date:20130813

Great explanation. Thanks again...
Now I've learned TWO things today.  Makes up for yesterday!  Hahahah.

keith


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:

> On 8/14/13 8:39 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:
>
>  Example: I haven't a clue what 'modal status updates' are, let alone
>> NON-modal ones! That's for folks who learned about how to understand and
>> manipulate computers in class ~ what to call things, so others could
>> follow
>> along.
>>
>
> In programming-speak, a modal object is one that demands your attention
> before you can get on working with other things. An example of that would
> be a modal dialogue box that pops up to inform you of an error and you must
> click on OK before you can continue working. A bad example of that would be
> a modal dialogue box that pops up to inform you of a success, such as being
> able to save a photo. (I have an otherwise great iPhone app that does that
> and it really annoys me.)
>
> So, that's the long story. The short story is that something non-modal can
> be ignored without affecting work flow. Something modal must be addressed
> before anything further can be done. :)
>
>
>  I bought my first-of-many Macs in 1986, and have ever since stumbled
>> along,
>> learning as I go. When I trip, I give a shout to the list, and some kind
>> soul helps out.
>>
>> Many thanks for being a support person when I needed one.
>>
>
> The pleasure is mine.
>
>
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Re: Printing password list

2013-08-13 Thread Zeb Carter


David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:22 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

   Password Exporter 1.2.1
by Justin Scott (fligtar)

This extension allows you to export your saved passwords and disabled login 
hosts using XML
or CSV files that can be imported later.

Add to SeaMonkey
Not available for SeaMonkey 2.20
===

how can I get this to be downloaded and installed ?



1.  At
,
place your cursor over the gray "Add to SeaMonkey" button, right-click,
and select "Save Link Target As" from the pull-down context menu.

2.  On the "Enter name of file to save to" window, navigate to where you
want to save the file.  Then, click on the Save button.

3.  Open the file password_exporter-1.2.1-fx+tb+sm.xpi in a ZIP
application (e.g., Winzip).

4.  Depending on the ZIP application, open the install.rdf file in a
plain-text editor WITHOUT unzipping the XPI file.

5.  Near the bottom of the install.rdf file, under the line that is

change the line
2.1b1
to be
2.20

6.  Use the Save capability of the editor.

7.  Close the ZIP application.  If it asks about saving install.rdf, the
answer is "yes".

The extension can then be installed from the local XPI file on your PC.


I had to do this when trying to install it to a recent version of Firefox.
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On 8/14/13 8:39 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:


Example: I haven't a clue what 'modal status updates' are, let alone
NON-modal ones! That's for folks who learned about how to understand and
manipulate computers in class ~ what to call things, so others could follow
along.


In programming-speak, a modal object is one that demands your attention 
before you can get on working with other things. An example of that 
would be a modal dialogue box that pops up to inform you of an error and 
you must click on OK before you can continue working. A bad example of 
that would be a modal dialogue box that pops up to inform you of a 
success, such as being able to save a photo. (I have an otherwise great 
iPhone app that does that and it really annoys me.)


So, that's the long story. The short story is that something non-modal 
can be ignored without affecting work flow. Something modal must be 
addressed before anything further can be done. :)



I bought my first-of-many Macs in 1986, and have ever since stumbled along,
learning as I go. When I trip, I give a shout to the list, and some kind
soul helps out.

Many thanks for being a support person when I needed one.


The pleasure is mine.

trane
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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

I guess my major problem was, I've learned pretty much what everything was
and what it did, without knowing what it was called. IOW, I really didn't
need to know what it's name, so long as I could work with it.
Example: I haven't a clue what 'modal status updates' are, let alone
NON-modal ones! That's for folks who learned about how to understand and
manipulate computers in class ~ what to call things, so others could follow
along.

I bought my first-of-many Macs in 1986, and have ever since stumbled along,
learning as I go. When I trip, I give a shout to the list, and some kind
soul helps out.

