seamonkey mail says unable to authenicate to SMTP server..

2010-04-22 Thread me2
No security is selected but any attempt to send mail produces this
message.Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
It goes on to say, The server does not support any secure compatible
secure authentication mechanism...
No encryption is selected in Mail security..
No security is selected in Server settings.
Selecting security from top mail menu Digitally signed No, Encrypted
No.
 I did a cold boot problem continues.
The old copy of 1.17 on the same machine works correctly in mail as
does a copy on another machine on the same network.

any suggestions welcome.
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Re: seamonkey mail says unable to authenicate to SMTP server..

2010-04-22 Thread me2
I should have mentioned I'm running 2.0.4 SM, and that under Default
encryption while grayed out Never is selected.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:47:03 -0500, me2 p...@thirdstaratright.net
wrote:

No security is selected but any attempt to send mail produces this
message.Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
It goes on to say, The server does not support any secure compatible
secure authentication mechanism...
No encryption is selected in Mail security..
No security is selected in Server settings.
Selecting security from top mail menu Digitally signed No, Encrypted
No.
 I did a cold boot problem continues.
The old copy of 1.17 on the same machine works correctly in mail as
does a copy on another machine on the same network.

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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-03-08 Thread me2
I'm the dummy who started this topic, and I apologize to those who
found my message format, content, etc., incorrect.
I let my frustration with the loss of a, to me, highly valued part of
seamonkey - form manager color my remarks.
Since then I've messed with the various suggestions for forms  made
here   - and I really appreciate those that have labored to try and
find a way -
I've used Netscape and then SeaMonkey since I was gifted AOL many
years ago and realized there had to be something better..

Unfortunately not only did I lose form manger but found that 2.02 and
2.03 had odd problems as well with my main Internet machine (its runs
Vista win64 which may contribute)..

I've decided to move on for now, Opera runs really nice, my bookmarks
survived the move as did my mail - its form management is nothing to
write home about but as someone here explained to me if I want better
I should write it (like that would ever happen).

I hope seamonkey gets its act together, that a form manger returns,
that the we're in this together attitude reappears.. and shot world
peace as well.

I'll check back in a few months or so I guess, but if not I'll well
aware of the value of one less user..
To those that made seamonkey 1.xx so great my thanks.
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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread me2
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

 The powers that be don't have the 
manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so


I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any
free software, will defined by a few - the genius of its origin was
a browser that encompassed several vital tools under one umbrella. To
start cutting off any of these, form manger included, diminishes the
original concept and automatically removes some users who had depended
on a given ability. If the powers that be really want to send people
to other browsers this is great way to start. 
BUT I really believe that the importance of form manger was just
underestimated and there remains hope for its restoration.
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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-05 Thread me2
I'm going to make the unlikely assumption that your posting was of
good intent - that you surely recognized that the initial post was a
plea to the seamonkey community to restore what I believe is an
important part of the original Netscape heritage. That my followup
plainly said I belied that the lack of form manger in 2.x was a
reflection of the lack of understanding as how important it was to
many users- not an intentional slight.
I don't believe anything I posted was shooting blanks, unless
someone's touchy-feeling mode is on way high. I know this is Usenet
where the small can be heard with as much volume as the small minded,
I plea guilty to being the first and try not to practice the latter.If
you don't value form manger, well that's your view, I was merely
trying to keep the issue visible here, hoping that those who are
considering abandoning SM well at least know that are others who still
have hope.



On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:44:45 -0800, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
wrote:

On 01/05/2010 11:27 AM, me2 wrote:
 On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones
 pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:
 
 The powers that be don't have the 
manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so
 
 
 I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any
 free software, will defined by a few - the genius of its origin was
 a browser that encompassed several vital tools under one umbrella. To
 start cutting off any of these, form manger included, diminishes the
 original concept and automatically removes some users who had depended
 on a given ability. If the powers that be really want to send people
 to other browsers this is great way to start. 
 BUT I really believe that the importance of form manger was just
 underestimated and there remains hope for its restoration.

