Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Danny Kile wrote:


Paul, I second that. When I use to be in the business I had Test PC
setup online that I use to try to get viruses on so I could figure
out how to remove them. To fix clients PC when they got them, I could
not find them. I do not know where people go to get these things.


Check your spam folder. Probably more than half of them get it there.

And of course there are the various websites that offer something for 
nothing, deals that are too good to be true (free high-def movies, 
Nigerian scams, obscene photos of celebs who don't even take their 
clothes off in the shower, that kind of stuff).


Easiest way for an upstanding citizen to find malware is to do an 
ordinary Google search and then look through the hit list for "This site 
may harm your computer."


As for working without a net, I'm all too aware, especially as I age, 
that I'm fallible and often inattentive, so an AV program is cheap 
protection. I wear a seat belt in the car, too -- I'm a safe driver, but 
lots of others aren't. An AV program could miss something, but not by 
being sleepy or distracted. And the day I discover I'm perfect, I'll 
notify my clients I'm raising my rates. ;-)


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Re: Blocked images in email

2016-01-01 Thread Ed Mullen 

Ray_Net wrote on 1/1/2016 3:18 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote on 01/01/2016 02:33:

Ed Mullen wrote on 12/31/2015 8:14 PM:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/31/2015 2:02 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and
the images were NOT
visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going to do anything.


Oh, I see.  Not an add on then.
Something in basic SM settings instead.



I should add that in Safe Mode everything was good.  So what's the
difference between Safe Mode and manually disabling all extensions and
plugins and running in regular mode?  What else is Safe Mode doing?


On this page http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode It is explained what
options you have to choose when starting in safe mode,
So if you had started SM in safe mode, this windows was visible to you
and you set some options .. no ?


The options window allows making Safe Mode settings permanent.  I did 
not set any.


The final solution was to create a new profile and migrate my settings 
to it.


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Spell checker has a mind of its own

2016-01-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 
As I've noted before, SeaMonkey's spell checker periodically switches 
language without prompting or authorization. For example, I was minding 
my own business today, browsing English-language sites, and it silently 
switched to the Russian dictionary.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Spelling
Language: English (United States) => Russian (Russian Federation)

I didn't notice until I began composing this message, when the entire 
subject line, as well as the body text, was flagged with wavy underlines.


So I went into the pref and switched it back to English. No effect. Wavy 
lines still there. Confirmed the pref -- still set to English (United 
States), but ignored by the spell-checker.


So I launched the spell-checker (CTRL-SHIFT-P), and despite the 
preference I had set, it checked the page against the Russian 
dictionary. I switched it to English, and it still flagged "As" at the 
beginning of this message. Not until I told it to "Recheck page" did it 
get a clue and start using the English dictionary.


Apparently my preference can be overruled if SM decides that the current 
page content isn't in that language. What I don't understand is why it 
would do that for this message, and persist in the error even after I've 
told it the correct language.


The language detection routine also appears to need work. Although roman 
characters can appear in Russian text, it is highly unlikely than an 
all-roman text, especially a long one, is Russian.


P.S. I do compose messages in Russian, which is why I have the Russian 
dictionary installed. But this ain't that.


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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread Danny Kile 

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 01/01/2016 07:06, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


I will stick with 2.26.1 as long as it keeps working.
I have no need or desire for the latest.


No need? How about not being owned by a rogue website?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/

Regards.


I've been on the web since 1991.  I don't run any virus shields or
active anything.  I don't click on everything that I see.
Have never gotten any vir-mal-troj's.
I scan my comps every few weeks with various scanners.
Nothing yet.



Paul, I second that. When I use to be in the business I had  Test PC 
setup online that I use to try to get viruses on so I could figure out 
how to remove them. To fox clients PC when they got them, I could not 
find them. I do not know where people go to get these things.