Many thanks for being a support person when I needed one.

keith whaley

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:

> On 8/14/13 7:58 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:
>
>> Excellent response. This time I found it, of course... Thanks.
>>
>> Poor choice of names, IMMHO.
>>
>> I appreciate your post.
>>
>
> Glad to be of service, Keith. I'm glad you've got it figured out now.
>
> As for the name being poor, I don't think so. "Status bar" has
> historically been that term and used for said purpose in windowed,
> graphical user interfaces for going on 30 years now. It is traditionally
> used to give non-modal status updates on the state/function of the program.
> It's not unique to Mozilla and the organization's use and placement of the
> bar is consistent with user experience expectations.
>
> IMO, YMMV and all.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey


On 8/14/13 7:58 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:

Excellent response. This time I found it, of course... Thanks.

Poor choice of names, IMMHO.

I appreciate your post.


Glad to be of service, Keith. I'm glad you've got it figured out now.

As for the name being poor, I don't think so. "Status bar" has 
historically been that term and used for said purpose in windowed, 
graphical user interfaces for going on 30 years now. It is traditionally 
used to give non-modal status updates on the state/function of the 
program. It's not unique to Mozilla and the organization's use and 
placement of the bar is consistent with user experience expectations.


IMO, YMMV and all.

Cheers,

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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

Excellent response. This time I found it, of course... Thanks.

Poor choice of names, IMMHO.

I appreciate your post.

keith whaley




On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:

> On 8/14/13 5:30 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:
>
>> I tried toggling Status Bar back and forth, Show and Hide, and literally
>> nothing changed in the position (or existence) of ANY of my bars!
>>
>
> It's at the bottom of the window, not in a relative location to any of
> your other tool bars at the top of the window. The status bar contains
> things such as app-window icons (browser, mail, Composer, address book and
> ChatZilla) and displays things such as URLs when you over over a link with
> your mouse cursor.
>
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Re: [solved in nightly] problems displaying accented characters in email


Ray_Net wrote, On 2013-08-13 23:29:



Ray, if you want to give it a try, nightly alpha builds can
be downloaded from:




I will give it a try when windows SM 2.21 will become officially released.


Your choice of course, but the test can be very quick and painless:

download the zipped win32 build rather than the installer, unzip in a
temporary directory and just run the seamonkey.exe thereunder
(make sure your regular SM is not running simultaneously).
Ignore possible messages about incompatible extensions and
check the messages that gave you problems.
Once done, you can simply delete your temporary directory
and resume using your regular seamonkey.

Since this is alpha SW, there is a (very) slight chance it may kill
your pets or mess up you profile, but neither happened to me (phew!)
You may prefer to wait for at the 1st beta 21b1 or full release.

Bernard

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Re: cnn news video ?


On 8/14/13 1:19 AM +0900, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)

Worked fine for me with Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; 
rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 and Shockwave Flash 
11.8.800.94.


Sweet video, too.
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On 8/14/13 5:30 AM +0900, keith_w wrote:

I tried toggling Status Bar back and forth, Show and Hide, and literally
nothing changed in the position (or existence) of ANY of my bars!


It's at the bottom of the window, not in a relative location to any of 
your other tool bars at the top of the window. The status bar contains 
things such as app-window icons (browser, mail, Composer, address book 
and ChatZilla) and displays things such as URLs when you over over a 
link with your mouse cursor.


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Re: Missing An Add-On?


On 8/14/13 12:42 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Works fine here in SM 2.20. Doesn't seem to use Flash, so that's not it...


Using 2.20 here, too. Also fine.

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Re: [solved in nightly] problems displaying accented characters in email

2013-08-13 Thread Ray_Net


Bernard Delmée wrote, On 13/08/2013 19:47:

Hartmut Figge wrote, On 2013-08-13 17:51:

Ray_Net:


I have a similar problem with accentuated characters showing wrong with
SM 2.17 an going well with SM 2.8.
I am now using the SM 2.8 on an old pc, because i don't have now my
current pc available. So i follow your instructions with SM 2.8 which
did not exhibit the problem, but i am sure that if i put HMTL2 into my
current pc SM2.17, it will show the problem.
Here is in attachment the expected HTML2 file.


