Re: Compiling Seamonkey 2.49.5
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: In looking at the configure files for the source of Seamonkey 2.49.5, I see it needs python 2.7. The file bootstrap.py says, "Bootstrap currently only runs on Python 2.7 or Python 2.6." Is is possible to compile with Python 2.4, even if it is a convoluted process? If you have only 2.4 chance is that everything else is downlevel too. Which OS? CentOS 5.11 Sorry forget it. 6 might work with some plumbing. Official builders did run it till decommisioned. Official 2.49.5 was done under 7. That's too bad. I want to keep Gnome 2. I despise Gnome 3, but my wife, who is not computer literate and who has memory problems needs to have the same UI. I thought compiling a version of Seamonkey with TLS 2 would be easier than compiling all of Gnome 2. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compiling Seamonkey 2.49.5
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: In looking at the configure files for the source of Seamonkey 2.49.5, I see it needs python 2.7. The file bootstrap.py says, "Bootstrap currently only runs on Python 2.7 or Python 2.6." Is is possible to compile with Python 2.4, even if it is a convoluted process? Thanks, Craig If you have only 2.4 chance is that everything else is downlevel too. Which OS? FRG CentOS 5.11 Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compiling Seamonkey 2.49.5
In looking at the configure files for the source of Seamonkey 2.49.5, I see it needs python 2.7. The file bootstrap.py says, "Bootstrap currently only runs on Python 2.7 or Python 2.6." Is is possible to compile with Python 2.4, even if it is a convoluted process? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey is crashing my computer
Craig McCluskey wrote: goodwin wrote: On 07/15/2013 09:33 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > I was browsing on a web page, clicked a link, and my monitor went black. A few seconds later the BIOS boot screen started up. I had this about a week ago, but I think I was running 2.17.1 then. At any rate, I am not a happy camper. Any suggestions on how to fix this? I don't like having to take the time to recover my computer and check that the files have not been corrupted by the unceremonious shutdown. what makes you think this is a SM issue? Twice having a crash the instant I clicked on a web browser link. Well, I removed the EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR Geforce 8600gt and used my motherboard's integrated ATI Radeon HD 4200 GPU to drive my monitor. This way, I no longer used the NVidia proprietary video drivers. I have run four months now and have not had a crash so I conclude the problem was not with SeaMonkey, but instead with the NVidia drivers. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey is crashing my computer
goodwin wrote: On 07/15/2013 09:33 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > I was browsing on a web page, clicked a link, and my monitor went black. A few seconds later the BIOS boot screen started up. I had this about a week ago, but I think I was running 2.17.1 then. At any rate, I am not a happy camper. Any suggestions on how to fix this? I don't like having to take the time to recover my computer and check that the files have not been corrupted by the unceremonious shutdown. Also, anyone know why e2fsck clears orphaned inodes instead of attaching them to the appropriate lost+found directory? what makes you think this is a SM issue? Twice having a crash the instant I clicked on a web browser link. what desktop you using? Gnome what do your logs say? There is no information in /var/log/messages about the crash. The entry at Jul 15 16:43:51 is a message about the firewall rejecting a connection. The next entry, after the crash says, Jul 15 22:01:23 linux syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey is crashing my computer
Seamonkey 2.19 on CentOS 5.9 Linux. Plugins: Shockwave Flash File: libflashplayer.so Path: /usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: 11,2,202,297 State: Enabled Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 Adobe Reader 9.5 File: nppdf.so,nppdf.so Path: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so,/usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/nppdf.so Version: State: Disabled The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF files from within the browser. Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible File: nphelix.so,nphelix.so Path: /usr/local/RealPlayer/mozilla/nphelix.so,/usr/local/seamonkey.2.19/plugins/nphelix.so Version: State: Enabled Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version 0.4.0.5745 built with gcc 3.4.6 on Nov 17 2010 I was browsing on a web page, clicked a link, and my monitor went black. A few seconds later the BIOS boot screen started up. I had this about a week ago, but I think I was running 2.17.1 then. At any rate, I am not a happy camper. Any suggestions on how to fix this? I don't like having to take the time to recover my computer and check that the files have not been corrupted by the unceremonious shutdown. Also, anyone know why e2fsck clears orphaned inodes instead of attaching them to the appropriate lost+found directory? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey no longer on releases.mozilla.org?
I went to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/ to see if SeaMonkey had been updated (since my checking for updates still does not work) and found an empty directory -- no releases sub-directory like firefox and thunderbird. What's up with that? Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java, again
Hartmut Figge wrote: Craig McCluskey: cd /usr/local/seamonkey mkdir plugins cd plugins ln -s /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so . You are using x86_64. Is the plugin in i386 the right one? As I said before in my threads about not getting notifications of updates, my OS is x86_64, BUT MY BROWSER is i686. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Where are your other plugins? Mine are in hafi@i5_64 ~ $ locate nsbrowser /usr/lib64/nsbrowser /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/javaplugin.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/mozplugger.so Mine have always been in /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins as the four lines of Linux commands above show. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Java, again
I saw some information about Java working, so I went to Tools -> Add-ons Manager and checked to see if I had Java running. I did not, so I clicked on the link "Check to see if your plugins are up to date" I did that and a new tab opened up which took me to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/. That page, below the racoon with the magnifying glass, had a box that said, Missing Java? For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. I clicked on the "upgrade to the latest version" link and was taken to http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp . There I clicked on the red "Free Java Download" button and ended up at http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en, which was "Java Downloads for Linux Recommended Version 7 Update 17" I downloaded and installed the Linux (i386) RPM and quit SeaMonkey. I then executed, cd /usr/local/seamonkey mkdir plugins cd plugins ln -s /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so . I restarted SeaMonkey, went to Tools -> Add-ons Manager and again saw that Java was missing. Clicking on the link "Check to see if your plugins are up to date" took me to the same page with the same note about Java being disabled. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is the Reset Firefox feature going to be in Seamonkey too?
