Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[Daniel]

On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM or have it go there
automatically ?

I went to the Add-Ons for SM, but all I saw was some thing about "Adobe
Dynamic Tag Managment (DTM)" at Mozilla.org

Not enough into jargon and the programming of SM to understand this
stuff.

Can someone enlighten me on this subject ?


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and open it from there. With
Adobe Reader installed, Windows will already know how to handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey. Right-click the filename in the
attachment pane and choose "Open." If as you say SeaMonkey doesn't know
how to handle PDFs, it will ask for instructions. When you choose Adobe
Reader, check the box telling SM to do this every time it encounters a
PDF and you'll be fine from then on.

Paul, would another (a third) possibility for Doctor Bill be to select 
Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and there select what he 
wants to open his PDF attachments in the Browser screen??


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Re: Unsubscribe due to too many e-mails

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 27/11/2015 19:38:

George wrote:

Gentlemen,

Since I signed up for the site I am receiving many e-mails each day from
people I do not know.

Please let me know how I can unsubscribe in order to prevent all the
e-mails.

Thanking you in advance.

George Achilles

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Stop putting your correct email address in your posts.  You can set up
a newsgroup account using a fake email address.


He did not post in a newsgroup, he post thru
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org  SO he need to furnish his real
address; NO ?


Then spammers are harvesting email addresses from there and he should 
start using newsgroups instead, with a fake email address.


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Re: Unsubscribe due to too many e-mails

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 27/11/2015 19:38:

George wrote:

Gentlemen,

Since I signed up for the site I am receiving many e-mails each day
from
people I do not know.

Please let me know how I can unsubscribe in order to prevent all the
e-mails.

Thanking you in advance.

George Achilles

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Stop putting your correct email address in your posts.  You can set up
a newsgroup account using a fake email address.


He did not post in a newsgroup, he post thru
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org  SO he need to furnish his real
address; NO ?


But the point is that he need not go through the list. He can subscribe
to the newsgroup as you and I have done and munge his address to defeat
the spambots.

But now that they've got his address, he can look forward to a steady
stream of spam as they sell it to each other.

One can report spammers to an antispam organization and get most of them 
shut down.


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Re: buttons are painted!

[WaltS48]

On 11/28/2015 11:38 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

On 11/28/2015 11:30 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:36 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sm2.39, win 10 (from win 8), Dell 5000, long time user of seamonkey...

When I first launch Sm the windows appear but the icons of buttons
do not appear until I mouse over them!  What's up with that?

TIA,

Rick


Gremlins! It could also be an extension or theme problem.

Do you use a theme other than the default?

Does the same problem occur in safe mode?



I use "classic" view and "default" theme and extensions are Chatzilla
and DOM Inspector.

Probably residue from Win 8!-)

I never use safe mode :-(



Enabling "Modern" seems to solve the problem!  Thanks.




Interesting. Glad you found a solution that works for you.

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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Ed Mullen]

David E. Ross wrote on 11/28/2015 1:10 PM:

On 11/28/2015 9:24 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB



Many others claim Flash is indeed dangerous in that it allows malware
access to your computer.  Since security vulnerabilities in Flash are
not found as frequently as such vulnerabilities in various versions of
Windows, I do not worry about that.

However, I often find Flash to be annoying.  While I have Flash
installed, I also have the Flashblock extension installed and enabled.
For SeaMonkey, get Flashblock 1.3.20 (NOT 1.5.17) from
.



You don't really need Flashblock anymore.  Just set to "Always ask" in 
the add-ons manager.



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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Ed Mullen]

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 1:12 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/


Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension
specifically designed to force You Tube to deliver
videos using Flash rather than HTML5.

If you need the Flash Player/plugin go
download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.



OKI read about that, but don't understand Flash from HTML5 (or a
hole in the ground!).

I just ran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0BjFl-a1Y and right clicked
it.
A menu says 'about HTML5 player' at the bottom.
So I have an HTML5 resident player ?
Where did THAT come from !?