Why such a large mail, hm? ;) Here is what i see on my SM 2.23a1 with
View->Message Body As->Original HTML:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm130813.png

Now, if the characters are wrong or right, i have no clue. But you will
know, surely. :)

Hartmut



TADA! Hartmut, seeing your user-agent and mention of 2.23a,
I thought I'd give nightlies a try and lo and behold:
all is well with 2.21a already. I tested that one on windows
where to my surprise even lightning seemed to keep working,
and tried 2.23a on linux i386 with equally good results.
So perhaps it was the same bug marked as fixed for thunderbird;
it'll just take a little more time to percolate to a semonkey
release but is indeed gone. Good news!

Ray, if you want to give it a try, nightly alpha builds can
be downloaded from:





I will give it a try when windows SM 2.21 will become officially released.
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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

2013-08-13 Thread Ray_Net


Hartmut Figge wrote, On 13/08/2013 17:51:

Ray_Net:


I have a similar problem with accentuated characters showing wrong with
SM 2.17 an going well with SM 2.8.
I am now using the SM 2.8 on an old pc, because i don't have now my
current pc available. So i follow your instructions with SM 2.8 which
did not exhibit the problem, but i am sure that if i put HMTL2 into my
current pc SM2.17, it will show the problem.
Here is in attachment the expected HTML2 file.


Why such a large mail, hm? ;) Here is what i see on my SM 2.23a1 with
View->Message Body As->Original HTML:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm130813.png

Now, if the characters are wrong or right, i have no clue. But you will
know, surely. :)

Hartmut


This is correctly displayed.
I have to mention that i got wrong characters in SM 2.17 when the 
default charset for display is "iso-8859-1" and not "utf-8".

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Re: Seamonkey & Email


houstonfamily...@gmail.com wrote:


In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a
notification window that shows up in the lower right portion of the
screen. How do I make that go away?  I don't really care how many
new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Notifications

Set the options as you think best.

This was mentioned in the release notes, which should have been 
displayed the first time you launched the browser after the upgrade.


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Re: Printing password list

2013-08-13 Thread David E. Ross

On 8/13/13 9:22 AM, rjkrjk wrote:
>   Password Exporter 1.2.1
> by Justin Scott (fligtar)
> 
> This extension allows you to export your saved passwords and disabled login 
> hosts using XML 
> or CSV files that can be imported later.
> 
> Add to SeaMonkey
> Not available for SeaMonkey 2.20
> ===
> 
> how can I get this to be downloaded and installed ?
> 

1.  At
,
place your cursor over the gray "Add to SeaMonkey" button, right-click,
and select "Save Link Target As" from the pull-down context menu.

2.  On the "Enter name of file to save to" window, navigate to where you
want to save the file.  Then, click on the Save button.

3.  Open the file password_exporter-1.2.1-fx+tb+sm.xpi in a ZIP
application (e.g., Winzip).

4.  Depending on the ZIP application, open the install.rdf file in a
plain-text editor WITHOUT unzipping the XPI file.

5.  Near the bottom of the install.rdf file, under the line that is

change the line
2.1b1
to be
2.20

6.  Use the Save capability of the editor.

7.  Close the ZIP application.  If it asks about saving install.rdf, the
answer is "yes".

The extension can then be installed from the local XPI file on your PC.

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snooping into your E-mail?  Use PGP.
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Seamonkey & Email

2013-08-13 Thread houstonfamilylaw

In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a notification 
window that shows up in the lower right portion of the screen.  How do I make 
that go away?  I don't really care how many new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.

Thanks.