WaltS wrote: On 02/22/2013 11:20 AM, hawker wrote: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reset-firefox-easily-fix-most-problems. Is this nifty feature going to be part of Seamonkey as well? I think it is targeted for any user. It fixed a problem I had awhile back with a Firefox Nightly version where some new menu items were not appearing after an update. Needs to be the default profile though. Would be nice if SeaMonkey and Thunderbird could integrate this feature. On Linux, I copy the directory .mozilla in my home directory to a backup directory someplace else in the file system. When I mess something up or inadvertently close a tab I want to keep around, I - quit SeaMonkey - remove the .mozilla directory in my home directory - copy the backup .mozilla directory to my home directory - restart SeaMonkey. That was everything is as it should be without any pain. In fact, I just did this this morning to find out which tab of the 70 or so I had open was continuing to cause network traffic (turned out to be taleo.net, the job-search site). Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
WaltS wrote: So how did you get updated to SeaMonkey 2.15.1? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 Are you running a version installed by your OS, or downloaded from Mozilla? I manually downloaded it from http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/, like I always do. Check for updates doesn't work in versions installed from your OS software management program. Good to know. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Firefox 18.0.1 due Friday
Ant wrote: Thanks. Will there be a SeaMonkey v2.15.1 with these fixes too? On 1/16/2013 5:29 AM PT, WaltS typed: Perusing the Mozilla Platform meeting notes, there will be a chemspill release on Friday. "Firefox 18.0.1 (maintenance, not security-driven, desktop only)" <http://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/1264> Hijacking the thread some, I downloaded both Firefox 18.0 and Firefox 18.0.1 and tried running both of them from the command line and got the error message: $ ./firefox Couldn't load XRE functions. $ Any ideas what is causing this and what I need to do to fix this? Craig P.S. I'm glad this doesn't happen with SeaMonkey 2.15.1. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines
NoOp wrote: What do you show for: $ ls -al /home//seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins total 64 drwxr-xr-x 2 gl gl 4096 Jan 5 21:09 . drwxr-xr-x 12 gl gl 12288 Jan 5 21:09 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 gl gl 1747 Jan 5 21:09 creativecommons.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 gl gl 2584 Jan 5 21:09 google.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 gl gl 1391 Jan 5 21:09 wikipedia.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 gl gl 1251 Jan 5 21:09 yahoo.xml If you show those (you should) then create a test profile and see if the search options show up in the test profile. If so, then you have a profile issue, not a SeaMonkey version/install issue. You will show those ONLY if you install SeaMonkey in your home directory. If you install it in /usr/local, you will see directory of: /usr/local/seamonkey/searchplugins total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1747 Jan 18 21:03 creativecommons.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root 2584 Jan 18 21:03 google.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1391 Jan 18 21:03 wikipedia.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1251 Jan 18 21:03 yahoo.xml Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
WaltS wrote: Other than your UA showing that you are using SeaMonkey 2.15, which is the latest version, I have no clue. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 NOTE ---| Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 Are you referring to the 64-bit version, which is a contributed build? No. I have never run the 64-bit version. I have not been able to check for updates on the 32-bit version for a VERY LONG time, which is my complaint. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Craig wrote: I downgraded to SM 2.13.2 and ran a manual update test. What the Error Console shows is: AUS:UI General:getPref - failed to get preference: app.update.billboard.test_url AUS:UI gUpdates:onLoad - setting current page to startpage checking AUS:SVC getLocale - getting locale from file: resource://app/update.locale, locale: en-US AUS:SVC Checker:getUpdateURL - update URL: https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/SeaMonkey/2.13.2/20121026204658/Linux_x86-gcc3/en-US/release/Linux%202.6.18-308.24.1.el5%20(GTK%202.10.4)/default/default/update.xml?force=1 AUS:SVC Checker:checkForUpdates - sending request to: https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/SeaMonkey/2.13.2/20121026204658/Linux_x86-gcc3/en-US/release/Linux%202.6.18-308.24.1.el5%20(GTK%202.10.4)/default/default/update.xml?force=1 AUS:SVC Checker:onProgress - 42/42 AUS:SVC Checker:onLoad - request completed downloading document AUS:SVC Checker:onLoad - number of updates available: 0 AUS:UI gCheckingPage:onCheckComplete - no update found AUS:UI gNoUpdatesPage:onPageShow - could not select an appropriate update. Either there were no updates or |selectUpdate| failed The Software Update window says, "No Updates Found," which we know is not true. Opening the URL in the web browser gets a page that has a grey band across the top with a black line at its bottom. The text in the grey band says, "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below." Below the grey band is the text, " I ran SM from the command line today and got the following messages, which might have something to do with it: [craig]$ ./seamonkey *** AUS:SVC UpdateManager:_loadXMLFileIntoArray: XML file does not exist *** AUS:SVC gCanCheckForUpdates - able to check for updates Does this give anyone a clue as to what is going on with my not being informed about updates? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java, again
WaltS wrote: Craig wrote: Is it possible to get Java to work with SeaMonkey yet? Thanks, Craig No. "Linux: The Oracle Java 7 plugin does not work with SeaMonkey (bug 754622)." http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/#issues https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622 Thank you. I though it maybe had been fixed. I guess I didn't read the release notes thoroughly enough. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Java, again