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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread W3BNR 
On 12/31/2015 10:39 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I have been messaging on this News Group about problems with SM and Windows XP
> and quite a few of those here 'suggested' (lol) that I upgrade to a higher
> version of Windows.  I had to buy a newer computer - which I just did - a used
> one with Windows 7 which I can get upgraded to Windows 10 should I choose.
> 
> So - should I stay with Win 7 (which the Computer Store vendor suggests) or go
> to Windows 10 (free upgrade).
> 
> If I stay with Windows 7 - is any particular SM version better with 7 ?
> If I go for Windows 10, is there a better SM version for THAT !?
> 
> I understand that going for Windows 10 means that I HAVE to let Microsoft get
> into my pants 100%
> I was told you HAVE to give them access to everything you do on that computer 
> to
> even use the program. User agreement.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

I upgraded to WIN 10 in September.  Configured it to show GUI as in the past.
Program icons that looked like they did on 7 and XP with no problems.  I run
only programs that were designed for the 'home COMPUTER' not I-xxx's and
Androids.  For 'APPS' I use my i-Phone and/or i-Pad.  Not my COMPUTER.

So what do you need, a COMPUTER or an APP machine?  You make the decision.

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Re: Blocked images in email

2016-01-01 Thread Ray_Net 

Ed Mullen wrote on 01/01/2016 02:33:

Ed Mullen wrote on 12/31/2015 8:14 PM:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/31/2015 2:02 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and
the images were NOT
visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going to do anything.


Oh, I see.  Not an add on then.
Something in basic SM settings instead.



I should add that in Safe Mode everything was good.  So what's the 
difference between Safe Mode and manually disabling all extensions and 
plugins and running in regular mode?  What else is Safe Mode doing?


On this page http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode It is explained what 
options you have to choose when starting in safe mode,
So if you had started SM in safe mode, this windows was visible to you 
and you set some options .. no ?

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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread Mason83 
On 01/01/2016 05:11, Daniel wrote:

> Maybe her needs are fairly simple (I think Facebook is about all she does!).

If all she needs is a browser, she could be using Linux,
possibly with a Windows-like desktop ;-)

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028896/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html

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Re: support

2016-01-01 Thread Ray_Net 

Ed Mullen wrote on 01/01/2016 02:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 12/31/2015 10:52 AM:

pedro wrote on 31/12/2015 15:27:

When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse
computers in Brazil. Why does it happen? The community could change
this? It is a safe and fast browser, but the setup is difficult.
Windows 7 does not allow the SeaMonkey work properly.
Regards,
Ribamar

What is "browse computers in Brazil" ?
A browser browse web pages located on a web server.
I cannot browe a computer 


Actually, a browser can browse HTML/Web pages stored locally an a PC. 
No Internet involved.  No server involved.  In Windows try opening 
Windows Explorer and locating an HTML file.  Double-click it.  Your 
default browser should open and display the file.


If you save an entire Web site locally and the pages are all HTML, you 
can browse that "site" locally with no Internet connection.  I used to 
do it all the time with my sites when I named everything *.html.  I 
have since changed to *.php files.  To browse those locally-stored 
sites requires a local server.  Still, no need for Internet.


However, I'm still not clear on the OP's dilemma.  The language (or 
other) gap is in the way.


He might resend it again in Portuguese so we can parse it through 
Google translate.  Hmm.  Maybe he already did that.


Ok you are true ... I missed this point, but I cannot understand "browse 
computers in Brazil" ... perhaps the ".br" extension is killed by his 
SM, his firewall, his anti-virus, his provider , etc ... ?

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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 1/1/2016 12:06 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I have been messaging on this News Group about problems with SM
and Windows XP and quite a
few of those here 'suggested' (lol) that I upgrade to a higher
version of Windows.  I had
to buy a newer computer - which I just did - a used one with
Windows 7 which I can get
upgraded to Windows 10 should I choose.

So - should I stay with Win 7 (which the Computer Store vendor
suggests) or go to Windows
10 (free upgrade).

If I stay with Windows 7 - is any particular SM version better
with 7 ?
If I go for Windows 10, is there a better SM version for THAT !?

I understand that going for Windows 10 means that I HAVE to let
Microsoft get into my
pants 100%
I was told you HAVE to give them access to everything you do on
that computer to even use
the program. User agreement.

DoctorBill


Everyone will have a different opinion.
I have no use for w10 and no desire to up from w7 to w10.
Don't need to make my desktop look and act like a phone.
You might want to read the w10 NG.
alt.comp.os.windows-10
Which version of SM?  Most people should get the newest.
I will stick with 2.26.1 as long as it keeps working.
I have no need or desire for the latest.