Tom S.
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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

I tried toggling Status Bar back and forth, Show and Hide, and literally
nothing changed in the position (or existence) of ANY of my bars!

keith whaley


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Paul B. Gallagher <
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com> wrote:

> keith_w wrote:
>
>  Lacking an owner's manual for SeaMonkay, I must ask:
>>
>> Which is the status bar?
>>
>
> If you follow the directions in the earlier post:
>
>
>  For your status bar View->Show/Hide and select Status Bar!
>>>
>>
> you can toggle it on and off. When you see what appears and disappears,
> you'll know what it is.
>
> But it's at the bottom, not the top. The thing at the top with the Windows
> control buttons is the "title bar."
>
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[solved in nightly] problems displaying accented characters in email


Hartmut Figge wrote, On 2013-08-13 17:51:

Ray_Net:


I have a similar problem with accentuated characters showing wrong with
SM 2.17 an going well with SM 2.8.
I am now using the SM 2.8 on an old pc, because i don't have now my
current pc available. So i follow your instructions with SM 2.8 which
did not exhibit the problem, but i am sure that if i put HMTL2 into my
current pc SM2.17, it will show the problem.
Here is in attachment the expected HTML2 file.


Why such a large mail, hm? ;) Here is what i see on my SM 2.23a1 with
View->Message Body As->Original HTML:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm130813.png

Now, if the characters are wrong or right, i have no clue. But you will
know, surely. :)

Hartmut



TADA! Hartmut, seeing your user-agent and mention of 2.23a,
I thought I'd give nightlies a try and lo and behold:
all is well with 2.21a already. I tested that one on windows
where to my surprise even lightning seemed to keep working,
and tried 2.23a on linux i386 with equally good results.
So perhaps it was the same bug marked as fixed for thunderbird;
it'll just take a little more time to percolate to a semonkey
release but is indeed gone. Good news!

Ray, if you want to give it a try, nightly alpha builds can
be downloaded from:



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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey


keith_w wrote:


Lacking an owner's manual for SeaMonkay, I must ask:

Which is the status bar?


If you follow the directions in the earlier post:


For your status bar View->Show/Hide and select Status Bar!


you can toggle it on and off. When you see what appears and disappears, 
you'll know what it is.


But it's at the bottom, not the top. The thing at the top with the 
Windows control buttons is the "title bar."


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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

Lacking an owner's manual for SeaMonkay, I must ask:

Which is the status bar?

On the SM 2.20 Browser Webmail window, I ASSUME I have, from the top:

• Navigation Toolbar
• Bookmarks Toolbar
• Website Navigation Bar
• Tab Bar
• [a black background bar, starting with Search, Images, Mail etc.]
• [a bar that starts with the DSLE emblem, then has a strip for data entry,
then a
  magnifying glass.] Is this a search bar?  Then,
 • [a bar with icons for: Mail, Archive, Report Spam, Delete, etc...]

Sorry for the guesses. I know of no SM site that lists what each window's
elements are called.

Thanks,   keith whaley

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Daniel  wrote:

> Joseph Zsigray wrote:
>
>> The Status Bar is hidden when I boot Sea Monkey along with the minimize/
>> maximize buttons to the right... What do I do?
>>
>
> For your status bar View->Show/Hide and select Status Bar!
>
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>
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405
>
> or
>
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101
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Re: cnn news video ?


rjkrjk wrote:





SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)


WFM
SM 2.20, Win7ProSP1
Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.94, Shockwave for Director 12.0.3.133

That Robin Meade, she's a looker, thanks!

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Re: cnn news video ?

2013-08-13 Thread Upscope

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:19:58 PM rjkrjk wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-n
> avy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
> 
> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
> 
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Re: Printing password list

2013-08-13 Thread rjkrjk

Password Exporter 1.2.1
by Justin Scott (fligtar)

This extension allows you to export your saved passwords and disabled login hosts using XML
or CSV files that can be imported later.

Add to SeaMonkey
Not available for SeaMonkey 2.20
===

how can I get this to be downloaded and installed ?

David E. Ross wrote, On 8/13/2013 12:04 PM:

On 8/12/13 8:33 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

What is available for printing the password list? The utility I have
used in the past only works with HTML. The addons I tried said "does
not work with SM". I installed FF23, copied the sqlite files from SM.
That got me the bookmarks and history but not the passwords; password
manager is still empty.

Rather than just randomly try whatever I can find, does anyone know how
to print the list that currently is in SM?

Any yes, I am aware of the security issues.