I ran a plugin check (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) and saw the message, Missing JAVA? For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. So I clicked on the "upgrade to the latest version", downloaded jre-7u10-linux-i586.rpm and installed it. When I restarted SeaMonkey, I found that it still didn't have Java operational. I do have in /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins the link libnpjp2.so -> /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so That's the one that works with Firefox. Is it possible to get Java to work with SeaMonkey yet? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: If you want to know what to substitute them as, you can set app.update.log;true and then you'll see all the details in your error console when you attempt an update. Yup, I sure do! The reason for those substitutions is so that we can give you the proper update, including a smaller update for some builds/versions, etc. And that's greatly appreciated. I downgraded to SM 2.13.2 and ran a manual update test. What the Error Console shows is: AUS:UI General:getPref - failed to get preference: app.update.billboard.test_url AUS:UI gUpdates:onLoad - setting current page to startpage checking AUS:SVC getLocale - getting locale from file: resource://app/update.locale, locale: en-US AUS:SVC Checker:getUpdateURL - update URL: https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/SeaMonkey/2.13.2/20121026204658/Linux_x86-gcc3/en-US/release/Linux%202.6.18-308.24.1.el5%20(GTK%202.10.4)/default/default/update.xml?force=1 AUS:SVC Checker:checkForUpdates - sending request to: https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/SeaMonkey/2.13.2/20121026204658/Linux_x86-gcc3/en-US/release/Linux%202.6.18-308.24.1.el5%20(GTK%202.10.4)/default/default/update.xml?force=1 AUS:SVC Checker:onProgress - 42/42 AUS:SVC Checker:onLoad - request completed downloading document AUS:SVC Checker:onLoad - number of updates available: 0 AUS:UI gCheckingPage:onCheckComplete - no update found AUS:UI gNoUpdatesPage:onPageShow - could not select an appropriate update. Either there were no updates or |selectUpdate| failed The Software Update window says, "No Updates Found," which we know is not true. Opening the URL in the web browser gets a page that has a grey band across the top with a black line at its bottom. The text in the grey band says, "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below." Below the grey band is the text, " Incidentally, when I open the Mail & Newsgroups window, the error console shows Timestamp: 01/02/13 19:41:54 Warning: Use of Mutation Events is deprecated. Use MutationObserver instead. Source File: chrome://messenger/content/msgMail3PaneWindow.js Line: 1001 Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Rob wrote: Craig wrote: Rob wrote: The program fetches an XML file using a URL that is configured in about:config pref app.update.url That parameter in my SM 2.14.1 has the value: app.update.url;https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml I presume SM substitutes values for all the text between per-cent signs. How do I figure out what all those values are? No idea. Maybe temporarily change the https to http and check again in wireshark. I changed it from https to http and re-ran Wireshark's capture and SM's update check. It still changes to an encrypted link. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: CheckPlaces is no more
Rufus wrote: cmcadams wrote: The gory details: http://www.andyhalford.com/index.html Does this mean CheckPlaces will be removed at the next SM update? I noted this the first time I head mention of this particular add-on. I was able to find it from other sources (like CNET, etc.), however, I'd expect it to fully sunset...in time. It apparently already has. I was unable to locate it, except at http://checkplaces.it.uptodown.com/download, where trying to install it brings up the message, "CheckPlaces could not be installed because it is not compatible with Seamonkey 2.14.1." Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Rob wrote: The program fetches an XML file using a URL that is configured in about:config pref app.update.url That parameter in my SM 2.14.1 has the value: app.update.url;https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml I presume SM substitutes values for all the text between per-cent signs. How do I figure out what all those values are? I suspect some of them are from my Help -> About Seamonkey display: You are currently on the release update channel. See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project. Read the licensing information for this product. Read the release notes for this version. See the build configuration used for this version. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14.1 Build identifier: 20121129191050 When I run Wireshark and tell SM to check for updates, I see my computer requesting an IP address for aus2-community.mozilla.org, whereupon it goes to 63.245.223.9 and establishes an encrypted connection. I cannot, of course, see any details of the encrypted connection in Wireshark. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Rob wrote: It is not a good idea to install a package from the distributor and then update versions via an app-native auto update mechanism. I have always installed and updated both Seamonkey and Firefox by going to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ and downloading the appropriate packages. I have never gotten them from CentOS. I asked what mechanism and URL they SM and FF use to check for updates so I can see if that is working properly. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: close button on tabs
Rufus wrote: Craig I wasn't aware of the "right-click on Tab" option/ability until this post, and now I like and prefer the SM implementation even more than previously! Great! And if you have many tabs open and want to find out how many there are, you can right-click on tab -> Close Other Tabs and get a message saying, "You are about to close N other tab(s). Are you sure you want to continue?" Clicking cancel will stop the close process. NOTE: You MUST have the "Warn me when I attempt to close other tabs" option enabled! I do not, however, see any settings for that in Edit -> Preferences... (Maybe someone else can tell me where it is.) Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: Works for me - tells me that 2.14.2 is available. I backed down to 2.13.2 and did Help|Check for updates: Screenshot: <http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/screenshotfrom201212021.png/> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Note: I haven't tried from Centos (yet). The above is from an Ubuntu 12.04. Regarding update notifications; SeaMonkey may briefly flash an update indicator, but doesn't seem to do the same as Firefox where FF pops up a new window. Sorry for the 3+ weeks delay. I noticed on http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ today that the 32-bit version of SM 2.14.1 for Linux was available, so I went to Help -> Check for Updates... to manually check for the update. SM told me "There are no updates available. Seamonkey will check periodically for updates." I saw that FF had also been updated (from 16.0.2 to 17.0.1), so I tried the same thing in FF. It told me FF at 16.0.2 was up-to-date. What mechanism do SM and FF use to check for updates? What URLs do they check? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: close button on tabs
Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: I know this has been addressed before but am wondering if any progress has been made toward a solution of adding a close button on tabs in SM 2.14.1 and beyond. I know you can right click and choose to close tab or if the tab is at the far right just click the close button on the right or middle click on a tab to close it but my middle click button has quite working on my mouse and hate to buy a new one. In the SM Modern Theme there is a close button in the right hand corner of the Tab bar which will close the current Tab. That's what I use, but I know what you mean, Safari has the button on the Tab itself. Personally, I'm content with either implementation. Though I do find that it's quicker to close multiple Tabs using the SM implementation because you don't have to move the cursor - just click away. I much prefer the Seamonkey implementation. The open new tab and close existing tab buttons are always in the same place. That's one of the reasons I don't regularly use Firefox, where the corresponding buttons move depending upon how many tabs you have open. I haven't tried it in Firefox, but if I have more tabs open in a window than are displayed on the tab bar, I can get to the open new tab button in Seamonkey regardless of which tab I'm displaying. If Firefox's implementation works the same way as Seamonkey, I would first have to go to the right-most tab to expose the open new tab button and then click the button. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Craig wrote: NoOp wrote: I'll stick with 2.13.2 and see what happens with the next release. Craig 2.14 has just been released, so try: Help|Check for Updates & see if you get the update info. I just tried on this 32bit & it does tell me about the update. I did HELP -> Check for Updates and it says there are no updates available. Indeed, I got caught up with other things mostly related to my actual paid job this past week, I hope to have Linux 64 updates "on the wire" so to speak as of this weekend. I will let this newsgroup know when I do. It is still an entirely manual process for these updates, so bear with us. But I'm running 32-bit SM! As my User-Agent string says, Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 The 32-bit SM is supposed to look for new versions of the 32-bit SM, isn't it? Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: I'll stick with 2.13.2 and see what happens with the next release. Craig 2.14 has just been released, so try: Help|Check for Updates & see if you get the update info. I just tried on this 32bit & it does tell me about the update. I did HELP -> Check for Updates and it says there are no updates available. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: Anyway, if you 32bit SeaMonkey 2.13.2 doesn't notifiy you of the next update holler away. Or, you could back yours down to 2.13.1 and see if it is working now. I'll stick with 2.13.2 and see what happens with the next release. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: Maybe you're just an unlucky soul :-) First time I ever heard that explanation for a computer program! :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: Check to see what you have checked in: Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Software Install... Add-ons Allow websites to install add-ons and updates Automatically check for updates daily Seamonkey Automatically check for updates daily Firefox: Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Update Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them Automatically update Search Engines Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
NoOp wrote: Interesting... while checking out the above I went to: https://www.centos.org and on newly installed browsers (Firefox and SeaMonkey), I get: "www.centos.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided. (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)" However, on my SeaMonkey & Firefox's that I've had installed for years, I do not get this & the site connects just fine. Odd. I just installed Seamonkey 2.13.2 and Firefox 16.0.2 and it works correctly. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Rufus wrote: Another quick way to check/inspect your UA string (and/or to learn to build them for spoofing) is to navigate to this website: http://www.useragentstring.com/ Interesting information! Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: In the URL bar: about:config then enter useragent in the search bar and when mailnews.headers.showUserAgent appears, double click it to set it to true. Now when you view the headers View|Headers|Normal you will see: Subject: From: Date: Newsgroups: (if in newsgroups) or To: (if in email) User-Agent: Gary Thank you, Harmut and Gary. That does indeed work. Now, back to my original question: Why am I not informed of updates? I did notice that Firefox has the same problem. I went to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ to get Seamonkey 2.13.2 and noticed that the latest Firefox is 16.0.2, while I was running 15.0.1. Clicking on "About Firefox" and then "Check for updates" told me that I had the latest version. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
NoOp wrote: H ... I wonder if the NVIDIA drivers I was told to install on this list awhile back are the problem. Could be. What card & which driver? EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR Geforce 8600gt 256mb 128-bit gddr3 pci express x16 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.43.run I forget if you've tried this, but if not can you download the 64bit version, extract in a home folder (like you did with the 32bit) and './seamonkey' to see if it reacts the same? http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.13.2 <http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.13.2/contrib/seamonkey-2.13.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2> I downloaded the 64-bit version, extracted it in my home directory (without copying my plugins directory), and ran it. I was logged out as before. I then downloaded and installed the latest NVIDIA driver, NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60.run. Trying the 64-bit version again, it ran properly and I was not logged out. I then downloaded, installed, and tried the 32-bit version of 2.13.2 with success, even with copying my plugins directory to /usr/local/seamonkey. BTW: the README file shows that the 64bit version was actually built on CentOS: Interesting! Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
NoOp wrote: OK. 5.8 installed & running. Note that this is a 32bit version running in VirtalBox VM, so the graphics drivers are VB's. H ... I wonder if the NVIDIA drivers I was told to install on this list awhile back are the problem. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Java and Seamonkey?
