) and on the same screen "Choose Folder"
and point to the "fgnvbfbg.default" folder and then o.k. your way out.

Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8 SM
profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the
moved profile, so you don't lose anything. Ask back here when you get
to this stage.

HTH!


>> And the error message is .??
> Sorry about that, I sent a screenshot as an attachment but it seems
> it got stripped away. It said "Your SeaMonkey profile cannot be
> loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.

For future reference, Mike, attachments are not accepted on these 
"support" newsgroups. There used to be one specifically set up for 
images, but I don't think it is still in operation, so people have to do 
what you did and post the image somewhere else and include a link.


> I checked the File System permissions and it still happened. I
> created a new profile and my email probably had to be redownloaded,
> it would be nice if I didn't have to do that...

Sorry, what do you mean by "... and it still happened"?

> I had better luck with ThunderBird.

Generally, if you can do something in TB, you can do it in SM.

> When you create a profile, it let's you import an existing one?

Didn't I say, on the screen where you name the new profile, you can 
point it to the location of the old profile??


>> Mike, if you have sent or received any e-mails in the original Win8
>> SM profile, you will then need to combine that profile with/into the
>> moved profile, so you don't lose anything.
>
> Wouldn't the emails be there since they would be part of the shared
> profile?
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/szg395/5

Mike, didn't you, at one stage, have a new SM profile in Win8 and the 
old SM profile in your Win7? When you moved/copied your Win7 SM profile 
over to Win8, you should have had two SM profiles on Win8 and, still, 
the Win7 SM profile original.


Or hadn't you actually created a Win8 SM "Mail & Newsgroup" profile, 
just having made the Win8 SM browser function!!


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how to control signature display

[Rob]

I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed "dim" in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)

I see no UI to control this.  Is there a hidden preference for it?
I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially
when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a
quoted mail.
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