from:"Larry"


David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/28/2017 11:20 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Turned on the computer this morning. At first all seemed normal, but
when the notice of new e-mails came up it had changed to a tiny type
face. Found that the tool bars on the top of the screen, and all e-mail
screens, had changed. However, the content of opened messages had not
changed, nor had anything else in SM.

What the heck happened? Any ideas about the cause or a solution? All
ideas gratefully accepted.

Larry S.

Hmm . . .  Searched the 'Net which led to the add-on "Theme Font and
Size Changer". Seems to have solved the problem.



I strongly suspect that the latest version of the Theme Fpon & Size
Changer extension (version 51.0) will expire on 30 March 2017.  On that
date, the tool bar icon for the extension will disappear; and certain
settings made through the extension will be negated.

This has been an ongoing problem with this one extension.  No one seems
to understand why the developer is doing this, but it is very annoying.

If you want a non-expiring version, see my
<http://www.rossde.com/ThemeFontSizeChangerNoexpire/index.html>.

Sounds interesting. How do I open the xpi file that is downloaded (i.e. 
install the program)?

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Re: Sudden Change To Tiny Font (Solved)


Larry S. wrote:

Turned on the computer this morning. At first all seemed normal, but
when the notice of new e-mails came up it had changed to a tiny type
face. Found that the tool bars on the top of the screen, and all e-mail
screens, had changed. However, the content of opened messages had not
changed, nor had anything else in SM.

What the heck happened? Any ideas about the cause or a solution? All
ideas gratefully accepted.

Larry S.
Hmm . . .  Searched the 'Net which led to the add-on "Theme Font and 
Size Changer". Seems to have solved the problem.

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Re: Sudden Change To Tiny Font


Felix Miata wrote:

Larry S. composed on 2017-02-28 10:17 (UTC-0500):


Turned on the computer this morning. At first all seemed normal, but
when the notice of new e-mails came up it had changed to a tiny type
face. Found that the tool bars on the top of the screen, and all e-mail
screens, had changed. However, the content of opened messages had not
changed, nor had anything else in SM.



What the heck happened? Any ideas about the cause or a solution? All
ideas gratefully accepted.


Using the SM from which you typed this message?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
SeaMonkey/2.46

Or, is it on a Linux PC that just got some updates? If so, which Linux
distro and version, and using which WM or DE? What DPI and screen
resolution are reported if you load
http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html in SeaMonkey?

Using the SM from which you typed this message? Yes.
It's 96 DPI and default font size 16px. Don't see anything that says 
"screen resolution".
Note that the content of messages, sent and received, do not have the 
tiny font.

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Sudden Change To Tiny Font

Turned on the computer this morning. At first all seemed normal, but 
when the notice of new e-mails came up it had changed to a tiny type 
face. Found that the tool bars on the top of the screen, and all e-mail 
screens, had changed. However, the content of opened messages had not 
changed, nor had anything else in SM.


What the heck happened? Any ideas about the cause or a solution? All 
ideas gratefully accepted.


Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

2017-02-13 Thread Larry S.


Larry S. wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.



How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund


Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able
to start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but
unused, for 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our
mystery.

Perplexing!

Larry S.
Thank you for the suggestions. Unfortunately, we did the disc check and 
turned off the A-V; neither one made any difference.


Can't start in safe mode unless we can at least get SM to open.

Oh, Well . . . She has defaulted to getting her e-mail through Windows 
10 Mail, which has loads of problems but at least downloads her mail.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start

2017-02-10 Thread Larry S.


Edmund Wong wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.



How is your wife starting SeaMonkey?  via a shortcut on the desktop
or directly from the Program Files folder?

I don't know if you've tried this; but, go directly into the
folder where SeaMonkey was installed and run the exe directly.

Edmund

Tried it both ways--no difference. Odd thing, though--She has been able 
to start SM twice, both time after the computer sat, turned on but 
unused, for 8-10 hours! However, thank you for being interested in our 
mystery.


Perplexing!

Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)


Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.

O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe mode.
Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't matter if "End Task"
is used but still won't open. Note that it shows memory usage, but not processor
or HD usage.


Just to clarify, I assume that it shows memory usage BEFORE "End Task" is used
but after "End Task" is used, the program is completely gone from Task Manager?


All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me we'll wind
up using Edge!

Larry S.



As to your clarify, yes, gone after TM but memory usage before.

Here's the odd thing. Once again, if the laptop sits for hours, unused 
but turned on, sometimes SM will start. Not predictable, though, so not 
reproducible. We're totally confused!

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start


Ed Mullen wrote:

On 2/9/2017 at 8:56 AM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off with great
aplomb:

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk
when you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite
being in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part
of the normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.

HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That
would be a nice clue.

Won't start doesn't tell us much.



parent.lock in Windows. And it no longer is deleted. It survies shutting
down the program. Been that way for many versions.


O.K. deleted parent.lock in all three profiles (not sure which one is 
used by new installation). Yes, we shut down the program first (Task 
Manger). Still won't start.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Third Update (Still Nothing)


Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
O.K., we've tried several things as suggested. It won't open in safe 
mode. Reinstalled it--still won't open. In Task Manager, doesn't matter 
if "End Task" is used but still won't open. Note that it shows memory 
usage, but not processor or HD usage.


All other programs still work (including Edge); please don't tell me 
we'll wind up using Edge!


Larry S.
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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start


WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/09/2017 04:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2017 2:51 AM, Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no
luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Larry, back in the dim, dark days (may have even been Mozilla Suite or
Netscape Suite), there was a file that got written to your harddisk
when you started the Suite. This was to stop two sessions of the Suite
being in operation at the same time. This file then got erased as part
of the normal Suite shutdown process.

However, if, for some reason, the computer/program crashed, this file
didn't get erased so, when you tried to re-start the Suite, it was a
no-go, because the Suite thought there was already a copy of the Suite
running.

Your mentioning that it still appeared on the task manager makes me
think this could be your situation!!

If this system still applies, maybe someone will remember what that
marker program was called, and tell you, so that you can delete it.

HTH



That's called .parentlock, found in the profile.

Shouldn't she have seen the SeaMonkey is already running message? That
would be a nice clue.

Won't start doesn't tell us much.

Normally she would have seen the message--is familiar with it--but this 
time no message. Yes, it doesn't tell us much either. Clicking on the 
icon (or the exe file)just simply doesn't give any response. Nothing.


She was able to get SM to start--once--after letting the computer just 
sit there, doing nothing, for hours. But not again.

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--2nd Update

2017-02-08 Thread Larry S.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which Antivirus is she running?

Microsoft just rolled out the anniversary update to users of Windows
TH2. Had to block it in the vm because this version is just so much
garbage. If this qot installed it might have damaged or disabled
SeaMonkey but this is a full Windows install and you or she should have
noticed.

FRG

Larry S. wrote:


My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on
task manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it
still wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of
programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.


Unusual observation--all (every one) of the programs and services in 
Task Manger are running. Maybe I'm obsolete, but I'm used to many 
running but some not. Is this odd? A clue?

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Re: Sea Monkey Won't Start--Update

2017-02-08 Thread Larry S.


Larry S. wrote:

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing.
Her other programs work perfectly.

She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.

Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
Under SM Properties, her computer shows a change yesterday. Was there a 
change? I didn't see it, but I'm on windows 7.  This is puzzling--she 
was using SM earlier this morning, but later couldn't get it to start 
again. Also, the anti-virus shows nothing.


The a-v is Zone Alarm. Re FRG's message, what are TH2 and vm?

Larry S.
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Sea Monkey Won't Start

2017-02-08 Thread Larry S.

My wife has SM 2.46 on a Dell laptop using Windows 10. Yesterday it 
worked just fine. Today it won't start. No mail, no browser, nothing. 
Her other programs work perfectly.


She has restarted the computer at least three times. She checked on task 
manager--one time it showed, and she stopped it (although it still 
wouldn't start). She tried to start it from the list of programs; no luck.


Any suggestions or ideas? We'd be very appreciative.

Larry S.
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Re: I THINK I FOUND THE WAY - Re: How to set DEFAULT zoom level

2017-01-26 Thread Larry S.


me wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

me wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Once more with complete instructions.
Use Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Content.