Does it work again yet? If so, what does one link to one's plugins directory? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
NoOp wrote: Can you try just extracting to a home folder and running to see if it exhibits the same behavior? I extracted to my home directory and executed, cd seamonkey/ ./seamonkey` and was promptly logged out (my screen went immediately black and after a few seconds the X-Window System login screen was shown). Also, can you try in safe mode: ./seamonkey -safe-mode After logging back in, I executed, cd seamonkey/ ./seamonkey -safe-mode and was again promptly logged out. After logging back in, I even tried, cd seamonkey ./seamonkey --safe-mode in case that might be the syntax. The result, however, was the same. I was yet again promptly logged out. Something is wrong. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent (even with View|Headers|Normal). The only way I see to expand headers is View -> Headers -> All. Your comment implies there's another way. What is it? For your own UA: Help|About SeaMonkey or Help|Troubleshooting Information. Now that one I knew. Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Craig wrote: Daniel wrote: Hmmm!! Craig, I see you are posting with a "Linux i686 on x86_64" version of SM (and have been all along in this thread!), which, as you suggested, is the 32bit version! So I wonder where *I* got the "Linux x86_64" (that I posted above) from?? I wouldn't know the answer to that question. I do, however, have one of my own: How do you see I am posting with a "Linux i686 on x86_64"? I don't see any of that information from anyone in SM's newsreader. All the demonstrations of what x86_64 headers look like and where to get the x86_64 software missed the point: Where does one find the headers? They are not visible in SM's newsreader. It occurred to me, why I do not know, to type control-U. Lo and behold! There, in the text window that control-U brought up, are the headers, including one line that begins User-Agent:. That line has the information about which I was asking. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Daniel wrote: Hmmm!! Craig, I see you are posting with a "Linux i686 on x86_64" version of SM (and have been all along in this thread!), which, as you suggested, is the 32bit version! So I wonder where *I* got the "Linux x86_64" (that I posted above) from?? I wouldn't know the answer to that question. I do, however, have one of my own: How do you see I am posting with a "Linux i686 on x86_64"? I don't see any of that information from anyone in SM's newsreader. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Content Encoding Error? What's that?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I suggest you first try viewing the page with SeaMonkey launched in safe mode. If that works, then launch regular and try viewing the page with all extensions disabled; repeat the viewing as you enable your extensions one at a time. Curiouser and curiouser. The page loaded fine without extensions, loaded fine with my first extension, loaded fine with my second extension, loaded fine with all my extensions. I cleared the cache and all cookies before each new attempt. Having reenabled all my extensions, I paged through the images by hitting the site's "Next," button, and it worked fine, until I got to the 20th image, which provoked the original error. Transmission problem (garbled packet, etc.)? I have found many websites where sometimes things load incorrectly in Seamonkey, but most of the time they load correctly. I have found that doing a -reload usually solves the problems. I don't know what causes it and it is annoying, but the solution works. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Daniel wrote: Craig wrote: Daniel wrote: Craig, I see you are using Linux x86_64. The SeaMonkey Council does not produce a Linux 64bit releaseyet. They do, eventually, provide a "contributed" version, but this could take a couple of days extra. I believe, in the future, they will provide an "approved" versioneventually! Keep checking. I am, however, using a 32-bit version of 2.12.1. Should that not check for a newer 32-bit version? Craig Owww! Good question!! Sorry, I don't know the answer, but I would suggest that it should! That's what I thought, too. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
Daniel wrote: Craig, I see you are using Linux x86_64. The SeaMonkey Council does not produce a Linux 64bit releaseyet. They do, eventually, provide a "contributed" version, but this could take a couple of days extra. I believe, in the future, they will provide an "approved" versioneventually! Keep checking. I am, however, using a 32-bit version of 2.12.1. Should that not check for a newer 32-bit version? Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
NoOp wrote: Your 2.12.1 SeaMonkey is 64bit. Actually, it's not: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 It's the 32-bit i686 version. Did you download and install the 32bit version of 2.13.1 by mistake? No, I intentionally downloaded it, as I have all my previous versions. How/where did you "install" it? Note: I typically run SeaMonkey in a home folder... the "install" consists of extracting the bz2 file. After checking the SHA1SUM, I executed: su - cd /usr/local mv seamonkey seamonkey.old tar -xf cp -a seamonkey.old/plugins seamonkey BTW, ls -o seamonkey/plugins gives, total 34312 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 17410532 Sep 18 21:42 libflashplayer.so -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 17410532 Aug 10 19:45 libflashplayer.so.bak lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 37 Oct 16 21:22 libnpjp2.so -> /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root62618 Nov 17 2010 nphelix.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5086 Nov 17 2010 nphelix.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 179552 Mar 28 2012 nppdf.so Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out
So I see the information on SM 2.13.1 being released, go to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ and download it, checked the SHA1SUM, and installed it. Now, every time I run SM I am logged out of my CentOS 5.8 system. What's up with that? I had to downgrade back to 2.12.1 to be able to post this message. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Still not informed of updates
Seeing the postings about SM 2.13.1, I did an update check with my running 2.12.1 and got a window that said there were no updates. Why is that? Why am I not informed of updates when they come out? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Not informed of updates
I have been running Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11. Today in reading this newsgroup, I noticed mention of 2.12.1. I went to the Help pull-down on the menu bar and then selected "Check for Updates." The window that came up said "There are no updates available. Seamonkey will check periodically for updates." http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/ shows a 2.12.1 directory and I am currently downloading the tarball. In addition, I find the same result with Firefox. I run Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1. Going to "Help", selecting "About Firefox", and clicking on "Check for Updates" says, "Firefox is up to date. You are currently on the release update channel." But if I go to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/, I see a directory for 15.0.1. Why are my browsers not telling me about updates? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I run Java with Seamonkey 2.11?