And I (we?) do hope that you'll take advantage of SeaMonkey to review
the past threads addressing this issue, rather than starting a new one
shooting blanks.

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Restore Form manger...(no content)

2010-01-04 Thread me2

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Using firefox add-ons...

2009-12-22 Thread me2
Since the code is getting to be very similar, are we going to be able
to get firefox add-ons, e.g., autofill forms?
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any word/hope on restoring form manger? (no contnet)

2009-12-20 Thread me2

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Re: SM 2.0.1 personal toolbar )bookmarks)

2009-12-20 Thread me2
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:39:25 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

me2 wrote:
 How do I NOT show the bookmarks folder in my toolbar? I mean the one
 SM adds that is named Bookmarks, this isn't needed any way since
 Bookmarks appears in the top drop downs, and it takes up room that I
 need for other folders- I don't believe 2.0 did this?



 any word/hope on form manger?
Click and hold on a Blank area in the menubar
 From Pop up menu choose Customize
Next click on Bookmarks Item in menu bar and drag to the open menu and 
drop.  do not drag just off of the menu or else it will disappear 
forever.be sure to drag to the open customize menu and drop. Also 
another Dumb idea putting the home button at the same level as the 
bookmark item and the book marks bar I dragged it up to the  navigation 
bar where is should have been.   some of these developers . makes 
you wonder.


appreciate the help!
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Re: any word/hope on restoring form manger? (no content)

2009-12-20 Thread me2
I am using it, but find the present system odd in that  I can't
understand what it will remember and what it won't.



On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:07:39 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

me2 wrote:


 From the sounds of things . No.

download the Form History manager add on. It's a decent substitute. Its 
not perfect but it will work okay.
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SM 2.0.1 personal toolbar )bookmarks)

2009-12-19 Thread me2
How do I NOT show the bookmarks folder in my toolbar? I mean the one
SM adds that is named Bookmarks, this isn't needed any way since
Bookmarks appears in the top drop downs, and it takes up room that I
need for other folders- I don't believe 2.0 did this ?



any word/hope on form manger?
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What can we expect in restoring form manger?

2009-12-18 Thread me2
I'm not wise to the ways of SM's programmers-
is there  hope ?
if so what/when can we expect any change?

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Re: Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?

2009-12-09 Thread me2
restore form manger


On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:58:48 -0800 (PST), Arsbajt Tosov
arsb...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does one correct mistakes. In the other you could go in and correct.
 Now there appears no way to correct things.

Not only that, but the new form manager saves information that I DON'T
WANT it to save, like CREDIT CARD NUMBERS. There is no way now to
remove that information without deleting ALL stored form information.
Way to go, Mozilla!
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Re: 2.0 ?

2009-12-03 Thread me2
My sole complaint about SM 2. is the removal of form manger - my
objections come from two directions:
1) the feature was used by many of us for many years and was somewhat
unique among browsers, and 2)  the removal of a feature is not an
improvement,  and adding insult to injury, some here seem ready to
dismiss those of us who used that function- telling us to make do with
a firefox handme down.
Firefox is nice - I have a copy on one my machines, but if SM's claim
to fame is to be reduced to saying were firefox and thunderbird in
one package, what's the point?

The number of complaints here and other places about the removal of
form manger is just the tip of the iceberg- most don't complaint, they
vote with their feet and go looking for a replacement.

I've said before, but it bears repeating I am very aware of the debt I
owe the unsung heroes who have kept SM going, my rumbling here in no
way reduces that, but at the same time I feel it appropriate to remind
those here that SM IN ITS ORIGINAL concept was part of the true linage
of Netscape and that is its true claim to fame.

Restore form manager ...



isOn Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:35:27 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 2/12/2009 23:36, John Boyle told the world:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 question wrote:
 Is 2.0 a beta ?
 At this point official no.