Under *Zoom Options*, set "Range from" to 133 and "to" also at 133.

Enable the other options in that section as you prefer. The options are:

"Zoom only text instead of full pages"
"Remember zoom levels on a per-site basis"
"Resize large images to fit in the browser window"

Click "Close".

Restart the browser.



Those options are not present in that place in 2.40.


Huh? What are you looking at? Or where?
Larry S.

I was looking at 2.40, on linux. There is no zoom range. However on 2.49
on linux there is. I haven't checked, I am assuming these options were
added after 2.40. What version are you using?


Sorry--using 2.46.
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Re: I THINK I FOUND THE WAY - Re: How to set DEFAULT zoom level

2017-01-26 Thread Larry S.


me wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Once more with complete instructions.
Use Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Content.

Under *Zoom Options*, set "Range from" to 133 and "to" also at 133.

Enable the other options in that section as you prefer. The options are:

"Zoom only text instead of full pages"
"Remember zoom levels on a per-site basis"
"Resize large images to fit in the browser window"

Click "Close".

Restart the browser.



Those options are not present in that place in 2.40.


Huh? What are you looking at? Or where?
Larry S.
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Re: How to set DEFAULT zoom level

2017-01-25 Thread Larry S.


Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/25/2017 08:44 AM, me wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I've just changed laptops. The CRITICAL difference is the change
FROM a 4:3 aspect ratio TO 16:9.
I can properly display web sites if I *set ZOOM to 130%.
I can find settings for min and max zoom in about:config.

I wish to *FORCE DEFAULT ZOOM* to 133%.
How?


Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Zoom options -> Range From To.


There is NO "Zoom options" under "Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance" in
SeaMonkey 2.40 under either Windows or Linux.


"Me" left out one step--Appearance>*Content*>Zoom Options.

Larry S.






Except it doesn't always default, sometimes you have to press ctrl-zero,
like when viewing RSS feeds.



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Re: Inflated Size Of Profile?

2017-01-11 Thread Larry S.


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Been getting slow response recently from SM--rotating circle for a while
until selected item comes in (mail and browser, but especially mail). I
see a couple of large items in my profile--places and webappsstore
sqlite files.


How large is "large"? My places.sqlite is 20MB, and webappsstore.sqlite
is 96KB.

I think webappsstore is used for "Offline Storage", which I've disabled
at Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Offline Apps and is probably why that
one's so small for me. I guess it might be worth trying to clear offline
storage data for websites which you don't need it (at the same
preferences page) and then setting it to only allow specific sites.


Also, I have DOM inspector and Javascript debugger both disabled,and
never use them.

Could (should)I delete any of these files? Would doing so create any
problems for me? Other thoughts about the slow response?


I don't expect removing the DOM Inspector and Javascript Debugger
extensions would make much difference, particularly as they're disabled.
The Javascript Debugger which used to be included in a default
installation of SeaMonkey isn't compatible with recent versions of
SeaMonkey (2.29 on I believe), so you may as well remove it. DOM
Inspector is still usually [1] included; you should be able to remove it
if you don't use or want it, but I doubt doing so will help much with
general responsiveness since it's already disabled.

[1] Not in 2.46 due to build issues, although it can be installed
separately and you've probably already got it from a previous version of
SeaMonkey.

My "places" is 51Mb and "webappstore" is 9Mb. I looked into off-line 
storage, and it shows 0 (I cleared it anyhow, just in case, but nothing 
happened). Thus I suspect that the "webappstore" isn't, in fact, 
something to do with off-line activity. Oh, well, still not finding the 
problem.


Larry S.
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Re: Inflated Size Of Profile?

2017-01-04 Thread Larry S.


David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/2/2017 9:40 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Been getting slow response recently from SM--rotating circle for a while
until selected item comes in (mail and browser, but especially mail). I
see a couple of large items in my profile--places and webappsstore
sqlite files.

Also, I have DOM inspector and Javascript debugger both disabled,and
never use them.

Could (should)I delete any of these files? Would doing so create any
problems for me? Other thoughts about the slow response?

All advice gratefully appreciated.

Larry S.



Most .sqlite files (which are actually databases) are likely important.
They include not only cookies (which you might not want) but also your
bookmarks, information on extensions you installed, and permissions you
have granted or prohibited.

The problem with .sqlite databases is that, when entries are removed,
the spaces for the removed entries remain.  Also, Mozilla in its
"wisdom" (??) causes some .sqlite databases to be initialized for more
entries than are necessary.

You might try SpeedyFox from <http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox>.
This application removes empty spaces and otherwise cleans up .sqlite
databases.  It works not only for SeaMonkey but also for Firefox,
Thunderbird, Skype, and any other application that uses the SQLite
database application.  To use SpeedyFox after you install it, select
SpeedyFox from its menu bar and add the various profiles you want cleaned.

SpeedyFox sounds good. However, when I try to download it I get the 
message "The download cannot be saved because an unknown error 
occurred". This has happened numerous times.

Any suggestions?
Larry S.
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Re: Limit On Size Of Message List?

2017-01-02 Thread Larry S.


Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:13:01 -0500, Larry S. wrote:


When attempting to download messages, or even just clicking in the
message pane, I sometimes get long delays with the rotating circle
showing. A couple of times I noticed that the message count in the list
(left-hand pane) jumps to over 100,000, when it's normally under 500.

I recall that at one time I could set a limit for that number; I used
1,000. Now I can't find where to set that. Do I recall incorrectly, or
is it missing since my upgrade to 2.46?

All suggestions gratefully accepted.

Larry S.



Edit >> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings >> (*select account*) >>
Server Settings
[x] Ask me before downloading more than [ 500 ] messages


Thank you, Ralph! That was the one. The mind keeps getting older, so 
much appreciated.

Larry S.
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Inflated Size Of Profile?

2017-01-02 Thread Larry S.

Been getting slow response recently from SM--rotating circle for a while 
until selected item comes in (mail and browser, but especially mail). I 
see a couple of large items in my profile--places and webappsstore 
sqlite files.


Also, I have DOM inspector and Javascript debugger both disabled,and 
never use them.


Could (should)I delete any of these files? Would doing so create any 
problems for me? Other thoughts about the slow response?


All advice gratefully appreciated.

Larry S.
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Limit On Size Of Message List?

2017-01-02 Thread Larry S.

When attempting to download messages, or even just clicking in the 
message pane, I sometimes get long delays with the rotating circle 
showing. A couple of times I noticed that the message count in the list 
(left-hand pane) jumps to over 100,000, when it's normally under 500.


I recall that at one time I could set a limit for that number; I used 
1,000. Now I can't find where to set that. Do I recall incorrectly, or 
is it missing since my upgrade to 2.46?


All suggestions gratefully accepted.

Larry S.
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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

2016-11-18 Thread Larry S.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Submitting telemetry data is disabled by default in SeaMonkey. Telemetry
itself is so woven into the gecko engine that you will see fragments of
it even when disabled. But no data is transmitted.

What I meant with crashing the browser is the Windows telemetry which
came standard with Windows 10 and is now rolled out by Microsoft for 7
and 8.1 users. It can not be disabled but you can uninstall it.
Microsoft makes it harder every month to get rid if it. For Windows 7
they pushed it with a normal security update KB3197868. You need to
deinstall this one and install KB3197867 to get rid of it. If you have a
windows\systen32\diagtrack.dll your are infected by it. Slows down the
PC especially during logon and transmits sensitive data to MS.

FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 17-11-16 19:56:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Works fine fro me in x86 and x64 with 2.46 and 2.47. The latest Windows
7 update includes telemetry by default and I have seen at least one
report were this crashed the browser. Monst/any problems you will have
with SeaMonkey you will likely also have with Firefox. Same Engine.


You can disable telemetry.  In about:config, set
"toolkit.telemetry.enabled" to false.


I have this option set by default to false ... but someone could
explain me what is the following option ?
toolkit.telemetry.previousBuildID "user set" "string" 20140203230027


So how do I get KB3197867? In Windows Update Catalog I get a brief flash 
of the content, then "There is a problem with this site" (or 
equivalent). No way to get at the download.


Advice greatly appreciated.

Larry S.
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Re: Unexpected Plugin

2016-11-02 Thread Larry S.