I'm happy with 2.26.1 on WinXP Pro SP3. I'll stick with it until 
I complete my move to Linux.


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Re: Blocked images in email

2016-01-01 Thread Mason83 
On 01/01/2016 02:33, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote on 12/31/2015 8:14 PM:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/31/2015 2:02 PM:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:

 Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and
 the images were NOT
 visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going to do anything.
>>>
>>> Oh, I see.  Not an add on then.
>>> Something in basic SM settings instead.
> 
> I should add that in Safe Mode everything was good.  So what's the 
> difference between Safe Mode and manually disabling all extensions and 
> plugins and running in regular mode?  What else is Safe Mode doing?
> 
> Because whatever it is that fixed the issue and manually disabling 
> add-ons did not.  I'd like to know because migrating to a new profile in 
> a case like this is not trivial and I know what I'm doing.  I'd dread 
> talking someone else through it.  I've got a couple of dozen email and 
> news accounts and lots of custom settings.  I've kind of got it down to 
> a science of copying and pasting account settings from the old profile's 
> prefs.js to the new one but it's not what I'd call "fun."
> 
> I even went so far as to use about:config in SM and TB side-by-side to 
> try and find any relevant settings differences and finally gave up.
> 
> Oh, well.  Problem solved with new profile.  No wonder we see that 
> answer here so often.

Go into your old profile, and type about:support

Compare that output to the output for your fresh profile,
especially the "Important Modified Preferences" section.

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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread Mason83 
On 01/01/2016 07:06, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

> I will stick with 2.26.1 as long as it keeps working.
> I have no need or desire for the latest.

No need? How about not being owned by a rogue website?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/

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Re: Pour ouverture de messagerie

2016-01-01 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

rogersr...@gmail.com wrote:

Bonsoir,
J'aurais aimé savoir comment faire pour avoir à l'ouverture de Seamonkek la 
page de la messagerie au lieu de la page d'accueil
Merci



If I understand you correctly your question is how to disable the 
default Start Page in Mail & Newsgroups?


MENU: "Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups". Uncheck "When Mail 
launches, show the Start Page in the message area"


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Re: Pour ouverture de messagerie

2016-01-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Jonathan N. Little wrote:


rogersr...@gmail.com wrote:

Bonsoir,
J'aurais aimé savoir comment faire pour avoir à l'ouverture de
Seamonkek la page de la messagerie au lieu de la page d'accueil
Merci



If I understand you correctly your question is how to disable the
default Start Page in Mail & Newsgroups?

MENU: "Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups". Uncheck "When Mail
launches, show the Start Page in the message area"


I thought he wanted to open the mail app instead of the browser on launch.

Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
...

Sorry, don't have the French version. Lucas?

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Re: Pour ouverture de messagerie

2016-01-01 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:


rogersr...@gmail.com wrote:

Bonsoir,
J'aurais aimé savoir comment faire pour avoir à l'ouverture de
Seamonkek la page de la messagerie au lieu de la page d'accueil
Merci



If I understand you correctly your question is how to disable the
default Start Page in Mail & Newsgroups?

MENU: "Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups". Uncheck "When Mail
launches, show the Start Page in the message area"


I thought he wanted to open the mail app instead of the browser on launch.

Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
...

Sorry, don't have the French version. Lucas?



Maybe. not sure. I just have shortcuts for both. So if I want to start 
with the browser I click the browser shortcut, if I want to start with 
mail I click the mail shortcut: seamonkey -mail 


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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

2016-01-01 Thread WaltS48 

On 01/01/2016 12:36 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 01/01/2016 07:06, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


I will stick with 2.26.1 as long as it keeps working.
I have no need or desire for the latest.


No need? How about not being owned by a rogue website?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/

Regards.


I've been on the web since 1991.  I don't run any virus shields or
active anything.  I don't click on everything that I see.
Have never gotten any vir-mal-troj's.
I scan my comps every few weeks with various scanners.
Nothing yet.



Does being exposed to those security vulnerabilities mean that your are 
going to get anything, or just that others could use your computer 
without your knowledge, and it wouldn't show up on any scans.


Would a "RSA Signature Forgery in NSS" fixed in SeaMonkey 2.29.1 show up 
on a scan?


Would any exploits of the over 100 security vulnerabilities fixed since 
2.26.1 was released?




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