TY
Ray

1. Install the Password Exporter from
.
(This might have to be tweaked to allow installation with SM 2.20. If
so, let me know.)

2. On the SM menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences] and then [Privacy &
Security > Passwords].

3. On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button.

4. On the Import/Export Passwords window, select the Export Passwords
button.

5. On the Select a File window, at the very bottom, change the "Save as
type" from .xml to .cvs. Navigate to where you want the file saved, and
select the Save button.

6. Close the various windows for Preferences.

7. Use Excel to open the .cvs file. Adjust the column widths. Print.

8. Be sure to erase securely the .cvs file.

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Re: Missing An Add-On?

2013-08-13 Thread BIll Spikowski

Larry S. wrote:
> Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and 
> saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to 
> something), then stops.
> 
> http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039
> 
> I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and 
> help gratefully appreciated.


I access this page daily from several different computers -- and have
been for quite some time. Never a problem, and I haven't added or
disable any plugins.

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cnn news video ?

2013-08-13 Thread rjkrjk


http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)
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Re: Printing password list

2013-08-13 Thread David E. Ross

On 8/12/13 8:33 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
> What is available for printing the password list?  The utility I have 
> used in the past only works with HTML.  The addons I tried said "does 
> not work with SM".  I installed FF23, copied the sqlite files from SM. 
> That got me the bookmarks and history but not the passwords; password 
> manager is still empty.
> 
> Rather than just randomly try whatever I can find, does anyone know how 
> to print the list that currently is in SM?
> 
> Any yes, I am aware of the security issues.
> 
> TY
> Ray
> 

1.  Install the Password Exporter from
.
(This might have to be tweaked to allow installation with SM 2.20.  If
so, let me know.)

2.  On the SM menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences] and then [Privacy &
Security > Passwords].

3.  On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button.

4.  On the Import/Export Passwords window, select the Export Passwords
button.

5.  On the Select a File window, at the very bottom, change the "Save as
type" from .xml to .cvs.  Navigate to where you want the file saved, and
select the Save button.

6.  Close the various windows for Preferences.

7.  Use Excel to open the .cvs file.  Adjust the column widths.  Print.

8.  Be sure to erase securely the .cvs file.

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snooping into your E-mail?  Use PGP.
See my 
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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

2013-08-13 Thread Hartmut Figge

Ray_Net:

>I have a similar problem with accentuated characters showing wrong with 
>SM 2.17 an going well with SM 2.8.
>I am now using the SM 2.8 on an old pc, because i don't have now my 
>current pc available. So i follow your instructions with SM 2.8 which 
>did not exhibit the problem, but i am sure that if i put HMTL2 into my 
>current pc SM2.17, it will show the problem.
>Here is in attachment the expected HTML2 file.

Why such a large mail, hm? ;) Here is what i see on my SM 2.23a1 with
View->Message Body As->Original HTML:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm130813.png

Now, if the characters are wrong or right, i have no clue. But you will
know, surely. :)

Hartmut
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Re: Missing An Add-On?

2013-08-13 Thread A Williams


Larry S. wrote:

Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and
saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to
something), then stops.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039


I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and
help gratefully appreciated.

Larry S.






Works for me.  Looks like the Atlantic S of Long-Island is having a 
serious dose of whatever Yellow+Red mean.


The only Plugin I have is "IcedTea-Web Plugin" which offers Java 
functionality.  I'm running the Linux x64 2.19 (nope - have not upgraded 
to 2.20 yet).  No Flash.

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Re: Missing An Add-On?

2013-08-13 Thread WaltS


On 08/13/2013 11:20 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and
saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to
something), then stops.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039

I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and
help gratefully appreciated.

Larry S.







Works fine in my SeaMonkey.

If I disable JavaScript I see,

"Attention Required

Enable JavaScript
The map requires JavaScript to render, pan, or zoom.

Please enable JavaScript in your browser to begin
using the map."

Thought. Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.


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Re: Missing An Add-On?


Jay Garcia wrote:


On 13.08.2013 10:20, Larry S. wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank
and saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections
to something), then stops.





I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All
ideas and help gratefully appreciated.