Lee wrote:

On 11/2/16, Larry S.  wrote:

Just noticed a "new" plugin in the Add-Ons Manager. It's called the
"Active Touch General Plugin Container", and the associated information
says it was "updated" (probably installed) on Thursday of last week.

I know there is something called Plugin Container in the SM software
somewhere, but have no idea what this one is or where it came from. I
definitely don't recall asking for it.

Any ideas or suggestions? Can I get rid of it? Or should I do something
else with it?

All suggestions gratefully accepted.


Have you used webex?

https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/mozilla.support.firefox/jMbGt_SkI_U#!topic/mozilla.support.firefox/jMbGt_SkI_U
says it's a webex plugin.  I've got it installed in both SM & FF, but
set to never activate in SM since I only use webex in FF.

Lee

Yes, I recently used WebEx. Not likely to do so again (it was a one-time 
event). That seems to be the source. The plugin doesn't appear  in the 
Control Panel, but WebEx does. That's apparently how I'd get rid of it.


In the meantime, I have it set to Never Activate. If there's no bad 
effects in two weeks, I'll remove it using Control Panel as that should 
be harmless.


Thank  you for the information.
Larry


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Re: Unexpected Plugin

2016-11-02 Thread Larry S.


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/2/2016 9:53 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Just noticed a "new" plugin in the Add-Ons Manager. It's called the
"Active Touch General Plugin Container", and the associated information
says it was "updated" (probably installed) on Thursday of last week.

I know there is something called Plugin Container in the SM software
somewhere, but have no idea what this one is or where it came from. I
definitely don't recall asking for it.

Any ideas or suggestions? Can I get rid of it? Or should I do something
else with it?

All suggestions gratefully accepted.

Larry



Is it really a plugin?  Or is it an extension?  In either case, first
test what happens if it is disabled.  Go to [Tools > Add-ons Manager] on
the SeaMonkey menu bar.

If it is an extension, select Extensions on the left side of the Add-ons
Manager window.  On the Extensions pane, find the extension and select
the Disable button.

If it is a plugin, select Plugins on the left side of the Add-ons
Manager window.  On the Plugins pane, find the plugin and select the
pull-down menu to the right.  Select "Never Activate".

If you see nothing adverse over one or two weeks, it can be removed.

To remove an extension repeat the process of disabling it, but select
the Remove button for it.  No, you do not have to enable it before
removing it.

To remove a plugin, launch the Windows Control Panel and select Programs
and Features.  Find the plugin in the list of programs, right-click, and
select Uninstall.

I assumed it was a plugin, since it was listed with plugins in the 
Add-Ons Manager. However, it's not listed in the Programs and Features 
portion of the Control Panel. There is no Remove button with it.


I have marked it Never Activate, and we'll see.

Larry
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Unexpected Plugin

2016-11-02 Thread Larry S.

Just noticed a "new" plugin in the Add-Ons Manager. It's called the 
"Active Touch General Plugin Container", and the associated information 
says it was "updated" (probably installed) on Thursday of last week.


I know there is something called Plugin Container in the SM software 
somewhere, but have no idea what this one is or where it came from. I 
definitely don't recall asking for it.


Any ideas or suggestions? Can I get rid of it? Or should I do something 
else with it?


All suggestions gratefully accepted.

Larry
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Re: Seamonkey24.0 x Win 7

2016-08-03 Thread Larry

Harsha Godavari wrote:

- Original Message -

From: "Larry" <lwink...@hvc.rr.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:53:54 AM
Subject: Re: Seamonkey24.0 x Win 7

Harsha Godavari wrote:

How do you setup synchronisation with simultaneous deletion of the source?

harsha godavari

How many computers do you have connected to the same IMAP mail account?

Larry
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At present I have one computer running Win 7 . I am trying to use Seamonkey for 
both browsing and mail . As mentioned in previous posts I have been using the 
Webmail interface to read / reply my mail on the ISP's mailserver. My mail has 
piled up and the postmaster is after me to clear some space :-)
I would like to download all the mail (inbox/sent etc) to my computer and 
delete all mail on the ISP's server. The ISP recommends using IMAP rather than 
POP mail. I looked at the settings for mail in Seamonkey and the choices 
confuse me. I hate to make the wrong choices and loose all that data.

Under Mail & News groups Account settings -> copies & folders->
When sending messages place a copy Sent Folder [1] folder on xxx @ shaw.ca or 
[2] local folder

There are similar choices for message archives,drafts and templates but no 
mention of inbox .

Under Mail & News groups Account settings ->synchronization & space , there is a place to 
tick for "keep messages for this account on this computer" but nothing else .

So I am confused and concerned about messing things up :-)

regards
harsha godavari

I have 3 computers that I use for access to 1 IMAP account on 1&1 
Internet ISP and I love that they are synchronized so that what is 
deleted on one is deleted on all.  But, I do have the problem of running 
out of space on the server.  Deleting the Trash helps but every once in 
a while I have to clear out my Inbox.

Since you are using only 1 computer the easiest solution to "How do you 
setup synchronisation with simultaneous deletion of the source?" is to 
set up a POP mail account with your ISP in the mail client portion of 
Sea Monkey.

Initially, set up POP to read but Leave Mail on server.  Some eMails do 
not allow this, yahoo comes to mind.  Once you satisfy yourself that you 
can delete from the POP mail Inbox on your computer, etc. without 
deleting mail on your ISP's server and deleted mail from your ISP's 
server has no effect on what has already been downloaded to your 
computer you can set up POP mail to Delete Mail from the server as it is 
downloaded.

I have POP mail accounts set up on all 3 of my computers but they are 
not used and do not download until I am ready.  When my ISP complains I 
download into all POP accounts and then empty out my ISP IMAP Inbox and 
trash folder.  My choice is to empty out myself instead of letting the 
3rd POP mail account Delete Mail from the server as it is downloaded.

Also, use [1].  Could not find: "->synchronization & space ."

Hope this helps.

Larry

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Re: Seamonkey24.0 x Win 7

2016-08-03 Thread Larry


Harsha Godavari wrote:



- Original Message -

From: "Ed Mullen" <ejemo...@edmullen.net>



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How do you setup synchronisation with simultaneous deletion of the source?

regards
harsha godavari

- Original Message -



If a folder in SM is synched with the IMAP server and you delete an
email on the computer it will be deleted from the server.

There are various other settings in Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings -
Synchronizaton & Storage.

Ed Mullen


Ed:
I want to save the messages on my computer but delete them from the ISP's 
server.

regards
harsha godavari


How many computers do you have connected to the same IMAP mail account?

Larry
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Re: Windows 10 Conversion Questions

2016-07-19 Thread Larry S.


Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

So I must convert to W10 soon, or lose my "freebie". Since I've never
done that, and are a
computer amateur, I have questions.


For o/s questions you might want to ask on the w10 ng:
alt.comp.os.windows-10

Good luck to you.
There is no way I would ever upgrade from 7 to 10.


Considering that as well (I love W7). What would be a good plan to 
continue using W7 after the support runs out and there are no more 
security updates?

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Re: Chase bank site is excluding Seamonkey

2016-07-19 Thread Larry


NFN Smith wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 19/07/2016 00:59:

Ray_Net wrote:


So the best default User agent string could be:
: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38
same as Firefox/41.0

then it will be recognized as FF by the bad sniffing method and
recognized as SM by everybody.


You're thinking like a human being, silly!

Some sniffers reject a UA string that contains "SeaMonkey" even if it
also contains "Firefox." That's why the solution in this thread worked
-- because Chase's sniffer is that stupid. You have to pretend to be
Firefox AND pretend not to be SeaMonkey.


I just thinked that the sniffer will only use the last "word" which is
in this case "Firefox/41.0" instead of in the normal UAstring the last
"word" is "SeaMonkey/2.38"

So could be better to have the default string this:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 same
as Firefox/41.0
instead of this:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0
SeaMonkey/2.38

Is my idea a bad idea ?


If it works, it's good; if it doesn't, it's bad. Only a Chase customer
can tell us. I can't log in because I don't bank with them. My bank is
fine with SeaMonkey.