The HTML5 spec includes playing videos natively, no plugins/extensions 
needed.  So, any browser that supports HTML5 will handle it.



I get many web sites that have a big brown (?) square and a message that
says I need to download a player.  Of course I don't click on the
download link - fishing for me to download a Trojan or Maleware ?



Depends on the site.  And the player it wants you to DL.


Somehow YouTube now works?  I have no idea why, since I did not download
anything to play it - I THINK !



At some point you updated to a SeaMonkey version that included HTML5 
video capability.



I am guessing that I do not have any control over what SM is doing !


Depends on what you want to control.


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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/28/2015 1:34 PM:

DoctorBill wrote:

I read in several places that Flash Player is dangerous as it can
allow Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


Everything is dangerous to some extent.  I know that Flash works good
with XP3.
If you use Flash, be sure to install the latest version.
It is 19.0.0.226 for Windows as of Saturday, Nov 28, 2015.
Be sure to set Flash cache to zero and run Ccleaner or Bleachbit
periodically
to remove the flash cookies.
To be even safer make sure JS is OFF and stays OFF.



Doing that will break an awful lot of valid sites that require 
javascript to function.  Bank of America comes to mind.



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Re: buttons are painted!

[Rick Merrill]

On 11/27/2015 11:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:36 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sm2.39, win 10 (from win 8), Dell 5000, long time user of seamonkey...

When I first launch Sm the windows appear but the icons of buttons
do not appear until I mouse over them!  What's up with that?

TIA,

Rick


Gremlins! It could also be an extension or theme problem.

Do you use a theme other than the default?

Does the same problem occur in safe mode?



I use "classic" view and "default" theme and extensions are Chatzilla 
and DOM Inspector.


Probably residue from Win 8!-)

I never use safe mode :-(


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Re: buttons are painted!

[WaltS48]

On 11/28/2015 11:30 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:36 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sm2.39, win 10 (from win 8), Dell 5000, long time user of seamonkey...

When I first launch Sm the windows appear but the icons of buttons
do not appear until I mouse over them!  What's up with that?

TIA,

Rick


Gremlins! It could also be an extension or theme problem.

Do you use a theme other than the default?

Does the same problem occur in safe mode?



I use "classic" view and "default" theme and extensions are Chatzilla
and DOM Inspector.

Probably residue from Win 8!-)

I never use safe mode :-(




I don't think there would be a need for safe mode with only those two 
extensions, since they are bundled with SeaMonkey.


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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 28/11/2015 16:53:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and
open it from there.
With Adobe Reader installed, Windows will
already know how to
handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey.
Right-click the filename in
the attachment pane and choose "Open." If as
you say SeaMonkey
doesn't know how to handle PDFs, it will ask
for instructions. When
you choose Adobe Reader, check the box telling
SM to do this every
time it encounters a PDF and you'll be fine
from then on.


Paul, would another (a third) possibility for
Doctor Bill be to
select Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper
Applications and there
select what he wants to open his PDF attachments
in the Browser
screen??


Yes, provided SM has already seen at least one PDF
and saved a policy decision. I wasn't ready to
make that assumption, since he says it doesn't
know how to handle them. If there's no entry in
the prefs, how can he edit it?

I would also note that websites serve PDFs with
several different MIME types, so an "experienced"
copy of SeaMonkey will have several entries in the
prefs. Mine has five, for example.



I found a Canon Camera Manuals site where I pick some camera model and 
the pdf file immediately popped up !


Your advice led me to getting Adobe to load pdf files automatically.

Great !   Thank you again !

DoctorBill
I had also informed Adobe Acrobat Reader that it's better to open the 
pdf itself instead of opening in SM.


But recently I simply switched to Foxit Reader due to the change Acrobat 
Reader have done without reasons.
This new ans unresolved bug is explained here: 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1812515


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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[EE]

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension specifically designed to
force You Tube to deliver videos using Flash rather than HTML5.