 To the newsgroup: But from a USERS standpoint, a definite YES! :-(

 Speaking as someone who had *no* problems at all, whose migration went
 flawlessly (despite having a somewhat complex mail setup) and who now
 enjoys a lot of stuff that simply wasn't available for the old version,
 I have to disagree.

 No software *ever* hits the public in a perfect form. Bugs *will* be
 found. But calling it a beta because of it... well, by that logic,
 *all* software is beta.


 when we see so much complains  it would be better to maintain the
 beta status some time longer ...

 I strongly disagree.

 They went through, I think 3 RC's.  Versions were tested in house, then
 went to public alphas, betas, and RCs. The testing showed some major
 issues, which were corrected.  most of the problems we are seeing here
 are minor, the exceptions being the migration issues, and the form manager.

 Any product that goes through a really major revision, and, under the
 hood, this might as well be a new product, is going to have issues like
 this.

 You think you are seeing complaints now?  Wait til Thunderbird 3 reaches
 release. They are testing like crazy and fixing things,and delaying.  I
 predict there will still be storm when it hits release.

 Wait til the software is perfect, and you might as well never release
 anything.

 Lee
Actually 2 RC a notice was put up after the second one about it being 
wrong wait for the third which followed a day later.
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Release of SM 2.x- please restore form manager don't break anything else PLEASE

2009-12-01 Thread me2
I did say please...
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Re: Restore the old Form Manager!

2009-11-18 Thread me2

..new. .Form Manager seem to be hard for people to grasp..

No! its just it is not as usable as the previous, most of us have seen
it in firefox.  Many of us used SM 1.x because of the presence of form
manger.
The new one doesn't handle whole forms, requires an extension to get
minimum usability, and represents a break from a working  often used
existing part of SM.

 sigh.. bring back form manger.



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:44:26 -0500, Bill Spikowski
b...@spikowski.com wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:56:15 -0600, me2 wrote:
 
 Restore the old Form Manager!
 ...please...
 
 We discussed this in the SeaMonkey Status Meeting yesterday.
 
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2009-11-17#SeaMonkey_2.0_Final
 
 Look under the feedback section.


That's great news -- I'll bet there's an awful lot of who haven't switched to 
2.0 simply because of the loss of the truly excellent form manager in the 1.n 
series.

When colleagues ask me why I rely on software as little known as Seamonkey, I 
give several compelling reasons -- the form manager has always been #1 (and 
the support from this newsgroup is #2 -- thanks to you all!).
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Restore the old Form Manager!

2009-11-17 Thread me2
...please...
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-14 Thread me2
I appreciate your response Phil, I guess my surprise is that a feature
that's been with us this long should be declared out - I assume long
thought was given to doing that, deciding that 2.o's other
improvements outweighed waiting until form manger could be
rewritten/fixed.
It never occurred to me that a version of my favorite browser would
suddenly omit a feature, going back instead of forward.
I know that SM like  all mozillas relies on volunteers, and bless them
all for work that we all appreciate so much, and yes there is a but
coming-
I used all of SM- browser, mail,composer and sometimes chat.
I doubt anyone here really knows the customer base for the various
components, or how many now seeing form manger gone will just vote
with feet and use some other browser.

But thanks for the thought - I'll watch to see if someone kind soul
rides to the rescue-  and never again will I update a browser without
reading ALL the update notices .

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:57:38 +0800, Philip Chee
philip.c...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:05:54 -0600, me2 wrote:
 This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last
 plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame
 is to slowly being reduced to were firefox and thunderbird
 combined, what's the point?
 Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these little
 unimportant parts.
 I hope someone can rectify this situation,  but if not let me express
 my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I
 loved...
 
 I'm sure I will miss it.