The idea is good, but it's essentially a twist on "advertise Firefox
compatibility". Depending on the sniffer, it _may_ work to change the
order, so that Firefox is last.  However, because Chase is committed to
brand name of browser, it looks like the presence of _anything_ in a UA
string that's not stock Firefox, that will cause them to complain about
an unsupported browser.

Unfortunately, I don't think any amount of complaining to Chase customer
service is likely to change how they handle things.

Smith

How does one go about changing the user agent string in SM2.40?  Could 
not easily find that information.


I contacted Chase Tech Support today and was told this was the first 
time they heard there was a problem and I was the first caller.  If we 
want Chase to fix the problem we have to get their attention with enough 
calls to tie up their web tech support phone lines.  Don't forget to 
escalate to a supervisor.


Larry
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Re: Windows 10 Conversion Questions

2016-07-19 Thread Larry S.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Aside from Windows 10 looking like a 1980 Japanese cheap car (unlike
Windows 10 they worked fine and where a good bargain) it has serious
privacy issues. I wouldn't install it. The freebee license is worthless.
If you upgrade the motherboard no more license. It's most sensitive to
the network card. If the mac address changes poof goes the lic.

If you want the lic just back up you data install and let Win 10
activate and then go back to 7 until the bugs and privacy issues are
ironed out. The next update will appear on August 2 and you can do all
your customizations again. The last update was more or less a reinstall
and I doubt this one will be any better. Win 10 just sux unless you are
a game and need DX12.

Thank you! How would I go back to Windows 7 after installing W10?

Larry S.


FRG

Larry S. wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

So I must convert to W10 soon, or lose my "freebie". Since I've never
done that, and are a computer amateur, I have questions.

W10 compatability report says "all o.k.".

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled
before the conversion?

I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD,
but in
W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved
version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how do I
find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a
confusing
UI.

What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

I probably have the same questions about everything else--programs,
such
as word processing, security and back-up. Ditto with peripherals
such as
mouse, monitor, keyboard and printer. Finding all the information I
can.

A very intimidating process, to be sure! Taking the plunge
soon--hope to
not drown.

Any and all help greatly appreciated!

Larry S.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0
SeaMonkey/2.40

My experience with upgrading from Win7 to Win10 with SeaMonkey installed
was: no issues.  The Windows upgrade ran as MS advertises it, and all my
desktop and taskbar icons were untouched, and all worked as they had
before the upgrade.  I've done this to 2 different machines in the last
week, same reeults.
In the event there were any issues, like you, I have a backup regimen in
place.  But there was no need to restore a thing.
Your profile location is the same in W10 as in W7, so that's not an
issue.
If you're still nervous, best thing I can recommend is to turn off your
antivirus during the upgrade, just to be sure it doesn't actively block
anything during the process.  Once the upgrade is done, turn your AV
back on (or re-install it if it complains).

Thank you--that is very encouraging! Incidentally, my antivirus is
planned for an upgrade, so they recommend removing it, then reinstalling
the new version after the upgrade. Seems to match your thoughts!

Thank you again.

Larry S.




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Re: Sea Monkey and Windows 10


Jim Taylor wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Second try:

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled
before the conversion?

I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but
in W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the
saved version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how
do I find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a
confusing UI.

What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

Larry S


Yes it is compatible with Windows 10 (although I see Windows 10 isn't
listed under System Requirements, looks like it needs updating).  You
shouldn't have to do anything, it should just work.  I have upgraded 3
systems (1 form Win7 and 2 from Win 8.1) and installed it on one new Win
10 system and have not had any problems.  Type about:profiles in the url
bar and it will tell you where your profile is located.  Or click Help,
Troubleshooting Information and click on about:profiles under
application basics.

Jim

I'm feeling better now about the task. Thank you for sharing your 
experience.

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Re: Eliminated Post?


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Larry S. wrote:


Thanks, Richard. The reason I asked the question was that the post
disappeared from my news group list about a half hour after it was
sent. I thought that maybe someone thought it wasn't a SM post and
deleted it. Yet, now here it is, answered. Very strange!


Check your display options. If you have SeaMonkey set to show only
unread messages, or only threads with unread messages, messages or
entire threads can seem to "disappear" when they no longer qualify.

With the cursor in the relevant newsgroup:

View | Messages: All/Unread/...

and

View | Threads: All/Unread/Threads with Unread/Watched Threads with
Unread/Ignored Threads...

As a general rule, SeaMonkey will not "recalculate" while you're in a
particular newsgroup; it only does so if you leave and then return. So a
message won't vanish before your very eyes the moment you read it.

In the case where you have SM set to show all messages in threads with
unread, you could post a message, read it, navigate away, and return to
find it "gone," but then when someone replied, the thread would qualify
for display again and all messages in that thread would reappear as soon
as you entered the NG.

Thank you, Paul. I actually knew this, but forgot it during a brain 
fade! My settings for View are Threads With Unread and Messages All.


Thanks for the reminder.
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Re: Eliminated Post?


Richard Alan wrote:

Larry S. wrote:


O.K., what happened to my post re Windows 10? Did you read the subject
and not the content? Yes, it sounded off topic, BUT the focus of the
post was Sea Monkey. Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have included some
off-topic griping about W10, but where are any possible answers to my SM
questions?

Larry S.


Larry, your post "Windows 10 Conversion Questions"
( Message-ID: <-ogdnu73s-2rkrdknz2dnuu7-knnn...@mozilla.org> )
showed up at 1:04PM ET and was then answered by "Rick & Sharon" at 3:40PM.
You then responded to that.

So no, it was not eliminated.

Thanks, Richard. The reason I asked the question was that the post 
disappeared from my news group list about a half hour after it was sent. 
I thought that maybe someone thought it wasn't a SM post and deleted it. 
Yet, now here it is, answered. Very strange!


Thanks again.


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Re: Windows 10 Conversion Questions


Rick & Sharon wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

So I must convert to W10 soon, or lose my "freebie". Since I've never
done that, and are a computer amateur, I have questions.

W10 compatability report says "all o.k.".

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled
before the conversion?

I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but in
W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved
version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how do I
find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a confusing
UI.

What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

I probably have the same questions about everything else--programs, such
as word processing, security and back-up. Ditto with peripherals such as
mouse, monitor, keyboard and printer. Finding all the information I can.

A very intimidating process, to be sure! Taking the plunge soon--hope to
not drown.

Any and all help greatly appreciated!

Larry S.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0
SeaMonkey/2.40

My experience with upgrading from Win7 to Win10 with SeaMonkey installed
was: no issues.  The Windows upgrade ran as MS advertises it, and all my
desktop and taskbar icons were untouched, and all worked as they had
before the upgrade.  I've done this to 2 different machines in the last
week, same reeults.
In the event there were any issues, like you, I have a backup regimen in
place.  But there was no need to restore a thing.
Your profile location is the same in W10 as in W7, so that's not an issue.
If you're still nervous, best thing I can recommend is to turn off your
antivirus during the upgrade, just to be sure it doesn't actively block
anything during the process.  Once the upgrade is done, turn your AV
back on (or re-install it if it complains).
Thank you--that is very encouraging! Incidentally, my antivirus is 
planned for an upgrade, so they recommend removing it, then reinstalling 
the new version after the upgrade. Seems to match your thoughts!


Thank you again.

Larry S.
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Sea Monkey and Windows 10


Second try:

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it 
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled 
before the conversion?


I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but in 
W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved 
version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how do I 
find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a confusing UI.


What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

Larry S.
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Eliminated Post?

O.K., what happened to my post re Windows 10? Did you read the subject 
and not the content? Yes, it sounded off topic, BUT the focus of the 
post was Sea Monkey. Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have included some 
off-topic griping about W10, but where are any possible answers to my SM 
questions?


Larry S.
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Windows 10 Conversion Questions

So I must convert to W10 soon, or lose my "freebie". Since I've never 
done that, and are a computer amateur, I have questions.


W10 compatability report says "all o.k.".

Is Sea Monkey compatible with W10? If not, what do I have to do so it 
will work? Will it have to be reinstalled? Should it be uninstalled 
before the conversion?


I save up-to-date copies of the profile and ini in a separate HD, but in 
W10 have no idea where to find the profile so I can copy in the saved 
version. Help, anyone? (What is the path to the profile, and how do I 
find it?) In W7 I know the answer, but W10 is a mystery with a confusing UI.