If you need the Flash Player/plugin go download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.


A better place to get the Flash player is here:
https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html

There is no extra crap dumped on you from that page.

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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/28/2015 9:24 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I read in several places that Flash Player is 
> dangerous as it can allow Viruses and Trojans
> into your system.
> I went to Mozilla.org then this;
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/
> 
> Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
> Please eschew comments on XP !
> 
> Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
> Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?
> 
> Danke, danke.
> 
> DB
> 

Many others claim Flash is indeed dangerous in that it allows malware
access to your computer.  Since security vulnerabilities in Flash are
not found as frequently as such vulnerabilities in various versions of
Windows, I do not worry about that.

However, I often find Flash to be annoying.  While I have Flash
installed, I also have the Flashblock extension installed and enabled.
For SeaMonkey, get Flashblock 1.3.20 (NOT 1.5.17) from
.

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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[DoctorBill]

EE wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/


Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension
specifically designed to
force You Tube to deliver videos using Flash
rather than HTML5.

If you need the Flash Player/plugin go
download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.


A better place to get the Flash player is here:
https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html


There is no extra crap dumped on you from that page.



As someone who knows about these things, would YOU 
recommend that Mozilla Flash Extension over using 
the (now resident?) HTML5 player.


Sometimes (not always) YouTube Videos (especially 
music ones) are choppy and have pauses, etc.


Would I NOT have that with the Mozilla Extension ?


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Re: Gmail

[Ed Mullen]

Mike lewis wrote on 11/27/2015 11:32 PM:

Mike lewis wrote:

SeaMonkey no longer updates my gmail account, but all other email

accounts,

and newsgroup accounts work fine.


Are you using POP 3 or IMAP?



IMAP



Check your settings.

https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en#ts=1665018

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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[DoctorBill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and
open it from there.
With Adobe Reader installed, Windows will
already know how to
handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey.
Right-click the filename in
the attachment pane and choose "Open." If as
you say SeaMonkey
doesn't know how to handle PDFs, it will ask
for instructions. When
you choose Adobe Reader, check the box telling
SM to do this every
time it encounters a PDF and you'll be fine
from then on.


Paul, would another (a third) possibility for
Doctor Bill be to
select Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper
Applications and there
select what he wants to open his PDF attachments
in the Browser
screen??


Yes, provided SM has already seen at least one PDF
and saved a policy decision. I wasn't ready to
make that assumption, since he says it doesn't
know how to handle them. If there's no entry in
the prefs, how can he edit it?

I would also note that websites serve PDFs with
several different MIME types, so an "experienced"
copy of SeaMonkey will have several entries in the
prefs. Mine has five, for example.



I found a Canon Camera Manuals site where I pick 
some camera model and the pdf file immediately 
popped up !


Your advice led me to getting Adobe to load pdf 
files automatically.


Great !   Thank you again !

DoctorBill
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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Ed Mullen]

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension specifically designed to 
force You Tube to deliver videos using Flash rather than HTML5.


If you need the Flash Player/plugin go download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.

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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[DoctorBill]

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/


Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension
specifically designed to force You Tube to deliver
videos using Flash rather than HTML5.

If you need the Flash Player/plugin go
download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.



OKI read about that, but don't understand 
Flash from HTML5 (or a hole in the ground!).


I just ran 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0BjFl-a1Y and 
right clicked it.

A menu says 'about HTML5 player' at the bottom.
So I have an HTML5 resident player ?
Where did THAT come from !?

I get many web sites that have a big brown (?) 
square and a message that says I need to download 
a player.  Of course I don't click on the download 
link - fishing for me to download a Trojan or 
Maleware ?


Somehow YouTube now works?  I have no idea why, 
since I did not download anything to play it - I 
THINK !


I am guessing that I do not have any control over 
what SM is doing !