Nobody in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is against a restored Form Manager.
But just as I stepped forward and volunteered to implement customizable
toolbars (I'm a ERP/Business ReEngineering consultant), or Misak stepped
forward and volunteered to implement session restore (at that time he
was just a tech working on Cisco routers, or KaiRo stepping forward to
reimplement the XPFE style download manager window (despite at that time
being solely a web designer and didn't have much experience actually
working on SeaMonkey code). So we need someone to step forward and
volunteer to reimplement a Forms History Manager.

Phil
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-13 Thread me2
This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last
plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame
is to slowly being reduced to were firefox and thunderbird
combined, what's the point?
Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these little
unimportant parts.
I hope someone can rectify this situation,  but if not let me express
my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I
loved...

I'm sure I will miss it.



On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:42:55 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:
 me2 wrote:
 BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted?

 The Firefox developers. To be fair, they made that decision for Firefox
 only. When SeaMonkey made the switch to the common back-end (Toolkit)
 this is what we got. The old form manager would have had to be
 reimplemented in the new environment but obviously that didn't happen.
 Even if someone stepped up to do the work now I don't know whether the
 old form manager behavior would be accepted for inclusion in newer
 SeaMonkey versions. Unless someone tries I guess it won't ever happen.
 But of course there's always the possibility that someone develops an
 extension that implements something similar.

 Greetings,

 Jens

Odds are the developer in charge of it at FireFox said to him self , 
people don't use this anyway do we even need it.
You could acquire the code for the Forms history extension and included 
it already built in as you do  ChatZilla, JavaScript Debugger, and DOM 
inspector. If you don't want to be bothered with actually developing one.
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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-13 Thread me2
another man's useless bloat. You need a Form Manager, and this
extension 
gives you an excellent one

wow! - I'm tempting to comment that something else is bloated here BUT
in all fairness to L Jones, whatever the feature, if you don't/didn't
use it your appreciation/value of it probably wasn't much.
And no this new (its firefox's idea of a form manger)  ISN'T an
excellent one by comparison.
Those who use parts that have been with all along foolishly expected
the community to maintain them, not decide a function or whatever
wasn't to continue. There parts of Netscape that I've never used,
probably never will, but you'll find no complaint here over the last
12 years of bloat.

Give us back forms manager -
AND let the community have a say if someone decides to kick something
else to the curb.





  On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, Leonidas Jones
leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote:

another man's useless bloat. You need a Form Manager, and this extension 
gives you an excellent one
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-11 Thread me2
So for the newt form whateverthehellitiscalled hasn't reacted/show
up when presented with a form in the browser- is there a spell to
invoke?


I've never tried to go backwards after a SM update- is there going to
be a problem with going back to 1.1.8 from 2.0?

Is there a version of mozilla that retains the form manger?

This is really a disappointment, I've used Netscape/seamonkey forever
but form manger is a required application here.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:48:56 -0600, MikeyG
contactbyp...@hatespam.net wrote:

me2 wrote:
 I downloaded and installed the extension, its better than nothing, but
 I suspect I am not in a minority in missing the original from manger.
 having to add something like Roboform seems to defeat the original
 concept- Is there any hope at all of restoring form manager?
 I will uninstall 2.O and go back to 1.18 for now.
 
 me2 wrote:
 let us hope - I didn't use firefox for this very reason.

 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:12:25 -0400, Louu...@domain.invalid  wrote:

 Dennis Gleeson wrote:
 A new form manager replaces all previous web form management, and
 automatically keeps a record of what you type into forms and 
 presents
 you these options in a drop-down list when you come back.

 I haven't downloaded the new version yet but have a question based on
 some previous reading on here.

 Is there any way in 2.0 to fill a complete form with 1 or 2 clicks(like
 with the current form manager) or are you forced to make a choice from
 drop downd in EACH form field?
 I miss the old form manager too.  Maybe we'll get in in 2.1.
 Get the Forms History extension

I have given up on SeaMonkey and begun to use FireFox and ThunderBird. I 
didn't want to stop using SeaMonkey, but the Form Manager was my main 
reason to keep using it; I really, can live with out Composer.