Same here in SM 2.19 but works just fine in FF 23.


Works fine here in SM 2.20. Doesn't seem to use Flash, so that's not it...

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Re: Missing An Add-On?

2013-08-13 Thread Jay Garcia

On 13.08.2013 10:20, Larry S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and
> saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to
> something), then stops.
> 
> http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039
> 
> 
> I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and
> help gratefully appreciated.
> 
> Larry S.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Same here in SM 2.19 but works just fine in FF 23.

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Missing An Add-On?

2013-08-13 Thread Larry S.

Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and 
saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to 
something), then stops.


http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039

I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and 
help gratefully appreciated.


Larry S.




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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

2013-08-13 Thread Ray_Net


Hartmut Figge wrote, On 13/08/2013 11:47:

Bernard Delmée:


please find an example below (I am posting from SM14 where the display
problem does not occur, but I've checked under SM20 and the source
revealed by Ctrl-U is strictly identical). I've taken the liberty to
edit some headers to protect the innocent (hopefully)


Delivered-To: joe.u...@mailhost.net

[...]

The ideal way to test a mail is attaching one, a very small one, to a
posting like i have done here. To test the attachment, close SM, copy
the file html3 to the directory where your Inbox resides and start SM.
You should see now a folder with the name html3 in the mail account of
your SM which contains the test mail.

Too much can go wrong when creating the attachment, so please follow the
next instructions carefully.

- You must have a html test mail in the Inbox of your mail account.
- Using SM, create there a new folder with e.g. the name html.
- Using SM, copy the test mail to the new folder html.
- Verify using SM, that the test mail in the new folder shows the
   problem.
- Close SM. Don't open SM again unless told otherwise.
- Create a new folder with e.g. the name html-test on your machine.
- Copy the file html, which represents the folder html created under
   SM, from your profile to html-test.
- Copy the file html to the file html2.
- Edit html2 by removing unnecessary parts and changing private bits.
   You may look into my attachment to see, what can be done.
- Copy html2 to the profile of you SM. To the same directory where
   Inbox and the file html resides.
- Start SM. There should now be a new folder with the name html2.
- Verify with SM, that the test mail in html2 shows the problem.
- Reply to my posting with the attached file html2.

Some may complain, that attachments in a news group are evil. I don't
think so, if they are short and justified by preventing problems.

Hartmut


I have a similar problem with accentuated characters showing wrong with 
SM 2.17 an going well with SM 2.8.
I am now using the SM 2.8 on an old pc, because i don't have now my 
current pc available. So i follow your instructions with SM 2.8 which 
did not exhibit the problem, but i am sure that if i put HMTL2 into my 
current pc SM2.17, it will show the problem.

Here is in attachment the expected HTML2 file.

From - Sun Aug 11 18:58:17 2013
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 21be4aead5d7
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
X-Mozilla-Keys: 

Return-Path: 
Received: from hays.is.scarlet.be (hays.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.223])
by hubbard.is.scarlet.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6SJQH6B011492
Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:26:17 +0200
Received: from dub0-omc1-s17.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc1-s17.dub0.hotmail.com 
[157.55.0.216])
by hays.is.scarlet.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6SJQFB0032646
for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:26:16 +0200
Received: from DUB118-DS19 ([157.55.0.237]) by dub0-omc1-s17.dub0.hotmail.com 
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:26:15 -0700
X-TMN: [SDeATzCVuqlzXRm6GPJKNXbVy6nEaEbI]
X-Originating-Email: [servais.copp...@hotmail.com]
Message-ID: 
From: "Mon Serv Copp" 
To: 
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Une_journ=E9e_=E0_Andenne_le_18-7-2013?=
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:26:15 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_NextPart_000_0047_01CE8BD9.1749A6F0"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2013 19:26:15.0537 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[53C39610:01CE8BC8]
X-DCC-Scarlet-Metrics: hays; whitelist
X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1-exp at hays
X-Virus-Status: Clean

Ce message est composi et au format MIME.