DB




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Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[DoctorBill]

I read in several places that Flash Player is 
dangerous as it can allow Viruses and Trojans

into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and open it from there.
With Adobe Reader installed, Windows will already know how to
handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey. Right-click the filename in
the attachment pane and choose "Open." If as you say SeaMonkey
doesn't know how to handle PDFs, it will ask for instructions. When
you choose Adobe Reader, check the box telling SM to do this every
time it encounters a PDF and you'll be fine from then on.


Paul, would another (a third) possibility for Doctor Bill be to
select Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and there
select what he wants to open his PDF attachments in the Browser
screen??


Yes, provided SM has already seen at least one PDF and saved a policy
decision. I wasn't ready to make that assumption, since he says it
doesn't know how to handle them. If there's no entry in the prefs, how
can he edit it?

I would also note that websites serve PDFs with several different MIME
types, so an "experienced" copy of SeaMonkey will have several entries
in the prefs. Mine has five, for example.

There has to be some application associated with the .pdf extension for 
the operating system.  That is the key to getting a helper application 
set up for a browser or email reader.


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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

EE wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 11/28/2015 12:24 PM:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow
Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/



Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


That is not Flash Player.  It's an extension
specifically designed to
force You Tube to deliver videos using Flash
rather than HTML5.

If you need the Flash Player/plugin go
download/install it from:



Remember to UNcheck the McAfee Optional offer.


A better place to get the Flash player is here:
https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html



There is no extra crap dumped on you from that
page.



As someone who knows about these things, would YOU
recommend that Mozilla Flash Extension over using
the (now resident?) HTML5 player.

Sometimes (not always) YouTube Videos (especially
music ones) are choppy and have pauses, etc.

Would I NOT have that with the Mozilla Extension ?


Moot point anyway.says it is not compatible 
with my SM version 2.33.1.Merde !

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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:


On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and open it from there.
With Adobe Reader installed, Windows will already know how to
handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey. Right-click the filename in
the attachment pane and choose "Open." If as you say SeaMonkey
doesn't know how to handle PDFs, it will ask for instructions. When
you choose Adobe Reader, check the box telling SM to do this every
time it encounters a PDF and you'll be fine from then on.


Paul, would another (a third) possibility for Doctor Bill be to
select Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and there
select what he wants to open his PDF attachments in the Browser
screen??


Yes, provided SM has already seen at least one PDF and saved a policy 
decision. I wasn't ready to make that assumption, since he says it 
doesn't know how to handle them. If there's no entry in the prefs, how 
can he edit it?


I would also note that websites serve PDFs with several different MIME 
types, so an "experienced" copy of SeaMonkey will have several entries 
in the prefs. Mine has five, for example.


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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[DoctorBill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 28/11/2015 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


There are two basic approaches to this:

1) Save the attachment to your hard disk and
open it from there.
With Adobe Reader installed, Windows will
already know how to
handle PDFs.

2) Open the attachment in SeaMonkey.
Right-click the filename in
the attachment pane and choose "Open." If as
you say SeaMonkey
doesn't know how to handle PDFs, it will ask
for instructions. When
you choose Adobe Reader, check the box telling
SM to do this every
time it encounters a PDF and you'll be fine
from then on.


Paul, would another (a third) possibility for
Doctor Bill be to
select Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper
Applications and there
select what he wants to open his PDF attachments
in the Browser
screen??


Yes, provided SM has already seen at least one PDF
and saved a policy decision. I wasn't ready to
make that assumption, since he says it doesn't
know how to handle them. If there's no entry in
the prefs, how can he edit it?

I would also note that websites serve PDFs with
several different MIME types, so an "experienced"
copy of SeaMonkey will have several entries in the
prefs. Mine has five, for example.



Thank you Daniel !  and you are right Paul, I 
don't didn't know enough to even look there.


If you don't use the menu every day, at least I 
myself tend to forget all the nuances.