Now, that SeaMonkey is so much near FireFox, and there is so much more 
awareness of FireFox and ThunderBird, I decided to go this way.

Best wishes to all SEaMonkey users.

MikeyG
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-11 Thread me2
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:49:14 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

Download and install the Forms History Manager extension

I did - when a form is in my browser nothing happens- enable form and
search history is selected in history, a right click reveals form
history and there are items listed BUT so far when I'm presented a
form and/or start typing in a form, nothing happens.
Am I doing it wrong?


me2 wrote:
 So for the new form whateverthehellitiscalled hasn't reacted/show
 up when presented with a form in the browser- is there a spell to
 invoke?


 I've never tried to go backwards after a SM update- is there going to
 be a problem with going back to 1.1.8 from 2.0?

 Is there a version of mozilla that retains the form manger?

 This is really a disappointment, I've used Netscape/seamonkey forever
 but form manger is a required application here.
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-11 Thread me2
I see that but I'm NOT seeing any form filling, i.e., no offers to
fill any forms so far - is this function on automatically or do I
need to do something to invoke it?

BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted?

sigh...

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:40:51 -0500, Phillip Jones
pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:

me2 wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:49:14 -0500, Phillip Jones
 pjon...@kimbanet.com  wrote:

 Download and install the Forms History Manager extension

 I did - when a form is in my browser nothing happens- enable form and
 search history is selected in history, a right click reveals form
 history and there are items listed BUT so far when I'm presented a
 form and/or start typing in a form, nothing happens.
 Am I doing it wrong?


 me2 wrote:
 So for the new form whateverthehellitiscalled hasn't reacted/show
 up when presented with a form in the browser- is there a spell to
 invoke?


 I've never tried to go backwards after a SM update- is there going to
 be a problem with going back to 1.1.8 from 2.0?

 Is there a version of mozilla that retains the form manger?

 This is really a disappointment, I've used Netscape/seamonkey forever
 but form manger is a required application here.
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when you open forms history Manager highlight the row in which the item 
you want to change then double click a window pops up with the info. you 
can edit from there.
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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

2009-11-10 Thread me2
I downloaded and installed the extension, its better than nothing, but
I suspect I am not in a minority in missing the original from manger.
having to add something like Roboform seems to defeat the original
concept- Is there any hope at all of restoring form manager?
I will uninstall 2.O and go back to 1.18 for now.

me2 wrote:
 let us hope - I didn't use firefox for this very reason.

 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:12:25 -0400, Louu...@domain.invalid  wrote:

 Dennis Gleeson wrote:
 A new form manager replaces all previous web form management, and
 automatically keeps a record of what you type into forms and presents
 you these options in a drop-down list when you come back.

 I haven't downloaded the new version yet but have a question based on
 some previous reading on here.

 Is there any way in 2.0 to fill a complete form with 1 or 2 clicks(like
 with the current form manager) or are you forced to make a choice from
 drop downd in EACH form field?

 I miss the old form manager too.  Maybe we'll get in in 2.1.

Get the Forms History extension
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Sidebar: CNN expanded... sigh..

2009-08-21 Thread me2
One of my reasons to stay with seamonkey has been the various sidebar
items, and chief among them was CNN expanded- which no longer works.

Getting someone to tell you about such is rough in the mozilla world-
the very nature of the non centralized work often defeats an enduser
like me trying to discover if  something is no longer supported, just
not working, or you're the only one having that problem.

So last try- anyone able to tell me if sidebar and CNN are still
supported?
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are there any news sidebars now that cnn doesn't work? (is sidebar going away?)