Craig wrote: Is there some way to get Java to work with SeaMonkey? After reading the Release Notes, I can answer my own question: Linux: The Java 7 plugin does not work with SeaMonkey (bug 754622). Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can I run Java with Seamonkey 2.11?
I'm using CentOS 5.8 Linux. I was running Java 1.6 Update 31 on SeaMonkey 2.10 because Java 1.7 didn't play nice with SeaMonkey. Yesterday, SeaMonkey 2.10 told me that it was going to disable Java because version 1.6 U 31 caused stability or security problems. Today, I updated to SeaMonkey 2.11 and Java 1.7 Update 5. When I restart SeaMonkey, Java does not appear in the list of plugins. My /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins directory contains the following: total 17284 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 17410532 Aug 10 19:45 libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 37 Aug 15 15:00 libnpjp2.so -> /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root62618 Nov 17 2010 nphelix.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5086 Nov 17 2010 nphelix.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 179552 Mar 28 04:47 nppdf.so Do I have the right Java file linked to the plugins directory? Is there some way to get Java to work with SeaMonkey? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java in Seamonkey 2.10?
NoOp wrote: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622 ([linux] Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 does not work in SeaMonkey) I read the bug, saw the command $ java -version so I tried it. My results are, $ java -version java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) Which is really odd, since $ lo /usr/java total 4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Dec 27 2010 default -> /usr/java/latest drwxr-xr-x 6 root 4096 Jun 6 21:22 jre1.7.0_04 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 21 Jun 6 21:22 latest -> /usr/java/jre1.7.0_04 and $ rpm -qva | grep -i jre jre-1.7.0_04-fcs BTW, the version of Java I downloaded and installed is supposed to be 32-bit (jre-7u4-linux-i586.rpm). But the question remains, why does Firefox work and Seamonkey does not. Thanks for the help, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java in Seamonkey 2.10?
NoOp wrote: Use openjdk; SeaMonkey doesn't work with java 1.7.x: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622 ([linux] Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 does not work in SeaMonkey) OK. But it seems odd that Firefox does work with java 1.7.x and Seamonkey does not. I'll look for openjdk and download it tomorrow. It's time to go to bed now. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleting cookies
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Craig wrote: Craig wrote: I find the process to edit cookies very difficult now. What happened to the "Delete All Cookies" button? While looking for the highlighting checkbox, I found it. One might expect it to be on the window Privacy & Security --> Cookies, but one would be wrong. It's on the window Privacy & Security. It's under the private data that's cleared by the "Clear Now" button. One has to have the "Cookies" box checked. Or else you can set SM to accept only session cookies. Then whenever you restart SM, all cookies are cleared. I have always had SM set to "Accept for current session only". That setting does not work. (And, I just realized, I should perhaps have complained about that instead of not being able to find the "Delete All Cookies" button.) Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Java in Seamonkey 2.10?
Seeing that Seamonkey 2.10 had been released, I downloaded it and Firefox 13.0. After I installed both, I started Seamonkey and went to the page http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/. At that page, I found my Java was out of date. I downloaded the new version (jre-7u4-linux-i586.rpm) and installed it. I then went to the Seamonkey and Firefox install directories and executed mkdir plugins in each. I changed to the plugins directory for Seamonkey and executed, ln -s /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so . I changed to the plugins directory for Firefox and again executed, ln -s /usr/java/latest/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so . When I started Firefox and went to the page, http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp and verified Firefox's Java installation, it passed. When I started Seamonkey and went to the page, http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp and verified Seamonkey's Java installation, it failed. When I went back to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/, it now tells me, For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. I thought I just did that. What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleting cookies
Craig wrote: I find the process to edit cookies very difficult now. What happened to the "Delete All Cookies" button? While looking for the highlighting checkbox, I found it. One might expect it to be on the window Privacy & Security --> Cookies, but one would be wrong. It's on the window Privacy & Security. It's under the private data that's cleared by the "Clear Now" button. One has to have the "Cookies" box checked. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.10 released
Hartmut Figge wrote: Craig: Jens Hatlak wrote: * The domain name is highlighted in the location bar by default now, configurable in Preferences Where? I looked and could not find it. 'Highlight...' under Formatting http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120607.png Hartmut Yup, there it is. I must need to clean my glasses! :-) Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.10 released
Jens Hatlak wrote: * The domain name is highlighted in the location bar by default now, configurable in Preferences Where? I looked and could not find it. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Deleting cookies
I find the process to edit cookies very difficult now. What happened to the "Delete All Cookies" button? Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering
NoOp wrote: I like those prices better than the San Franciso prices :-) Indeed! With Opera running at the same time& both browsers on the same page, Opera register about 0.3 cpu& about 12% memory: However... I can easily get Opera up to 41/12: simply by scrolling through the 9 photos here: <http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10360-Ritts-Mill-Rd-Shingletown-CA-96088/69815673_zpid/> OK, but that's not what I spend most of the time doing. On another note, the graphics driver update has made Google Maps work MUCH more quickly -- it's even usable now! :-) Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 14/05/2012 23:01, Craig told the world: If I go to a graphics intensive site like maps.google.com or www.zillow.com, Seamonkey saturates one of my processor's cores and it becomes very slow to respond. Specifically, on maps.google.com, changing from the map display to the satellite display is painfully slow. Zillow just saturates one of my processor's cores most of the time. Is there any fix for this? You might attempt to update your video drivers. Mozilla products are known to block hardware acceleration on older video drivers due to stability reasons. I went to nvidia.com and downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.49.run, the latest non-beta driver