So I did go to "Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper 
Applications"

and looked there.  MANY Adobe items were there.
Five referring to Adobe Acrobat !
When clicked on my choices were Always ask  or 
save file.
Somehow I got a choice of always use Adobe Acrobat 
and clicked it.  Now I works in mail.
Don't know if it works in the Browser because I 
don't know any web links that have pdf files to 
try out  "Ignorance is expensive"

BUT - You fellows have set me on the right path !

Thank you so much !



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Re: buttons are painted!

[Rick Merrill]

On 11/28/2015 11:30 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/27/2015 11:36 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Sm2.39, win 10 (from win 8), Dell 5000, long time user of seamonkey...

When I first launch Sm the windows appear but the icons of buttons
do not appear until I mouse over them!  What's up with that?

TIA,

Rick


Gremlins! It could also be an extension or theme problem.

Do you use a theme other than the default?

Does the same problem occur in safe mode?



I use "classic" view and "default" theme and extensions are Chatzilla
and DOM Inspector.

Probably residue from Win 8!-)

I never use safe mode :-(



Enabling "Modern" seems to solve the problem!  Thanks.

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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[EE]

DoctorBill wrote:

I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM or have it go there
automatically ?

I went to the Add-Ons for SM, but all I saw was some thing about "Adobe
Dynamic Tag Managment (DTM)" at Mozilla.org

Not enough into jargon and the programming of SM to understand this stuff.

Can someone enlighten me on this subject ?



Why not detach the attachment (I presume the .pdf file is an 
attachment?) and read it like any other .pdf file on your hard drive?


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Re: PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[DoctorBill]

EE wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe
reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated
with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't
have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM
or have it go there
automatically ?

I went to the Add-Ons for SM, but all I saw was
some thing about "Adobe
Dynamic Tag Managment (DTM)" at Mozilla.org


Not enough into jargon and the programming of SM
to understand this stuff.

Can someone enlighten me on this subject ?



Why not detach the attachment (I presume the .pdf
file is an attachment?) and read it like any other
.pdf file on your hard drive?

Often I don't know if I want to save the pdf file 
or not, so I would like the option to read it - 
then decide to save it or not.


Just my quirk.

DB
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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

I read in several places that Flash Player is dangerous as it can allow Viruses 
and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB


Everything is dangerous to some extent.  I know that Flash works good with XP3.
If you use Flash, be sure to install the latest version.
It is 19.0.0.226 for Windows as of Saturday, Nov 28, 2015.
Be sure to set Flash cache to zero and run Ccleaner or Bleachbit periodically
to remove the flash cookies.
To be even safer make sure JS is OFF and stays OFF.

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Re: Gmail

[S Slicer]

S Slicer wrote:

Mike lewis wrote:

SeaMonkey no longer updates my gmail account, but all other email
accounts,
and newsgroup accounts work fine.


Are you using POP 3 or IMAP?


Waiting for reply.
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Re: Editing Menu Bars Missing from Seamonkey Mailer Compose screen

[Jonathan N. Little]

Larry S. wrote:

harold.robbi...@gmail.com wrote:

I have somehow lost the necessary menus in the Compose screens. It is
not possible to save or send my emails. I have tried three times to
find someone to help me on the live help screens. They tried, but they
wanted me to send them a screen capture to show what menus are
missing.  But they could not tell me how to send that screen without a
send button.

Is there anyone who can help here? I am running an IMac.

Harold Robbins
her...@austin.rr.com
(512)452-2692


Maybe you hid it (or them)? Clicking on the up-pointing arrows to the
left of the menu bars will hide them. To recover them, look for a
right-pointing arrow to the left. In Mail, it will be below View; in
News, it will be below the Subject line.

Note that these comments apply to me, using SM 2.39, Modern Theme. Might
be different in other cases?