2009-07-24 Thread me2
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Fox forecast in seamonkey 1.1.16

2009-07-09 Thread me2
I re-installed this add-on and got a message that no profile was
available, Now I can't seem to access the program (I see nothing any
where about it in my browser)- what am I missing?
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Re: Fox forecast in seamonkey 1.1.16

2009-07-09 Thread me2
Actually, I guessing its referring to the foxforecast profile - now
oddly enough now and then ifox weather does show up, but not each
time- restarting seamonkey or even cold/warm boot seemly making no
difference.

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:05:47 +0200, Martin Feitag
prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote:

me2 schrieb:
 I re-installed this add-on and got a message that no profile was
 available, Now I can't seem to access the program (I see nothing any
 where about it in my browser)- what am I missing?

Sry, but if it didn't find a profile to install to, you can't expect it 
to work afterwards.

Martin
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Re: CNN out of date in sidebar- do I need xsidebar?

2009-04-03 Thread me2
seamonkey 1.1.15 has a built-in sidebar, appearing when F9 is pressed.
I have CNN extended as one of my sidebar items.
Recently it stopped updating its content.
I am trying to determine if CNN is no longer supports seamonkey's
sidebar, or if something else is wrong.
This is occurring on two different machines so it apparently not a
local problem.
My reference to xsidebar grew out of a reference I saw online- I had
heard of it until now, and know about it.



On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:19:05 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
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me2 wrote:
 
 I use seamonkey, currently using 1.1.15.
  I have CNN extended in my sidebar but it is out of date in its
 content. I tried reload frame but it is still out of date (lead
 story person found clinging to boat..
 Is sidebar no longer supported for CNN?, or do I need to change to
 xsidebar to obtain CNN?
 
 I appreciate any help.

is this an extension or addon you got from somewhere, 
or what? Is it a news feed?  What sort of sidebar frame 
is this?
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Re: CNN out of date in sidebar- do I need xsidebar?

2009-04-03 Thread me2
Sorry, misunderstood.
if sidebar is active , and you select tabs, customize sidebar, you
go to a screen customize sidebar and if you select find more tabs
you arrive at dmoz.org/Netscape/sidebar - 
One of the listed  is CNN expanded  which I've used since sidebar
first appeared.



On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:57:39 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

me2 wrote:
 seamonkey 1.1.15 has a built-in sidebar, appearing when F9 is pressed.
 I have CNN extended as one of my sidebar items.
 Recently it stopped updating its content.
 I am trying to determine if CNN is no longer supports seamonkey's
 sidebar, or if something else is wrong.
 This is occurring on two different machines so it apparently not a
 local problem.
 My reference to xsidebar grew out of a reference I saw online- I had
 heard of it until now, and know about it.

yes, I know what a sidebar is, but what I'm trying to 
find out is where are you getting this CNN in the 
sidebar from.  Where's it coming from? An addon? What 
is the name of the top of the sidebar? This this a News 
Feed? What?
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Re: CNN out of date in sidebar- do I need xsidebar?

2009-04-03 Thread me2
Appreciate your help, I'll waste my time and try and contact CNN.
...sigh...

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:41:35 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

me2 wrote:
 Sorry, misunderstood.
 if sidebar is active , and you select tabs, customize sidebar, you
 go to a screen customize sidebar and if you select find more tabs
 you arrive at dmoz.org/Netscape/sidebar - 
 One of the listed  is CNN expanded  which I've used since sidebar
 first appeared.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:57:39 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
 peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 me2 wrote:
 seamonkey 1.1.15 has a built-in sidebar, appearing when F9 is pressed.
 I have CNN extended as one of my sidebar items.
 Recently it stopped updating its content.
 I am trying to determine if CNN is no longer supports seamonkey's
 sidebar, or if something else is wrong.
 This is occurring on two different machines so it apparently not a
 local problem.

now we're somewhere and on the same wave length.  Thank 
you.

Hmmm, interesting.  Its not updated in Firefox or 
Mozilla Suite either.  So, I would guess its a problem 
at the cnn server.

No, its not an xsidebar thing.  It has nothing to do 
with that extension.
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