What happens to extensions and plug-ins?

I probably have the same questions about everything else--programs, such 
as word processing, security and back-up. Ditto with peripherals such as 
mouse, monitor, keyboard and printer. Finding all the information I can.


A very intimidating process, to be sure! Taking the plunge soon--hope to 
not drown.


Any and all help greatly appreciated!

Larry S.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 
SeaMonkey/2.40

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-25 Thread Larry S.


Jim wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:
<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-staying-race-good-democratic-party/story?id=38620293>



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?


It worked OK for me.  Kind of strange, the video started up, went blank,
then a few seconds later, it started up again and played OK.  Running
both AdBlock Plus and NoScripts.
A new symptom--after a long delay,the sound of the video started, but 
not the video. Never have any luck with ABC videos, so generally just 
don't even try.


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Re: Huge caches with many Cache.Trash left overs.

2016-03-26 Thread Larry S.


G. Ross wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/23/2016 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Wow.

I just noticed my Windows XP Pro SP3's C:\Documents and
Settings\Ant\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\0348axza3.sm2.10.1andNewer\Cache\ was
over 8 GB! It was supposed to be only using 350 MB according to
about:cache and cache settings!

I went in there and noticed many Cache.Trash (directorie/folder)s. Why
aren't these being automatically removed? Anyways, I manually deleted
them in cmd.exe with "rmdir /s" command. Wow, that took forever to
finish!

Thank you in advance. :)



I a;so see this in Windows 7 with SeaMonkey 2.40.  The problem is that
several specialized caches are not in the directory where the user has
requested caches to be stored.  I see no good reason why there are
specialized caches.

See the bug reports at
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804731>
  and
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=864047>.
Also see the bug report that is supposed to be tracking bug reports
about caches at
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559729>.


I looked in my Cache directory and found Cache, and Cache2.  Cache2 had
two sub-directories, Doomed (empty) and Entries.  Entries had 5280
files.  This took a while to empty.

I, too, emptied out the Cache2/Entries folder. However, I also have a 
Cache folder (which empties out per entry in Edit>Properties>Cache>Empty 
Cache).


I also have Cache.Trash25143, which only contains sub-folder B, which is 
empty.


Finally, I have Cache.Trash15551. Can I also empty that one out?

Larry S.

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Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-23 Thread Larry S.


Ray_Net wrote:

Larry S. wrote on 23/03/2016 14:17:

Larry S. wrote:

Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having
trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a
separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I
didn't have that problem; now I do.

Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if there was one)?

Larry S.

An interesting discussion, and an informative one! I've read all these
posts, and unfortunately conclude that there is no solution to this
problem.

Sigh! I'd been hoping that there was a answer, but apparently not.

There were recommendations for other password mangers, and while they
have very useful features they don't seem to solve the problem.

Thank you to all of you have provided comments. This group is an
outstanding resource!

Larry S.

For this particuliar case where the couple login/pswd is on two
different web-pages---
--You may write a program sending the needed data using Buttons ,
per exemple:
- A button labelled "LOGIN-NAME-"
and
- A button labelled "LOGIN-PSWD-"

I had done this kind of program using Visual-Basic:

- Start the browser to get his ProcId: (to be done only once)
  ProcID = Shell(""C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"",
AppWinStyle.NormalFocus)

- then for the first button_click:
 AppActivate(ProcID)
 ' Send the keystrokes to the SeaMonkey application.
 My.Computer.Keyboard.SendKeys("CUSTOMER01264", True) ' Send the
LOGIN-NAME
Application.DoEvents()
 Sleep(100)

- and for the second button_click:
 AppActivate(ProcID)
 ' Send the keystrokes to the SeaMonkey application.
 My.Computer.Keyboard.SendKeys("lion-panda-cat", True) ' Send
the LOGIN-PSWD
Application.DoEvents()
 Sleep(100)
Thank you! Interesting, but maybe beyond my skill level. Useful 
suggestion, however, for many.


Larry S.
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Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-23 Thread Larry S.


Larry S. wrote:

Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having
trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a
separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I
didn't have that problem; now I do.

Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if there was one)?

Larry S.
An interesting discussion, and an informative one! I've read all these 
posts, and unfortunately conclude that there is no solution to this 
problem.


Sigh! I'd been hoping that there was a answer, but apparently not.

There were recommendations for other password mangers, and while they 
have very useful features they don't seem to solve the problem.


Thank you to all of you have provided comments. This group is an 
outstanding resource!


Larry S.
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Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Larry S.


David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having
trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a
separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I
didn't have that problem; now I do.

Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if there was one)?

Larry S.



See bug #368265 at <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368265>.

The problem seems to have gone away, at least for cases where the user
has only one account at the Web site.  If there is more than one
account, it becomes necessary for the same password to be used for all
the accounts.  That is because Password Manager does not have access to
the user ID on the prior Web page and thus cannot tell which password is
appropriate.

Unfortunately, for me it hasn't gone away. I only have one account at 
the Web site, but it still doesn't come up with the password for the 
second popup. This is a new site for me, but I have other sites 
(financial) where Password Manager works just fine. However, for those 
the login and password are in the same popup.


I'm getting the impression that it's not, and not going to be, fixed. 
You reference to bugzilla is rather old by now. Maybe o.k. for 
Thunderbird, but not SM?


Frustrated!

Thank you for your consideration, however.

Larry S.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39

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Re: Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-19 Thread Larry S.


NFN Smith wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

I'm beginning to suspect that some web developers are starting to use
two-page login forms deliberately to prevent their users from using
password managers on the assumption they won't be secure, rather than
leaving it up to their users to ensure they store their passwords
securely. In which case, even if something is done in the browser which
works most of the time, those web developers may make sure they hit the
conditions for it to not work for their site and the whole cycle would
start again...


Some of it may be a way of defending against passwords "remembered"
(whether in the browser, as with Mozilla, or in the way that IE keeps
stuff in the Windows registry). Given the antipathy of some developers
towards Mozilla (including the long-time problem of improper sniffing
methodologies, looking explicitly for "Firefox", rather than "Gecko",
and sometimes causing for Gecko browsers that aren't Firefox), I think
there's some number of developers that aren't really thinking much about
the Mozilla method of handling passwords.

However, I think developers are more focused on defending against
script-based authentication (presumed to be malicious). By requiring
multiple user inputs, then it's far more difficult for an attacker to
present credentials -- not only valid credentials, but a way of
defending against brute-force guessing.  And this kind of methodology
achieves a lot of the same kind of benefit as CAPTCHA, without annoying
users with CAPTCHA images that are difficult to decipher.

I've noticed that multiple-stage logins seem to be most common with
financial institutions.

I haven't checked it, but my suspicion is that a tool such as KeePass
might have capacity of scripting a multiple-stage login.

Smith

Here are the same questions that I asked Ed Mullen about Last Pass(with 
no reply so far), after reading their description:


--  Not clear if it addresses the two-part login problem. Do 
you know?


--  Will it pick up existing login data from Password Manager, 
or will I have to reenter all from scratch?


Thanks for your suggestion.
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Re: No internal updates yet? Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released


Paul Bergsagel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/16/2016 08:38 PM, Desiree wrote:

On 3/16/2016 8:43 AM, Ant wrote:

On 3/14/2016 8:42 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/14/2016 9:28 AM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
...

BTW IMPORTANT->the Check for updates menu items is broken on the Mac
claiming there is no new update.

Please go here to find the update
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/


No updates found in my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine
too!
What's up?


Hmmm.  Just what I kinda feared.  I must've done something
wrong with the partials or update placement. :(


Any updates? :)


Yes, approximately how much longer before internal updates are
available?  (Windows 8.0 Pro).


Love how everybody was fine using version 2.39 while the developers
worked out the problems, thanked them for their work, told them to take
their time, and now it's where is the update. :)


There is a new 2.40 release. In future read the entire post history.
Only the incremental, in place, update is broken. Geeze ;) .
To get the recent Seamonkey 2.40 release go here:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

This not the incremental, in place, update. You have to download the
whole program, Seamonkey 2.40 and then replace v 2.39 with v. 2.40.