Via keyboard: "ALT+V > ALT+W > ALT+O"


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Re: Gmail

[WaltS48]

On 11/28/2015 03:24 PM, S Slicer wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Mike lewis wrote:

SeaMonkey no longer updates my gmail account, but all other email
accounts,
and newsgroup accounts work fine.


Are you using POP 3 or IMAP?


Waiting for reply.


This reply?



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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Doing that will break an awful lot of valid sites that require
javascript to function.  Bank of America comes to mind.


And any site that uses JS frameworks like Angular and JQuery and depend 
on Ajax, which is countless these days. We're back to the 90's again.


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Re: Editing Menu Bars Missing from Seamonkey Mailer Compose screen

[Larry S.]

harold.robbi...@gmail.com wrote:

I have somehow lost the necessary menus in the Compose screens. It is not 
possible to save or send my emails. I have tried three times to find someone to 
help me on the live help screens. They tried, but they wanted me to send them a 
screen capture to show what menus are missing.  But they could not tell me how 
to send that screen without a send button.

Is there anyone who can help here? I am running an IMac.

Harold Robbins
her...@austin.rr.com
(512)452-2692

Maybe you hid it (or them)? Clicking on the up-pointing arrows to the 
left of the menu bars will hide them. To recover them, look for a 
right-pointing arrow to the left. In Mail, it will be below View; in 
News, it will be below the Subject line.


Note that these comments apply to me, using SM 2.39, Modern Theme. Might 
be different in other cases?


Larry S.
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Editing Menu Bars Missing from Seamonkey Mailer Compose screen

[harold . robbins1]

I have somehow lost the necessary menus in the Compose screens. It is not 
possible to save or send my emails. I have tried three times to find someone to 
help me on the live help screens. They tried, but they wanted me to send them a 
screen capture to show what menus are missing.  But they could not tell me how 
to send that screen without a send button.

Is there anyone who can help here? I am running an IMac.

Harold Robbins
her...@austin.rr.com
(512)452-2692
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Re: Mozilla PDF.js was PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[WaltS48]

On 11/28/2015 08:54 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM or have it go there
automatically ?



What about the "PDF reader in Javascript" as a replacement for Adobe
Reader?

I found this from the Mozilla PDF.js web page:

"PDF.js is a Portable Document Format (PDF) viewer that is built with
HTML5.

PDF.js is community-driven and supported by Mozilla Labs. Our goal is to
create a general-purpose, web standards-based platform for parsing and
rendering PDFs."


Could PDF.js be a replacement for Adobe Reader?


Can and does replace Adobe Reader.

You will have to use the development version of pdf.js found at 
 under the Browser Extensions heading.


I didn't even have to tell Helper Applications to use it. It just worked.

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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/28/2015 10:36 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote on 11/28/2015 1:10 PM:
>> On 11/28/2015 9:24 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>> I read in several places that Flash Player is
>>> dangerous as it can allow Viruses and Trojans
>>> into your system.
>>> I went to Mozilla.org then this;
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/
>>>
>>> Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
>>> Please eschew comments on XP !
>>>
>>> Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
>>> Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?
>>>
>>> Danke, danke.
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>
>> Many others claim Flash is indeed dangerous in that it allows malware
>> access to your computer.  Since security vulnerabilities in Flash are
>> not found as frequently as such vulnerabilities in various versions of
>> Windows, I do not worry about that.
>>
>> However, I often find Flash to be annoying.  While I have Flash
>> installed, I also have the Flashblock extension installed and enabled.
>> For SeaMonkey, get Flashblock 1.3.20 (NOT 1.5.17) from
>> .
>>
> 
> You don't really need Flashblock anymore.  Just set to "Always ask" in 
> the add-ons manager.
> 
> 

I am not sure, but I think that enabling Flash from an "Always ask"
setting will enable it for all the Flash on the current Web page.  Some
Web pages have more than one Flash.  Flashblock allows me to play the
one Flash I select without playing the others on the same page.