--=_NextPart_000_0047_01CE8BD9.1749A6F0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andenne en g=E9n=E9ral

D'apr=E8s les =E9chos de chez l'une ou l'autre guide, les enfants leur =
ont pos=E9 la question , qu'aller vous voir =E0 Andenne
Bien que l'annonce dans le contact =E0 l'invitation =E0 cete journ=E9e, =
nous en donnait un apercu d=E9j=E0 tr=E8s bien expliqu=E9 et qui s'est =
r=E9v=E9l=E9 bien exact.
A notre grande surprise, nous avons d=E9couvert un mus=E9e m=E9lange =
d'art.. ancien  contemporain et Art D=E9co.
A l'entr=E9e un guide tr=E8s int=E9ressant nous accompagnait, il nous a =
fait vivre et visiter tout l'=E9tablissement de l'=E9poque du VI =E8me =
si=E8cle =E0 nos jours.
Ce mus=E9e de la c=E9ramique situ=E9 dans le coeur historique d'Andenne, =
vous invite =E0 revivre l'histoire passionante de la terre plastique et =
de ses produits de ses origines jusqu'=E0 nos jours, gr=E2ce =E0 une  =
sc=E9nographie ludique et didactique, compos=E9e de maquettes de plans =
de reconstitution grandeur nature  le visiteur d=E9couvre tous les =
as

Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

2013-08-13 Thread WaltS


On 08/13/2013 07:31 AM, Joseph Zsigray wrote:

The Status Bar is hidden when I boot Sea Monkey along with the minimize/
maximize buttons to the right... What do I do?




Sounds like you might be in Full Screen mode. Press the F11 function key.

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Re: Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

2013-08-13 Thread Daniel


Joseph Zsigray wrote:

The Status Bar is hidden when I boot Sea Monkey along with the minimize/
maximize buttons to the right... What do I do?


For your status bar View->Show/Hide and select Status Bar!

--
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044

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short cut keys in pop-up windows

2013-08-13 Thread Rick Merrill


In the pop-up window for control of cookies
the shortcut keys do not always work - why is that?

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Re: Why can't I change Deleted folder name to Trash !

2013-08-13 Thread Richard Owlett


John B wrote:

I would like to rename to deleted folder to Trash, it's proper name but this 
seems impossible to do .

Why can't I change Deleted folder name to Trash !



'Cause it already exists as a subfolder of every top level folder ;/



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Why can't I change Deleted folder name to Trash !

2013-08-13 Thread John B

I would like to rename to deleted folder to Trash, it's proper name but this 
seems impossible to do . 

Why can't I change Deleted folder name to Trash !
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Status Bar hidden at the top of Sea Monkey

2013-08-13 Thread Joseph Zsigray

The Status Bar is hidden when I boot Sea Monkey along with the minimize/
maximize buttons to the right... What do I do?
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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions


Hartmut Figge wrote, On 2013-08-13 11:47:

Bernard Delmée:


please find an example below (I am posting from SM14 where the display
problem does not occur, but I've checked under SM20 and the source
revealed by Ctrl-U is strictly identical). I've taken the liberty to
edit some headers to protect the innocent (hopefully)


Delivered-To: joe.u...@mailhost.net

[...]

The ideal way to test a mail is attaching one, a very small one, to a
posting like i have done here. To test the attachment, close SM, copy
the file html3 to the directory where your Inbox resides and start SM.
You should see now a folder with the name html3 in the mail account of
your SM which contains the test mail.

Too much can go wrong when creating the attachment, so please follow the
next instructions carefully.

- You must have a html test mail in the Inbox of your mail account.
- Using SM, create there a new folder with e.g. the name html.
- Using SM, copy the test mail to the new folder html.
- Verify using SM, that the test mail in the new folder shows the
   problem.
- Close SM. Don't open SM again unless told otherwise.
- Create a new folder with e.g. the name html-test on your machine.
- Copy the file html, which represents the folder html created under
   SM, from your profile to html-test.
- Copy the file html to the file html2.
- Edit html2 by removing unnecessary parts and changing private bits.
   You may look into my attachment to see, what can be done.
- Copy html2 to the profile of you SM. To the same directory where
   Inbox and the file html resides.
- Start SM. There should now be a new folder with the name html2.
- Verify with SM, that the test mail in html2 shows the problem.
- Reply to my posting with the attached file html2.