for my GeForce 8600GT they have. After doing an init 3 and installing the driver (with their libraries) I have found: - If I go to http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/829-Folsom-Street-414-San-Francisco-CA-94107/2120805344_zpid/ with Flash disabled as NoOp suggested, after an initial processor load for loading the graphics, my processor load is low. It is, however, higher than displaying the Add-ons Manager tab. With the Add-ons Manager tab displayed, the only thing that shows up regularly in top is top itself, at a %CPU of 0.0, 2.4, or 4.9. With the Folsom Street visible, seamonkey-bin shows up regularly at a $CPU of 12.2 and occasionally 14.9 and 17.1. - If I go to Zillow's page for showing a map of an area, http://www.zillow.com/homes/shingletown,-ca_rb/ , for example, the processor load goes up noticably. Now seamonkey-bin's load varies between 35% and 80%, with Xorg varying complementarily to make up close to 100%. So, where I spend most of my time on Zillow, looking at the map of an area, is still not improved. And I don't need to minimize a window; all I need to do is go to another tab. The results with Flash turned on are essentially the same as it off. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering
NoOp wrote: Perhaps it's a flash issue? <http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/829-Folsom-Street-414-San-Francisco-CA-94107/2120805344_zpid/> Further, I've been running this 2.9.1 SM all day w/2 windows& 15 browsing tabs, standard email window + 3 nntp windows open. So it might be worthwhile to explore other issues with your system/graphics? ... I disabled Flash in both Firefox and Seamonkey. At first, I thought that had fixed the problem in Firefox, switching between map and satellite in maps.google.com, but then it started acting up. In Seamonkey, I opened your link above. The system monitor showed that one of the cores was saturated. I ran top like you did and found Seamonkey's usage was around 14%, but Xorg's usage was 80% or so. Minimizing Seamonkey's window drops the CPU usage down to nil; unminimizing it again saturates a core. Opera has no visible effect either minimized or unminimized; the CPU usage is nil in both conditions. What does this tell me? BTW, I'm running CentOS 5.6 on an ASUS M4785TD-M EVO with an AMD 605e processor with 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Painfully slow graphics rendering
I have used Mozilla browsers on Linux since Netscape Navigator. I'm currently using Seamonkey 2.9.1, but I have noticed this problem for many versions. If I go to a graphics intensive site like maps.google.com or www.zillow.com, Seamonkey saturates one of my processor's cores and it becomes very slow to respond. Specifically, on maps.google.com, changing from the map display to the satellite display is painfully slow. Zillow just saturates one of my processor's cores most of the time. I thought it might be a problem with Seamonkey, so I tried Firefox. Same results. I recalled Netscape 4.79 not having the problem, but I don't have the correct libraries to run it. I tried Opera 11.64 this afternoon and it does NOT have the problem. Apparently the code that does the graphics for Seamonkey/Firefox assumes one has a super-humongous gaming graphics card. I do not. I have an EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR Geforce 8600gt 256mb 128-bit, which isn't the slowest card on the market. Its specs are: Manufacturer:nVidia Series:GeForce 8 GPU:G84 Release Date:2007-04-17 Interface:PCI-E x16 Core Clock:540 MHz Shader Clock:1180 MHz Memory Clock:700 MHz (1400 DDR) Memory Bandwidth:22.4 GB/sec FLOPS:113.28 GFLOPS Pixel Fill Rate:4320 MPixels/sec Texture Fill Rate:8640 MTexels/sec The performance I am seeing is not acceptable. I like Seamonkey, particularly the way NoScript integrates with it. I'd rather not use Opera. Is there any fix for this? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More questions about SM 2.1
chokito wrote: > 1. Change "Prefereces - Browser - Tabbed Browsing - Open related tabs > after current tab" NoOp wrote: Preferences|Browser|Tabbed Browsing| tick: x Switch to new tabs opened from links x Middle-click, Ctrl+click... x Ctrl+Enter... Thank you both; that's the solution! 2. When I close down SM, it brings up the Acrobat Reader Splash Window, like it's briefly starting Acrobat Reader. Why is that? No clue. I never use the AR extension& turn it off by default. I prefer to have my AR run independent of the browser. I prefer to have PDFs opened up in Acrobat Reader, not SeaMonkey, as well. Which is why the plugin is disabled in my setup. Seems strange. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
More questions about SM 2.1
Having gotten over most of my growing pains with the switch from 2.0.14 to 2.1 on my Linux box, I do have a couple of questions: 1. If I have several web browser tabs open, when I click on the "Open a new tab" button next to the left-most tab, the new tab is always opened at the extreme right of the existing tabs, regardless of which tab I am viewing. On the other hand, if I middle-click a link in one of the tabs, the new tab is opened to the right of the tab with the link and always right next to it. Middle-clicking a second link on the same tab opens a new tab to the right of the tab with the link, but to the left of the tab opened by the first middle-clicked link. Why this difference in behavior, and how can I make it work like it used to (always opening a new tab to the extreme right of the existing tabs)? 2. When I close down SM, it brings up the Acrobat Reader Splash Window, like it's briefly starting Acrobat Reader. Why is that? Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Growing pains with Seamonkey 2.1
Jens Hatlak wrote: Craig wrote: I know there must be a setting someplace, but I cannot find it (and I even checked the FAQ this time). The answer that Herrmann gave (thanks!) is now part of the FAQ, too. HTH Jens Thank you, Jens, for keeping up the FAQ. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Growing pains with Seamonkey 2.1
Herrmann Hofer wrote: Craig wrote: 2. In going to other pages, I have gotten a warning bar about re-directing. I clicked allow there and it didn't happen again. I know there must be a setting someplace, but I cannot find it (and I even checked the FAQ this time). Appearance -> Content -> Warn me when web sites try to redirect...> Hope this helps It works! It works! Somehow I saw it when I first set up SeaMonkey 2.1 and thought it might be helpful. Then, when I went back to correct it, I didn't see it when I looked at the Content tab. I looked more carefully at the Privacy & Security and Advanced settings, thinking it should be there, but of course it wasn't. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Growing pains with Seamonkey 2.1
Now that I have gotten my bookmarks situation straightened out, I've run into a couple more problems: 1. In going to to some pages, I get a warning bar at the top of the window that says, "SeaMonkey prevented this page from automatically reloading." I click the Allow button, but after going away, the warning bar comes back saying the same thing. 2. In going to other pages, I have gotten a warning bar about re-directing. I clicked allow there and it didn't happen again. I know there must be a setting someplace, but I cannot find it (and I even checked the FAQ this time). Any suggestions? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks?