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Re: Unsubscribe due to too many e-mails

[»Q«]

In ,
EE  wrote:

> Ray_Net wrote:
> > EE wrote on 27/11/2015 19:38:  
> >> George wrote:  
> >>> Gentlemen,
> >>>
> >>> Since I signed up for the site I am receiving many e-mails each
> >>> day from people I do not know.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know how I can unsubscribe in order to prevent all
> >>> the e-mails.

> >> Stop putting your correct email address in your posts.  You can
> >> set up a newsgroup account using a fake email address.
> >>  
> > He did not post in a newsgroup, he post thru
> > support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org  SO he need to furnish his real
> > address; NO ?  
> 
> Then spammers are harvesting email addresses from there and he should 
> start using newsgroups instead, with a fake email address.

No, they aren't.  He just wants to stop receiving list e-mails.
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Re: Youtube videos suddenly won't play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

jon.gearh...@copysystemsinc.com wrote:


Seamonkey 2.39 Build 20151103191810
Windows 7
Verified latest flash player is installed.

No videos on youtube.com will play. I just get the black box where
the video should be. This just started this week. The same videos
play fine in Google Chrome and IE. It only effects my default
profile. If I create a new profile, they play fine. What can the
issue be?


Begin by clearing cache and cookies, reattempt. If that doesn't help, 
report back.


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Re: Is 'Flash Player' dangerous ?

[Ed Mullen]

David E. Ross wrote on 11/28/2015 7:51 PM:

On 11/28/2015 10:36 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 11/28/2015 1:10 PM:

On 11/28/2015 9:24 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I read in several places that Flash Player is
dangerous as it can allow Viruses and Trojans
into your system.
I went to Mozilla.org then this;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-player/

Is this safe to use on SM 2.33.1 ?  Using XP.
Please eschew comments on XP !

Why do all these say they are for YouTube ?
Do they work only on YouTube and nothing else ?

Danke, danke.

DB



Many others claim Flash is indeed dangerous in that it allows malware
access to your computer.  Since security vulnerabilities in Flash are
not found as frequently as such vulnerabilities in various versions of
Windows, I do not worry about that.

However, I often find Flash to be annoying.  While I have Flash
installed, I also have the Flashblock extension installed and enabled.
For SeaMonkey, get Flashblock 1.3.20 (NOT 1.5.17) from
.



You don't really need Flashblock anymore.  Just set to "Always ask" in
the add-ons manager.




I am not sure, but I think that enabling Flash from an "Always ask"
setting will enable it for all the Flash on the current Web page.  Some
Web pages have more than one Flash.  Flashblock allows me to play the
one Flash I select without playing the others on the same page.



Never seen "Always ask" to fail. No experience with Flashblock as I work 
to minimize installed extensions.



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Youtube videos suddenly won't play

[jon . gearhart]

Seamonkey 2.39 Build 20151103191810
Windows 7
Verified latest flash player is installed.

No videos on youtube.com will play. I just get the black box where the video 
should be. This just started this week. The same videos play fine in Google 
Chrome and IE. It only effects my default profile. If I create a new profile, 
they play fine. What can the issue be?
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Mozilla PDF.js was PDF Adobe in SeaMonkey

[Paul Bergsagel]

DoctorBill wrote:

I often get Mail where a pdf file needs Adobe reader to see it.
I have Adobe Reader, but it is not associated with SM.
I have to click on the link that says I don't have Adobe !  THEN it
loads.  Kind of clunky.

Is there a way to get the Adobe Reader "into" SM or have it go there
automatically ?



What about the "PDF reader in Javascript" as a replacement for Adobe Reader?

I found this from the Mozilla PDF.js web page:

"PDF.js is a Portable Document Format (PDF) viewer that is built with HTML5.

PDF.js is community-driven and supported by Mozilla Labs. Our goal is to 
create a general-purpose, web standards-based platform for parsing and 
rendering PDFs."



Could PDF.js be a replacement for Adobe Reader?
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