Thanks again for all the hard work that went into making this release a
reality.
Amateur question--do I just d/l it and install it over 2.39, or do I 
have to delete 2.39 first?


Thanks for your patience with this.

Larry S.
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Re: Separated User ID and Password


Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/16/2016 12:47 PM, Larry S.'s fingers rattled off:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/15/2016 10:54 AM, Larry S. wrote:

Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager
having
trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a
separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time
since I
didn't have that problem; now I do.

Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if there was one)?

Larry S.



See bug #368265 at
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368265>.

The problem seems to have gone away, at least for cases where the user
has only one account at the Web site.  If there is more than one
account, it becomes necessary for the same password to be used for all
the accounts.  That is because Password Manager does not have access to
the user ID on the prior Web page and thus cannot tell which password is
appropriate.


Unfortunately, for me it hasn't gone away. I only have one account at
the Web site, but it still doesn't come up with the password for the
second popup. This is a new site for me, but I have other sites
(financial) where Password Manager works just fine. However, for those
the login and password are in the same popup.

I'm getting the impression that it's not, and not going to be, fixed.
You reference to bugzilla is rather old by now. Maybe o.k. for
Thunderbird, but not SM?

Frustrated!

Thank you for your consideration, however.

Larry S.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39


You might LastPass.


Thank you for the suggestion of Last Pass. I read their description; 
sounds good, but two questions remain:


		--  Still not clear if it addresses the two-part login problem. Do you 
know?


		--  Will it pick up existing login data from Password Manager, or will 
I have to reenter all from scratch?


Thanks again.
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Re: Separated User ID and Password


NFN Smith wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:



Some of it may be a way of defending against passwords "remembered"
(whether in the browser, as with Mozilla, or in the way that IE keeps
stuff in the Windows registry). Given the antipathy of some developers
towards Mozilla (including the long-time problem of improper sniffing
methodologies, looking explicitly for "Firefox", rather than "Gecko",
and sometimes causing for Gecko browsers that aren't Firefox), I think
there's some number of developers that aren't really thinking much about
the Mozilla method of handling passwords.


Yeah, I think the concern about letting the browser remember passwords
is more those which don't need the user to enter a master password to
access them. Even if the passwords are encrypted, if the user doesn't
have to enter a password to get at them the decryption key must be
stored somewhere on the system, so is just as accessible to anyone able
to steal the password database.


I think this is particularly true with Internet Explorer -- I've always
found Microsoft's methodologies of "remembering" passwords via the
registry to be sloppy, and that they're far too aggressive about
offering to remember, and where it's too difficult to rescind, if the
user changes their mind, or accidentally remembers, when they don't want
to.

Although that stuff is encoded, it's not encrypted (and no requirement
for user authentication for access, beyond having a valid login for
Windows). To me, that's a security-by-obscurity thing, where it seems
likely that a script writer who knows what he is doing should be able to
extract that content from the registry. I've always been surprised that
the security experts don't push Microsoft a lot harder on that one,
although it's entirely possible that there's something that I'm missing.

However, I have seen reviews of comparative browser security, and
working from memory, I remember seeing that without a password, Mozilla
rates medium or medium-to-low, and below Google Chrome, but I think
about even with Internet Explorer. However, with the master password,
Mozilla is at the top.

I do know this -- using the various password recovery tools from
Nirsoft, it's pretty easy to extract remembered passwords. If I'm
troubleshooting on somebody's machine, I will occasionally run these
tools (with the user present), as a way of demonstrating the
vulnerability of passwords saved in the browser (if not protected by a
master password).


Letting the user use a password manager
might even makes it more likely that they'll choose a more secure
password (longer, more difficult to guess) since they don't have to
remember it.


I think also that a majority of developers don't really account for the
idea of using third-party password managers. There's a comparatively few
number of people who use them, and from a development stand point,
trying to account for them merely adds complexity, and their focus tends
to be on facilitating the lowest common denominator of non-technical
user.  That, in itself, is a challenge, because there's still far too
many many people who want one-button convenience, and where the
mechanics of proper authentication are an annoyance.




However, I think developers are more focused on defending against
script-based authentication (presumed to be malicious). By requiring
multiple user inputs, then it's far more difficult for an attacker to
present credentials -- not only valid credentials, but a way of
defending against brute-force guessing.


Perhaps that's also part of it. But it only doubles the number of
requests needed to brute force the password (assuming the username has
to be entered again after each attempt at the password). There are more
effective ways of slowing that down, such as only allowing say 5
attempts for a given username before locking the account for 5 minutes
(if the error message doesn't differentiate between incorrect
username/password and account locked, the attacker won't be able to use
that to know if they've got the username right). Most users aren't
delayed at all, but an attacker can only make 5 attempts every 5
minutes, and may not even know that that's what the limit is (so might
even happen to try the correct password while the account is locked).


True, although there is definitely a "speed bump" effect, if you you
have to click on a graphical button that takes you to another page, and
then requires subsequent data entry.

And more sites are moving to setups that do lock-outs after multiple
failed authentication. Thus, for the bad guys, there's a lot more
emphasis of finding places where passwords have been reused.

Consider:
http://www.eweek.com/security/sentry-mba-uses-credential-stuffing-to-hack-sites.html.


The place where this is especially problematic is that so many sites use
email addresses as user IDs, and there's an implied encouragement to end
users to use the same passwords with those IDs.  Thus, if an intruder
can get a password

Re: Separated User ID and Password


David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/16/2016 5:17 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


All this means that, as David mentioned, the password manager has no
way to know that the password requested on the second page is in any
way related to the username requested on the first page. It may be
obvious to you that you're being asked for a username and password.
It may be possible to do something that tries to work it out, but it
probably wouldn't be completely reliable (and then people would
probably complain about the odd time it doesn't get it right). Even
determining that a given field is for a username, and not a search
term or some other bit of information, is not necessarily easy.


Logically, it should be possible. Suppose the password manager has a
record with
domain 
login "YourName"
password "StealMe"
When the user visits a page in  that contains a "login"
field, it should know to enter "YourName." When the user clicks and is
taken to another page in  that contains a "password"
field, it should know to enter "StealMe."

I don't claim that password managers are designed that way. But
logically it should be possible. It's like going to 411.com and asking
for a person's phone number on one page and the same person's street
address on another page -- both pieces of data are contained in the same
record, and the database returns one piece in response to one input and
the other piece in response to the other input.



That indeed is working for me.


So, what do I have to do to get it to work that way for me?

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Separated User ID and Password

2016-03-15 Thread Larry S.

Once upon a time there was discussion here about Password Manager having 
trouble when the log-in process asked for User ID, and then in a 
separate screen asked for the password. I ignored it at the time since I 
didn't have that problem; now I do.


Any advice? Anyone remember the answer (if there was one)?

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SM Won't Open In Correct Profile--PROBLEM SOLVED

2016-02-06 Thread Larry S.


A big Thank You to all who helped solve the problem with my wife's computer:

Ed Mullen
David Ross
Jonathan N. Little
Frank-Rainer Grahl
David Durgee
Mark Bourne
Philip Taylor
Daniel

You all contributed to one extent or another. This clearly shows the 
value of this news group--I can't imagine a better resource.


Here's how we resolved it, with pieces from many of you (seems simple 
once we really understood it).


It all started when we set up her "new" profile in her new computer, 
copying same from a backup copy.


The first observation is that SM is installed and working, except that 
we get the error message. Seems that SM is trying to do what it is told, 
in three instructions:


(1)The file named in the error message is listed in Browser Preferences 
in the box defining "Home".


(2)The Browser preference also says to display the Home page when the 
browser opens.


(3)The Appearance preference says to open the Browser when SM starts. 
Thus, SM is told to try to open a file that does not exist.


Two other clues: the "ini" file doesn't have an "ini" suffix, and the 
"bookmarks" file doesn't have an "html" suffix. In both cases that 
nevertheless is what they were (a belated discovery).


So, eventually we changed the Home box in Preferences to point to her 
correct Profile, which did include the html file, restarted SM, and 
voila!, fixed. SM starts on her Bookmarks page, and all is well.


Thank you all again. What a great (and patient) group!

Larry S.
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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

2016-02-06 Thread Larry S.