Some may complain, that attachments in a news group are evil. I don't
think so, if they are short and justified by preventing problems.

Hartmut



Hartmut, your test attachment looks good to me.

It appears my problems are mostly (always?) for messages coming from
users of the same enterprise setup (WinXP, Outlook/Exchange)
Not all such messages are affected, and i have also had cases where
Outlook going directly through pop/smtp (not MS-Exchange) works fine.
I suspect the problem might be with messages composed in RTF
then converted to HTML for external recipients, but cannot be sure.
These messages I feel should not be shared. I have included an edited
example previously, but doctoring the messages takes time and makes for
less than satisfactory examples anyway. I have a contact to whom I
could ask for a couple test messages, but he's currently on leave
so this will have to wait.

The fact remains that the very same messages, within the same SM profile
display fine under SM14, but not under SM17 nor SM20 (unless I switch
to  simple html). For reminders, TB10, TB16 or TB17esr also work.

I'd be perfectly happy to stick to SM14, but it is not getting security
updates nor is it compatible with current versions of lightning.

Thanks for your interest,

Bernard

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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions

2013-08-13 Thread Hartmut Figge

Bernard Delmée:

>please find an example below (I am posting from SM14 where the display
>problem does not occur, but I've checked under SM20 and the source
>revealed by Ctrl-U is strictly identical). I've taken the liberty to
>edit some headers to protect the innocent (hopefully)
>
>
>Delivered-To: joe.u...@mailhost.net
[...]

The ideal way to test a mail is attaching one, a very small one, to a
posting like i have done here. To test the attachment, close SM, copy
the file html3 to the directory where your Inbox resides and start SM.
You should see now a folder with the name html3 in the mail account of
your SM which contains the test mail.

Too much can go wrong when creating the attachment, so please follow the
next instructions carefully.

- You must have a html test mail in the Inbox of your mail account.
- Using SM, create there a new folder with e.g. the name html.
- Using SM, copy the test mail to the new folder html.
- Verify using SM, that the test mail in the new folder shows the
  problem.
- Close SM. Don't open SM again unless told otherwise.
- Create a new folder with e.g. the name html-test on your machine.
- Copy the file html, which represents the folder html created under
  SM, from your profile to html-test.
- Copy the file html to the file html2.
- Edit html2 by removing unnecessary parts and changing private bits.
  You may look into my attachment to see, what can be done.
- Copy html2 to the profile of you SM. To the same directory where
  Inbox and the file html resides.
- Start SM. There should now be a new folder with the name html2.
- Verify with SM, that the test mail in html2 shows the problem.
- Reply to my posting with the attached file html2.

Some may complain, that attachments in a news group are evil. I don't
think so, if they are short and justified by preventing problems.

Hartmut
>From - Tue Aug 13 10:57:51 2013
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:55:20 +0200
From: Hartmut Figge 
Organization: O:-)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:26.0) Gecko/2013081300 
SeaMonkey/2.23a1-h
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Hartmut Figge 
Subject: html-test
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="070308040400030505040608"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--070308040400030505040608
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=E4 =3D ae
=F6 =3D oe
=FC =3D ue

Hartmut

--070308040400030505040608
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


  

  
  
 ä = ae
 ö = oe
 ü = ue

Hartmut
  


--070308040400030505040608--
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Re: Bug 507841 - Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup)

2013-08-13 Thread Neil


Edmund Wong wrote:

I like our current account configuration and wizard.  Of course, it 
can be improved upon; but, does it mean it should be rewritten?  If 
so, what would/should it look like?  If not, does this mean we should 
WONTFIX this?


There are some incremental improvements we could make, such as 
supporting the SSL options, looking up autoconfiguration information, 
suggesting frequently-used host names and verifying the presence of a 
server with the configured settings.


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Re: problems displaying accented characters in mail with recent SM versions