WLS wrote: Craig wrote: Also from https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/2.1/FAQ#Bookmarks, The bookmarks.html file is not updated anymore. What can I do? You can go to about:config and toggle the browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML pref to true. Then bookmarks.html will be written each time you exit SeaMonkey. Or you can do it manually using Tools/Export HTML from the Bookmarks Manager. Craig Or you could just Backup your bookmarks places.sqlite file using Bookmarks Manager > Tools > Backup. I backup to a USB stick after most additions. Yes, true, but then I could not compare the bookmarks.html files from different computers with the shell script that I wrote in May, 2000, and have updated since. And no, I don't want to use Sync and put my bookmark information on someone else's computer. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Craig wrote: For years I have been used to having bookmarks.html be the file where my bookmarks are kept, but in Seamonkey 2.1, it's apparently been changed. How do bookmarks work now? They are stored in a file called places.sqlite, which is a database that also keeps your browsing history. Aha! Why was it changed? From <https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/2.1/FAQ#Bookmarks>: What are the benefits of Places-based bookmarks? Bookmarks are stored in a database now, together with your browsing history. This allows for better integration (Sync, the Location Bar and add-ons), automatic backups and the possibility to restore them, saving favicons with your bookmarks, and the ability to define tags. HTH It does, thanks. Also from https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/2.1/FAQ#Bookmarks, The bookmarks.html file is not updated anymore. What can I do? You can go to about:config and toggle the browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML pref to true. Then bookmarks.html will be written each time you exit SeaMonkey. Or you can do it manually using Tools/Export HTML from the Bookmarks Manager. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bookmarks?
For years I have been used to having bookmarks.html be the file where my bookmarks are kept, but in Seamonkey 2.1, it's apparently been changed. How do bookmarks work now? Why was it changed? Thanks, Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
On 10/27/2009 07:37 AM, Fred wrote: Robert Kaiser skriver: Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today Oops, forgot another followup-to, please reply only to mozilla.support.seamonkey! Robert Kaiser Robert and the volunteers that made this possible cannot be thanked too much! Agreed. Thank you Robert & all the other contributors to SeaMonkey! -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?
On 10/25/2009 05:59 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: - just meet me at the usual place, the Karaoke bar :) Ah! Perhaps a paypal account for a singing instructor? enjoy, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?
On 10/24/2009 12:33 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Craig wrote: Sorry if this info is self-evident but I looked in 2.0 RC's release notes, and elsewhere, and came up dry. Is the gloda search engine a part of Seamonkey 2.0? gloda is a database backend that allows indexing of messages, it's not a search engine. Thanks for the correction. Apart from that, the backend itself does exist in SeaMonkey 2.0 but it's not enabled and there is no interface for using it - all that would be possible to provide with an add-on, if someone wants to write it, though. Good news, thx again. Robert Kaiser Btw, how was the release party? Any embarrassing photos? I would've loved to drop by but I found myself on the wrong continent... regards, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?
Sorry if this info is self-evident but I looked in 2.0 RC's release notes, and elsewhere, and came up dry. Is the gloda search engine a part of Seamonkey 2.0? tia, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: migrate from tbird3b2+lighting to SM2b2+lightning?
On 09/29/2009 04:48 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Craig wrote: Can someone outline how & whether this is doable? It is doable for sure, the profile data should be compatible, and IIRC, most of the data should probably be able to be imported with SeaMonkey's migration feature. Robert Kaiser Thanks Robert & Philip. I expect to do this on at least one box in the next week or two. When I do, I'll post back. best, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
migrate from tbird3b2+lighting to SM2b2+lightning?
Howdy; Can someone outline how & whether this is doable? I'd like for us to move our boxen back to SM but haven't found anywhere that treats what the steps might be... potential pitfalls... etc. Any guidance appreciated. We have a few linux boxen loaded with: - Ubuntu 8.04 or 9.04 - TBird 3 Beta(2 or 4) with Lightning 1.0pre nightlies - Firefox 3.014 thx, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