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

O.K., maybe we're on to something. However, there are a couple of
problems:
-- the profile rtfmbobp, default no longer exists, as it was
deleted from profile manager.
-- we can't even get to preference settings, in that SM never opens
to that point. The error message comes first.
Bummer!

Okay, stop! Just do this, step by step.

0) Close SeaMonkey...you will want to print this out or paste into a
temporary notepad window for reference

1) In Windows explorer go to
"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\"

2) What is the *actual* profile folder name there if it is not
"rtfmbopb.default"? In fact whatever it just is make a copy of that
folder within
"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\". Then
rename the copy to "linda.fixed". So now the profile you want total path
is:

"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\linda.fixed"

3) In that profile folder find and open in notepad "prefs.js"

4) Search for "mailnews.start_page.enabled" and edit the line to match
below:

user_pref("mailnews.start_page.enabled", false);

5) Save "prefs.js"

6) Go to "C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\" in Explorer

7) Rename "profiles.ini" to "profiles.ini.disabled"

8) Create a new "profiles.ini" and paste exactly below:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/linda.fixed

9) Save the file as "profiles.ini", in Windows you may have to have the
option to DISABLE "Hide extensions of known file type" to prevent ".txt"
from being added.

10) Drag an temporary shortcut to Seamonkey to your desktop

11) Right-click on shortcut and select properties and edit Target to add
" -P default" so it should be:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -P default

12) Launch SeaMonkey from that shortcut to test.

If all goes well and it should, you can remove all profile folders
EXCEPT:

"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\linda.fixed"

Well? OP, did it fix your issue?

Analyzing further this "mess", it all started when we set up her "new"
profile in her new computer, copying same from a backup copy. Two
factors emerge. Part I:

The first thing that is apparent is that SM is installed and working,
except that we get the error message "The file
/C:/Users/Linda/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/rtfmbopb.default/bookmarks.html
cannot be found." Seems that SM is trying to do what it is told, in
three instructions:

(1)This is exactly the file that is listed in Browser Preferences in the
box defining "Home". (2)The Browser preference also says to display the
Home page when the browser opens, and (3)the Appearance preference says
to open the Browser when SM starts. Thus, SM is told to try to open a
file that does not exist.

Could we just change what's in the Home box to the file where her
profile is located? (Note that the Home box entry starts with three
diagonals (///), not the one in the error message. Do that also?)

Maybe that could make the error message go away?

Part II:

She would like SM open in her Bookmarks list (see error message as an
example). Once we have "Home" properly defined, could we then have her
Bookmarks copied into an HTML file? I believe the way to do this is with
"about"config", and we've done it before, though not recently. (Should
work, since her bookmarks are contained in her profile.)

Would greatly welcome your thoughts and advice on these two steps.

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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile--PROBLEM SOLVED

2016-02-06 Thread Larry S.

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/06/2016 05:39 PM, Larry S. wrote:

A big Thank You to all who helped solve the problem with my wife's
computer:

Ed Mullen
David Ross
Jonathan N. Little
Frank-Rainer Grahl
David Durgee
Mark Bourne
Philip Taylor
Daniel

You all contributed to one extent or another. This clearly shows the
value of this news group--I can't imagine a better resource.

Here's how we resolved it, with pieces from many of you (seems simple
once we really understood it).

It all started when we set up her "new" profile in her new computer,
copying same from a backup copy.

The first observation is that SM is installed and working, except that
we get the error message. Seems that SM is trying to do what it is
told, in three instructions:

(1)The file named in the error message is listed in Browser
Preferences in the box defining "Home".

(2)The Browser preference also says to display the Home page when the
browser opens.

(3)The Appearance preference says to open the Browser when SM starts.
Thus, SM is told to try to open a file that does not exist.

Two other clues: the "ini" file doesn't have an "ini" suffix, and the
"bookmarks" file doesn't have an "html" suffix. In both cases that
nevertheless is what they were (a belated discovery).

So, eventually we changed the Home box in Preferences to point to her
correct Profile, which did include the html file, restarted SM, and
voila!, fixed. SM starts on her Bookmarks page, and all is well.

Thank you all again. What a great (and patient) group!

Larry S.

Well the "ini" and "html" files do have suffixes, but they were hidden.

Show or hide file name extensions - Windows Help -
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/show-hide-file-name-extensions#show-hide-file-name-extensions=windows-7>

Thank you, Walt. The actual files are on my wife's Windows 10 computer
(can't find such a thing as Control Panel). In any case, it's odd that
some of the files do have suffixes, and others (including these) do not.
We had to look at the contents to determine what they were.

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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

2016-02-05 Thread Larry S.


Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:





O.K., maybe we're on to something. However, there are a couple of
problems:
 -- the profile rtfmbobp, default no longer exists, as it was
deleted from profile manager.
 -- we can't even get to preference settings, in that SM never opens
to that point. The error message comes first.
Bummer!



Okay, stop! Just do this, step by step.

0) Close SeaMonkey...you will want to print this out or paste into a
temporary notepad window for reference

1) In Windows explorer go to
"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\"

2) What is the *actual* profile folder name there if it is not
"rtfmbopb.default"? In fact whatever it just is make a copy of that
folder within
"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\". Then
rename the copy to "linda.fixed". So now the profile you want total path
is:

  "C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\linda.fixed"

3) In that profile folder find and open in notepad "prefs.js"

4) Search for "mailnews.start_page.enabled" and edit the line to match
below:

user_pref("mailnews.start_page.enabled", false);

5) Save "prefs.js"

6) Go to "C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\" in Explorer

7) Rename "profiles.ini" to "profiles.ini.disabled"

8) Create a new "profiles.ini" and paste exactly below:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/linda.fixed

9) Save the file as "profiles.ini", in Windows you may have to have the
option to DISABLE "Hide extensions of known file type" to prevent ".txt"
from being added.

10) Drag an temporary shortcut to Seamonkey to your desktop

11) Right-click on shortcut and select properties and edit Target to add
" -P default" so it should be:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -P default

12) Launch SeaMonkey from that shortcut to test.

If all goes well and it should, you can remove all profile folders
EXCEPT:

"C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\linda.fixed"



Well? OP, did it fix your issue?

Sorry, we got distracted by other things (e.g. life), but still intend 
to try it. Will report thereafter.

Thank you for your interest.
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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

2016-02-03 Thread Larry S.

David H. Durgee wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry S. wrote on 2/1/2016 10:25 AM:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

There is a profiles.ini in %appdata%\mozilla\Seamonkey. If you
delete
the ini
Seamonkey should start and create a new default profile. You can
also
edit it and
see if the wrong profile is in it.

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:33:30 -0500, Larry S. wrote:

When my wife set up SM in her new W10 computer, there was a
bit of
confusion about profiles. Eventually she got the one she wanted,
and
deleted the others (in Profile Manager). Now when she clicks on
the SM
logo it wants to open one of the profiles she deleted,
resulting in
File
Not Found because that profile no longer exists.

However, in Profile Manger she has indicated the correct one and
clicked
Use Profile. SM refuses to use this (correct) one and keeps
opening
with
File Not Found.

How do we fix this? All help gratefully appreciated!

When you could not find the INI file it was you had Windows
default of
*hiding* known file type. Never understood why they do that when file
extensions are so important in Windows.

Here's what the ini file says (comments in earlier message). (Can we
edit this? It's in Note Pad.):

Yes but you have to do it with SeaMonkey closed. If Profile0 is the
one
you want then just comment-out the other profile with preceding ";"

[General]
Start with last profile=1

[Profile0]
Name=Linda2
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/random#.Linda2
Default=1

[Profile1]
Name=Default User
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/different random#.Default User

;[Profile1]
;Name=Default User
;IsRelative=1
;Path=Profiles/different random#.Default User

save and start SeaMonkey

Took your advice with the asterisks, saved the file, then opened it
again. Result: the "wrong" profile information was gone (!), but SM
still opens with File Not Found referring to the wrong profile.

Question:(displaying our ignorance) should we have also edited the ini
file so the first line "Start with last profile=1" be changed to point
to profile 0 instead?

Larry S.

Yes.

I think that is a Boolean 1|0 not a pointer to which profile. Changing
to 1 to 0 just means don't autostart with the last profile you used
without prompting. Wouldn't hurt.

But what I would do is *validate* the name of the actually profile DIR
name is the one you want. E.g. if the actual folder for Linda is
"12345678.Linda2" that the entry in the profile.ini is
"12345678.Linda2".

Yes, that's the way it reads in the ini file. Still brings up the old
(now deleted) profile.

Here's the error message: "The file
/C:/Users/Linda/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/rtfmbopb.default/bookmarks.html

cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." Maybe the
HTML file is the problem, but it should be out of the picture now that
that profile has been deleted.

About ready to give up.

Larry S.

Err... That's not a profile, that is a home page! You can change the
settings for that in preferences.

Dave
Good idea, except that we can't open SM to that point. The error message
comes first. Sigh . . .

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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

2016-02-03 Thread Larry S.


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Took your advice with the asterisks, saved the file, then opened it
again. Result: the "wrong" profile information was gone (!), but SM
still opens with File Not Found referring to the wrong profile.


Apologies if I've missed it, but could you post the exact error message
and the path it's complaining about? Feel free to anonymise the username
and random part of the profile folder name if you prefer, but make sure
it's still clear which path is the intended profile and which is the
wrong one.

Have you copied a files from one profile folder to another at any point
during setting up the profiles? I wonder if perhaps it's not the whole
profile that's being loaded from the wrong folder, but maybe the
"correct" profile has a reference to a path in the other profile folder.
That could happen if you copied configuration files from one profile to
another without adjusting any relevant paths, and may have appeared to
work until you deleted the original profile.


Question:(displaying our ignorance) should we have also edited the ini
file so the first line "Start with last profile=1" be changed to point
to profile 0 instead?


I'm not certain offhand, but I think "1" means "start with the last
profile" and "0" means "don't start with the last profile", i.e. show
the profile manager dialog where you can select a profile. Since you're
having problems getting it to use the correct profile, it might help
anyway to set it to "0" and then select the right profile.

If you haven't already done so, it would be a good idea to make a backup
of all the profile folders (and profiles.ini) before messing around with
them too much.

Mark.

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, it was copied from a backup copy made 
with the old (now replaced) computer. What are the "configuration 
files"? I only know about the "ini" file, which has been discussed in 
this thread.  The only other choice that I know about is the "start in" 
entry in the shortcut properties, also discussed. Neither seems to make 
a difference, even if corrected per advice received here.

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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

2016-02-03 Thread Larry S.

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Yes, that's the way it reads in the ini file. Still brings up the old
(now deleted) profile.

Here's the error message: "The file
/C:/Users/Linda/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/rtfmbopb.default/bookmarks.html

cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." Maybe the
HTML file is the problem, but it should be out of the picture now that
that profile has been deleted.

About ready to give up.

Larry S.

Err... That's not a profile, that is a home page! You can change the
settings for that in preferences.

Good pickup David. That is *exactly* what is wrong Larry. You could have
confirmed it with my long laborious steps ;-)

Larry, you have the preference setting "When Mail launches, show the
Start Page in message area" pointing to a file that *no longer* exists!
You can confirm this since you are using Windows with:

WinKey + R and enter

C:\Users\Linda\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\rtfmbopb.default

and look and there will be no "bookmarks.html" in that folder.

Your options to fix this are:

1) Create a blank text file "bookmarks.html" in the folder.

2) Find from backup the "bookmarks.html" and restore it to that folder

3) "Edit > Preferences Mail & Newsgroups > Mail Start Page" clear the
checkbox (What my setup is, you will just get a page in the area. BTW
same result as #1)

4) "Edit > Preferences Mail & Newsgroups > Mail Start Page" keep it
checked and click the "Restore Default" button and get the standard
builtin start page.

O.K., maybe we're on to something. However, there are a couple of problems:
-- the profile rtfmbobp, default no longer exists, as it was deleted
from profile manager.
-- we can't even get to preference settings, in that SM never opens to
that point. The error message comes first.

Bummer!
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Re: Helper Applications File Types?


WaltS48 wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Received an MP4 file via e-mail. It plays beautifully, but I have no
idea which of my many applications is playing it. I look in "Helper
Applications", but file types aren't shown there. Somehow I'm supposed
to guess which application plays which type?

Please help me understand how to read Helper Applications, and/or know
which file types are involved with what application.

Thank you!
Larry S.



Isn't the "Content Type" column the same as file types?

I have 3 listed for mpeg-4. They are mpeg-4 audio, mpeg-4 video
(video/mp4) and mpeg-4 video (video/x-mv4), all set to "Always Ask"
under the "Action" column.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14>
My Helper Applications list has lots of listings but names very few file 
types, and has no entries at all for "audio" or "video". That's why I 
was trying to figure out what program was playing the MP4 file.


Larry S.
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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry S. wrote on 2/1/2016 10:25 AM:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

There is a profiles.ini in %appdata%\mozilla\Seamonkey. If you delete
the ini
Seamonkey should start and create a new default profile. You can also
edit it and
see if the wrong profile is in it.

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:33:30 -0500, Larry S. wrote:

When my wife set up SM in her new W10 computer, there was a bit of
confusion about profiles. Eventually she got the one she wanted,
and
deleted the others (in Profile Manager). Now when she clicks on
the SM
logo it wants to open one of the profiles she deleted, resulting in
File
Not Found because that profile no longer exists.

However, in Profile Manger she has indicated the correct one and
clicked
Use Profile. SM refuses to use this (correct) one and keeps opening
with
File Not Found.

How do we fix this? All help gratefully appreciated!

When you could not find the INI file it was you had Windows default of
*hiding* known file type. Never understood why they do that when file
extensions are so important in Windows.

Here's what the ini file says (comments in earlier message). (Can we
edit this? It's in Note Pad.):

Yes but you have to do it with SeaMonkey closed. If Profile0 is the one
you want then just comment-out the other profile with preceding ";"

[General]
Start with last profile=1

[Profile0]
Name=Linda2
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/random#.Linda2
Default=1

[Profile1]
Name=Default User
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/different random#.Default User

;[Profile1]
;Name=Default User
;IsRelative=1
;Path=Profiles/different random#.Default User

save and start SeaMonkey

Took your advice with the asterisks, saved the file, then opened it
again. Result: the "wrong" profile information was gone (!), but SM
still opens with File Not Found referring to the wrong profile.

Question:(displaying our ignorance) should we have also edited the ini
file so the first line "Start with last profile=1" be changed to point
to profile 0 instead?

Larry S.

Yes.

I think that is a Boolean 1|0 not a pointer to which profile. Changing
to 1 to 0 just means don't autostart with the last profile you used
without prompting. Wouldn't hurt.

Yes, that's the way it reads in the ini file. Still brings up the old
(now deleted) profile.

Here's the error message: "The file
/C:/Users/Linda/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/rtfmbopb.default/bookmarks.html
cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." Maybe the
HTML file is the problem, but it should be out of the picture now that
that profile has been deleted.

About ready to give up.

Larry S.
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Re: SM Won't Open In Correct Profile


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

There is a profiles.ini in %appdata%\mozilla\Seamonkey. If you delete the ini
Seamonkey should start and create a new default profile. You can also edit it 
and
see if the wrong profile is in it.

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:33:30 -0500, Larry S. wrote:


When my wife set up SM in her new W10 computer, there was a bit of
confusion about profiles. Eventually she got the one she wanted, and
deleted the others (in Profile Manager). Now when she clicks on the SM
logo it wants to open one of the profiles she deleted, resulting in File
Not Found because that profile no longer exists.

However, in Profile Manger she has indicated the correct one and clicked
Use Profile. SM refuses to use this (correct) one and keeps opening with
File Not Found.

How do we fix this? All help gratefully appreciated!

Larry



  Regards
  Frank-Rainer Grahl


The old profile was deleted from the ini file. The ini points to the 
correct location. Still doesn't work.


Just to be sure: we can delete the ini file completely, and SM will 
build it when it starts? How does the computer know where to go to find SM?


Note: the ini file's contents certainly appear to be an ini file, but 
the file name doesn't say "ini", just Profiles". (It's different from 
the folder named Profiles, which does contain the profile.)


Larry S.
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